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Private funding has created 100s of new child care spots in this Pennsylvania county

Private funding has created 100s of new child care spots in this Pennsylvania county

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Jack & Jill Nursery in York recently opened an infant room, and Leisa Harmis' 4-month-old son Kane was one of the first babies to enroll.
Having Kane cared for by trusted Jack & Jill staff means that Harmis and her husband have the energy for their 'second shift' of parenting their four kids after they leave work.
'We're both not coming home on empty,' she said.
Before Kane could attend Jack & Jill, the early childhood center first had to purchase cribs and toys, and install new carpet so that babies learning to crawl would be on a clean floor. Director Ruth Leonard said she was able to make these up-front investments through a $50,000 'innovation grant' from Every Child Has Opportunities, or ECHO.
With funding from foundations, a health system, and the local United Way, ECHO aims to double the number of children from low-income families in York County who are enrolled in high-quality early childhood education by 2027.
It's doing so through grants for renovations, tech, and more; a paid apprentice program for teacher aides; and forgivable loans targeted at new providers. Its budget is approximately $3.2 million per year, according to a 2024 report.
That number is small compared to what the federal and Pennsylvania governments spend to support child care. York County receives more than $45 million annually for Head Start, Pre-K Counts, and other programs.
But stakeholders say investments like ECHO's can help address the dual crises of high child care costs and a lack of providers. In its first year, the initiative said that child care providers who received support from ECHO added 854 new openings in York County.
Recent legislative efforts out of Harrisburg have addressed only part of the problem through a series of tax credits that seek to make child care tuition more affordable for families.
Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro's proposed 2025-26 budget includes $55 million for early childhood teacher retention and recruitment grants, which he says would boost wages for workers at centers that provide subsidized care for low-income kids by roughly $1,000 per year.
ECHO's funding runs out at the end of 2026, and there's no guarantee additional money is coming. Rather than seeing philanthropic dollars as a long-term solution, ECHO's supporters want policymakers to view it as a pilot that can be replicated in other parts of the state with public dollars.
'Hopefully, the federal government, the state government will recognize [ECHO] as, 'OK, this works,'' said Michael Hady, president and CEO of the Powder Mill Foundation, one of the initiative's biggest donors.
The nonprofit Community Connections for Children, which co-leads ECHO with the York County Economic Alliance, says about $300,000 of the initiative's annual budget goes toward operating expenses. In 2024, $1.9 million in grants were awarded, but ECHO didn't distribute all the funds it had budgeted. It aims to issue at least $3.5 million in 2025.
The 2024 tally includes grants to Jack & Jill and 27 other facilities. The money paid for things like replacing a wooden fence that was giving kids splinters and purchasing pre-K literacy materials.
ECHO also paid for the tuition of 19 teacher aides who earned their Child Development Associate credential through a program at Harrisburg Area Community College. And it awarded $440,000 in forgivable loans to 15 new child care providers.
The Pennsylvania Department of Human Services also offers grants targeted at bolstering the child care workforce and helping providers with startup costs. These are effective programs, but there's not enough money to serve everyone, said Jen DeBell, the executive director of the Pennsylvania Association for the Education of Young Children.
While ECHO's leaders are proud of their work, they say more child care slots are needed. The economic alliance said that even before the COVID-19 pandemic there was a shortage of child care centers, and that since 2020, more than 20% of York County's providers have closed. As a result, parents are struggling to find quality early childhood education.
Leonard sees this firsthand. While Jack & Jill just opened to infants in February, there are already seven babies on its waitlist, she said. The center could double its capacity from four babies to eight if it recruits a second teacher.
'You want to hire people who really have a heart to work with children,' Leonard said. 'And sometimes that's hard to come by if we're being honest.'
Hady told Spotlight PA that the shortage of child care providers in York County is both a social concern and an economic problem for the community.
'Businesses were trying to hire employees, but oftentimes they had issues, particularly with families who needed daycare or child care,' Hady said.
A 2024 report from the Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry found these workforce challenges extend beyond York County: 81% of employers surveyed said they had 'moderate or significant recruitment and retention issues' regarding child care.
For some Pennsylvanians, it makes more financial sense to be a stay-at-home parent, as child care fees often exceed $10,000 a year per kid. But even families that can afford these sky-high costs struggle to find quality care due to the overall lack of providers.
Part of ECHO's success stems from it seeking input from child care providers, DeBell said. She told Spotlight PA that ECHO is 'super unique' because it's a philanthropic response to systemic supply-side issues that tax credits won't solve.
For example, in addition to paying for tuition, ECHO grants provide a monthly $200 stipend to teacher aides pursuing their child development certification. Mentor teachers get stipends of $150. The grant also reimburses $10 per hour toward an aide's salary.
In addition to ECHO, a separate program called the York County Early Childhood Educator Awards distributes annual stipends. The private-public initiative is administered by Community Connections for Children, which told Spotlight PA that in 2024 it awarded over $674,000 to 404 staff at 67 programs.
Increased pay for child care workers is critical to improving overall quality, said Jessica Brown, a University of South Carolina economist who studies the child care market.
Child care is highly labor-intensive, so the percentage that employers like Jack & Jill must budget for staff salaries is greater than those of big box stores, gas stations, and other businesses that target entry-level workers. As a result, said Brown, child care centers are more limited in how much they can pay employees, putting them at a disadvantage when it comes to recruitment.
'So we end up with a market where, on average, the care is what parents can afford, but it's not as high-quality as society would maybe want,' said Brown, pointing to federal data from 2022 showing that two in three child care workers earn less than $15 an hour.
Low wages also harm retention, which can negatively affect children, noted a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. The authors found that raising wages for the lowest-paid early childhood teachers 'is the most straightforward response' to decrease turnover.
On the flip side, quality child care has downstream benefits. Research shows kids who attend child care are more likely to graduate from college and less likely to be involved with the criminal justice system.
When ECHO's funding runs out next year, Hady said Powder Mill may contribute additional money, but he's also hoping York County's business community will step in. However, he argued that the onus of fully addressing the child care crisis, and ensuring all kids have access to early childhood education, rests with lawmakers.
In the meantime, Leonard at Jack & Jill wants to hire more staff who can take advantage of the ECHO grants. She's accepting applications for a second infant room teacher and feels hopeful.
