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Democrats eyeing 2028 aim to show they're unafraid of enemy turf
Democrats eyeing 2028 aim to show they're unafraid of enemy turf

Washington Post

time10-08-2025

  • Entertainment
  • Washington Post

Democrats eyeing 2028 aim to show they're unafraid of enemy turf

California Gov. Gavin Newsom traveled to Tennessee to appear on a podcast hosted by Shawn Ryan, a conservative, tattooed former Navy SEAL, who opened the show by handing Newsom a Sig Sauer pistol that the Democratic governor proclaimed 'too cool.' Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro (D) joined a podcast a few days later hosted by Ted Nugent, the pro-Trump activist and onetime hard rocker, to discuss his support for allowing hunting in the Keystone State on Sundays.

The Night Agent Season 3: Release date rumors, cast updates and what to expect next
The Night Agent Season 3: Release date rumors, cast updates and what to expect next

Business Upturn

time01-08-2025

  • Entertainment
  • Business Upturn

The Night Agent Season 3: Release date rumors, cast updates and what to expect next

By Aman Shukla Published on August 1, 2025, 18:00 IST Last updated August 1, 2025, 10:49 IST The Night Agent fandom is on fire with anticipation for Season 3. After that jaw-dropping Season 2 finale, everyone's desperate to know when Peter Sutherland's next mission drops, who's joining the cast, and what kind of chaos awaits. Here's the latest scoop on release date rumors, fresh faces, and what to expect, all served up with the kind of excitement this Netflix thriller deserves. When Will The Night Agent Season 3 Hit Netflix? Netflix hasn't spilled an exact release date for The Night Agent Season 3 yet, but the tea from production schedules points to early 2026. Filming started in Istanbul back in late 2024 and wrapped in July 2025, with extra shoots in New York, Mexico City, and the Dominican Republic. Shawn Ryan, the mastermind behind the show, was still tweaking scripts in January 2025, so post-production's probably got a few months to go. Season 2 landed in January 2025, two years after Season 1's March 2023 debut (thanks to that 2023 writers' strike slowing things down). This time, things are moving quicker, so a January or February 2026 premiere feels like a solid bet. Season 1 was a global smash, pulling in 98.2 million views in its first three months and becoming Netflix's top series of 2023. Season 2 shot to No. 1 in 90 countries right after its drop, so Netflix is clearly motivated to keep the momentum going. Fingers crossed for a speedy rollout. Who's Back and Who's New in the Season 3 Cast? The Season 3 cast is stacked with old favorites and some thrilling new players. Gabriel Basso's back as Peter Sutherland, the FBI agent who's now knee-deep in the shady Night Action world. His double-agent gig from Season 2's ending—spying on Jacob Monroe while feeding info to the FBI—sets him up for some serious drama. Several familiar names are sticking around and getting more screen time: Fola Evans-Akingbola returns as Chelsea Arrington, now a series regular. Ward Horton is back as Richard Hagan, the governor who's likely stepping into the Oval Office. Albert Jones reprises his role as Deputy Director Aiden Mosley, who's becoming more central to the FBI's side of the story. Then there's the new blood shaking things up: Jennifer Morrison steps in as the First Lady, Hagan's wife, ready to stir the political pot. Stephen Moyer plays a deadly hitman who's bad news for everyone. David Lyons is a retired spy dragged back into the mess. Genesis Rodriguez joins as a nosy reporter, probably sniffing out secrets. Callum Vinson, fresh off Chucky , brings some youthful energy. Suraj Sharma ( How I Met Your Father ) pops up in a mystery role. Now, the big question: What's up with Luciane Buchanan's Rose Larkin? Season 2 ended with Peter pushing her toward a 'normal' life in California, and neither Shawn Ryan nor Basso have confirmed her return. Fans are torn—will their romance spark again, or is Rose done? Other familiar faces like Louis Herthum (Jacob Monroe) and Amanda Warren (Catherine Weaver, Peter's handler) are likely back, given their big roles in the cliffhanger. There's even whispers about Hong Chau's Diane Farr returning, despite her character being locked up. What's the Plot of Season 3? Season 2 left Peter in a brutal spot: play double agent to take down Jacob Monroe, the shady info broker tied to Governor Hagan, who's about to become President. Peter's got to cozy up to Monroe, dig up dirt, and not get caught—tough gig. Shawn Ryan's teased that Season 3 will dig into who's really running the show—Hagan or Monroe? Expect a tangle of lies and betrayals, with Peter stuck in the middle. The global vibe is huge this season, with filming in Istanbul, New York, Mexico City, and the Dominican Republic. That means international conspiracies and big action scenes, like the car chase stunts spotted in Turkey. Peter's also wrestling with guilt after Season 2's fallout, where his choices might've tipped a presidential election. Will he stay the good guy, or will Night Action drag him into the dark? New characters like Morrison's First Lady or Moyer's hitman could throw major curveballs. And with a reporter like Rodriguez's character snooping around, secrets might not stay buried long. The show's known for mixing standalone thrills with an overarching plot, so Season 3 should deliver both heart-pounding missions and answers to Season 2's big questions. Ahmedabad Plane Crash Aman Shukla is a post-graduate in mass communication . A media enthusiast who has a strong hold on communication ,content writing and copy writing. Aman is currently working as journalist at

