
David Suchet: ‘I wasn't easy to work with. I refused to make Poirot funny'
Sir David Suchet is seated at a table in an office space in Bloomsbury wearing a white shirt and brown trousers, a brown jacket neatly hanging on the back of a nearby chair. He looks nothing like Poirot: his head is much less egg-shaped than it appears when perched above Poirot's immaculate cravat, and anyway, it's the lofty tilt of the chin, the aristocratic air and that absurd moustache that brought his little Belgian detective to life.
Yet Suchet is only ever a hair's breadth away from stepping into the character he immortalised on screen in ITV's Agatha Christie's Poirot, a role that made him so famous he says not a day passes without someone coming up to him in the street. 'You get to know a character very intimately when you play him for a quarter of a century,' he says, with that instantly recognisable voice. 'I could spend the whole of today looking through the world through his eyes if I wanted to.'
Suchet, 79, can no more throw off Poirot than the sniffily, pernickety, peacocking Poirot can affect humility. We have met because he is presenting a new five-part TV series, Travels with Agatha Christie and Sir David Suchet, in which he retraces Christie's footsteps along the 11 month Grand Tour she undertook in 1922 with her businessman husband Archie as part of a trade mission to promote the 1924 British Empire exhibition.
As part of the delegation, the couple visited South Africa, Australasia and Canada, stopping off in Hawaii for a spot of surfing, while in New Zealand Christie took herself off to visit the geysers in Rotura. 'Alone! In a dress!' exclaims Suchet. 'Women didn't do that sort of thing back then. She may have been a wife in tow but she was also a very independent spirit.'
Yet Christie also took along her typewriter and Suchet is convinced that the trip was the making of her as a novelist. 'She had only written [her 1920 debut novel] The Mysterious Affair at Styles after her sister dared her to write a detective story because Agatha knew so much about medicines and poisons [Christie had worked as a Red Cross nurse in Torquay during the war]. But in South Africa she wrote The Man in the Brown Suit.' (This isn't a Poirot novel, but since Suchet dons a brown suit when visiting Cape Town, he has gamely turned up in it for our photo shoot).
'And then in Canada, she wrote her second Poirot, Murder on the Links. It was then, I think, that she decided she was going to become a writer. So it was a lovely journey for me with her.'
Lovely is a word Suchet uses a lot. Throughout Travels with Agatha Christie, he is charming to a fault, forever beaming pleases and thank yous at the many archivists and hotel owners and anti-colonialist protestors he meets along the way. Naturally the series can't avoid the historical controversies of Britain's imperial rule and Suchet comes across as a sympathetic listener, empathising with Rhodes Must Fall activists at the frankly enormous Rhodes memorial overlooking Cape Town – the memorial has frequently been the target of vandalism - and raising an eyebrow on hearing that Christie happily bought a diamond encrusted brooch at the De Beers diamond mine, founded by Rhodes in 1888 and for decades savagely run on slave labour.
'She clearly didn't have much of a conscience about that, otherwise she wouldn't have bought it. Obviously empire is a contentious word. But look, we've got to be careful that we don't judge the past by the present attitudes. Life back then would have been very different.'
Indeed. As Suchet recreates Christie's journey through Britain's pre-war imperial outposts, the programme throws up all sorts of meaty questions on the subject of 'life back then' and, by implication, the unapologetically white upper-class milieu of Christie's novels. How does Suchet think we should judge Christie's colonial world view today? 'Well, the title of Agatha Christie's Ten Little N-----s was changed to And Then There Were None [in 1985, nine years after Christie's death in 1976],' he says.
'When I was growing up, I remember a shoe shop that had n----- brown suede right in the window. I didn't think anything of it at the age of 12. But social conscience made a change, and quite right too. But Christie was also progressive. Don't forget Poirot is not a great fan of inherited wealth and the aristocracy. He much preferred talking to those below stairs. He saw the British establishment very clearly. And that's pure Christie.'
He's not a fan of modernising for the sake of it. The 2023 BBC adaptation of Christie's 1939 standalone novel Murder is Easy was widely criticised for recasting the retired British policeman at its centre as Nigerian and for weaving an 'allegory of colonialism' into the plot. 'I think you've got to be very careful what you do when you try and put things right,' says Suchet. 'Because you end up being criticised for being too woke. But what is woke? We've all lost sight of what that is. You look at Roald Dahl, and how they're changing his works. But I don't know what real benefit that causes.'
There's a slightly squirmy moment in Travels with Agatha Christie when Suchet thanks three South African protestors for teaching him about Rhodes, who is now widely regarded as a leading architect of apartheid. What, then, is his view of that movement, which began at the University of Cape Town in 2015 and which has since spread to Oriel College, Oxford where Rhodes established the Rhodes Scholarships, still awarded to 100 international students each year, and where a statue of Rhodes has become the subject of much attack and controversy?