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But in Texas, as you referenced, Republicans there rolled out a new map that could actually add up to five GOP seats. You now have Governor Gavin Newsom promising that California would respond with a new map that would boost Democratic seats in that state. Let me ask you, Senator. Do you believe it's hypocritical for Democrats to deploy the same strategy that they're criticizing by Republicans in Texas? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Well, first of all, let's understand why Donald Trump is asking for five more Republican seats out of Texas. It's because his policies, especially his economic policies, have been so bad, right? The prior guest referenced the Big Beautiful Bill. Wait until people start losing their healthcare and their healthcare costs go up, right? If Republicans were confident on their policy agenda, they would be eager to defend it with the people and to defend it at the ballot box, next November. But they know they're in trouble. And so they're trying to rig the system to hold on to power next November. That's what this redistricting move is really about. KRISTEN WELKER: You know, powerful language that you're using: "Rig the system." I mean, some of your party warn that going down this path could actually erode trust in the system. Here's California State Assembly Member Alex Lee. This is what he said. He said, quote, "Trying to save democracy by destroying democracy is dangerous and foolish. By legitimizing the race to the bottom of gerrymandering, Democrats will ultimately lose." Do Democrats run the risk of destroying voters' faith in the entire system, Senator? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: I'll tell you what's destroying faith in the system. It's everything coming out of the White House right now. The ideal scenario, Kristen, is for Texas to stand down. They don't have to do this. They shouldn't do this. But if they were to go forward and deliver Trump his five additional Republican seats, that's what he's asked for, just like he asked the Georgia secretary of state for 11,000 more votes after the 2020 stakes are simply too high; the economic stakes, the state of our democracy, the health of our institutions, the checks and balances in our country. So, yes, California and others are going to look at what options we have to defend what we believe America should stand for. KRISTEN WELKER: All right. Let me talk about another recent split in your party. A lot of debate going on. Senator Cory Booker clashed with fellow Democrats over their support, just to explain to our audience, okay, this was their support for bills that would fund police departments. Senator Booker is arguing that these bills would only reward police departments in states favored by the Trump administration. I want to play one exchange that he had with Senator Klobuchar and get your reaction on the other side. SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Sure. [BEGIN TAPE] SEN. KLOBUCHAR: You can't just pick out a few bills that came out of a committee and say, "I'm going to stop those." SEN. CORY BOOKER: That is complicity with an authoritarian leader who is trashing our Constitution. It's time for Democrats to have a backbone. It's time for us to fight. It's time for us to draw lines. [END TAPE] KRISTEN WELKER: Is Senator Booker's approach, where he's basically saying he's not willing to give an inch to President Trump, is that the right approach for Democrats? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Well, I think what he's doing is using his powers and opportunity as a member of the Judiciary Committee, he and I sit side by side, and on the floor of the Senate, to call out what this administration is doing, you know, budget reconciliation, which we went through a couple months ago, rescissions more recently. On a daily basis, the Trump administration is withholding funds in so many categories from Democratic states and Democratic cities but not so in Republican jurisdictions. That is absolutely wrong, especially when it comes to an issue as important as public safety. So to withhold funds from New Jersey for public safety programs is dangerous. KRISTEN WELKER: But is his no-holds-barred approach the right one, do you think? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Look, I think the extreme way in which this administration is conducting itself calls for higher and higher profile ways of pushing back and doing right by our own constituents. KRISTEN WELKER: I want to ask you about the big news now for the Democratic Party and your state, former Vice President Kamala Harris announced she will not run for election as California's governor. The move, of course, left the door open for a potential run in 2028. Here's how she explained her decision not to launch a statewide race in an interview this week. Take a look. [BEGIN TAPE] KAMALA HARRIS: For now, I don't want to go back in the system. I think it's broken. I always believed that, as fragile as our democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that they're not as strong as they need to be. [END TAPE] KRISTEN WELKER: She says the system is broken. That is very strong language. Do you agree? Is the system broken? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: I think the system is under duress because of both the attacks of the Trump administration and the unwillingness of Republicans in Congress to stand up and do their job as a co-equal branch of government. And so what do we need to regain and strengthen the system? Democrats are doing our parts, trying to stand up and push back. But the people across the country are increasingly standing up and speaking up on so many things that are going wrong. KRISTEN WELKER: I know we've got to get through 2026 first, but let me ask you about 2028. Some Democrats are starting to privately express concerns about a possible run by the former vice president. One top operative noted to POLITICO, quote, "Downballot candidates outperformed her in 2024, and she was a drag on them." Would you encourage former Vice President Kamala Harris to run for president in 2028? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: I would encourage Vice President Harris to follow her heart. And I think right now, she says, okay, she's not running for governor, but she's going to spend time trying to help elect more Democrats across the country. And it should be not just for federal office, for state office, for local office. That's the best way to improve our position as Democrats for the 2028 cycle. Let's make sure we do well or very, very well in 2026. KRISTEN WELKER: Alright, I have to ask you about the hunger crisis in Gaza, turning to overseas. Last year, the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, charging him with war crimes for "starvation as a method of warfare," among other charges. I have to ask you, Senator, do you believe Prime Minister Netanyahu has committed war crimes? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Yeah. Well, look, the situation in Gaza is absolutely heartbreaking. And it truly is a humanitarian crisis. So Israel needs to do more. And the United States, the Trump administration, can and should do more to address that. Absolutely. KRISTEN WELKER: But do you think that he's committed a war crime? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Well, let's let the experts conduct their research investigation and reach those conclusions. Again, what's happening in Gaza is heartbreaking. We need to be doing more. But addressing the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and Israel's right to defend itself are not mutually exclusive. KRISTEN WELKER: You're saying the U.S. has to do more. More than half of your caucus this week, a record number, voted to block sales to some weapons to Israel. You did not though, Senator. Why do you think the U.S. should keep sending weapons to Israel, and does that undercut your message that the U.S. should do more? SEN. ALEX PADILLA: Well, I don't think it does. I think we should actually focus on the humanitarian piece and move, not just resolutions, but policy and investments accordingly. What the resolution spoke to is much broader than just Israel and Gaza in those negotiations because, as you know, Israel's under constant threat from Hamas still — from Hezbollah, from the Houthis, from Iran, on a more broader level. And so we need to try to do what we can to maintain the security and stability of the region and address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. KRISTEN WELKER: Senator Alex Padilla, thank you so much for being here today. We really appreciate it. When we come back, the jobs report that rattled the president and the markets. The panel is next. KRISTEN WELKER: Welcome back. The panel is here. NBC News White House White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor; Susan Glasser, staff writer for The New Yorker; Stephen Hayes, editor and CEO of The Dispatch; and Symone Sanders Townsend, former chief spokesperson for Vice President Harris and co-host of 'The Weeknight' on MSNBC. Thanks to all of you for being here.A lot of news to talk about this week. Yamiche, let me start with you and President Trump's decision to fire the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. You heard my conversation with Kevin Hassett. It's obviously going to continue to get backlash heading into this week. What are your sources telling you inside the White House about what was behind this? YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Based on my reporting and a lot of conversations with White House officials, this had been brewing for a while. The president had been attacking the Bureau of Labor Statistics even back when he was a candidate in 2024. But White House officials told me that he was liking the job report numbers so he essentially