Who Is Watching All These Podcasts?
Who Is Watching All These Podcasts?

New York Times

time20-07-2025

  • Entertainment
  • New York Times

Who Is Watching All These Podcasts?

The following are the runtimes of some recent episodes of several of YouTube's more popular podcasts: 'This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von,' #595: Two hours, 14 minutes. 'Club Shay Shay,' #172: Two hours, 59 minutes. 'The Shawn Ryan Show,' #215: Five hours, four minutes. 'Lex Fridman Podcast,' #461: Five hours, 20 minutes. These shows follow the same general format: people sitting in chairs, in generically designed studios, talking. And, like many of the biggest podcasts these days, these shows are all released as videos. They don't feature particularly fancy camerawork, or flashy graphics, or narratives. All of them require time commitments typical of feature films, ball games or marathon performance art installations. Yet going by YouTube's statistics, hundreds of thousands of people have viewed all of the above episodes. Which leads to comments like this, as one fan wrote after a recent episode of Theo Von's show: 'Truly, this podcast was amazing to watch.' So a genre of media named for an audio device — the iPod, discontinued by Apple in 2022 — and popularized by audiences enamored with on-demand listening has transformed in recent years into a visual one. It's well established that the American brain is the prize in a war for attention online, a place that incentivizes brief and sensational content, not static five-hour discussions about artificial intelligence. So what gives? Who exactly is watching the supersize video talk shows that have come to define podcasting over the last several years? At the highest level, the audience for video podcasts is simply people who consume podcasts. 'Who is watching these?' said Eric Nuzum, a podcast strategist. 'A person who loves podcasts who happens to be near a screen.' Indeed, according to an April survey by Cumulus Media and the media research firm Signal Hill Insights, nearly three-quarters of podcast consumers play podcast videos, even if they minimize them, compared with about a quarter who listen only to the audio. Paul Riismandel, the president of Signal Hill, said that this split holds across age groups — it's not simply driven by Gen Z and that younger generation's supposed great appetite for video. But dive a bit deeper into the data, and it becomes clear that how people are watching podcasts — and what counts as watching — is a far more revealing question. According to the Signal Hill survey, about 30 percent of people who consume podcasts 'play the video in the background or minimize on their device while listening.' Perhaps this person is folding laundry and half-watching 'Pod Save America,' or has 'The Joe Rogan Experience' open in a browser tab while they do busy work at the office. That describes Zoë McDermott, a 31-year-old title insurance producer from Pennsylvania, who said she streams video of Theo Von's show on her phone while she works. 'I don't have the ability to watch the entire thing through, but I do my glance downs if I hear something funny,' Ms. McDermott said. 'It's passive a little bit.' Still, this leaves everyone else — more than half of YouTube podcast consumers, who say they are actively watching videos. Here, it gets even trickier. YouTube, the most popular platform for podcasts, defines 'views' in a variety of ways, among them a user who clicks 'play' on a video and watches for at least 30 seconds: far from five hours. And the April survey data did not distinguish between people who were watching, say, four hours of Lex Fridman interviewing Marc Andreessen from people who were viewing the much shorter clips of these podcasts that are ubiquitous on TikTok, Instagram Reels, X and YouTube itself. All of which makes it hard to pinpoint a 'typical' podcast viewer. Is it a couple on the couch with a bucket of popcorn, streaming to their smart TV? Is it a young office worker scrolling through TikTok during his commute? Or is it the same person engaging in different behavior at different points in the day? Alyssa Keller, who lives in Michigan with her family, said sometimes she watches 'The Shawn Ryan Show' on the television with her husband. But more often, she puts the video on the phone for a few hours while her children are napping. This means she sometimes has to watch marathon episodes in chunks. 