'I cannot but admit to being sympathetic. But I have a feeling it may be more destructive than anything else, because I understand that the money Rhodes gave to fund certain courses [at Oxford] has been taken away.' (In fact donors had threatened to remove millions of pounds in funding if the statue was taken down; the statue remains.)
'I don't know who decides to change the name of a university or who decides to change or pull down a statue in a particular place,' he adds. 'I don't know what it achieves. There are positive ways of bringing people back together as is happening in parts of South Africa, but cutting the nose off statues [as happened to the Rhodes memorial in 2015] feels destructive.'
He has similar mixed feelings about Just Stop Oil protestors. 'I can empathise with the lovely people who sit on the road because of oil, but what would you feel, driving a car and seeing the chaos it's causing? And does that promote goodwill, or does it promote bad and does it further the cause, or does it negate the cause?'
Suchet is articulate and sensible and balanced but also anxious not to put his head too far above the parapet. 'I'm in the entertainment industry. I'm not here to be didactic. I don't want to stand up and give great big political opinions.' But I wonder if his thoughtfully even approach is also because beneath the effusive friendliness he is a very guarded man.
He is married to Sheila Ferris, a former actress whom he met at the Belgrade Coventry in 1972 and with whom he has two adult children, Robert, a former Royal Marine Captain turned personal trainer, and Katherine, a physiotherapist. The couple first lived on a narrow boat (Suchet still has one at his rented home in Wiltshire) but getting much out of him on his private life, beyond him saying he and his wife will celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary next year 'most likely with family', is as hard as persuading the dirt-allergic Poirot to take a long walk in the countryside. All he will say is that he and Sheila live in west London but rent in Wiltshire. They have chosen to live close to their grandson who has incurable tuberous sclerosis, although he has politely requested no questions on this.
Suchet was born in 1946 and grew up in west London. His mother was a former chorus girl and his father an eminent gynaecologist who emigrated from South Africa in 1932. His older brother John is the former ITN news anchor, while his younger brother Peter had a successful career in advertising. I ask if there was ever any rivalry between the brothers growing up but Suchet isn't playing ball.
'None at all. But then we were all sent to different schools, so we only saw each other in the holidays.' Suchet himself was sent to board at Wellington School in Somerset at the age of eight and hated it. 'It was really tough. I can't blame my parents, there was rationing at the time and they were doing their best for us, but it didn't suit me.'
He found salvation in sport. 'I excelled at tennis and football and rugby, activities that I found I could express myself in. I was even in the Junior Wimbledon at Queens, so I got respect that way. But I was a terrible scholar.' It was only when a teacher praised his Macbeth during a school production that he considered becoming an actor. 'Suddenly I had found something in which I could release myself,' he says. He left school at the age of 16 to join the National Youth Theatre and two years after that applied to study acting at LAMDA. In 1973 he joined the RSC.
But his father never approved of his career. 'I desperately wanted to be a surgeon but my father never encouraged me. To this day I have no idea why. It made me sad, as the son of a doctor. But I suspect he was also perfectly knowledgeable about my own intellect. I never had mathematics or science. I couldn't have done it.'
Yet his father didn't support his acting either. 'Not at all. Because he didn't take the theatre seriously. He thought we were just playing at life and death. He said he had real life and death in operating theatres. I said to him once, as a joke, to make light of his attitude, 'but dad, we both work in the theatre!'. He didn't respond to that very well. But yes, I felt I could never please him. I could never come up to the standards he had for me.'
He credits his mother Joan with encouraging him onto the stage. Suchet describes her as a 'hoofer' who had performed with the popular musical comedy actress Evelyn Laye in the West End musical Lilac Time, and had even auditioned for Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor's Antony and Cleopatra. 'She didn't get it and she was terribly upset. Her career fizzled out after that. But I don't think I would have had the confidence to carry on as an actor because of dad without her encouragement.'
He tells a funny story about the time his mother attended his final showcase performance at LAMDA. 'I had to come on in complete blackout and shout in character 'mother mother'. But when I did, my own mother, who was sitting in the front row, said, 'yes David?' All the lights came on – this is in front of agents, the entire school, it was the big passing out, and we had to do Act Two all over again.'
It didn't exactly dent his career. At the RSC he established himself as one of the great Shakespearean actors of his generation, playing Shylock, Caliban, Orlando and in Othello, Iago, opposite Ben Kingsley. The RSC's former artistic director Adrian Noble once compared him to Olivier at his greatest. His career in the West End has been similarly tremendous, containing all the big roles – George in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, Salieri in Amadeus, Arthur Miller, Oscar Wilde, Eugene O'Neil. But he puts the fact he was able to play many of these parts at all down to Poirot.
