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This week on "Sunday Morning" (May 25)

This week on "Sunday Morning" (May 25)

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COVER STORY: Memorial DayElaine Quijano reports.
ALMANAC: May 25"Sunday Morning" looks back at historical events on this date.
ARTS: Food as art that's good enough to eatIn the latest issue of Bon Appétit, the venerable food and entertaining magazine is trying something new: recipes designed to imitate notable works of art. "Sunday Morning" host Jane Pauley samples a menu inspired by the works of such artists as Helen Frankenthaler, Judy Chicago, and Wayne Thiebaud.
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WORLD: BBC journalist in RussiaElizabeth Palmer reports.
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BOOKS: Anne Tyler on a writer's "selfish motive" to explore other livesAnne Tyler's bestselling novels – tales of lives shattered and mended by love – have broken the hearts of countless readers. In her latest, "Three Days in June," Tyler details a weekend in the life of a divorced school administrator, bookended by the loss of her job and her daughter's wedding. "Sunday Morning" national correspondent Robert Costa talks with the Pulitzer Prize-winning writer about finding inspiration in the lives of "humdrum" characters, and what it means to her to create "an extremely believable lie."
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"Three Days in June" by Anne Tyler (Random House), in Hardcover, Large Print Trade paperback, eBook and Audio formats, available via Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Bookshop.organnetyler.com (Official site)
THE BOOK REPORT: Ron Charles on new summer readsThe Washington Post book reviewer offers highlights from the season's fiction and non-fiction releases.
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Ron Charles, The Washington PostSubscribe to the free Washington Post Book World NewsletterRon Charles' Totally Hip Video Book ReviewBookshop.org (for ordering from independent booksellers)
PASSAGE: In memoriam"Sunday Morning" remembers some of the notable figures who left us this week.
ARTS: The trailblazing cartoon art of Barbara ShermundArtist Barbara Shermund (1899- 1978) was one of the first women cartoonists for The New Yorker and other major magazines, from the 1920s into the '60s. But she died with barely a trace – and her reputation lay dormant, until a distant relative and a cartoon historian teamed up to connect the dots of Shermund's life and work. Correspondent Faith Salie talks with investigator Amanda Gormley and curator Caitlin McGurk (author of "Tell Me a Story Where the Bad Girl Wins: The Life and Art of Barbara Shermund") about resurrecting a trailblazing humorist and her scintillating takes on sex, marriage and society.
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Exhibition: "Tell Me a Story Where the Bad Girl Wins: The Life and Art of Barbara Shermund," at the Brandywine Museum of Art, Chadds Ford, Pa. (through June 1)"Tell Me a Story Where the Bad Girl Wins: The Life and Art of Barbara Shermund" by Caitlin McGurk (Fantagraphics), in Hardcover and eBook formats, available via Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Bookshop.orgBilly Ireland Cartoon Library and Museum at the Ohio State University
PREVIEW: Summer arts
HARTMAN: TBD
MUSIC: Music producer David Foster on "Boop!," Barbra, and balladsFor the past fifty years, David Foster produced some of music's most iconic artists, and won 16 Grammy Awards along the way. But the hit-maker's latest project is the Tony-nominated "Boop! The Musical," for which Foster wrote about fifty songs. He talks with correspondent Tracy Smith about discovering such unique talents as Celine Dion and Michael Bublé; working with such demanding artists as Barbra Streisand and the rock group Chicago; and what he really thinks about legacy.
You can stream selections from the Broadway cast recording of "Boop! The Musical" by clicking on the embed below (Free Spotify registration required to hear the tracks in full):
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"Boop! The Musical" at the Broadhurst Theatre, New York City | Ticket infodavidfoster.com
PREVIEW: Summer music
PREVIEW: Summer movies
BUSINESS: Delta Air Lines' 100th year takes flightIn 1925, what would become Delta Air Lines started as the world's first aerial crop-dusting operation in the Mississippi Delta region. Nearly a century after its first passenger flight, the airline has survived mergers, recessions and bankruptcy, growing from a single passenger route to an international carrier with more than 5,000 flights a day. Correspondent Kris Van Cleave talks with Delta's CEO Ed Bastian about the airline's future amid worries about the economy and aviation safety; visits the Delta Flight Museum in Atlanta; and attends a "garage sale" where the airline's fans can buy pieces of aviation history.
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Delta Air LinesDelta Flight Museum, AtlantaDelta Flight Museum Surplus SalesHenry Harteveldt, Atmosphere Research Group
COMMENTARY: Health expert calls Trump's medical research cuts "reckless destruction"Dr. Timothy Johnson, longtime network TV medical reporter and founding editor of the Harvard Medical School Health Letter, says that by cutting more than $1.8 billion in grants from the National Institutes of Health, the Trump administration risks destroying U.S. medical research infrastructure and prompting a "brain drain" of scientists to other countries.
NATURE: TBD
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WEB EXTRA: "Survivor" winner Kyle Fraser's pre-game interview (YouTube Video)Prior to the start of Season 48 of "Survivor," correspondent Jonathan Vigliotti spoke with contestant Kyle Fraser, an attorney from Brooklyn, about his road to Fiji; his strategy going into the popular reality TV competition; and how he presented himself to his fellow players. [In the end, Fraser was voted the million-dollar-winner of "Survivor."]
MOVIES: The history of the blockbuster movie (YouTube Video)
It's been assumed that the Hollywood summer blockbuster was born with the 1975 release of Steven Spielberg's "Jaws," followed two years later by "Star Wars." But the film industry's desire for box office blockbusters existed long before a shark prowled the waters off Amity. Turner Classic Movies host Ben Mankiewicz talks with actor Stephen Lang (star of the "Avatar" films), critic Dana Stevens, and Charles Acland, author of "American Blockbuster," about the origin of blockbuster movies – both big-budget spectacles of Biblical proportions, and low-budget films with heart that won a huge audience.
FROM 2020: Now showing - The return of the drive-in (YouTube Video)Nancy Giles looks into the resurgence of drive-in movie theatres, and their offshoots – projections in parking lots, and screenings on the water.
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Ex-Biden adviser calls Jean-Pierre ‘kinda dumb,' deletes tweet, says she's not a ‘genius-level Black woman'
Ex-Biden adviser calls Jean-Pierre ‘kinda dumb,' deletes tweet, says she's not a ‘genius-level Black woman'