'I've been known to take multiple days,' she said. 'Nap times only last for like two hours.' In February, YouTube announced that more than a billion people a month were viewing podcasts on its platform. According to Tim Katz, the head of sports and news partnerships at YouTube, that number is so large it must include users who are actually mainlining five-hour talk shows. 'Any time you have a number that large, you're going to have a broad swath of people consuming in lots of different ways,' Mr. Katz said. Recently, The New York Times asked readers if and how they consume video podcasts. Many of the respondents said they played video podcasts in the background while attending to work or chores, and still treated podcasts as audio-only products. A few said they liked being able to see the body language of podcast hosts and their guests. Still others said that they didn't like video podcasts because they found the visual component distracting or unnecessary. Video can have its drawbacks. Lauren Golds, a 37-year-old researcher based in Virginia, said that she regularly hate-watches podcasts at work — in particular 'On Purpose,' which is hosted by the British entrepreneur and life coach Jay Shetty. She said she'd had awkward encounters when co-workers have looked at her screen and told her that they love the show she's watching. 'There's no way to say it's garbage and I'm watching it for entertainment purposes to fill my need for hatred,' Ms. Golds said. One thing a 'typical' podcaster consumer is less likely to be these days is someone listening to a full-attention-required narrative program. Say 'podcast' and many people still instinctively think of painstakingly produced, deeply reported, audio-only shows like 'Serial' and 'This American Life,' which listeners consumed via audio-only platforms like Apple Podcasts and the iHeartRadio app. Traditional podcasts relied on host-read and scripted ads to make money, and on media coverage and word of mouth for discovery. And it was a lot of money, in some cases: In 2019, to take one example, Spotify acquired Gimlet — one of the defining podcast producers of the 2010s — as part of a $340 million investment in podcast start-ups. Now, the size of the market for video podcasts is too large to ignore, and many ad deals require podcasters to have a video component. The platforms where these video podcasts live, predominantly YouTube and Spotify, are creating new kinds of podcast consumers, who expect video. Ms. McDermott, the Theo Von fan, said the video component made her feel like she had a friendly guest in her home. 'It feels a little more personal, like somebody is there with you,' she said. 'I live alone with my two cats and I'm kind of in a rural area in Pennsylvania, so it's just a little bit of company almost.' The world of podcasts today is also far more integrated into social media. Clips of video podcasts slot neatly into the Gen Z and millennial behemoths of TikTok and Instagram. The sophisticated YouTube recommendation algorithm suggests relevant new podcasts to viewers, something that wasn't possible in the old, siloed model on other platforms. To get a sense of just how much things have changed, imagine the viral podcast appearances of the 2024 presidential campaign — Donald J. Trump on Theo Von's podcast and Kamala Harris on 'Call Her Daddy' — happening without YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and X. You can't. In a sign of the times, in June the radio company Audacy shuttered Pineapple Street Studios, a venerable podcast producer known for its in-depth narrative shows like 'Wind of Change' and Ronan Farrow's 'The Catch and Kill Podcast.' Jenna Weiss-Berman, who co-founded Pineapple Street, is now the head of audio at the comedian and actress Amy Poehler's Paper Kite Productions. Ms. Poehler's new podcast, called 'Good Hang with Amy Poehler,' is typical of the genre: a charismatic, well-known host, interviewing other charismatic, well-known people. Ms. Weiss-Berman said she was concerned that the costs associated with high-quality video production would be prohibitive for smaller podcast creators, who faced almost no barrier to entry when all the genre required was a few microphones. 