held off on firing the commissioner because he was okay with the data coming out. Then on Friday, when he saw the July numbers and then saw the revisions to May and June, he decided to pull the trigger. And even though Kevin Hassett said these revisions are evidence, there really isn't any hard evidence that this commissioner was cooking the books. And also, William Beach, who held that job before and was appointed by Donald Trump, called her firing "dangerous." So the big question now is who ends up in that job? The president was asked specifically, "Are you going to get somebody with experience in statistics and in data?" And he said, "I want someone who's honest', and I also want someone,essentially, who I like and who's going to be supportive of my goals. So, it's going to be very, very telling who he puts in that job because, if you can't trust those numbers and if the president installs someone that doesn't have the confidence of the 40-odd-plus people, as you said, who put this together, it's going to be a real problem not just for his administration but for America on a whole. KRISTEN WELKER: Talk about the implications of this. Why is it significant and why does it run the risk of eroding public trust? SUSAN GLASSER: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is, you know, for many people who've lived and worked in other authoritarian countries, this seems like a move right out of the authoritarian playbook. You know, it's the move of a person, an individual, or a system that doesn't like what it hears and chooses not to address the problem but simply to fire the messenger. And I was really struck by your interview with Kevin Hassett. Not only could he not provide any evidence but he went out of his way essentially to say, "The facts are whatever we think they are. And if we don't like it, you know, the president has the right to act arbitrarily." That, again, is something-- in the past, Donald Trump has insisted on his own facts. But in Trump 2.0, he's moving to create a world where he can fire people on the basis or what he himself admitted the other day was, quote, "My opinion." And I just think that is a transition and an escalation in Donald Trump's tactics that we should take very seriously. KRISTEN WELKER: Symone, pick up on that point. And you are hearing with very fiery language from Democrats. Leader Chuck Schumer saying, quote, "This is classic Donald Trump, shooting the messenger." What recourse do Democrats have in this moment? SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: Well, look, I do think you had Senator Padilla here. Democrats are in the minority, I would note. But in the Senate they do have a little more leeway to hold things up, to go to the floor, to make a speech, to find, some, one or two other senators that want to join with them. And I do think an investigation here is warranted. We do have examples across the world, the globe, of other countries, Venezuela, Argentina, the Soviet Union, okay, the former Soviet Union, of what happens when data is manipulated or changed or maybe just underreported because you want to keep some people happy, like the person at the top, in this case, the president. And in every single one of those instances, the economy has been destabilized. The currency is affected. Business is affected. So there are long-term implications for what looks like a short-term gain. KRISTEN WELKER: And. Yeah– STEPHEN HAYES: –This just really is banana republic stuff. I mean, really. It's like breaking the thermometer because you don't like that it's hot outside. It's not the way that civilized nations behave. And one would hope that Republicans who disagree with this, and behind the scenes are criticizing the president for this, would find their voice at a moment like this. You know, you talk to Republicans who aren't fully on board with the Trump train. And they will say privately they'll criticize him all along and they'll say, "Well, I've got to pick and choose when I'm criticizing him. I don't want to criticize him for everything." Well, now would be the time to find your voice. You know, this was an impetuous decision from the president, sort of a tantrum. We've seen this kind of thing from him before. Remember when there was a black sharpie drawn to show the direction of a hurricane. You remember during Covid he said he wanted to stop testing because he didn't want the results of the tests. The MS-13 photoshop. He just tries to bend reality to meet his perceptions in a way that I think is just fundamentally dishonest. KRISTEN WELKER: It's fascinating to hear some of the backlash from Republicans themselves. In terms of what's dividing Democrats right now, Yamiche, you have to think about Gaza. You heard me have that discussion with Senator Padilla. And this debate over whether funds should continue to flow to Israel. President Trump, actually expressing some frustration privately, amid questions about whether the images coming out of Gaza are real. He's been told, "Yes, they're real." And he's been very firm with the prime minister, apparently. He wants something done about it. YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Yes. And my sources at the White House tell me that the president was very moved by the images of these children and families starving in Gaza, and who really couldn't be? You see these images and they're heartbreaking, right? That said, this break between the president and the prime minister, Netanyahu, it might be in some ways over this one issue. But they are still very much allied in the mission of it. And let's remember that President Trump has essentially called for the clearing out of Gaza and said that he wants to turn it into essentially a real estate resort. So there's also that going on. But, the president has been clear. He wants to get people fed. He had an interview with NBC News this week saying he wants to get people fed in Gaza. But, we think about the long-term goal and how he talked about Gaza, and that's not lost on folks. And then, yeah, you have one the Democratic side Senator Bernie Sanders getting as many Democrats as he's ever had before backing this idea of stopping giving weapons to Israel. But that doesn't mean– Senator Padilla said, "Well, I still voted against that." And he's getting by that. So that's also where a majority of Democrats are. KRISTEN WELKER: It's a great point. Susan, you wrote about it this week and that there is mounting pressure on both sides to do something. SUSAN GLASSER: No, that's exactly right. But let's be clear here that Donald Trump, you know, what he's expressing is not so much a foreign policy shift as it is a series of social media postings. And Trump's own policy bears a lot of responsibility for what's happening right now in Gaza. Remember that there was a ceasefire. Donald Trump hailed the ceasefire in January as epic, essentially a world historical event. When it collapsed in March, that was because Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, almost unilaterally pulled out from that ceasefire. You did not hear Donald Trump talking about the subsequent blockade of aid. You did not hear Donald Trump changing American policy to address the very obvious consequence of a near blockade of aid which is going to mean starvation. So, these pictures that he's seeing, he is, in part, the author of them. And I have not heard this week – he sent his envoy Steve Witkoff on a trip to Israel, including a visit to Gaza. I have not heard a major shift in what the U.S. is actually going to do. This is Donald Trump doing what he does which is watching the television and acting in a sort of media feedback loop with it. YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Can I just also say that our reporting on the ground from NBC is that, that was sort of a publicity stunt in some people's eyes, including medical professionals. And that Steve Witkoff really wasn't seeing the reality on the ground in Gaza. Of course he's saying something different, but I just want to point out what our reporting is showing. SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: I mean, they announced the trip prior to going. And when you go to a zone, such as, given what's happening on the ground in Gaza, you do not announce a trip like that prior to for security reasons, to ensure that you can see what you need to see and then report out when you leave. The proactive note I think is something to take. KRISTEN WELKER: Quick thought, Steve, before we break -- STEPHEN HAYES: Yes. I mean, look, we should level set here. Hamas is responsible for the deaths and the starvation. They were responsible for starting the war. I think the risk for Israel at this point is the loss of moral authority. Israel has had moral authority since October 7th. They risk losing it now because there clearly is starvation on the ground. KRISTEN WELKER: And that increasingly, I think, becomes the debate and where that goes. Thank you all. Pause for a moment. When we come back, the mystery of Jimmy Hoffa continues 50 years after he vanished. Our Meet the Press minute is next. KRISTEN WELKER: Welcome back. Fifty years ago this week, labor leader Jimmy Hoffa vanished. An unsolved mystery that still looms large, fueled by his alleged ties to the mafia. In 1961, Hoff had just been reelected to lead the powerful Teamsters Union despite mounting allegations of corruption that would later land him behind bars. He joined Meet the Press at the time to address those claims. [BEGIN TAPE] LAWRENCE SPIVAK: Mr. Hoffa, you have been investigated, as you yourself have said, more than almost any man in this country. Wouldn't it help you if you kept records? Wouldn't it help you if you paid by check instead of by cash and having no records at all of what you did? Doesn't that open you to suspicion? JIMMY HOFFA: There is an old story Mr. Spivak that figures don't lie but liars