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Ex-Biden adviser calls Jean-Pierre ‘kinda dumb,' deletes tweet, says she's not a ‘genius-level Black woman'

As criticism mounts from within Biden's world against former White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and her new book, one ex-aide lambasted the now-Independent ombudswoman as "kinda dumb" — a tweet he deleted but later stood by. Timothy Wu, now a Columbia Law professor, was former President Joe Biden's "architect" of antitrust policy whose faculty bio claims he also coined the progressive term "net neutrality" in 2002. In a now-deleted tweet, Wu wrote: "from a [White House] staff perspective, the real problem with Karine Jean-Pierre was that she was kinda dumb." "[She had n]o interest in understanding harder topics. Just gave random incoherent answers on policy," Wu added in the trashed tweet. The X account "I work with my word" replied to the original tweet, calling it "pretty racist," and the tweet was later deleted, but the reply remained. Below the reply, Wu added a new line of commentary, saying the Biden White House was "full of genius-level Black women. [Jean-Pierre] was not one of them." In response to another X user asking Wu whether Trump White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt understands executive policy, the professor said a good ombudsperson will "meet with policy staff and try and understand what the administration is doing and why." Fox News Digital reached out to Wu via his Columbia faculty office, where he has taught since 2006. The former Biden adviser was also a Democratic primary candidate for New York's lieutenant governorship in 2014, and also worked in the Obama administration and at the Federal Trade Commission. Jean-Pierre announced Wednesday that she left the Democratic Party and has become an Independent while revealing her upcoming book: "Independent: A Look Inside a Broken White House, Outside the Party Lines." She was mocked and criticized by several people in Biden's orbit besides Wu, including one who said, "I wouldn't ignore what Karine has to say, but it's not an account in which much weight will be invested — just like her briefings." "At noon on that day [that Biden left office], I became a private citizen who, like all Americans and many of our allies around the world, had to contend with what was to come next for our country. I determined that the danger we face as a country requires freeing ourselves of boxes. We need to be willing to exercise the ability to think creatively and plan strategically," Jean-Pierre said of her new Independent streak.

