
Did faulty wing flaps cause Air India crash? How 787 jet 'made FOUR emergency landings in last month because of problems with flaps and landing gear'
Experts have raised concerns about what might have caused the fatal Air India crash - including potential problems with the Boeing 787's wing flaps and landing gear.
Investigations are being stepped up following yesterday's tragedy that killed hundreds of people aboard the London Gatwick-bound aircraft - and the Dreamliner's wing flaps are coming under extra scrutiny as possibly to blame.
Experts viewing footage of the Air India Boeing 787-8 ahead of the crash have said its configuration on taking off from Ahmedabad airport in India 'doesn't look right'.
The Dreamliner plane was carrying 242 passengers, including 53 Britons - with none on board thought to have survived except one British national in seat 11A.
It has also been reported that an identical Boeing 787 made four emergency landings last month - an American Airlines plane with issues linked to its wing flaps not being properly deployed.
The aircraft is to have returned to Amsterdam not long after take-off toeards Philadelphia, before later aborted flights to Philadelphia from Dublin, Barcelona and Zurich, the Telegraph reported.
Ex- British Airways pilot Alastair Rosenschein, watching video of Air India's Flight 171 in yesterday's tragedy, suggested the plane 'clearly' had its landing gear down - saying that was 'not correct' and that 'it should have been up'.
He told Sky News: 'It's not immensely clear - but it does look like the aircraft didn't have its take-off flap setting.'
He described how the flaps must be set accurately to extend each wing's shape and generate further lift at lower speeds enabling take-off and follow-up climb.
Mr Rosenschein suggested the wing flaps issue 'could explain why the aircraft came down', with the plane then unable 'to maintain flight'.
He added: 'The video is not that clear, but it doesn't look right to me. The altitude of the aircraft isn't right either and the aircraft seems to be descending rather than climbing - it does look like it's an aerodynamic issue because of not having the right flaps setting on take-off.'
The Air India tragedy that saw a Boeing 787 Dreamliner plummet into a residential neighborhood on Thursday continues to provoke speculation as to its cause.
Speculation has been rife that the plane was not correctly set up for takeoff - having not deployed its 'flaps', segments of the wing that are used to assist with lift.
Marco Chan, of Buckinghamshire New University, said the setting of the flaps was completely down to the pilot - with more flap increasing the surface area of the wing and helping with lift at lower speeds.
But if the plane is not travelling quickly enough, the wrong flap setting could actually work in reverse - and stall the plane. Footage appears to show the jet descending with its nose in the air, as if still trying to climb.
Mr Chan said: 'Looking at the footage there are several experts suggesting the flaps aren't configured properly - it is hard to tell, but it could be a possibility.
'Every take-off is slightly different and you may have a different flap setting. It may not have been set properly. If that is the case, that is definitely human error. But we do have other procedures to ensure that doesn't happen.'
The plane had been en route to London Gatwick, having taken off shortly after 1pm local time, in fair flying conditions.
Air India received multiple safety concerns which has raised questions about its maintenance practices, it has now emerged.
Sanat Kaul, former Joint Secretary of the Civil Aviation Ministry, said the Directorate General of Civil Aviation had written to the airline on several occasions to highlight safety and inspection issues.
Mr Kaul said: 'In this matter, the DGCA Director General of Civil Aviation is the regulator.
'It functions under the Ministry, but operates independently. DGCA had written to Air India several times, pointing out multiple issues, mainly regarding safety, things like improper inspections and other lapses.
'So the question now arises about the maintenance procedures followed by Air India.
'There's also concern about what's called 'line maintenance', the checks conducted by inspectors before every flight. How thorough and effective those checks were is now under scrutiny.'
Air India has yet to respond to Mr Kaul's claims.
Meanwhile, the Indian government is considering grounding Air India's Boeing 787 fleet, the country's broadcaster NDTV reported.
According to local reports, one of the black boxes of the Air India flight 171 has been recovered while the search for the other one is ongoing.
Air India CEO Campbell Wilson said on Thursday: 'Investigations will take time, but anything we can do now we are doing.'
He visited the crash site on Friday morning but did not answer any questions from reporters, having previously expressing his 'deep sorrow' over the tragedy.
Mr Wilson also said that Air India's efforts were 'focused entirely on the needs of our passengers, crew members, their families and loved ones'.
The British survivor of the Air India plane crash has been visited by Indian prime minister Narendra Modi.
Video footage shows Vishwash Kumar Ramesh, 40, talking to Mr Modi while lying on his hospital bed.
Air India confirmed Mr Ramesh was the sole survivor of the 242 people on board the London-bound Boeing 787 Dreamliner when it crashed into a medical college shortly after take-off from Ahmedabad airport.
It is one of the deadliest plane crashes in terms of the number of British nationals killed, and the first involving a 787.
Mr Ramesh told DD News, 'I still can't believe how I survived', as he spoke from his hospital bed on Friday.
The 40-year-old told the broadcaster the plane felt like it was 'stuck in the air' shortly after take-off before lights began flickering green and white - adding: 'It suddenly slammed into a building and exploded.'
He said: 'I still can't believe how I came out of it alive. For a moment, I felt like I was going to die too.
'But when I opened my eyes and looked around, I realised I was alive. I still can't believe how I survived.'
Mr Ramesh was in seat 11A, next to one of the aircraft's emergency exits.
Addressing what happened before the incident, Mr Ramesh told the broadcaster: 'When the flight took off, within five to 10 seconds it felt like it was stuck in the air.
Astonishing footage showed the man walking away from the scene with some visible injuries to his face
'Suddenly, the lights started flickering - green and white.
'The aircraft wasn't gaining altitude and was just gliding before it suddenly slammed into a building and exploded.'
He added: 'At first, I thought I was dead.
'Later, I realised I was still alive and saw an opening in the fuselage.
'I managed to unbuckle myself, used my leg to push through that opening and crawled out.'
Commenting on his survival, Mr Ramesh said: 'I don't know how I survived. I saw people dying in front of my eyes.
'The air hostesses, and two people I saw near me. I walked out of the rubble.'
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Wreckage of a Boeing 787 Dreamliner lies at the site where the Air India plane crashed in Ahmedabad, India, June 12, 2025 Rescuers work at the site of an airplane that crashed in India's northwestern city of Ahmedabad in Gujarat state, Thursday, June12, 2025 The tail of the Dreamliner plane that crashed, hitting buildings in a residential area Remnants of the fuselage and the landing gear were seen dangling through a gaping hole in the side of what appeared to be a canteen, with half-finished plates of food clearly visible on benches inside Parts of the jet appeared to have smashed into the BJ Medical College and Civil Hospital Read More Expert's theory on simple mistake he thinks Air India co-pilot made that caused crash and killed 265 'I think the co-pilot grabbed the flap handle and raised the flaps, instead of the gear. If that happened, this explains a lot of why this airplane stopped flying.' 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