'If you want to do it well, you need a crew and a studio,' Ms. Weiss-Berman said. For podcasters with an established audience, the potential of video to open up new audiences for the world of talk podcasts is obvious. (The New York Times has introduced video podcasts hosted by some of its more recognizable columnists.) Adam Friedland, a comedian who started his video interview show in 2022, first came to prominence on an irreverent and lewd audio-only hangout podcast with two fellow comedians. He got an early taste of the limitations of traditional podcast distribution when he discovered fan cut-ups of the funniest moments of his old show on YouTube. 'There was an organic growth to it,' Mr. Friedland said. 'We weren't doing press or promoting it.' Mr. Friedland's new show is an arch interview program with high-profile guests and considerably fewer impenetrable — not to mention scatological — references. Along with that, distribution over YouTube has made a once cult figure something a bit closer to a household name, as he discovered recently. 'There was a regular middle-aged guy at a Starbucks who said he liked the show,' Mr. Friedland recalled. 'Some guy holding a Sweetgreen.' Mr. Friedland's show is the rare video podcast with a distinctive visual point of view; the vintage-looking set is a reconstruction of 'The Dick Cavett Show.' And Mr. Friedland made it clear that he prefers people to watch the show rather than listen to it. The many ways that Americans now consume podcasts — actively and passively, sometimes with another device in hand, sometimes without — bears an obvious similarity to the way Americans consume television. 'I think podcasts could become kind of the new basic cable television,' said Marshall Lewy, the chief content officer of Wondery, a podcast network owned by Amazon. Think: shows that are cheaper to produce than so-called premium streaming content, consumed by audiences used to half-watching television while scrolling their smartphones, in a wide variety of genres. Indeed, while talk dominates among video podcasts, Mr. Lewy said he thought the trend for video would lead to more shows about food and travel — categories beloved by advertisers — that weren't ideal when podcasts were audio only. All of which calls into question the basic nature of the term 'podcast.' Mr. Riismandel, who runs the research firm Signal Hill, said he thought the category applied to any programming that could be listened to without video and still understood. According to Mr. Katz, the YouTube executive, the nature of the podcaster is undergoing a redefinition. It includes both audio-only podcasters moving to video, as well as social media content creators who have realized that podcasts present another opportunity to build their audiences. One concern with the shift to video, according to the former Vox and Semafor video boss Joe Posner, is that people who are less comfortable onscreen will be left out. This could lead to a deepening gender divide, for example, since women are much more likely to face harassment over their looks, especially from an engaged online fan base — and therefore potentially less likely to want to be on camera for hours on end. Still, for all the eyeballs moving to YouTube, audio remains the way most consumers experience podcasts, according to the April survey, with 58 percent of people listening to only audio or to a minimized or backgrounded video. And while YouTube is now the most used platform for podcast consumption, per the survey, it's far from monolithic; a majority of podcast consumers say they use a platform other than YouTube most often, whether it's Spotify or Apple Podcasts. That's why at least one pillar of audio-first podcasting doesn't see much to be alarmed about. Ira Glass, the creator of the foundational long-form radio show 'This American Life,' said that the fact that the podcast tent has gotten bigger and thrown up a projector screen doesn't threaten a program like his. 'That's a strength, not a weakness — that both things exist and are both called the same thing,' Mr. Glass said. He stressed that audio-only podcasting has formal strengths that video podcasts don't. 'There's a power to not seeing people,' Mr. Glass continued. 'There's a power to just hearing things. It just gets to you in a different way. But if people want to watch people on a talk show that seems fine to me. I don't feel protective of podcasting in that way. I don't have snowflake-y feelings about podcasts.'

