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Joe Rogan urges Texas Democrat to run for president
Joe Rogan urges Texas Democrat to run for president

The Hill

time3 days ago

  • Politics
  • The Hill

Joe Rogan urges Texas Democrat to run for president

Podcast host Joe Rogan offered high praise for state Rep. James Talarico (D) on his podcast Friday, telling the Texas lawmaker that he should launch a White House bid. 'You need to run for president. We need someone who is actually a good person,' Rogan said at the end of a multi-hour interview. Talarico, who has been in office since 2018, has been considered a rising star by some for his Christian faith and popular TikTok account where he pushes back on Texas GOP policy on education and public schools. Appearing on Rogan's podcast is a coveted opportunity for politicians, notably for Democrats looking to recapture the young, male audience the party feels it has lost. Talarico is considering a dark-horse bid for Senate in a crowded Democratic primary that includes former Rep. Colin Allred (D-Texas). He laughed after Rogan told him to run for president and pushed back on the host's suggestion. 'We were talking about how politics has become a religion. This is one of the ways it does. People put all their faith in a politician,' Talarico said. 'I've seen it with Bernie. I like Bernie a whole lot, but some people treat him as if he's a messianic figure,' the Texas lawmaker added. 'And Trump on the right, people treat him as a messiah in some ways. This is a problem.' Talarico told Politico that the invitation from Rogan came after the popular podcast host saw one of his videos on TikTok, where he has almost one million followers. In increasingly viral videos, Talarico has railed against a Texas bill to require schools to display the Ten Commandments and panned a new bill on private school vouchers. He is currently studying to become a pastor.

Joe Rogan's Latest Guest Might Turn Texas Blue
Joe Rogan's Latest Guest Might Turn Texas Blue

