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NBC News
17-07-2025
- Business
- NBC News
Potential Powell successor pushes ‘regime change' at the Fed
Former Federal Reserve Governor Kevin Warsh, reportedly on President Donald Trump's short list to lead the institution, called Thursday for sweeping changes on how the central bank conducts business and suggested a policy alliance with the Treasury Department. 'We need regime change in the conduct of policy,' Warsh said during an interview on CNBC's ' Squawk Box.' 'The credibility deficit lies with the incumbents that are at the Fed, in my view.' Principal among those holdover officials is Chair Jerome Powell, who repeatedly has incurred Trump's wrath and is certain not to be reappointed when his term expires in May 2026, if attempts aren't made to remove him before then. Warsh is considered one of three or four finalists to take over, and he expressed multiple sentiments in line with what Trump wants from the Fed. The president has demanded the Fed to cut its benchmark overnight borrowing rate and has urged Powell to resign for not pushing for cuts. Warsh's comments indicate he could be at loggerheads not only with the way Powell has led the Fed, but also with holdover members who would be in place should he be put at the organization's helm. 'Their hesitancy to cut rates, I think, is actually quite a quite a mark against them,' Warsh said. 'The specter of the miss they made on inflation, it has stuck with them. So one of the reasons why the President, I think, is right to be pushing the Fed publicly is we need regime change in the conduct of policy.' In the latest drama surrounding the Fed and its embattled chair, a Trump administration official on Wednesday confirmed that the president met with Republican lawmakers the previous day and discussed Trump firing Powell. The official said Trump planned to do so soon, but he denied that shortly after. In addition to the rates issue, White House officials have criticized Powell over a multi-billion dollar renovation program at two of the Fed's buildings in Washington, D.C. Asked whether Trump should try to fire Powell, Warsh said, 'I think regime change at the Fed will happen in due course.' Trump's main stated reason in pushing for rate cuts has been to help lower financing costs on the nation's $36 trillion deb, which ostensibly out of the Fed's twin goals of low unemployment and stable prices. However, Warsh seemed to take the issue a step further and suggested a coordination between the Fed and the Treasury Department in how the nation manages debt issuance. 'We need a new Treasury-Fed accord, like we did in 1951 after another period where we built up our nation's debt and we were stuck with a central bank that was working at cross purposes with the Treasury. That's the state of things now,' he said. 'So if we have a new accord, then the .. Fed chair and the Treasury secretary can describe to markets plainly and with deliberation, 'This is our objective for the size of the Fed's balance sheet.'' The Fed is currently shrinking its balance sheet by allowing proceeds from maturing debt to roll off, rather than being reinvested as usual. Warsh generally supports the idea, known as quantitative tightening, but recently asserted that the Fed ought to be working with Treasury to help lower borrowing costs. 'I think the Fed has the balance wrong. A rate cut is the beginning of the process to get the balance right,' he said. However, the last time the Fed cut rates, Treasury yields actually rose. Markets expect the Fed to hold its benchmark funds rate steady at its policy meeting in late July, then possibly start cutting in September.


