Monash IVF reveals second embryo mix-up after admitting to major accident just months earlier
Monash IVF has mistakenly transferred the wrong embryo into a patient in the second major incident for the company in about two months.
On June 5 the Clayton fertility clinic, in Melbourne's south-east, accidentally put a patient's own embryo into a patient rather than an embryo from their partner as planned.
"Monash IVF has extended its sincere apologies to the affected couple, and we continue to support them," the company said in a statement on the ASX on Tuesday.
The company said it is conducting an internal investigation into the incident as it comes just months after it admitted one of its patients had given birth to a stranger's child in a shocking embryo mix-up that made headlines across the country.
"Commencing immediately, Monash IVF will implement interim additional verification processes and patient confirmation safeguards over and above normal practice and electronic witness systems, to ensure patients and clinicians have every confidence in its processes," Monash IVF said.
"Whilst industry leading electronic witness systems have and are being rolled out across Monash IVF, there remains instances and circumstances whereby manual witnessing is required.
"Monash IVF has disclosed the incident to the relevant assisted reproductive technology (ART) regulators, namely the Reproductive Technology Accreditation Committee certifying body and Victorian Health Regulator."
The company's share price has sunk more than 21 per cent, down to 59 cents, on Tuesday morning after revealing the news.
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‘Completely unacceptable': Minister lashes Monash IVF after second embryo transfer bungle
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ABC News
9 hours ago
- ABC News
Second IVF bungle admitted by major Australian clinic
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ABC News
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- ABC News
Monash IVF admits second embryo bungle
Samantha Donovan: Hello, welcome to PM. I'm Samantha Donovan, coming to you from the lands of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation in Melbourne. Tonight, an IVF clinic admits another bungle, transferring the wrong embryo to a patient. Also accused triple murderer Erin Patterson rejects testimony from several witnesses at her trial, and older men learning to cook for the first time in their lives. John Seymour: I think a lot of men, including me, have realised that the time has come to do more around the house. Meals just don't magically arrive on the table. You have to learn. Samantha Donovan: First this evening, a major Australian in vitro fertilisation clinic has admitted once again to mistakenly transferring the wrong embryo to a patient. It's the second time in three months that Monash IVF has admitted to making an error. In the earlier incident, a Queensland woman unknowingly gave birth to somebody else's baby. 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Crown Prosecutor Dr Nanette Rogers asked Ms Patterson, do you say that Ian Wilkinson has given incorrect evidence in relation to the plates? And she responded, yes, I do. Crown Prosecutor Dr Nanette Rogers then told Ms Patterson, I suggest that after you had plated the food, you carried the smaller plate over to the dining table for yourself and after you knowingly served death cat mushrooms to four of your lunch guests, to avoid any error of accidentally consuming a poisoned beef wellington, you took the extra precaution of using a smaller, different coloured plate for yourself. Ms Patterson disagreed with that. She says she wouldn't have had enough matching plates for each person at the lunch and denies that she even had a smaller plate than the rest of her guests. Erin Patterson also disputed evidence from medical professionals claiming that she was never told some things. They allege that they told Ms Patterson particularly about the health risk to her children. Samantha Donovan: And the prosecution alleges Ms Patterson lied to medical professionals about how much of the beef wellington lunch she'd eaten. What she told the court today. Kathleen O'Connor: We heard a lot about this today. Dr Nanette Rogers accused Ms Patterson of serving herself a non-poisonous beef wellington and lied to medical professionals about only eating a small amount in her meal in an effort to explain to authorities why her symptoms were not as serious as the symptoms for the four of the other lunch guests. Ms Patterson denied those claims. The prosecution questioned Ms Patterson for most of the day about the various testimonies from medical professionals. We've heard from over the course of the trial about when the accused first presented to hospital. Ms Patterson told the court she remembers telling nurses and doctors that she only ate around a quarter or a third of the meal, not half. Which is what a number of medical professionals say Ms Patterson told them at the time. Ms Patterson also told the court that she can't be sure of how much she ate. She didn't measure it because she didn't have a measuring tape, but says it wasn't half. Ms Patterson also told the court that she wasn't told that her life was at risk by medical professionals after they learnt that she'd eaten the beef wellington meal when she first appeared at hospital the day after the lunch. And she also says that she never refused medical treatment. Ms Patterson will return to the Witness Box again on Wednesday, Sam. Samantha Donovan: That's our reporter Kathleen O'Connor at the Patterson murder trial in Morwell in eastern Victoria. To Los Angeles now where 2,000 extra National Guardsmen are being sent in by the President Donald Trump to quell the protests against his immigration policies. There are standoffs between troops and protesters in several parts of the city. 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The world's two biggest economies, the US and China, are again holding talks in an attempt to end the bitter trade war that threatens to derail the global economy. The American president, Donald Trump, launched heavy tariffs on Chinese imports after returning to the White House earlier this year. And China, of course, responded with its own tariffs on US imports. Our business correspondent David Taylor has this report on how the talks are going. David Taylor: Officials from China and the US have been sitting at the same table, figuring out how to co-exist in a highly competitive global economy. FNArena financial commentator Danielle Ecuyer. Danielle Ecuyer: Well, that's really interesting because we have some rather big trade talks going on at the moment in London. David Taylor: Talks at Lancaster House, a UK government mansion, were held yesterday and are set to resume Tuesday morning local time. 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Angus Randall: John Seymour can now whip up a Moroccan chicken dish and he's keen to learn more. John Seymour: The recipes have three hats, one hat, two hats and three, and I'm still at the one hat stage. Samantha Donovan: That's Canberra man John Seymour ending that report from Angus Randall and Sarah Grieb. Thanks for joining me for PM. I'm Samantha Donovan. The podcast of the full program is available on the ABC Listen app and that's where you'll find ABC News Daily with Sam Hawley each weekday morning too. Today's episode, more on the relationship between the American president, Donald Trump, and the billionaire Elon Musk. Can they reconcile? We'll be back at the same time tomorrow. Good night.