figure. I go on the premise that I have been investigated by the entire United States Senate, by almost every precinct agency in this country. And I question whether or not any one of the four of you sitting there can go through the same investigation Hoffa did and come out with the record Hoffa can proudly say is his after three and a half years, that they have found nothing wrong with Hoffa's finances. [END TAPE] KRISTEN WELKER: When we come back, former Vice President Kamala Harris calls the system "broken" and issues a dire warning for the country. More with the panel next. [BEGIN TAPE] STEPHEN COLBERT: Who's leading the Democratic Party? I'm just curious. FORMER VICE PRES. KAMALA HARRIS: There are lots of leaders. I think it is a mistake for us who want to figure out how to get out and through this and get out of it to put it on the shoulders of any one person. It's really on all of our shoulders. It really is. [END TAPE] KRISTEN WELKER: That was former Vice President Kamala Harris on 'The Late Show' this week, her first interview since losing the 2024 presidential election. The panel is back with us. Symone, of course I have to start with you. You used to work with the former vice president. Look, I've been talking to Democrats. They're divided over where they think she should run for president. She obviously left the door open to that. Some people say, yes, she should run. Other people say she can't run after losing 2024, that that was the end of her political career. What are you hearing? What do you – SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: Look, what I'm hearing, I'm hearing the same things you're hearing. But I will say this: I think that the vice president is someone that understands the landscape. And I think the statement that she put out today and her interview on Colbert was actually very illuminating. For me, I was struck by the fact that she says she wants to – she doesn't want to go back in the system right now. She's – she's not confident in the system. And some could read that as she's not confident in her prospects, but I read that as she is not confident in what is currently happening. Should she, will she be the Democratic nominee in 2028? We have no idea. You know, at this time, in 2007, no one knew it was Barack Obama, right? This time, in 2019, they definitely were saying it wasn't Joe Biden, and we know how that went. So I just think people need to hold their horses. But she absolutely has the right to be out here. She got 75 million votes. She lost by 1.5%. I think the woman has earned her right to speak up and do what she wants. KRISTEN WELKER: Susan, what are you hearing, and the reaction to this comment that the system is broken? SUSAN GLASSER: Yes. I think that was the most notable thing, right? I mean, how striking that, you know, this person who has benefited from the system, who has been the first woman vice president of the United States, just a few months after losing this historic presidential election she says, "Actually, the system is broken." But, you know, we talked about Cory Booker earlier in this show, and I'm really struck by the fact that, you know, many Democrats, millions of Democrats want their leaders to fight. They want them to be in the fight. So it's very hard to say, "I might want the mantle of authority in 2028, but right now I'm going to opt out of the fight." And so that's one challenge. The other issue though is are we looking forward or are we looking back? And American politics generally is looking forward. Now, I will say this: It'll be interesting, the conversation ignited by the former vice president's memoir. But many Democrats I speak with, they are still almost incandescent with rage, many of them, not at Kamala Harris but with her former boss, the former president, Joe Biden. And to the extent that that's the conversation Democrats are having rather than a conversation about how to counter Donald Trump, I don't know, you know, whether that benefits, putting aside their political interests, the country's interests right now. KRISTEN WELKER: Well, Steve, therein lies the problem, I think, for a number of Democratic – STEPHEN HAYES: Yes. KRISTEN WELKER: – candidates, this question about how to respond to the extraordinary arc of former President Biden. His decision to drop out of the race, that debate. That certainly would loom large over a Harris candidacy, should she run, over a Pete Buttigieg – STEPHEN HAYES: For sure. KRISTEN WELKER: – candidacy, should he run. STEPHEN HAYES: Yes. Look, I think we can't overstate the importance, I think, to the general electorate of what that meant. That, not only have Democrats lost twice to Donald Trump in national elections, but the last time they did it they did it in part because the party apparatus covered up the decline of the existing – of the sitting president. And then Kamala Harris had 107 days to try to run. She wasn't a very good candidate, I don't think. And I think that that moment on Colbert was – sort of captures the Democratic Party at this moment where the most recent Democratic leader couldn't name or refused to name Democratic leaders when asked about it. And if you look at what she was doing, she announces that she's, rather than going to try to fix the system, she's going to sit back. She's not going to try to fix the system. I mean, if you're looking for a leader – SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: No, I – STEPHEN HAYES: – that's not it. SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: – Kamala Harris has spent her entire life within the system. And, frankly, I think she mirrors a lot of women elected officials, a lot of Black women in the Democratic Party apparatus that say, "I have been in this. I have been fighting. And I am a little tired, and I'm – I'm a little dismayed by what I'm seeing. So let me –" STEPHEN HAYES: But is that leadership, though? SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: "-- try in a different way." STEPHEN HAYES: Is that leadership? SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: I mean – STEPHEN HAYES: How is she leading? SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: I think – I think Kamala Harris is going to go out there and campaign for folks. I think she's going to raise money for people. And I think she's going to help get some people elected in – KRISTEN WELKER: Yamiche, you covered her campaign. SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: – midterm elections. YAMICHE ALCINDOR: I did. KRISTEN WELKER: What are you watching for? YAMICHE ALCINDOR: So I'm watching for a couple things. One, Our reporting is that she still wants to keep the door open on looking at 2028. I'm also looking at who she ends up campaigning for and how that goes. Who wants her out there on the campaign trail? I think the other thing, when you hear talk about the system being broken, I think Symone is right about the idea of a lot of Black women feeling like the system is broken. Senator Padilla said it's "under duress." He wouldn't say "broken." But, to me, the language is very much mirroring the fact that they see all this power that President Trump has amassed and they're very shaken by it. And they're not, also, really understanding how, not only did they lose, yes, it was a close election, but they lost every battleground state. And that's something that I think Democrats are still trying to wrap their heads around. KRISTEN WELKER: Susan, this comes against the backdrop of this debate that we saw in the Senate between Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar. You referenced it. But this idea about how to fight back against Donald Trump. SUSAN GLASSER: Yes. I mean, what's extraordinary is that you see Donald Trump's shock-and-awe campaign unleashed on the federal government and – and, you know, segments of the American people over the last six months. And you have Democrats still having a circular fight about this. And I just – I have to say too, Symone, like, I get the idea that she's, you know, going to do what she's going to do. But to define that as leadership, you know, right now? And I – I get the idea that, you know, there are many Americans who are suffering right now as a result of, you know, what they perceive to be the Trump administration's policies. But saying, "Well, I'm – I'm going to wash my hands of the fight because the system is broken," I find that hard to believe, just as a matter of politics, that that's going to be a winning message for Democrats next year in – SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: I just – I didn't hear – SUSAN GLASSER: – a midterm election. SYMONE SANDERS TOWNSEND: – the "washing hands of the fight." I think I've heard a lot of people interpret what she said that way, and I didn't hear it that way. I think that power has never come from – real power and the grassroots and the energy has actually never come from the elected leaders, and especially not here in Washington, DC. Even in the resistance movement, if you will, post-2016, those were people in the streets. And so I hear Kamala Harris saying, "I'm about to go over here and get out here with the resistance because what I'm seeing in Washington is not working." STEPHEN HAYES: I think if – if Democrats – KRISTEN WELKER: Steve, the final 30 seconds. STEPHEN HAYES: – look at Donald Trump and his ascent to the pinnacle of American politics, he did it with one thing: He fought. He fought everybody at all times. He blew up what the Republican Party had thought of it – thought of itself, ideologically and philosophically. And I think you're seeing Democrats, Cory Booker being the most notable, trying to imitate that, trying to make that same case. KRISTEN WELKER: All right, guys, thank you so much. Great conversation. That is all for today. Thank you for watching. We'll be back next week because, if it's Sunday, it's Meet the Press.

