
Seymour defends posts accusing opponents of 'derangement syndrome'
The Deputy Prime Minister is rubbishing claims that social media posts he has made about opponents of the Regulatory Standards Bill are a breach of the Cabinet Manual.
In recent days, David Seymour made a series of social media posts singling out prominent opponents of the Bill, and accusing them of suffering from "Regulatory Standards Derangement Syndrome".
Wellington's mayor, Tory Whanau, accused Seymour of setting a "dangerous precedent" for how dissenting voices were treated, and laid a formal complaint with the Prime Minister over the posts.
The Regulatory Standards Bill aimed to ensure regulatory decisions were "based on principles of good law-making and economic efficiency", according to Seymour, who had introduced the Bill as Minister of Regulation.
Opponents criticised it as advancing corporate interests and an attack on nature and Te Tiriti.
ADVERTISEMENT
Seymour's targets included academics such as Dame Anne Salmond, Dr George Laking, and Metiria Turei, as well as Labour MP Willie Jackson.
Dame Anne Salmond was referred to as the "victim of the day" by Seymour. (Source: rnz.co.nz)
Newsroom published an opinion column by Dame Anne, in which she called the bill a "dangerous piece of legislation" and said its principles were "largely inspired by libertarian ideals".
In the posts, Seymour called the figures the "Victim of the Day" and set out why he believed their arguments against the Bill were wrong.
In Dame Anne's case, Seymour said her "real objection seems to be that the Bill sets limits on arbitrary power".
"That it dares to elevate individual rights, due process, and cost-benefit analysis over ideology. That's not a weakness, it's the point."
He said Turei was "spinning conspiracies" and that Jackson had a "wild imagination".
ADVERTISEMENT
The posts prompted Whanau to write to the Prime Minister, accusing Seymour of orchestrating a "campaign of online harassment and intimidation."
Whanau's letter said the posts were a "blatant attempt to stifle academic opinion and any dissenting opinion", and a breach of Sections 2.53 and 2.56 of the Cabinet Manual.
Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau. (Source: 1News)
Section 2.53 called on ministers to "conduct themselves in a manner appropriate to the office", while Section 2.56 said ministers were expected to behave in a way that upheld the highest ethical and behavioural standards.
"This includes exercising a professional approach and good judgement in their interactions with the public, staff, and officials, and in all their communications, personal and professional," it says.
Whanau, who at this stage has not been the subject of one of Seymour's posts, called on Christopher Luxon to investigate the matter.
"For the Deputy Prime Minister to lead this online harassment campaign is quite concerning, as such actions could incite behaviour that spills into real-world violence.
ADVERTISEMENT
"This is irresponsible and a clear breach of public trust. We expect our leaders to keep us safe, not throw us into harm's way," she wrote.
On Monday, standing in for Luxon at the post-Cabinet press conference, Seymour dismissed the criticism and accused the opponents of the bill of making incorrect statements.
"There's no such breach. If people want to go out and make completely incorrect statements, then I'm going to get a bit playful and have some fun with them."
He argued that pointing out there was a "curious syndrome that is causing people to say untrue things" was different to outright calling them deranged.
"I could say that their incorrect statements are deliberate, and therefore they're lying. I could say they're incapable of understanding what they're saying.
"I'm not saying that, I'm being a bit playful saying the only reason I can think of for all these totally factually incorrect statements about the Regulatory Standards Bill is that there's some sort of sinister syndrome out there."
Labour leader Chris Hipkins said Seymour's behaviour was "inconsistent" with what was expected of MPs, particularly Ministers of the Crown.
ADVERTISEMENT
Labour leader Chris Hipkins. (Source: rnz.co.nz)
"When you're putting photos of people up with the derogatory sorts of claims that David Seymour is, that is online harassment and I don't think it's acceptable," he said.
Hipkins said singling out members of the public was different to the cut and thrust of political debate between politicians.
"Attacking other politicians is one thing. Attacking members of the public is something entirely different."
In a follow-up column, also on Newsroom, Dame Anne said Seymour's campaign was "lame, even laughable" but also an abuse of high office, and she would formally lodge a complaint with the Cabinet Office.
The Regulatory Standards Bill passed its first reading in May.
Submissions on the Bill closed on Monday.
ADVERTISEMENT
The Finance and Expenditure Committee will consider the submissions, with its final report due by November 22nd.