Live updates: Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial, Cassie Ventura's friend Bryana Bongolan to testify
Live updates: Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial, Cassie Ventura's friend Bryana Bongolan to testify

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Live updates: Sean ‘Diddy' Combs trial, Cassie Ventura's friend Bryana Bongolan to testify

Update: Date: Title: Court is back from lunch Content: Judge Arun Subramanian is on the bench. The jury is entering now. Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey said they intend to call Enrique Santos to the stand before Jane. Update: Date: Title: Judge warns Combs could be excluded from courtroom for repeatedly nodding at jury during Bongolan's testimony Content: Judge Arun Subramanian warned the defense that Sean 'Diddy' Combs could be excluded from the courtroom if he continues to attempt to interact with the jury. The judge said he saw Combs on two different occasions during Bryana Bongolan's testimony, looking at the jury and 'nodding vigorously.' Combs was previously seen nodding during the testimony of George Kaplan, his former assistant. Subramanian said he already warned the defense that Combs can't be making any facial expressions or attempts to have any interaction with or influence the jury. 'I could not have been any clearer in terms of what I said,' the judge said. 'Well, there was a line of questioning when your client was nodding vigorously and looking at the jury,' Subramanian said. During a sidebar, the judge said he saw Combs doing it a second time. 'I looked and I saw your client looking at the jury and nodding vigorously.' 'It is absolutely unacceptable,' Subramanian said. He asked defense attorney Marc Agnifilo, 'Is it going to happen again?' Agnifilo assured him it wouldn't. 'It cannot happen again,' the judge said. And if it does, Subramanian said he'll let the government make an application to give the jury an instruction on the issue and will consider more severe measures, such as excluding Combs from the courtroom. Update: Date: Title: This is what it takes to prove racketeering conspiracy Content: Prosecutors have charged Sean 'Diddy' Combs with racketeering conspiracy and are currently laying out their case on how the music mogul's conduct meets the criteria for the charge. Combs has pleaded not guilty to the racketeering charge as well as sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution. If convicted on all counts, he could face up to life in prison. What is racketeering? Racketeering is 'not a specific crime — it's a way of thinking about and prosecuting a variety of crimes,' attorney G. Robert Blakey told CNN. Racketeering means engaging in an illegal scheme. It's used in the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, known as RICO, to describe 35 offenses, including kidnapping, murder, bribery, arson and extortion. Prosecutors must prove a pattern involving at least two instances of racketeering activity to convict someone under the law. RICO criteria: According to the US Justice Department, to convict someone of racketeering, prosecutors must prove five different criteria: The minimum sentence for racketeering varies by jurisdiction and severity of the crime. Convicted racketeers can also face fines. Prosecutors in Combs' case are using witness testimony, like from Cassie Ventura, Bryana Bongolan and 'Mia,' to prove RICO charges against him. Legal analysts have said witness testimony is key to proving the various aspects of the RICO charge against Combs, including establishing the workings of a criminal enterprise and coercion. Other cases: The federal government has used racketeering to go after a dozen college athletic figures and test administrators in the largest college admissions scandal ever prosecuted, former President Donald Trump and musicians like R. Kelly and Young Thug. Update: Date: Title: The jury is taking a short break. Catch up on what has happened in court so far Content: Bryana Bongolan, a friend of Cassie Ventura's who is testifying under an immunity order, completed her testimony this morning. Enrique Santos is expected to be called to the stand when the jury returns from break. Here's what she testified this morning: Update: Date: Title: "I care about justice," Bongolan says, when questioned on her motives for accusing Combs Content: The defense briefly addressed Bryana Bongolan one more time before her testimony concluded, with attorney Nicole Westmoreland asking if her lawsuit against Combs is Bongolan's 'opportunity to become a millionaire.' 'I can't agree with that,' Bongolan said. Westmoreland pointed out that Bongolan is seeking $10 million in her civil lawsuit and asked if Bongolan cared about becoming a millionaire. 'I care about justice,' Bongolan said. She is now off the stand and court is going to a break. The jury was dismissed until 1:30 p.m. ET. Update: Date: Title: Bongolan testifies she's certain Combs held her on balcony Content: Assistant US Attorney Madison Smyser asked Bryana Bongolan if she had testified truthfully to the best of her recollection about the alleged incident with Sean 'Diddy' Combs on Cassie Ventura's balcony. Bongolan said yes and acknowledged she doesn't remember every single detail, but said she'll never forget some parts of that altercation. Bongolan said she was terrified in that moment and said, 'I will never forget him holding me on that balcony.' Smyser also asked Bongolan, 'Do you yourself know the exact date of when the balcony incident occurred?' 