RFK Jr. says he's "not familiar" with all health program cuts in exclusive interview

CBS News

09-04-2025

In his first network TV interview since becoming Health and Human Services secretary under the Trump administration,
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
spoke with CBS News chief medical correspondent Dr. Jon LaPook about the measles vaccine, major government cuts and health care costs.
LaPook met with Kennedy in Mesa, Arizona, where he visited a native health center as part of a three-state tour to promote the Trump administration's "
Make America Healthy Again
" agenda, which includes overhauling standards for food processing.
"
FDA needs to start regulating food again and saying, you know, not just when food is adulterated, when there's bacteria in it, let's look at the chemicals in it," Kennedy said.
Since his appointment in February,
Kennedy
has facilitated
sweeping cuts
affecting a
wide range
of
programs
and
employees
.
When asked by LaPook if he personally approved the more than $11 billion proposed in
cuts to local and state programs
that address infectious disease, mental health, addiction and childhood vaccination, Kennedy said, "No I'm not familiar with those cuts. We'd have to go … the cuts were mainly DEI cuts, which the president ordered."
LaPook provided Kennedy with an example of a $750,000 University of Michigan grant focused on adolescent diabetes, which was eliminated.
"I didn't know that, and that's something that we'll look at," Kennedy said. He added that he could not speak to if it should be considered a DOGE cut.
"I just, I'm not familiar with that particular study. But there's a number of studies that were cut that came to our attention and that did not deserve to be cut, and we reinstated them. Our purpose is not to reduce any level of scientific research that's important."
Around
10,000 HHS employees
are being laid off in a restructuring move by Kennedy and Elon Musk's
DOGE
. The secretary acknowledged that some of the DOGE cuts will
need to be reinstated
.
"HHS's job is to make America healthy, and we're spending $1.9 trillion a year, and people are not getting healthy. ... What Elon said is that, when you do a disruption of this, a lot of times, 80% of the people that get cut ... You may make mistakes, as much as 20[%], and then you go back and remedy that."
With billions of dollars in cuts at stake, Kennedy addressed the cost of health care.
"People have a choice about how sick they are going to be, many people. If you don't have any choice, then we should give you all the resources that you want, but I mean... it's a moral question too, and it's a philosophical question," the secretary said. "If you're smoking three packs of cigarettes a day, should you expect society to pay when you get sick?"
For decades, Kennedy has been a vaccine skeptic and promoted
false claims
that vaccines cause autism. But now, Kennedy told CBS News he encourages people to get the
measles vaccine
.
"
The federal government's position, my position, is that people should get the measles vaccine, but ... the government should not be mandating those," he said.
Kennedy had previously said the measles vaccine is the most effective way to prevent the virus from spreading, but until now had stopped short of recommending it.
Yet he also continued to
raise doubts
despite decades of research and extensive testing that backs up the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.
"When I say they're not safety tested, what I mean is they're not adequately — many of the vaccines are tested for only three or four days with no placebo group," Kennedy said. "I always said during my campaign and every part, every public statement I've made: I'm not gonna take people's vaccines away from them. What I'm gonna do is make sure that we have good science so that people can make an informed choice."
The growing multi-state measles outbreak has hit Texas the hardest. As of Tuesday, the state reported more than 500 confirmed measles cases since January and two deaths in unvaccinated children, ages 6 and 8.
Following the
death of the second child
from measles-related causes, Kennedy traveled to Gaines County, Texas, posting on X that he was there "to comfort the Hildebrand family after the loss of their 8-year-old daughter Daisy."
As of April 3, the
CDC has reported 607 confirmed measles cases
in more than 20 states, including: Alaska, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Washington.
The
outbreak centered in West Texas
has primarily impacted children and teens, most of whom were unvaccinated or have an unknown vaccination status.