Labour has pledged to repeal the Regulatory Standards Bill in its first 100 days in office, should it return to government next year.
rnz.co.nz
Hashtags

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles

RNZ News
2 hours ago
- RNZ News
Playful or harmful? David Seymour's posts raise questions about what's OK to say online
By Kevin Veale* of David Seymour's claim he was being "playful" while using his platform to criticise individuals follows a pattern of targeting critics while deflecting criticism of his own behaviour. Photo: RNZ / Mark Papalii Deputy Prime Minister and ACT Party leader David Seymour says he is being "playful" and having "fun" with his "Victim of the Day" social media posts, targeting opponents of his Regulatory Standards Bill . But the posts - which have singled out academics and MPs who have criticised or made select committee submissions against the bill, accusing them of suffering from "Regulatory Standards Derangement Syndrome" - have now led to at least two official complaints to Cabinet. Wellington City mayor Tory Whanau has alleged they amounted to "online harassment and intimidation" against academics and were in breach of the Cabinet Manual rules for ministers. According to the manual, ministers should "behave in a way that upholds, and is seen to uphold, the highest ethical and behavioural standards. This includes exercising a professional approach and good judgement in their interactions with the public, staff, and officials, and in all their communications, personal and professional". Academic Anne Salmond, one of those targeted by the posts, has also alleged Seymour breached the behaviour standards set out by the manual. According to Salmond: "This "Victim of the Day" campaign does not match this description. It is unethical, unprofessional and potentially dangerous to those targeted. Debate is fine, online incitements are not". Dame Anne Salmond says the posts are unethical, unprofessional and potentially dangerous to those targeted. Photo: Claire Concannon / RNZ Seymour's claim he was being "playful" while using his platform to criticise individuals follows a pattern of targeting critics while deflecting criticism of his own behaviour. For example, in 2022 Seymour demanded an apology from Māori Party co-leader Rawiri Waititi, after Waititi earlier joked about poisoning Seymour with karaka berries. At the time, Seymour said: "I'm genuinely concerned that the next step is that some slightly more radical person doesn't think it's a joke." But the same year, Seymour defended Tauranga by-election candidate Cameron Luxton's joke that the city's commission chair Anne Tolley was like Marie Antoinette and should be beheaded. In 2023, Seymour joked about abolishing the Ministry of Pacific Peoples: "In my fantasy, we'd send a guy called Guy Fawkes in there and it'd be all over, but we'll probably have to have a more formal approach than that." Māori researcher and advocate Tina Ngata criticised Seymour's argument that he was joking: "Calling it a joke does not make it any less white-supremacist. What it does is point to the fact that in David Seymour's mind, violence against Pacific peoples is so normalised, that he can make a joke out of it but he's not any person is he? He is a politician, a leader of a political party, with a significant platform and the means and opportunities to advance that normalised violence into policy and legislation." An analysis of Seymour's recent social media posts by researcher Sanjana Hattotuwa at the Disinformation Project has argued they have the potential to lead to online harassment, saying they are: "designed to silence opposition to the controversial Regulatory Standards Bill whilst maintaining plausible deniability about the resulting harassment, harms and hate. The "Victims of the Day" posts about Anne Salmond and former Green leader Metiria Turei were textbook examples of "technology-facilitated gender-based violence and online misogyny", Hattotuwa argued. And the use of the term "derangement" framed academic criticism as a mental disorder - undermining expertise. As my own research shows, online harassment and violent rhetoric can raise the chances of real-world violence. Since the early 2000s, researchers have used the term "stochastic terrorism" to describe a way of indirectly threatening people. Nobody is specifically told "harm these people", so the person putting them at risk has plausible deniability. Seymour is already aware of these dynamics, as shown by his demand for an apology from Waititi over the karaka berry poisoning "joke". Tusiata Avia Photo: The Arts Foundation Te Tumu Toi Seymour and ACT have long presented themselves as champions of free speech: "Freedom of expression is one of the most important values our society has. We can only solve our most pressing problems in an open society in which free thought and open enquiry are encouraged." By going after critics of the Regulatory Standards Bill, Seymour may only be ridiculing speech he does not like. But he has taken things further in the past. In 2023, he criticised poet Tusiata Avia for her poem Savage Coloniser Pantoum , which Seymour said was racist and would incite racially motivated violence. He made demands that the government withdraw NZ$107,280 in taxpayer money from the 2023 Auckland Arts Festival in response. ACT list MP Todd Stephenson also threatened to remove Creative NZ funding after Avia received a Prime Minister's Award for Literary Achievement. Avia said she received death threats after ACT's criticism of her work. The more serious purpose of saying something contentious is "just a joke" is to portray those who disagree as humourless and not deserving to be taken seriously. ACT's "Victim of the Day" campaign does something similar in attempting to discredit serious critics of the Regulatory Standards Bill by mocking them. But in the end, we have to be alert to the potential political double standard: harmless jokes for me, but not for you. Dangerous threats from you, but not from me. * Kevin Veale is Senior Lecturer in Media Studies, part of the Digital Cultures Laboratory in the School of Humanities, Media, and Creative Communication, Te Kunenga ki Pūrehuroa - Massey University.