It's Trump's economy now
It's Trump's economy now

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It's Trump's economy now

Presented by With help from Eli Okun, Bethany Irvine and Ali Bianco Good Sunday morning. It's Zack Stanton. Get in touch. THE CONVERSATION: Within days of her election in November, Rep. Sarah McBride (D-Del.), faced backlash from some House Republicans for being transgender. In the face of those attacks, McBride has sought ways to forge ties across the aisle, animated partly by her hope of bringing 'a sense of kindness and grace' to Congress despite the 'reality TV show nature' of today's politics, she tells Playbook's Dasha Burns on today's episode of 'The Conversation.' Listen in: The two also discuss the ongoing humanitarian crisis in Gaza, how the Democratic Party can rebuild its coalition without 'reinforcing right-wing framing' over 'culture war' issues and why her pursuit of bipartisan legislation is in part a direct response to President Donald Trump. Watch the full episode … Subscribe to 'The Conversation' on YouTube, Apple Podcasts or Spotify DRIVING THE DAY WELCOME TO THE VIBE SHIFT: For months, Trump has boasted that under his leadership, America is the 'hottest' country in the world. (He repeated that claim overnight in a social media post at 1:49 a.m.) Now, he's at risk of being burned by those expectations. On Wednesday, new GDP numbers showed that in the first half of the year, the economy grew at an annual rate of less than 1.3 percent. On Thursday, new inflation numbers showed that the personal consumption expenditures price index jumped by 2.6 percent in the year ending in June — an acceleration of the inflation rate from April. On Friday, the new jobs report showed that net hiring has 'plummeted over the past three months with job gains of just 73,000 in July, 14,000 in June and 19,000 in May,' in the words of the AP. And behind those topline numbers was a striking datapoint, the WSJ's Te-Ping Chen and Harriet Torry note: 'The number of people unemployed for at least 27 weeks topped 1.8 million, the highest level since 2017, not counting the pandemic's unemployment surge.' This morning, it's clear that a new consensus is emerging: For all the talk of a new 'Golden Age,' there are abundant signs that the economy, while at times glittering, may not be gold. Simply put: 'Job gains are dwindling. Inflation is ticking upward. Growth has slowed compared with last year,' AP's Josh Boak and Christopher Rugaber write. '[T]his is not the boom the Republican president promised, and his ability to blame his Democratic predecessor, Joe Biden, for any economic challenges has faded as the world economy hangs on his every word and social media post.' Indeed, nearly 200 days into his second term, even members of Trump's administration are signaling that the window during which Biden could be blamed has now passed. The 'Trump economy has arrived,' Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said on Wednesday. 'Biden's first quarter is behind us, and growth is already accelerating.' Trump has made himself central to the economy. 'After campaigning on a pledge to free business from worrying about Washington's dictates, Trump has made public policy — and his own norm-busting behavior — the primary variables affecting the $30 trillion U.S. economy, economists said,' WaPo's David Lynch and Abha Bhattarai report. Washington, they write, is now 'the focus of business and investment decision-making.' That's unlikely to change anytime soon. Among the reasons why, two loom large: the coming economic impact of Trump's tariffs, and new concerns about the reliability of government economic statistics going forward. ON THE TARIFFS: 'Companies are starting to shift more tariff-related costs onto consumers,' NYT's Sydney Ember reports in an A1 story this morning. 'Many businesses chose to absorb the additional tax during the early days of President Trump's trade war. But evidence is emerging that they are running out of options to keep prices stable in the face of deteriorating profit margins, suggesting that the tariffs could have a more pronounced effect on prices in the months ahead.' Yes, the inflationary effects of Trump's tariffs have been muted thus far. But economists 'cite several reasons for that limited impact,' Ember writes. 'Companies across the country raced to stockpile goods before any tariffs kicked in, giving them a significant cushion before they had to import goods subject to higher levies. Many businesses, big and small, were reluctant to pass along higher costs to their inflation-weary customers without more clarity on where the tariffs would settle.' A new economic divide: Now that the policy is settling into place, a 'divide is widening in the US economy as the biggest banks and technology groups shrug off Donald Trump's tariffs to post huge earnings gains while consumer-facing companies struggle with rising costs,' FT's George Steer writes this morning. Stat of the day: In total, 52 percent of the S&P 500 companies that have posted Q2 results reported declining profit margins, FT reports, citing Société Générale, a financial services company based in France. Companies reported margin pressure even as their sales rose, which suggests 'that their costs are going up but that companies aren't yet passing this on' to consumers, Andrew Lapthorne, the firm's head of quantitative research, told the FT. ON THE DATA: On Friday, Trump ordered his team to fire Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, after the jobs report showed weaker numbers than expected for July and downgraded the May and June figures. That's igniting 'worries that Trump's volatile temperament could cause additional economic harm by undermining market confidence in the government data that investors, business executives and policymakers require to make decisions,' WaPo's Lynch and Bhattarai write. 'If policymakers and the public can't trust the data — or suspect the data are being manipulated — confidence collapses and reasonable economic decision-making becomes impossible,' Heidi Shierholz, the president of the center-left Economic Policy Institute and former chief economist of the Labor Department, told the Post. 'It's like trying to drive a car blindfolded.' SUNDAY BEST … — U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer on the new tariffs and future trade deals, on CBS' 'Face the Nation': 'These tariff rates are pretty much set. I expect I do have my phone blowing up. There are trade ministers who want to talk more and see how they can work in a different way with the United States, but I think that we have, we're seeing truly the contours of the president's tariff plan right now with these rates.' — National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett on the jobs numbers on 'Fox News Sunday': 'When the data are unreliable, when they keep being revised all over the place, then there are going to be people that wonder if there's a partisan pattern in the data. … And so, I think what we need is a fresh set of eyes at the [Bureau of Labor Statistics], somebody who can clean this thing up.' — Sen. Alex Padilla (D-Calif.) on the firing of the head of the BLS, on NBC's 'Meet the Press': 'That's what confirmation hearings are supposed to be about, is it going to be somebody that will maintain the independence of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, like so many other departments and agencies that need to have the independence from political pressure of the White House to do their job reliably? Or will this be another yes person for the president that's going to be more interested in propaganda than statistics, more interested in propaganda than the facts?' — Doctors Without Borders USA CEO Avril Benoît on the starvation in Gaza on ABC's 'This Week': 'We need to flood the zone with as much food as possible. The problem with the [Gaza Humanitarian Foundation] is, of course, it's unsafe. It's an inefficient way to deliver aid. People have to cross very unsafe zones to reach those areas that are controlled by the IDF and military contractors from the U.S., and then there are insufficient quantities.' TOP-EDS: A roundup of the week's must-read opinion pieces. 