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Forbes
15-05-2025
- Forbes
Suunto Run Is The Top Watch To Take On Garmin's Budget Forerunner 165
Suunto Run The just-announced Suunto Run is an affordable runner's watch that should catch the attention of anyone shopping for a budget Garmin. Suunto's Run watch costs $249, and could make a compelling alternative to the already excellent Garmin Forerunner 165 Music, at $299. The newer watch has a few key advantages. First up, music support comes as standard in the Suunto Run, while you pay an additional $50 for it in the Garmin range. You get a limited 4GB of internal memory, though, and it's worth noting the Suunto Run does not support integration with services like Amazon Music and Spotify. Instead, MP3s are manually transferred to the storage, which may feel a little archaic to those who have never really maintained an old-school digital music library. There's another important feature, though. The Suunto Run has dual-band L1+L5 GPS, which is missing from the Forerunner 165 — an upgrade to the Forerunner 265 is required for that. Dual-frequency/band GPS is useful for difficult environments in which a watch can struggle to track your location, like in a skyscraper-filled city or a thick forest. The Suunto Run also nets you a larger AMOLED screen than its direct Garmin rival. This is a 1.32-inch 466 x 466 pixel screen with Gorilla Glass protection rather than the unbranded toughened glass often seen in more price-conscious watches. Suunto Run rear Suunto goes beyond the basics in other areas of the design too. Its bezel is stainless steel, which is typically significantly harder than the more common aluminium alloy. And this doesn't, as it often can, dramatically impact weight as much of the casing is still a plastic formulation — 'glass fibre reinforced polyamide.' The Suunto Run weighs 36g, which should be enough to disappear on the wrist. Suunto says a charge will last up to 12 days, and it's rated for 20 hours of GPS use in the dual-band mode, 30 hours in the single-band GPS mode. There are no too-obvious cuts elsewhere either. The Suunto Run has a compass, an altimeter, and supports limited route navigation. You don't get full maps, but can send programmed routes to the Suunto Run for basic trail navigation — almost as useful to many — and structured workouts are onboard as well. Some more advanced stats are included too, such as training readiness and training load. These are crucial indicators as to when you might be pushing too hard, one of the easiest ways to find yourself injured. The Suunto Run also has a new optical heart rate sensor, and a refreshed interface that can be controlled using the rotary dial on the side. Touchscreen operation is an option too, of course. Suunto's Run watch certainly sounds a great deal, and will be available from June 3 in four colors. These are black, grey, orange and a bright 'lime' yellow.
Tom's Guide
14-05-2025
- Tom's Guide
I tested the Garmin Forerunner 165 vs. Suunto Run for a week — which running watch should you buy?
The entry-level AMOLED watch in Garmin's sports watch range offers a lot of impressive features to runners in particular, and has a slick user interface plus useful smart features. It's a little pricier than the Suunto Run, and lacks the dual-band GPS you get on the Suunto. Suunto's entry-level running watch undercuts the competition, including the Forerunner 165, and offers great sports features including extensive training analysis and dual-band GPS. Its smart features are limited though, and it's not as good a fitness tracker as the Forerunner 165. The Suunto Run and Garmin Forerunner 165 are both among the best running watches available, offering great value in particular as the entry-level AMOLED options in the Suunto and Garmin ranges. While the Forerunner 165 offers a more polished user experience and better smart features, the Suunto Run has a more extensive array of sports tracking features, including dual-band GPS, and comes in cheaper than the Forerunner 165 on MRSP. I've tested both watches individually and worn them at the same time for the past week to track my runs and other workouts. I'll cover the key differences I've noticed between the two watches below, and for more information on them check out our Garmin Forerunner 165 review and Suunto Run review. The Garmin Forerunner 165 launched in February 2024 and costs $249.99 / £249.99 for the standard version of the watch and $299.99 / £289.99 for the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music. It's more expensive than the Suunto Run, which launched in May 2025 and only comes in one model that costs $249 / £199 and has music storage. However, the Forerunner 165 is now often in sales that bring the price down to $249 for the music model, matching the Suunto Run's price. Winner: Suunto Run Suunto Run Garmin Forerunner 165 Price $249/£199 $249.99/£249.99; $299.99/£289.99 (Music) Size 46 x 11.5mm 43 x 11.6mm Display 1.32in 466 x 466 AMOLED 1.2in 390 x 390 AMOLED Bezel Steel Polymer Screen Gorilla glass Glass Weight 36g 39g Water resistance 50m 5ATM Battery life (watch mode) Up to 12 days Up to 11 days Battery life (GPS) Up to 20 hours (dual-band) 19 hours (all-systems GPS) Storage 4GB 4GB The Suunto Run and Garmin Forerunner 165 are both small, lightweight