Mint
17-07-2025
- Business
- Mint
Why political pressure on central banks is so toxic for investors
Fed chief Jerome Powell has been under pressure for months from President Trump. Investors sent a warning Wednesday that central-bank independence matters to Wall Street. Reports that President Trump was again pondering firing Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell drove longer-term Treasury yields higher and the dollar lower. The markets see the prospect of higher inflation if a new Fed regime were to cut rates in line with Trump's wishes. Some analysts say there would be global consequences, because Treasurys and the dollar underpin financial markets worldwide. Trump told reporters Wednesday at the White House that it was 'highly unlikely" he would fire Powell, adding later, 'Unless he has to leave for fraud." Trump alluded to an effort by White House advisers to target renovations at Fed properties that have cost more than planned. The market's moves faded as the day went on, but the message was clear: Don't mess with the Fed. Past examples of tension between heads of government and their central bankers offer clues about how the Trump-Powell showdown could play out. Politicians usually want lower rates, mindful of consumer and business borrowing costs. Central bankers need to promote stable prices. 'Political pressure and in this case, presidential pressure, increases the risk that there will be a pedal-to-the-metal inflationary episode," said Mark Spindel, an investment manager who co-wrote a history of Fed independence. The modern concept of Fed independence can be traced to the 1951 Treasury-Fed accord, which gave the central bank a freer hand to set interest rates as it saw fit. The Fed since has enjoyed considerable autonomy, though it hasn't been immune to political pressure. Former President Lyndon Johnson urged Fed leader William McChesney Martin Jr. to keep rates low while he pursued his broad social-spending agenda. In an October 1965 meeting, Johnson stretched out his arm and clenched his fingers in describing how a rate increase would 'amount to squeezing blood from the American working man in the interest of Wall Street," Paul Volcker, then an assistant Treasury secretary, recalled in his memoir. When Martin cast the deciding vote to raise rates two months later, he warned colleagues they were risking a furious backlash from Johnson. Martin was summoned to Johnson's Texas ranch days later, where the president reportedly yelled at him. The next Fed chair, Arthur Burns, was a well-regarded economist who was known as an inflation fighter when former President Richard Nixon appointed him to the post in 1970. But historians say Burns became overly preoccupied with currying favor with the president, who desperately wanted to hold rates low ahead of his 1972 re-election campaign, despite growing inflation. 'Evidence from the Nixon tapes clearly reveals that President Nixon pressured Burns, both directly and indirectly…to engage in expansionary monetary policies prior to the 1972 election," researchers wrote in a 2006 paper in the Journal of Economic Perspectives. Inflation was out of control by the late 1970s, stoked in part by Burns's reluctance to raise rates early on in the decade. In the aftermath, former President Ronald Reagan and some other future occupants of the White House refrained from publicly criticizing the Fed. Central-bank watchers point to the Bank of England's more recent independence as a success story. Founded in 1694, the world's second oldest central bank had longstanding reporting lines into the monarchy and Her Majesty's Treasury, the U.K.'s economic and finance ministry. 'Elections influenced the nature and timing of decisions on interest rates," former Bank of England governor Mervyn King wrote in 2017. 'When I arrived at the BoE as chief economist in 1991, it was clear that interest rates could change at any time on any day." By the early 1990s, the pound was increasingly volatile, heavy currency intervention wasn't working and a panicked government lost credibility. The pound crashed against the dollar in 1992, disrupting the economy. In an effort to improve investor confidence, Britain's new Labour government in 1997 granted the central bank the ability to set interest rates independently. British stocks soared, and government bond yields fell in the following years. 'It was a more progressive, left wing administration, but the move enabled them to distance themselves from some of these decisions," Spindel said 'The stock and bond markets afforded a huge vote of confidence when they took away the prime minister's pressure." In a more recent—and extreme—example, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan sacked his country's central banker in early 2021. As the developing economy struggled with the twin specters of slowing growth and persistent inflation, Erdogan fired central bank governor Naci Agbal after Agbal raised interest rates to rein in rising prices. Erdogan claimed that lowering interest rates would reduce inflation by cutting corporate borrowing costs. The idea contradicted widely accepted economic principles that low interest rates push prices up by spurring economic activity. 'The predictable result was blowup inflation and eventually a move toward monetary orthodoxy on the part of Erdogan," said Kasper Bartholdy, an economist who worked in emerging markets fixed income strategy for Credit Suisse at the time. Turkey's inflation more than tripled to 72% in 2022 and the lira lost about 60% of its value against the U.S. dollar, fueling economic pain and popular discontent. Fitch Ratings slashed Turkish government bonds to single-B in 2022 before Erdogan appointed an economic team in 2023 that raised interest rates. 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