9 THINGS FOR YOUR RADAR 1. RECESS BEGINS: Senators left Washington yesterday to begin their long-awaited August recess. Republicans left without locking in a deal to confirm dozens of nominations that Trump has put forward, but Senate Majority Leader John Thune has vowed to return in the fall to clear the deck after Trump privately told Republicans to go home and cut negotiations with Democrats, POLITICO's Jordain Carney reports. The U-turn: Thune and Minority Leader Chuck Schumer had a path forward on the floor (which hadn't been formalized) that would have exchanged a tranche of confirmations for the release of withheld NIH and foreign aid funding, Jordain writes. That came after Republicans seemed adamant on Saturday about getting the nominations resolved this weekend, whether by cutting a deal, changing the confirmation rules or by adjourning to allow recess appointments. The Trump of it all: 'The president is fed up,' Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) said. Trump manned the phones yesterday for conversations with some key GOP senators, and late last night he blasted Schumer for 'political extortion' on Truth Social and urged all Republicans to head out. Thune teed up seven final nominees for confirmation votes last night before moving on to recess. Among the newly confirmed: Jeanine Pirro, the former Fox News host, now formally the U.S. attorney for D.C. following a 50-45 vote. What Thune is thinking: He's already preparing for the possibility of speeding up the process with a rules change come September. 'I think they're desperately in need of change,' Thune said, per AP's Mary Clare Jalonick and Joey Cappelletti. 'I think that the last six months have demonstrated that this process, nominations is broken. And so I expect there will be some good robust conversations about that.' What Schumer is thinking: He defended the Democrats' response, saying 'historically bad nominees deserve historic levels of scrutiny.' Still in limbo: The nominations of Mike Waltz as UN ambassador and Kimberly Guilfoyle for U.S. ambassador to Greece, CBS' Cristina Corujo notes. It's still unclear if the Senate will take up nominations as soon as they come back on Sept. 2, or if they'll wait until after the shutdown deadline. 2. PROMISES BROKEN?: 'White House has no plan to mandate IVF care, despite campaign pledge,' by WaPo's Riley Beggin and Jeff Stein: 'The White House does not plan to require health insurers to provide coverage for in vitro fertilization services, two people with knowledge of internal discussions said … In addition, White House officials are backing away from proposals discussed internally to mandate IVF coverage for the roughly 50 million people on the Obamacare exchanges … It is unclear whether the administration plans to ask lawmakers to take up a bill, but the two people said that forcing insurance companies to cover IVF is not currently on the table.' 3. TRADING PLACES: India will continue purchasing Russian oil even as Trump threatens penalties, Reuters' Shivam Patel and Chandni Shah report. Trump said Friday that he was told India would stop the trade with Russia. But sources in India's government said no policy changes have been made. It's the latest instance of an increasingly sour relationship between the U.S. and India, one tied not just to trade, but also Trump's claimed credit over the end of India's brief conflict with Pakistan, WSJ's Alex Ward and colleagues write. On the tariffs: As the final deals in Trump's trade war emerge, Myanmar is still optimistic it can come to an agreement with the U.S. that would decrease its new 40 percent tariff levels, per Bloomberg's Khine Lin Kyaw. But in Switzerland, investors are bracing themselves for the market's reopening tomorrow after Trump's 39 percent tariff announcement came during Swiss National Day, Bloomberg's Gary Parkinson and colleagues report. Elsewhere on the economy: Though Washington has increasingly come down on electric vehicles, they're not going anywhere, writes NYT's Jack Ewing, as the cars become cheaper and tariff resilient. … Fed officials say the U.S. labor market is still solid despite the July jobs report, WSJ's Nick Timiraos scooped. … As Fed Governor Adriana Kugler announced her resignation on Friday, Trump now has an opportunity to install someone at the Fed to push for interest rate cuts, Bloomberg's Christopher Condon and Amara Omeokwe report. 4. THE CRISIS IN GAZA: Special envoy Steve Witkoff told the families of Israeli hostages yesterday that the U.S. has a plan to bring home all of the remaining hostages in a deal with Hamas that could soon end the war, WaPo's Gerry Shih reports from Jerusalem. Trump 'now believes that everybody should come home at once, no piecemeal deals. That doesn't work and we've tried everything,' Witkoff said. He added that Hamas was ready to disarm itself, which the group denied. Not a moment too soon: The starvation and struggle over aid continues to ravage the Gaza strip. Hundreds of thousands of people are overrunning aid convoys out of desperation for access to food, WaPo reports. Though the Trump administration claims it has given over $60 million in aid to Gaza, the State Department has only pledged half that amount and only a fraction has been issued in Gaza so far, per WaPo's Karen DeYoung. More on the starvation in Gaza from the NYT Back in Washington: Pro-Israel Democrats are increasingly publicly breaking with PM Benjamin Netanyahu and circulating a letter in the House to potentially recognize a Palestinian state, CNN's Isaac Dovere reports. Related read: 'Mike Huckabee, Israel's Passionate Defender as Gaza War Drives Allies Away,' by NYT's Elisabeth Bumiller 5. IMMIGRATION FILES: DOJ is walking back Stephen Miller's touted goal of 3,000 ICE arrests per day, as the Trump administration told federal judges last week that this quota doesn't exist, POLITICO's Kyle Cheney and Josh Gerstein write. That figure has emerged in multiple lawsuits over the administration's deportation drive, and its denial is the 'latest example of a gulf between what White House advisers say in public and what the Justice Department says in court.' It also comes as an appeals court on Friday upheld the block on the seemingly indiscriminate immigration raids in Los Angeles. Dade County, all day: Billionaire Michael Fernández is behind the new ads in Miami blasting its representatives in Congress over the mass deportations of immigrants, telling NYT's Patricia Mazzei that he hopes to 'wake up the conscience' of Miami's Cuban GOP voters. … But Latino representatives in Congress, including Miami's own Cuban Republicans, are already concerned Trump's deportations could backfire with Latino voters, WaPo's Marianna Sotomayor writes. Deep in the heart: 'Trump's Border Wall Is Back—and So Is His Fight With Texas Landowners,' by WSJ's Elizabeth Findell 6. FROM THE WILDERNESS: New campaign finance filings reveal some Democrats are already revving themselves up for 2028, with former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg raising $1.6 million with his PAC and some Democratic governors raising hundreds of thousands as well, POLITICO's Jessica Piper and Elena Schneider report. … Kamala Harris told Stephen Colbert she doesn't 'want to go back in the system' right now, and some Democrats are hoping she doesn't in 2028 either, POLITICO's Dustin Gardiner and colleagues write. … Democrats are increasingly turning to veterans across the country, NYT's Shane Goldmacher reports, as the party tries to shift away from its currently unpopular branding. Survey says: Democratic voters see their party as 'weak' or 'ineffective,' with one-third describing the party negatively in a new AP-NORC poll, per AP's Steve Peoples and colleagues. 