'No,' Bongolan said. 'Why do you not know that exact date?' 'Because it was a while ago,' Bongolan said. In closing the redirect examination, Smyser asked Bongolan, 'Regardless of the exact date, do you have any doubt that Mr Combs held you up on that balcony on the 17th floor?' 'I have no doubt,' Bongolan said. Update: Date: Title: Bongolan says Ventura asked to name her in lawsuit before filing Content: Assistant US Attorney Madison Smyser is beginning redirect. Bryana Bongolan testified that she and Cassie Ventura had only one conversation about Ventura's lawsuit before it was filed in November 2023. Ventura asked Bongolan if she could name her in the complaint in connection with the balcony incident, according to Bongolan. Bongolan said she did not know what information would be included in Ventura's suit. Bongolan said that at some point after Ventura's lawsuit was filed, she told Ventura that some details about the balcony incident were incorrect. Bongolan testified that during that conversation, she told Ventura 'exactly what happened to me.' Update: Date: Title: Defense asks Bongolan directly if she's lying to the jury before wrapping up cross-examination Content: Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland asked Bryana Bongolan to confirm that 'Mr. Combs did not cause you the injuries that you showed us that we saw on your phone with the metadata from September 26, 2016.' 'I can't agree with you,' Bongolan said. In her final question, Westmoreland pressed further, saying: 'You came in here and you lied to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury.' 'I can't agree with you,' Bongolan replied once again. Westmoreland's cross examination is over. Update: Date: Title: Combs' attorney questions Bongolan's timeline of alleged balcony incident Content: Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland suggested the alleged balcony incident couldn't have happened when Bryana Bongolan says it did because Sean 'Diddy' Combs was traveling on the East Coast to perform in the Bad Boy Family Reunion Tour and Cassie Ventura was with him. Combs performed in Newark, New Jersey, on September 25 2016, Westmoreland said, and Combs and Ventura went to an event in New York City on September 26. In her testimony, Bongolan linked the alleged balcony altercation to a photo of a bruise on her leg that she said was taken hours after the incident. According to metadata from Bongolan's phone, the photo was taken on the morning of September 26. Westmoreland also showed the jury records for 'Frank Black' from the Trump International Hotel in New York City, which included dining receipts for September 25 and 26, 2016. Records from the Trump Hotel stay showed the check-in date was September 24, 2016, and the check-out date was September 29, 2016. 'You agree that one person can't be in two places at the same time,' Westmoreland asked. Bongolan responded, 'In theory, yeah,' and 'I can't answer that one.' Update: Date: Title: Combs messaged Bongolan about friends stopping each other from making mistakes while high Content: Sean 'Diddy' Combs sent Bryana Bongolan a message saying that friends should try to stop each other from making mistakes when they get high together. 'If you're gonna do k with her at least have her back,' Combs wrote, according to the message read aloud in court. Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland asked Bongolan if she believed Combs wanted her to stop using so many drugs with Cassie Ventura. 'I can't speak for him,' Bongolan said. Update: Date: Title: Defense questions why Bongolan maintained contact with Ventura and Combs after alleged attack Content: The defense is pressing Bryana Bongolan over her continued friendship with Cassie Ventura and proximity to Sean 'Diddy' Combs in the time after he allegedly held her over a 17-story balcony in 2016. Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland pointed out that in the weeks following the alleged attack, Bongolan texted Ventura offering to get Combs a hoodie. 'We were trying to be cool,' Bongolan said. According to text messages from October 9, 2016, between Ventura and Bongolan, she also agreed to sleep over at Ventura's apartment about two weeks after the balcony incident took place, according to her testimony. 'Isn't it true that you continued to hang out with Mr. Combs and you continued to spend the night at Ms. Ventura's house because Mr. Combs did not cause you those injuries?' Westmoreland asked Bongolan. 'Part of that statement is correct and part of that statement I can't agree with,' Bongolan replied. Update: Date: Title: Bongolan says she kept her distance from Combs after alleged incident Content: Bryana Bongolan testified that she continued to see Sean 'Diddy' Combs occasionally after the balcony incident in late September 2016. Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland asked if she was afraid to be around Combs. 'I kept my distance,' Bongolan said. Bongolan confirmed that she went to one of Combs' concerts on October 4, 2016. 'I don't think I was around him most of the time,' she said. She also confirmed that she went to a club that Combs rented out the following day, on October 5. Westmoreland asked if she wore her neck brace to the private party. 