Politico

time3 days ago

  • Politics
  • Politico

Joe Rogan's Latest Guest Might Turn Texas Blue

The hottest interview a politician can land these days is, obviously, on Joe Rogan's podcast. But for James Talarico, it fell in his lap — and couldn't come at a better time. The Democratic Texas state representative may not yet be a household name nationally but he is weighing a dark horse bid for the U.S. Senate, and the appearance on Rogan's show released Friday can only boost his cred as a rising star for a party desperate to connect with young men and other disaffected voters. At one point, Rogan told him, 'James Talarico, you need to run for president.' In an interview with POLITICO Magazine, Talarico discussed what it was like to go on Rogan's show and why he thinks the podcaster who endorsed Donald Trump in 2024 is still up for grabs for Democrats going forward. 'He speaks for a lot of people who don't feel like they belong in either political party, and are rightly suspicious of a corrupt political system,' Talarico said. The 36-year-old Talarico is not your average Democratic politician; he's an aspiring preacher who studies at Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary and has gained nearly 1 million followers on TikTok by publishing videos that frequently center on the intersection of his Christian faith and politics. And that's how Rogan found him. Rogan invited Talarico on the podcast after seeing one of his viral videos explaining his opposition to posting the Ten Commandments in public schools. As he was leaving Rogan's Austin, Texas-area studio, he talked about how his party could win over more white Evangelicals, what national Democrats get wrong about Texas and how the party could win the state in 2026 and beyond. This conversation has been edited for length and clarity. What's it like to sit down with Joe Rogan for three hours? Take us into his studio, the moments before and after you record. When we got the email invitation, I originally thought it was a phishing scam. But we called them and realized it was legit, and it was a surprise — just given that I'm a state rep. — to get invited on such a big national platform. He said he had seen some of my videos and wanted to talk. So we jumped at the opportunity. I didn't know what topics he wanted to cover. Really had no specifics beyond that first email. I was kind of going in blind. He and his team are very unassuming. You wouldn't know you were walking into the biggest podcast in the world from their kind of humble setup. They were just very genuine and very, very chill. He said it was a comedian friend who had come across me on social media and told Joe he should listen to me. And so Joe went back and watched some of the videos, and that's where the invitation came from. Rogan in recent weeks has aired some confusion, surprise and even grievance with Trump over some of the administration's early moves: He has called Trump's feud with Canada stupid and called some of Trump's sweeping deportations 'horrific.' Do you get the sense Rogan is a winnable quantity for Democrats ahead of 2026 and 2028? After sitting with him for two and a half hours, I have a clearer understanding of where he's coming from on a lot of this stuff. I just got the overwhelming impression that Joe Rogan is not loyal to either political party, and is deeply skeptical of our political system as a whole. I think that skepticism also applies to Donald Trump, just like it did to Joe Biden last year. I got the impression the reason Joe Rogan has the most popular podcast in the country is because he speaks for a lot of people who don't feel like they belong in either political party, and are rightly suspicious of a corrupt political system. Part of my nerves going in was coming on as an elected official, but I think I was able to shed some light on why the system is broken, at least at the state level, and why it's not working for people — and possible solutions for how to change it. What would you say to your fellow Democrats who are wary of Rogan's influence and the idea that the party should court him or that people like you should go on his show? I think regardless of what people feel about Joe Rogan — or any media figure — we as elected officials, at the very minimum, should have respect for his listeners and take the time to speak to them directly and honestly. I find what Joe Rogan is doing to be refreshing. The fact that he has these longform conversations with people from very different political backgrounds; the fact that he had Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders in the same chair and had long, thorough conversations with both of them; people actually trying to understand each other is a lot healthier than cable news networks or the algorithmic social media that we're all stuck in. I think what Joe Rogan is doing is maybe how we can fix this democracy. If we actually sat down and listened to each other and loved our enemies: That, I think, is the way out of all this. He was eager to talk about the religious content of your videos. How did you approach that? I would say the conversation was probably equal parts politics and faith. And so we talked a lot about spirituality, about the spiritual crisis in this country, particularly among young people, which is something I care a lot about, [and] is something he cares a lot about. It was a wide-ranging conversation that wasn't limited to policy and politics, although there was plenty of that too. That's also why people are attracted to his show: He kind of moves between these topics in a very natural and fluid way. Whereas if you get booked on a traditional news network, you're given your topic that you can talk about for five minutes, and then you're off. In this format, he's pursuing whatever he's interested in. You are a seminary student when you're not politicking. Do you think Democrats are a party that can ever win over more white evangelicals in 2028 when Trump is not on the ballot? I do. I absolutely think we can do that. It's going to require some changes in our party before we're able to expand our coalition and build a bigger tent. What changes? I think we need to start listening to Democrats who are in red and purple areas. There is something about living in a red state that makes you different from a national Democrat who lives in a blue city on the coast. I think we learn how to talk with people outside of our party in a more effective way, because it's a matter of political survival out here. I can't pass anything in the Texas Legislature without getting Republican support, so I've had to find ways to build relationships and build bridges across partisan divides as a Texas Democrat. So that's one. Two I think is generational. I really do think that we need a new generation of leaders in this party to step up and take the reins. All due respect to our more senior members and their wisdom and their experience, that's helpful and valuable, but at a certain point you've got to let fresh faces take over. I just think millennials and Gen Z, especially, even elected officials within my generation, are just more open to going into these kinds of spaces and having these more open conversations that aren't scripted, that aren't controlled by consultants. And it's another reason why we need that generational shift in the party. Do you think Chuck Schumer is the right person to lead Senate Democrats during Trump 2.0? Part of why some people have been asking me to look at the Senate race is because I am very, very disconnected from Washington, D.C., and and I've never worked there, never served there, have not spent much time there in my life, and so I'm not even up to date on the the D.C. drama between these different factions of the party. All I know is what Republican extremism has done in red states like Texas. And I feel that we have a moral imperative to win, and that is my primary focus and anyone and everyone who wants to help us do that is going to be welcome in my mind. Colin Allred has announced his candidacy for Senate, and other Democrats like Beto O'Rourke and Joaquin Castro are mulling it. Are you going to jump in, and have you talked with other potential candidates about who should run? I haven't made a decision yet, but I am seriously considering it. Politics is all about timing, and you just walked into a perfectly timed opportunity in this Rogan podcast — in terms of scoring eyeballs and, perhaps, a national network of small-dollar donors. Does the timing here make you more or less likely to run? It's not the biggest factor in my decision. The decision to run for statewide office, especially in a state as big as Texas, that's not just a political or career decision, that's a life decision. That's where my mind is — not really about the political opportunity and more about: Is this the right fit for me given where I am in my life right now. What advice would you give to fellow Democrats who are trying to connect with the audience that you just connected with on the Rogan show? I want to think it requires courage — because going into a two-and-a-half hour conversation that is unscripted, uncontrolled, with someone who doesn't share all of your political views, I mean, that is a scary situation for anyone to be in, especially to talk about politics and religion. Being a little fearless and being able to get outside of your consultant staff bubble, and getting out of these tightly controlled environments, and going into places that are maybe a little unfriendly, a little less predictable — that kind of risk-taking is necessary. Trying to script everything and control everything is just not going to cut it in 2025 or 2026. If you do run, how will you distinguish yourself from Allred and other contenders? Is there enough room for you? I would only run if I felt like I have something unique to offer the party and, more importantly, the state. And so yes, I would hope that if I did this, it would be because I have something different to say and something different to provide to voters in the primary. If we're going to put up someone against Ken Paxton, you've got to have a nominee who can reach people where they're at and and move them to change the politics of the state. Sen. John Cornyn, the incumbent, is running, too. But part of the bet Democrats weighing a Senate bid in Texas are making is that Paxton is going to be the nominee, prevailing over Cornyn in the primary. What would a matchup with Paxton, who was impeached by the Texas House by you and your GOP colleagues, look like? You mentioned that some folks see this as an opportunity. I think a lot of us see this as a threat. The fact that Ken Paxton, the most corrupt politician in the state of Texas, could be our next U.S. senator, is terrifying for a lot of us who have seen him up close and seen the way he abuses his power and enriches his friends at the expense of the public. I've seen firsthand the damage he's done as attorney general, and I can't imagine what he could do with the office of U.S. senator. But I do want to say that this can't be just about Ken Paxton as a person and as a corrupt political figure. It also needs to be about what Ken Paxton represents. And in my mind, as someone who has watched Ken Paxton up close, who was a part of the impeachment, Ken Paxton represents everything that is wrong with our political system — the corruption, the extremism, the cruelty. And I think in this race, we have an opportunity to prosecute the case, not just against Ken Paxton the man, but Ken Paxton as the symbol for everything that's wrong with politics today. That, to me, is an exciting opportunity, because I do really feel that that people, regardless of where they are on the political spectrum, are just sick and disgusted with how politics feels, that it tears apart families and friendships, the fact that elected officials seem to change once they get power, and they seem to only enrich themselves and their megadonors. It sounds like you're making a pretty good case to yourself about why you should run. I'm making a case of why Ken Paxton shouldn't be the next U.S. senator from Texas. If you had to predict, when do you think Texas goes blue in a presidential year? 2028, 2032, or beyond? In a presidential year? I mean, I think Texas can go blue in 2026. I think it's possible in 2028, too. Donald Trump won this state by only five points in his first reelection when he was an incumbent. He won by more when he was not an incumbent, but when he's in office, Texans typically are not happy with what they see. That was true in 2018, when Beto O'Rourke came within two and a half points of beating Ted Cruz. And it was true in 2020 when Joe Biden came within five points of winning Texas, which I think people forget. I think the recent data suggests that Texans across the spectrum are deeply dissatisfied with what they've seen so far from the Trump administration — even if some of them had high hopes for what he may be able to do and he may be able to shake up. I don't think those hopes have been realized among Texans. What do national Democrats and pundits get wrong about Texas? Oftentimes national Democrats come here to fundraise, and then they don't spend a penny of that money in our state. I think Texas Democrats are kind of fed up with how national Democrats have treated our state. I think the biggest disconnect is a willingness to fight. Texas Democrats, whether it was LBJ and the Great Society, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, even Beto O'Rourke and Wendy Davis more recently — all of them have shown that they can use every tool in the toolbox to fight for the people that we represent and stand up to bullies. That I feel like is what Texas Democrats have been known for throughout our history — this fighting spirit. I think the national party could benefit a lot from adopting some of what we do here in Texas: how we can fight for people even when we're a deep minority. We've shown people that we can be scrappy and use every tool at our disposal to make progress for people. And I think that's what folks around the country are desperate for from either political party right now.