7. A HOMECOMING FOR WILES: White House chief of staff Susie Wiles returned to her home state of Florida on Saturday night to receive the 'Statesman Award' from the Republican Party of Florida, Kimberly Leonard writes in to Playbook. Speaking before the Red Florida Dinner at the Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Wiles called her job 'a dream beyond anything I could ever have imagined,' adding: 'The golden age of America is here, because Donald Trump is in the White House.' The evening was a testament to how Wiles helped transform Florida from a purple to a red state in just a few election cycles — first with Rick Scott's 2010 campaign for governor, then for Gov. Ron DeSantis' first gubernatorial campaign in 2018. She also led Trump's Florida operation in 2016 and 2020 and ultimately led his 2024 comeback to the White House. Now, many Floridians she has worked with over the years are in the administration. 'Honestly, Floridians overpopulate the West Wing in a really big way,' Wiles said to applause. Wiles' band of loyalists heaped praise on her throughout the evening. Top Trump pollster Tony Fabrizio called the award 'long overdue.' Chris LaCivita praised Wiles as 'inarguably' the best in the field. Deputy chief of staff James Blair said Wiles 'deserves all the credit she gets and then some.' VP JD Vance delivered a surprise video greeting, crediting Wiles with keeping the White House 'on track and on schedule' while also being a 'ruthless political operator.' And Trump capped off the love fest in his own video message, saying he was unsure whether to call her a 'statesman' or 'stateswoman,' but concluding: 'You are the person of the year in my book.' 8. DEMOCRACY WATCH: DOJ is expanding its efforts to get access to voter data and election information, sending letters and emails and phone calls to get copies of voter registration lists in at least 15 states, AP's Ali Swenson and Gary Fields report. That includes 'all records' from the 2024 election and any records retained from 2020, and it's raising red flags with some state officials. In one instance in Colorado, consultant Jeff Small asked Republican officials if they would give a third party access to election information, and that he was acting on a request from Stephen Miller, per CNN's Fredreka Schouten. 9. RETRIBUTION CORNER: 'Agency Scrutinizes Jack Smith After Republican Complaint,' by NYT's Devlin Barrett: 'An agency that scrutinizes the conduct of federal employees has opened an investigation into Jack Smith, the former special counsel who investigated Donald J. Trump before he returned to office … The Office of Special Counsel confirmed on Saturday that it had opened an investigation into Mr. Smith for a possible violation of the Hatch Act, a law that prohibits federal workers from using their government jobs to engage in political activity. … Senator Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, had asked the agency to investigate.' TALK OF THE TOWN PLAYBOOK METRO SECTION — 'Smithsonian to restore Trump to impeachment exhibit 'in the coming weeks,'' by WaPo's Jonathan Fischer and Samantha Chery: 'The Smithsonian said on Saturday that it would restore information about President Donald Trump's two impeachments to an exhibit in the National Museum of American History within weeks.' SOUNDS LIKE VEEP — After Alan Dershowitz got into it with a farmer's market vendor on Martha's Vineyard who refused to sell him a pierogi, Crooked Media's Matt Berg published the corresponding police report. The highlight: 'Dershowitz stated he was going to spread the word to others at the market to not buy from the pierogi booth,' the report reads. At a nearby lemonade stand, a cop warned him not to. It concludes: 'Shortly after, the lawyer departed, pierogiless.' FIRST IN PLAYBOOK — K STREET FILES: AECOM, the giant infrastructure firm the White House picked to lead the engineering team for the construction of the $200 million White House ballroom being built with private money, is registered with Ballard Partners, the powerhouse lobbying firm with ties to chief of staff Susie Wiles, POLITICO's Daniel Lippman writes in. AECOM has paid Ballard Partners $120,000 to lobby the White House and Congress this year, according to lobbying records. The firm run by Brian Ballard, a top Trump fundraiser, registered for AECOM a week after the election. The initial listing said it was lobbying Congress and the State Department, but in the second quarter it added the White House. Wiles told Playbook in an email that she has never represented AECOM, adding she didn't 'know how they were selected, but I was never lobbied about any of the contractors or involved in any way.' Ballard declined to comment. Spokespeople for AECOM didn't respond to a request for comment. AECOM has received numerous federal contracts since the start of the Trump administration, including an Air Force contract worth up to $1.5 billion and at least two major contracts from the Army Corps of Engineers. A White House official pointed Playbook to data showing AECOM has also been a major contractor for the government during Democratic administrations and that two-thirds of AECOM's contributions in the 2024 cycle went to Democrats. Wiles worked for Ballard from 2011 to 2019, helping open up its D.C. office. Stories about the firm often include the fact that he used to employ Wiles. AG Pam Bondi also is an alum of the firm. Ballard Partners has risen to the top of the K Street ranks in the months since Trump's reelection. Speaking of the ballroom: 'Experts Raise Concerns Over Trump's White House Ballroom Renovation Plans,' by NYT's Ashley Ahn HAPPY BIRTHDAY: Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) … Reps. Gabe Vasquez (D-N.M.) and Ryan Mackenzie (R-Pa.) … Bernadette Meehan (5-0) … KFF Health News' Rachana Pradhan … Matthew Foldi … ABC's Ben Siegel and John Parkinson … Scott Parkinson … Claire Olszewski of the Obama Foundation … Jeff Dressler of SoftBank … Tom Freedman … Matt Compton … former Sen. Roland Burris (D-Ill.) … Jordan Burke … Erikka Knuti … Katherine Robertson of Alabama AG Steve Marshall's office … Graham MacGillivray … Jessica Ennis Kitelyn … Brian Morgenstern … City Journal's Brian Anderson … Dow Jones' Clarissa Matthews … Joe Ramallo of Sen. Bill Cassidy's (R-La.) office … Jay Caruso … Rachael Shackelford Dussuau … Reuters' Brad Brooks … Ken Nahigian … DNC's Emma Bailey … James Wegmann of Stand Together … Jacob Weisberg of Pushkin Industries … Andrew Craft … POLITICO's Jasmine Turner and Bemi Ukuedojor … Dmitri Mehlhorn … Sydney Hilbush of Rep. John Garamendi's (D-Calif.) office Did someone forward this email to you? Sign up here. Send Playbookers tips to playbook@ or text us on Signal here. Playbook couldn't happen without our editor Zack Stanton, deputy Garrett Ross and Playbook Podcast producer Callan Tansill-Suddath.