Joe Rogan confronts Gavin Newsom with ‘tough' questions on pandemic record: ‘Motherf–ker'
Joe Rogan confronts Gavin Newsom with ‘tough' questions on pandemic record: ‘Motherf–ker'

New York Post

time17-07-2025

  • Politics
  • New York Post

Joe Rogan confronts Gavin Newsom with ‘tough' questions on pandemic record: ‘Motherf–ker'

California Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom was pressed to defend his COVID-19 record by podcast giant Joe Rogan on Monday. The Democratic leader, and likely 2028 presidential candidate, appeared on former U.S. Navy SEAL Shawn Ryan's podcast for a wide-ranging interview about problems facing California as well as Newsom's personal life and political career. Advertisement During the interview, Ryan asked Newsom to respond to a question sent in to him by his friend and fellow podcaster. 'Motherf—–r,' Newsom exclaimed before saying he was a fan of Rogan, who has been critical of the Democrat. Ryan warned Newsom it was a 'tough' question before reading it aloud: 'Who will be held accountable for mandating COVID-19 vaccines for children, which were unnecessary and ineffective, and who will take responsibility for the unprecedented increases in myocarditis and cancer cases among them?' 'Second to that, do you feel any remorse for that draconian decision that was obviously heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical companies' desire for maximum profit?' Advertisement 4 Gavin Newsom appeared on former U.S. Navy SEAL Shawn Ryan's podcast. Youtube / Shawn Ryan Show Newsom denied that he caved to the pharmaceutical industry, saying he's passed 'some of the most progressive laws' against Big Pharma in the nation. He also defended his record on the pandemic, arguing California worked closely with the Trump administration and moved aggressively to mitigate damage from the virus, 'like many states, red states included.' 'I mean, Florida shut down their bars and restaurants before California. The question was, when did we start to unwind some of those restrictions? California was more restrictive and we were certainly aggressive at scale,' he said. Advertisement 4 Joe Rogan attends the UFC 277 ceremonial weigh-in at American Airlines Center on July 29, 2022 in Dallas, Texas. Getty Images The governor claimed his team was compiling an 'objective review' of the good and bad outcomes of these policies and comparing them to what other states did. Regarding vaccines, Newsom declared they 'save lives' but that he respected Rogan's question. He explained that he received 'a lot of feedback' from independent advisors regarding their safety. 'I took their advice, not as a doctor, but as a governor. So, with humility —seriously —humility and grace, I've asked them to have that report done. It's going to be done next month. And it'll be the only state that I know of that is putting out a truly objective review of what went right and what went wrong,' he added. Advertisement 4 Newsom denied that he caved to the pharmaceutical industry, saying he's passed 'some of the most progressive laws' against Big Pharma in the nation. Youtube / Shawn Ryan Show 'I know everyone's a Godd— genius now in hindsight,' Newsom declared. 'But at the time, none of us knew what we were up against, including the President of the United States, who I worked very closely with.' Newsom appeared to shift some of the scrutiny of his leadership onto President Donald Trump, claiming he worked closer with Trump than any other Democratic governor during the pandemic. 'And I say that with the kind of humility he deserves as well —grace that he deserves in terms of the decisions he made early on. We were all up against something none of us had any experience on,' he said. 4 Regarding vaccines, Newsom declared they 'save lives' but that he respected Rogan's question. Youtube / Shawn Ryan Show When asked if he had made any mistakes during the pandemic, Newsom named the closures of outdoor spaces like beaches as something he would've done differently. The governor went on to argue that California had unfairly become a symbol of failed pandemic policies when states like Florida had taken similar actions during the pandemic early on. 'We weren't the only state doing it, but the state of mind of the 'California Derangement Syndrome.' There's a 'Trump Derangement Syndrome,' no question. But there's also 'California Derangement Syndrome.' As if California stands unique in some of these interventions and respects. It's true in some but not all,' he said.

Gavin Newsom drops F-bomb when Joe Rogan asks whether he regrets major decision while governor
Gavin Newsom drops F-bomb when Joe Rogan asks whether he regrets major decision while governor

Daily Mail​

time16-07-2025

  • Politics
  • Daily Mail​

Gavin Newsom drops F-bomb when Joe Rogan asks whether he regrets major decision while governor