watches that are comfortable to wear 24/7. The Forerunner 165 is a little smaller than the Suunto, and has a smaller screen at 1.2 inches vs 1.3 inches for the Suunto Run. Both watches have bright AMOLED displays, but I found the Forerunner 165's a little clearer and easier to read during runs in bright sunlight. I also prefer the five-button setup on the Garmin to the three buttons on the Suunto, one of which is a dial. While both watches are mostly made from plastic, the Suunto does have an steel bezel surrounding its screen. Both watches feel well-made and study, and have a more premium look than you might expect for entry-level sports watches. The Suunto comes with a nylon band as standard, whereas the Garmin comes with a silicone strap. I find the nylon band more comfortable, but both bands can be replaced with third-party straps — the Suunto uses 22mm bands while the Garmin uses 20mm ones. You get four color options for the Suunto and four for the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music, but just two for the standard Forerunner 165 model. Both watches have an impressive array of sensors including a pulse oximeter and barometric altimeter, but one advantage the Suunto has is dual-band GPS tracking, whereas the Forerunner 165 only offers all-systems GPS. Winner: Suunto Run Both watches are mainly designed for running and have dedicated track run modes, but both also offer a lot of other sports modes, including open-water swimming. While neither has a multisport mode, on the Suunto Run you can switch from one sport to another when you pause an activity, and the watch will record your transition, so it will be more useful to triathletes. There are more data field customization options on the Suunto Run, in that you can show more stats on your screen during activities — the Forerunner 165 tops out at four, whereas you can adjust six on the Suunto Run. The Suunto Run also offers a lot more training analysis than the Forerunner 165, and more experienced athletes will enjoy the level of detail you get from the watch compared to the Garmin, which keeps things simple. You can pair external sensors to both watches, though neither support cycling power meters, but the Forerunner 165 offers connectivity via both Bluetooth and ANT+, whereas the Suunto Run only connects to other devices through Bluetooth. Winner: Suunto Run Throughout my testing of both watches I compared their heart rate readings to that of a chest strap, which I always find more reliable than optical sensors on watches. I checked their GPS accuracy against other watches, including the Garmin Fenix 8, and also by looking over the tracks after my runs. During my testing I had both watches in their most accurate GPS modes, which is dual-band tracking on the Suunto Run and all-systems tracking on the Forerunner 165, as the Garmin doesn't offer dual-band. Despite this, I found that both watches recorded very similar GPS tracks on all my runs, and the pacing stats were also very similar. Both have been reliably accurate for me throughout testing, though in hard GPS conditions such as city centers you might well get better results from the dual-band on the Suunto. With regards to heart rate accuracy, both matched up to a chest strap's readings well during bike rides, strength workouts and yoga sessions, but the Forerunner 165 was a little more reliable for me during runs. The Suunto Run would sometimes show too high a heart rate, especially at the start of runs, and while it usually eventually locked onto the right heart rate, it was not as quite as accurate as the Forerunner 165 for me. Winner: Garmin Forerunner 165 Both watches offer music storage, but this is a better feature on the Forerunner 165, which can link with streaming services like Spotify as well as storing MP3 files. The Suunto Run can only store MP3 files, so if you use a streaming service, the Garmin is the better pick. The Forerunner 165 also offers NFC payments through Garmin Pay, whereas you can only use the Suunto Run to pay for things in China using Alipay. Both show notifications from your phone and have a weather forecast widget, but the Forerunner 165 has access to more third-party software through the Connect IQ app store. Winner: Garmin Forerunner 165 On paper the two watches offer similar battery life at up to 11 days for the Suunto and up to 12 for the Garmin in watch mode, then 20 hours of GPS tracking on the Suunto and 19 hours on the Garmin. In practice, the battery drained at almost identical rates for me when using both watches at the same time. I had the screens set to always-on, which shortened the battery life considerably, and both lasted me three to four days on a charge when running every day. Winner: Tie This is a really tough call, because these are both watches I rate very highly that I'd be happy to use as my daily driver as a keen marathoner. I prefer the user interface and music storage on the Garmin, which I find easier to use, but the extra training analysis and data fields you get during activities on the Suunto will be important to runners, and the dual-band GPS will also be a big plus if you regularly run in city centers. If both are at full price I think the Suunto Run is the better way to go, but at the same price the choice will depend on what features you value the most.