It's Trump's economy now. The latest financial numbers offer some warning signs
It's Trump's economy now. The latest financial numbers offer some warning signs

Los Angeles Times

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  • Los Angeles Times

It's Trump's economy now. The latest financial numbers offer some warning signs

WASHINGTON — For all of President Trump's promises of an economic 'golden age,' a spate of weak indicators last week told a potentially worrisome story as the effects of his policies are coming into focus. Job gains are dwindling. Inflation is ticking upward. Growth has slowed compared with last year. More than six months into his term, Trump's blitz of tariff hikes and his new tax-and-spending bill have remodeled America's trading, manufacturing, energy and tax systems to his liking. He's eager to take credit for any perceived wins and is hunting for someone else to blame if the financial situation starts to totter. But as of now, this is not the boom the Republican president promised, and his ability to blame his Democratic predecessor, Joe Biden, for any economic challenges has faded as the world economy hangs on his every word and social media post. When Friday's monthly jobs report turned out to be decidedly bleak, Trump ignored the warnings in the data and fired the head of the agency that produces the report. 'Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can't be manipulated for political purposes,' Trump said on his social media platform, without offering evidence for his claim. 'The Economy is BOOMING.' It's possible that the disappointing numbers are growing pains from the rapid transformation caused by Trump and that stronger growth will return — or they may be a preview of even more disruption to come. Trump's aggressive use of tariffs, executive actions, spending cuts and tax code changes carry significant political risk if he is unable to deliver middle-class prosperity. The effects of his new tariffs are still several months away from rippling through the economy, right as many Trump allies in Congress will be campaigning in the midterm elections. 'Considering how early we are in his term, Trump's had an unusually big impact on the economy already,' said Alex Conant, a Republican strategist at Firehouse Strategies. 'The full inflationary impact of the tariffs won't be felt until 2026. Unfortunately for Republicans, that's also an election year.' The White House portrayed the blitz of trade frameworks leading up to Trump's tariff announcement Thursday as proof of his negotiating prowess. The European Union, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Indonesia and other nations that the White House declined to name agreed that the U.S. could increase its tariffs on their goods without doing the same to American products. Trump simply set rates on other countries that lacked settlements. The costs of those tariffs — taxes paid on imports to the U.S. — will be most felt by American consumers in the form of higher prices, but to what extent remains uncertain. 'For the White House and their allies, a key part of managing the expectations and politics of the Trump economy is maintaining vigilance when it comes to public perceptions,' said Kevin Madden, a Republican strategist. Just 38% of adults approve of Trump's handling of the economy, according to a July poll by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs. That's down from the end of Trump's first term when half of adults approved of his economic leadership. The White House paints a rosier image, casting the economy as emerging from a period of uncertainty after Trump's restructuring and repeating the economic gains seen in his first term before the pandemic struck. 'President Trump is implementing the very same policy mix of deregulation, fairer trade, and pro-growth tax cuts at an even bigger scale — as these policies take effect, the best is yet to come,' White House spokesman Kush Desai said. The economic numbers over the last week show the difficulties that Trump might face if the numbers continue on their current path: — Friday's jobs report showed that U.S. employers have shed 37,000 manufacturing jobs since Trump's tariff launch in April, undermining prior White House claims of a factory revival. — Net hiring has plummeted over the last three months with job gains of just 73,000 in July, 14,000 in June and 19,000 in May — a combined 258,000 jobs lower than previously indicated. On average last year, the economy added 168,000 jobs a month. — A Thursday inflation report showed that prices have risen 2.6% over the year that ended in June, an increase in the personal consumption expenditures price index from 2.2% in April. Prices of heavily imported items, such as appliances, furniture and toys and games, jumped from May to June. — On Wednesday, a report on gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the U.S. economy — showed that it grew at an annual rate of less than 1.3% during the first half of the year, down sharply from 2.8% growth last year. 'The economy's just kind of slogging forward,' said Guy Berger, senior fellow at the Burning Glass Institute, which studies employment trends. 'Yes, the unemployment rate's not going up, but we're adding very few jobs. The economy's been growing very slowly. It just looks like a 'meh' economy is continuing.' Trump has sought to pin the blame for any economic troubles on Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, saying the Fed should cut its benchmark interest rates — even though doing so could generate more inflation. Trump has publicly backed two Fed governors, Christopher Waller and Michelle Bowman, for voting for rate cuts at Wednesday's meeting. But their logic is not what the president wants to hear: They were worried, in part, about a slowing job market. But this is a major economic gamble being undertaken by Trump and those pushing for lower rates under the belief that mortgages will also become more affordable as a result and boost homebuying activity. His tariff policy has changed repeatedly over the last six months, with the latest import tax numbers serving as a substitute for what the president announced in April, which provoked a stock market sell-off. It might not be a simple one-time adjustment as some Fed board members and Trump administration officials argue. Of course, Trump can't say no one warned him about the possible consequences of his economic policies. Biden, then the outgoing president, did just that in a speech in December at the Brookings Institution, saying the cost of the tariffs would eventually hit American workers and businesses. 'He seems determined to impose steep, universal tariffs on all imported goods brought into this country on the mistaken belief that foreign countries will bear the cost of those tariffs rather than the American consumer,' Biden said. 'I believe this approach is a major mistake.' Boak and Rugber write for the Associated Press.

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