Joe Rogan Tells Texas Dem He Should Run for President
Joe Rogan Tells Texas Dem He Should Run for President

Yahoo

time3 days ago

  • Politics
  • Yahoo

Joe Rogan Tells Texas Dem He Should Run for President

Joe Rogan has thrown his weight behind many different politicians throughout his career, but a suggestion made in the most recent episode of his podcast shows the host is still capable of surprising people. In an interview with Democratic Texas State Rep. James Talarico on The Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan told Talarico that he should consider running for president. During a conversation about whether Americans have lost faith in the future of the country, Talarico argued that Americans should keep having faith in their ability to make change. 'That's because you need to run for president,' Rogan said in response. 'We need someone who's actually a good person.' While at 36 years old, Talarico is technically old enough to occupy the Oval Office, he appears to have his sights set on the Texas state senate instead. The clip of the exchange, as well as other parts of Friday's two-hour-long interview, were shared widely on social media, including by Democratic media personalities like podcaster Brian Tyler Cohen and influencer Harry Sisson. Talarico is a pastor, former teacher, and current state legislator who represents a district in central Texas. Politico has described him as 'the next big thing in Texas politics.' Rogan was reportedly motivated to invite the lawmaker on his show when he saw a 2023 viral video of Talarico criticizing a state law that mandated the placement of the Ten Commandments in every Texas public school classroom. The pair discussed the relationship between politics and religion at length, as well as funding for public education, universal basic income, and engaging young voters. Talarico joins a growing group of Democratic politicians who have recently appeared on podcasts with conservative-leaning audiences, including Bernie Sanders (who sat down with Rogan last month), Pete Buttigieg, and Gavin Newsom. Incidentally, it's widely believed that the latter two are seriously mulling a 2028 election run. Solve the daily Crossword