RNZ News
2 hours ago
- RNZ News
David Seymour rejects claim Regulatory Standards Bill 'set up for his mates'
Labour MP Willie Jackson believed the bill would invite "big business" into the country and take away "community input". Photo: VNP / Phil Smith Labour MP Willie Jackson says he does not "acknowledge", "believe" or "trust" that the Regulatory Standards Bill won't give corporations more power, despite a clause saying it would not impose legal obligations. But ACT Leader David Seymour said Jackson was wrong and "muddying" the waters. In recent days, Seymour HAS made a series of social media posts singling out prominent opponents of the Bill, and accusing them of suffering from "Regulatory Standards Derangement Syndrome ." His targets included Jackson along with academics such as Dame Anne Salmond, Dr George Laking, and Metiria Turei. Wellington mayor Tory Whanau accused Seymour of setting a "dangerous precedent" for how dissenting voices were treated, and laid a formal complaint with the Prime Minister. On Monday, standing in for Christopher Luxon at a post-Cabinet press conference, Seymour dismissed the criticism, and accused the opponents of the bill of making incorrect statements. Speaking to media, Jackson said the bill was set up for "David Seymour's mates" and would invite "big business" into New Zealand while taking away "community input". "It's shocking, the way that he's just incorporated ACT values, libertarian values, at the expense of community values, Māaori values, New Zealand values, it's a shocking bill," Jackson said. Clause 24 of the bill stated that the Act "does not confer a legal right or impose a legal obligation on any person that is enforceable in a court of law". Asked if he acknowledged the bill would not impose legal obligations on people, Jackson said he still did not believe the bill nor Seymour, its architect. "You can tell me what you think. I'll tell you what I think, and that he wants to bring in Act libertarian values. He wants to bring in corporations on boards. He wants to ignore communities. He wants to ignore Māori. He wants to ignore your average New Zealander. "No, don't acknowledge it. Don't believe it. Don't trust it." Jackson said. Speaking to reporters, Seymour said the bill was very clear. David Seymour introduced the Regulatory Standards Bill. Photo: RNZ / Mark Papalii "It requires makers of laws to be transparent to Parliament what their law does and who it affects." "But it is also explicit that the regulatory standards bill... says that it does not give anybody any additional legal rights." Seymour said people "muddying the water" with misinformation were either not capable of understanding the law or deliberately making mischief. "It's not up to Willie Jackson to interpret the law. It's up to the courts, and I suspect that when they see in black and white, there are no additional legal rights." "The purpose of this law is to increase transparency to Parliament.... the good news is, I don't think Willie Jackson is going to become a judge anytime soon." Seymour said. Seymour said he had taken advice about the "likely" interpretation by the courts and was satisfied there would be a strong guide for lawmakers. Sign up for Ngā Pitopito Kōrero , a daily newsletter curated by our editors and delivered straight to your inbox every weekday.


Otago Daily Times
2 hours ago
- Otago Daily Times
Behaviour ‘unbecoming' of govt role
David Seymour. Photo: Gregor Richardson A former Green party leader is accusing David Seymour of behaviour "unbecoming" of the role of deputy prime minister after she was targeted for her criticism of a controversial Bill. In the past week, Mr Seymour has made a series of social media posts singling out several prominent opponents of his Regulatory Standards Bill and accusing them of suffering from "Regulatory Standards Derangement Syndrome." One of those targeted was University of Otago senior law lecturer and former Green party co-leader Metiria Stanton Turei who wrote an opinion piece, published in the Otago Daily Times on June 13, with the headline "The Regulatory Standards Bill is an attack on all of us". Her piece was critical of the Bill, which proposes a set of regulatory principles required for lawmakers, agencies and ministries to consider in regulation design. Mrs Stanton Turei said the legislation would exclude Māori language, culture and legal perspectives, constrain future governments and impact the environment. In a social media post on June 19, Mr Seymour labelled Mrs Stanton Turei "victim of the day" and laid out why he believed her arguments against the Bill were wrong — saying she was "spinning conspiracies". Mrs Stanton Turei said Mr Seymour's behaviour was "unbecoming" of a deputy prime minister. "It's arguably in breach of the cabinet manual and contrary to his advocacy of the right of academic freedom," she said. Metiria Stanton Turei. Photo: file She declined to make any further comment. Mr Seymour's office said he had addressed the matter at Monday's post cabinet stand-up, where he rubbished claims his posts breached the cabinet manual. "There's no such breach. If people want to go out and make completely incorrect statements, then I'm going to get a bit playful and have some fun with them." He said pointing out there was a "curious syndrome that is causing people to say untrue things" was different from outright calling them deranged. Another critic singled out by Mr Seymour, Dame Anne Salmond said his campaign was "lame, even laughable" but also an abuse of high office, and said she would formally lodge a complaint with the Cabinet Office. Wellington Mayor Tory Whanau accused Mr Seymour of setting a "dangerous precedent" for how dissenting voices were treated, and laid a formal complaint with the Prime Minister over the posts. The Regulatory Standards Bill passed its first reading last month and submissions on the Bill closed on Monday. The Finance and Expenditure Committee will consider the submissions, with its final report due by November 22. — additional reporting RNZ