California Governor Gavin Newsom dropped an F-bomb at the mere mention of Joe Rogan before answering a 'tough' question from podcast king. Newsom stunned listeners with a blunt response when asked to address his most controversial pandemic-era policies and dropped during the four-hour long interview on The Shawn Ryan Show. Ryan - a former Navy Seal - revealed that he had received a private text message from Rogan prior to the interview to ask Newsom. 'Joe Rogan texted me,' Ryan revealed. 'Mother f**ker!' Newsom responded. 'What did he say? I'm a Joe Rogan fan. He ain't a fan of mine, but I'm a Joe Rogan fan,' Newsom insisted. 'No bulls***! He won't have me on the show by the way.' Rogan's message accused the governor of implementing 'draconian' COVID-19 vaccine mandates for children, ignoring risks like myocarditis, and bowing to pharmaceutical interests. Rogan, who has long criticized public health messaging, demanded to know whether Newsom 'felt any remorse' for what he described as unnecessary and profit-driven policies. The question, read aloud on the podcast, struck a nerve. 'Who will be held accountable for mandating Covid-19 vaccines for children which were unnecessary and ineffective and who will take responsibility for the unprecedented increases in myocarditis and cancer cases among them?', Ryan began as he read Rogan's message. 'Second to that, do you feel any remorse for that draconian decision that was obviously heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical company's desire for maximum profit?' Newsom didn't flinch - but he didn't avoid the question either. 'I've signed some of the most progressive laws against Big Pharma in the country. I have receipts on that.,' Newsom said firmly. 'So no one should suggest that it was about doing the bidding of Big Pharma. Quite the contrary.' Newsom defended his decision-making during the early days of the pandemic noting how California moved quickly alongside red states like Florida and under guidance from Donald Trump's own administration to implement lockdowns and other measures. 'There wasn't a Democratic governor in America that worked closer during the pandemic than I did with Donald Trump,' Newsom said, reflecting on the chaos and uncertainty that defined the initial response to Covid-19. Rather than offer a flat apology, Newsom said he has recently launched an in-depth, state-sponsored investigation into California's handling of the pandemic. Newsom says the process will be the most comprehensive and 'objective' postmortem in the country. 'With humility, seriously, humility and grace, I've asked them to have that report done,' he said. 'It'll be the only state that I know of that is putting out a truly objective review of what went right and what went wrong.' The governor acknowledged that mistakes were made, particularly with early policies that were driven by fear and misinformation. Among the regrets Newsom says shutting down beaches and other outdoor spaces was a mistake. 'What the hell were we doing shutting down the beaches and open areas?' he asked. 'We were sitting there wiping down everything in the house with Purell.' Still, Newsom stood by the science behind vaccinations, especially when it came to preventing mass deaths. 'Vaccines save lives. Period. Full stop,' he said. 'And I'm just not going to engage in the kind of revisionist history that pretends otherwise.' In a particularly candid moment of the lengthy interview, Newsom said he regretted heading to trendy restaurant French Laundry for dinner during the pandemic despite there being strict rules on indoor dining and the number of people allowed to gather. 'I despise me for the French Laundry. I was wrong. I went to this damn restaurant. That's the rules for thee and not for me,' Newsom said. 'I'm going to indict myself here. Biggest boneheaded damn decision I made. Now, it was a restaurant that was open but it was against the spirit of what I was saying which is that you shouldn't have large dinners with large groups of people as we did. 'And I went to a damn birthday party and I paid a price - and I own it. You know, I'm not perfect, man. You know, I beat the s*** out of myself for that. And everyone who criticized me is goddamn right. And I own that.' Under Newsom's leadership, California became one of the most aggressive states in its pandemic response - mandating remote work, issuing sweeping mask orders, and imposing the first statewide stay-at-home directive in the nation in March 2020. The state leaned into digital infrastructure, which allowed many industries to adapt through remote work. Its sunny climate and car-centric culture also allowed for more outdoor activities than in densely packed cities on the East Coast. But the costs were steep as tens of thousands of small businesses shuttered permanently. Public schools remained closed longer than in many other states. Critics hammered Newsom for what they called inconsistent and sometimes hypocritical rules, citing his now-infamous dinner at the upscale French Laundry restaurant while indoor gatherings were banned. Despite the criticism, Newsom pushed back on the idea that states like Florida had done better. 'Florida shut down bars and restaurants before California. Florida had worse educational outcomes during COVID than California,' he said, citing reading and math scores. 'They had more per capita deaths than California. Their GDP contracted more than California's. On three key areas, education, health, and wealth, California outperformed.' He dismissed what he called 'myth-making' around Florida's record and claimed that the 'California derangement syndrome' had become a media obsession. Newsom also voiced concern about the country's preparedness for future pandemics, warning that political division and distrust have left the US vulnerable. 'We're going to have another one of these damn things,' he said. 'And we're totally unprepared because we're so distrustful of everybody.' Rather than treat the pandemic as political hindsight, Newsom said California's upcoming report will aim to break partisan narratives. 'We're interviewing people that vehemently disagreed with us,' he explained. 'People who opposed the mask mandates. People who opposed the stay-at-home orders. International experts. We're stress-testing our entire process.' That process, he said, began years ago at a summit in Sunnylands, where California convened global health experts to begin gathering data on how it handled COVID across its 58 counties - each with different levels of density, infrastructure, and risk. While the final verdict on California's performance will be up to historians and voters, Newsom had a clear message. 'Everyone's a goddamn genius now in hindsight,' he said. 'But at the time, none of us knew what we were up against - including the president of the United States.'

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