'I probably should have but didn't,' Bongolan said. Update: Date: Title: Defense presses Bongolan on whether Cassie Ventura saw balcony incident Content: Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland asked Bryana Bongolan if her longtime friend Cassie Ventura witnessed the moment Sean 'Diddy' Combs allegedly dangled her over a balcony, which has been central to Bongolan's testimony in Combs' federal criminal trial. Bongolan said she heard Ventura's voice during the incident, but said she couldn't speak for her. Westmoreland suggested Bongolan had told prosecutors several times that Ventura saw the incident. 'I spoke to them, but again, I don't recall,' Bongolan said. Update: Date: Title: Bongolan shown texts with drug photos she sent Ventura after alleged threat from Combs Content: Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland showed Bryana Bongolan texts with photos of drugs that Bongolan sent to Cassie Ventura in the month after she alleges Sean 'Diddy' Combs threatened her at a photoshoot in April 2016. Bongolan testified that the images she sent Ventura appear to be drugs, but said she isn't sure what type. Bongolan confirmed that she and Ventura continued their friendship as usual at the time, despite the alleged threats from Combs. Update: Date: Title: Bongolan is back on the stand Content: Bryana Bongolan, a longtime friend of Cassie Ventura, is on the stand. The jury is entering now. Defense attorney Nicole Westmoreland is continuing cross-examination. Update: Date: Title: Judge questions relevance of Bongolan's alleged balcony incident in Combs case Content: Judge Arun Subramanian asked the prosecution why Bryana Bongolan's alleged balcony incident is relevant to the charges against Sean 'Diddy' Combs in the indictment. Assistant US Attorney Christy Slavik said the incident with Bongolan in Cassie Ventura's apartment shows the jury how Combs' violence extended beyond Ventura to other people close to her, which helps prove Combs' alleged coercion of Ventura. Bongolan's testimony will continue shortly. Update: Date: Title: Combs accuser expected to read text messages aloud in court during her closely watched testimony Content: Jane, one of Sean 'Diddy' Combs' accusers who is testifying under a pseudonym, will read text message conversations aloud in the courtroom when she takes the stand, prosecutors said this morning. The discussion arose as a group of media outlets argued for access to the exhibits admitted into evidence during Jane's testimony. As of now, the judge has said no exhibits will be shown to the public in the courtroom and the prosecution will eventually release the exhibits to the press. While Judge Arun Subramanian denied the media application, Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey said she'll have Jane read text messages aloud, so they'll be heard in open court and captured on the record in the daily transcript. When to expect Jane on the stand: The defense's cross-examination of Bryana Bongolan, a longtime friend of Cassie Ventura, is expected to continue this morning. Prosecutors have said they'll call Enrique Santos next. His time on the stand is expected to be short, and afterward, Jane's closely watched testimony is expected to begin. Update: Date: Title: Balcony incident testimony shows "mob-like behavior" prosecutors need to prove case, legal expert says Content: A woman's testimony that Sean 'Diddy' Combs' dangled her over a 17-story balcony demonstrated the 'mob-like behavior' that prosecutors need to prove racketeering conspiracy, former federal prosecutor Alyse Adamson said today. Bryana Bongolan testified yesterday that Combs held her over a balcony and threw her onto balcony furniture in September 2016. The incident was previously mentioned in a civil suit filed by Bongolan against Combs in November 2024. 'I think it's extremely impactful, if the jury ultimately believes it,' Adamson said on 'CNN This Morning with Audie Cornish.' 'That's mob-like behavior,' Adamson said. 'And that's what prosecutors need' to prove the racketeering conspiracy aspect of the case. 'He needs to be behaving in a pattern of abuse, threats, and violence. That's the theme.' Adamson said it was notable that Bongolan was not an intimate partner of Combs. 'I think the prosecution scored points eliciting this testimony, but now we're going to see how she holds up on cross,' Adamson said. Bongolan is set to return to the stand for more cross-examination at 11 a.m. today. Combs has pleaded not guilty to charges that include racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking. If convicted on all counts, he could face up to life in prison. Adamson noted 'it only takes one juror' for there to be a hung jury. 'The defense seems to be extremely strategic in how they are doing things,' Adamson said. 'Sometimes the strategy isn't always, 'Well, let's just get a straight acquittal.' … Sometimes we need to be more surgical, more strategic' and focus on jurors who are 'feeling our narrative.' Update: Date: Title: This is a recap of what happened in court yesterday Content: A forensic video expert and a woman who said Sean 'Diddy' Combs dangled her over a balcony took the stand yesterday in the hip-hop mogul's federal criminal trial. Here's what we learned in testimony Wednesday: Hotel surveillance video was not manually altered, expert says Woman says Combs held her over a balcony Bongolan talks threats and drug use Update: Date: Title: Here's who has taken the stand so far in the Combs' trial Content: Bryana Bongolan, a longterm friend of Cassie Ventura, and a forensic audio and video editor took the stand yesterday in the criminal trial of Sean 'Diddy' Combs. Bongolan is expected to testify again this morning. Here's a look at who else has taken the stand:

Kevin Smith Is Very Excited About His Idea for ‘Dogma 2'
Kevin Smith Is Very Excited About His Idea for ‘Dogma 2'

Gizmodo

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  • Gizmodo

Kevin Smith Is Very Excited About His Idea for ‘Dogma 2'

The 'Clerks,' 'Mallrats,' and 'Red State' director has cracked the idea for the long-awaited sequel. If it feels like you've been hearing about Kevin Smith's Dogma a lot in recent weeks, that's by design. Though the film's 25th anniversary was last year, writer and director Kevin Smith took his time with it, prepping a massive national tour of the film that's been happening for a few months now. It's also being re-released into select theaters starting today. The jewel of that celebration, though, was a screening at the Cannes Film Festival last month and there, Smith spoke about how he's finally got an idea to go back to the world of Mooby's and the Buddy Christ for Dogma 2. 'I cracked the story,' Smith told Deadline. 'I absolutely love it. I feel like when people see it, they'll be like, 'Oh, I get it,' like 'that makes sense' kind of thing. Hopefully they'll be like, 'that's clever' and not be like, 'Well shit, I would have done that.'' Smith, of course, didn't say what his idea was, but did hint that it has a place in it for everyone in the original movie. That, presumably, includes stars Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Linda Fiorentino, Chris Rock, Jason Lee, and others. 'I will set a place at the table for everyone who was in the first movie who is still alive,' Smith said. 'Sadly, Alan [Rickman] and George [Carlin] won't be able to join us, but I'll set a place at the table for all of them. If they want to come back, they'll have a role to play, but if not, no harm, no foul. The story I'm telling can definitely make use of everybody who is in Dogma, but I can also tell it without. So, that makes me pretty excited to go forward. It's its own unique tale.' Though Smith's career has shifted in recent years, with a focus on smaller, weirder movies like Tusk, Yoga Hosers, and The 4:30 Movie, he knows that if he does decide to make a Dogma sequel, he can't do so lightly. 'It's like one of the last fucking movies I ever made that's beloved across the boards and shit like that,' he said. 'I would never step up to the plate unless I was like, 'Oh, this will fucking work nicely as a companion piece.' So, I feel pretty great about it, man. But of course during the whimsy stage one always feels great about it. It's when you make it and everyone sees it and they're like, 'Well, that fucking sucks. You should have left well enough alone.' You just hope it doesn't come to that.' Finally, Smith's ultimate ambition with Dogma 2 would be to debut it at Cannes, where he debuted the original in 1999 and where he screened it again in 2025 to a very enthusiastic crowd. ''Why is it that you assume that the Cannes-worthy portion of your life is over?'' Smith asked himself. ''You never even expected it to begin in the first place. It was never part of the aim. It just came along with the journey. Maybe if you really try, you could.' So, it was the 78th edition this year and so I was like, 'You know what? I wanna come back on the 80th, or the 81st at the latest with the Dogma sequel, like that's a Cannes-worthy movie.' And so, I said that on stage when I was intro-ing and everybody applauded, and [festival director] Thierry Frémaux was on stage with me, and he adds, 'If it is good,' and I was like, 'Fair enough, if it's good, yes.'' Can Smith turn that idea into a script and get it funded? He's done it in recent years with Jay and Silent Bob as well as Clerks. So, as the stars of Dogma might say, you've just got to have faith. Head over to Deadline to read much, much more from Smith about Dogma, Cannes, and more. And check out Dogma in theaters now.

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