'Poirot raised my profile much higher than it had been after Blott On The Landscape [the BBC Tom Sharpe adaptation in which Suchet had starred in 1985]. Suddenly theatre producers were offering me these wonderful stonking theatre roles because they could be assured of bums on seats.' He tends to gravitate towards outsiders, or perhaps it's that he understands that the most complicated characters are always on the margins.
'I've always felt a bit of an outsider myself, which has always been very useful because it helps you find the passion in such characters. I'm not very good at the big razzmatazz great parties. I've always taken my work too seriously.'
His mother was of Russian-Jewish descent (his father was also Jewish) but in 1982 Suchet converted to Christianity. In 2014 he released an audio recording of the Bible and during Covid a recording of St John's Gospel – he once compared the latter with Bach. He mourns the diminished role of Christianity today in public life. 'We live in a time where it's totally secular, which I can't help but feel sorry about.'
He embarks on a complicated metaphor. 'As humans we have three legs: our mind, our body and our soul. We go to the gym for our body, and we educate our minds. But what feeds the third leg? Now that religion has been marginalised, that leg is short. So we're sitting on a lopsided stool. Somehow we have to find a way to become content again with mystery.' What are his thoughts on the Church of England following the resignation of Justin Welby over a damning report into the prolific sex abuser John Smyth? 'I'm interested to see how it can right itself. Yes, I'm concerned, the same as anybody. But I don't know the answer.'
He's often seeking answers. In 2018 he made a podcast, Questions of Faith, in which he sought to understand the religious passions behind ideological extremism. In a 2021 interview with the Church Times he admitted he had been struck by the depth of feeling that can motivate acts of terrorism. 'When you meet people who have this zealotry about them: yes, it leads to terrible things – I'm not sympathising in any way with terrorism: I'm actually condemning it – but they have a fire,' he said.
He is quick today to unequivocally condemn. 'I'm more convinced than ever that any form of extremism that leads to destructive and terrible behaviour is evil. I don't believe in extremists or extreme points of view that lead to that sort of action. It just scares me so much that the name of God or religion [is being used] to do such horrific things. But the situation in Gaza is not about faith any more. It's about politics.'
Suchet is a profoundly moral man. You suspect this is partly what drew him to the 'bon Catholique' Poirot, who famously reads the rosary each night with a cup of hot chocolate. But he also shares Poirot's fastidiousness. He was initially wary about accepting the role, with even his brother John telling him Poirot was 'a bit of a joke, a buffoon. It's not you at all'. But John had missed the point: from the beginning Suchet was determined to portray Poirot with precisely the same seriousness with which Christie had conceived him.
'We did have the odd director who wanted to make him funny, who wanted to make him a figure of fun. It became quite challenging and I wasn't easy to work with because of it. I apologise now to all the people who found me difficult because I dug my heels in and only did what Agatha wanted him to do.'
At its peak, Poirot was an international sensation, shown in 70 territories with an audience of 750 million. Poor Miss Marple on the BBC couldn't compete. 'I don't think that show had the same global reach,' says Suchet diplomatically. Why does he think the British in particular took this preposterous, puffed up eccentric so dearly to their hearts? 'Because he is an outsider too. He's not an insider like Jane Marple. And yet he wanted to look like a Harley Street surgeon. It's the classic assimilation story. But there is also sadness there. Christie has him say 'The greatest gift that God gives to human beings is the love between a man and a woman and marriage is the most sacred of all'. And yet Poirot is a bachelor.' Goodness: is he suggesting that Poirot is gay? 'No, that was never my suggestion. He is an old-fashioned bachelor. And that's a very difficult word today. He much prefers to be on his own. He knows that nobody could live with him.'
What, I wonder, would Poirot think of modern day detectives with their shambolic personal lives and creeping alcoholism? 'I think he would just feel sorry for them in the way they live. Poirot is almost clinically OCD.'
Suchet is entirely at ease with being identified with his most popular role, rather than with his most critically acclaimed. He is a rare mix of luvvie gravitas and personable humility. After an hour in his company I've decided he is quite the nicest man. 'Look, I've played more criminals in my life than I have nice people. I've played terrorists in big movies, I've played murderers. I've played one of the greatest mass murderers in Shakespeare, Iago. But if Poirot is cosy crime then I'm thrilled to be called cosy.'
He hints that another big populist TV show might be coming his way although he remains coy on the details. But he implies he is done with the big roles on stage. He's done with the big roles on stage. 'I don't want to deal in shock,and the horror of aggression anymore. I've been offered King Lear several times but I just don't have the energy to play eight shows a week. I'm no Ian McKellen. I'm proud most of all to be known for family entertainment. After all, I'm just a jobbing actor.'
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