Joe Rogan fawns over Texas progressive James Talarico who said ‘there are 6' sexes: ‘You need to run for president'
Joe Rogan fawns over Texas progressive James Talarico who said ‘there are 6' sexes: ‘You need to run for president'

New York Post

time4 days ago

  • Politics
  • New York Post

Joe Rogan fawns over Texas progressive James Talarico who said ‘there are 6' sexes: ‘You need to run for president'

Democratic Texas state Rep. James Talarico — who once asserted that 'there are six' sexes — left Joe Rogan so impressed Friday that the popular podcast host urged the young lawmaker to 'run for president.' Talarico, 36, earned the comedian's seal of approval near the end of a lengthy 'Joe Rogan Experience' interview where the teacher-turned-politician discussed his Christian faith, Democratic roots and several state and national policy issues. 'You need to run for president,' Rogan told Talarico, who represents the Lone Star State's 50th District. 'We need someone who is actually a good person.' 3 Joe Rogan told Texas state Rep. James Talarico that he should 'run for president.' The Joe Rogan Experience Talarico, a devout Christian who is currently in seminary school, suggested that Rogan should pump the brakes. 'Can I actually push back on that?' the state rep responded. 'We were talking about how politics has become a religion. This is one of the ways it does. People put all their faith in a politician,' Talarico argued. 'I've seen it with Bernie,' he continued, referring to far-left Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). 'I like Bernie a whole lot, but some people treat him as if he's a messianic figure. And Trump on the right, people treat him as a messiah in some ways. 'This is a problem.' 3 Talarico is a devout Christian who is currently in seminary school. The Joe Rogan Experience Talarico raised eyebrows in the Texas statehouse in 2021 when he claimed sex is measured on a 'spectrum,' rather than a binary, in arguing against a measure seeking to ban transgender athletes from competing in girls' K-12 scholastic sports. '[M]odern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes,' the state rep said during a Public Education Committee hearing on the bill. He added: 'In fact, there are six, which honestly … surprised me, too.' Talarico went on to explain that there are 'six really common biological sexes' based on X and Y chromosomes — not just XX (female) and XY (male), but also single X, XXY, XYY and XXXY. 'The point is that biologically speaking, scientifically speaking, sex is a spectrum, and oftentimes can be very ambiguous,' he said. 3 Talarico posed for a photo with colleague Senfronia Thompson before the flew in a private jet from Austin to Washington, DC. Instagram Rogan is an outspoken critic of radical gender ideology and transgender athletes who play in women's sports. 'When you say there's 78 words for gender, I can safely say you're f–king crazy,' Rogan once said on his podcast.

Dustin Poirier reacts to Joe Rogan's absence from UFC 318 commentary for final fight
Dustin Poirier reacts to Joe Rogan's absence from UFC 318 commentary for final fight

USA Today

time5 days ago

  • Sport
  • USA Today

Dustin Poirier reacts to Joe Rogan's absence from UFC 318 commentary for final fight

NEW ORLEANS – Joe Rogan will miss out on commentating Dustin Poirier's final UFC fight. Poirier (30-9 MMA, 22-8 UFC) challenges Max Holloway (26-8 MMA, 22-8 UFC) for the BMF title in Saturday's UFC 318 (pay-per-view, ESPN, ESPN+) main event at Smoothie King Center in New Orleans. Rogan will uncharacteristically be absent from a U.S. pay-per-view event. Instead, it'll be Paul Felder alongside Daniel Cormier and Jon Anik. "The Diamond" is just happy that his fellow native of Lafayette, La., will be on the call. "Closing it out with Rogan would be cool, but also, DC, the legend he is, and the Louisiana Sports Hall of Famer he is, just everything he brings is awesome to be able to talk to him when it's all said and done," Poirier said during Wednesday's media day. "(He's) another Louisiana boy in New Orleans so, it's special." Poirier will look to make it 3-0 against Holloway after submitting him in their first fight at UFC 143 in 2012, and outlasting him in an all-out war in their rematch to claim the interim lightweight title at UFC 236.

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