
‘Materialists' Director Celine Song Believes in Love at First Conversation
Hosted by Anna Martin
Produced by Reva GoldbergEmily LangDavis LandChristina DjossaAmy Pearl and Sara Curtis
Edited by Jen Poyant and Lynn Levy
Engineered by Daniel Ramirez
Original music by Dan PowellMarion LozanoRowan NiemistoPat McCusker and Diane Wong
'You have to look at that wrinkled face of that person when you're 90 and still like them, all right? You still have to look at them and say: Look at that cute doofus.
The director Celine Song won over audiences and critics alike with her first feature film, 'Past Lives,' the semi-autobiographical tale of a married Korean American woman meeting up with her former childhood sweetheart. Now Song is back with another story about love called 'The Materialists.' This time the main character is a matchmaker, a job that Song did briefly in her early 20s.
Today on the show, Song reads Louise Rafkin's Modern Love essay 'My View From the Margins,' about a relationship columnist who can't figure out love in her own life. And Song tells us how neither falling in love at age 24 nor making a career of writing about love has brought her any closer to understanding it. 'It's the one thing that makes me feel like a fool,' Song says.
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'Modern Love' is hosted by Anna Martin and produced by Reva Goldberg, Emily Lang, Davis Land, Amy Pearl and Sara Curtis. The show is edited by Lynn Levy and Jen Poyant, our executive producer. Production management is by Christina Djossa. The show is mixed by Daniel Ramirez and recorded by Kyle Grandillo, Maddy Masiello and Nick Pitman. It features original music by Dan Powell, Marion Lozano, Pat McCusker, Rowan Niemisto and Diane Wong. Our theme music is by Dan Powell.
Special thanks to Daniel Jones, Miya Lee, Larissa Anderson, Dahlia Haddad, Lisa Tobin, Brooke Minters, Felice León, Dave Mayers, Eddie Costas, Sawyer Roque, Sophie Erickson, Mariya Abdulkaf, Mark Zemel, Pat Gunther, Mahima Chablani, Jeffrey Miranda, Isabella Anderson, Christine Nguyen, Reyna Desai, Jordan Cohen, Victoria Kim, Nina Lassam and Julia Simon.
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