Public ownership ‘not the answer' says Reed after Thames Water deal collapse
Keeping Thames Water and other utility firms afloat through public ownership could draw money away from the NHS, the Environment Secretary has warned.
Steve Reed said nationalisation was 'not the answer' to a failed bid to rescue the debt-laden utility, after private equity giant KKR pulled out of a deal which would have seen around £4 billion of new equity invested into the firm.
At the despatch box, Conservative shadow environment secretary Victoria Atkins accused ministers of having 'talked themselves out of' a rescue plan.
Thames Water faces around £19 billion of debt and the company's chairman Sir Adrian Montague previously warned the Commons Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee that there were 'hair-raising' moments in the last year when the firm had five weeks' worth of cash left before going bust.
At the despatch box, Mr Reed told MPs: 'The Government stands ready for any eventuality and will take action as required.
'We are not looking at nationalisation because it would cost over £100 billion of public money that would have had to be taken away from other public services like the National Health Service to be given to the owners of the water companies.
'It will take years to unpick the current model of ownership, during which time pollution would get worse and we know that nationalisation is not the answer – you only have to look at the situation in Scotland to see that.'
In his question, Labour MP for Norwich South Clive Lewis had earlier told the Commons: 'The collapse of KKR's rescue deal isn't a blip, it's a reckoning – a moment that exposes the complete bankruptcy of the privatised water model.
'This morning's interim (Sir Jon) Cunliffe review into the water sector confirms the scale of the crisis. He describes our water system, a regulated statutory monopoly, as now too risky for investors.
'Too risky – but it didn't seem too risky when shareholders were siphoning off billions in dividends while letting the pipes rot, rivers choke and the debt pile up.'
Mr Lewis urged the Government to 'stop fiddling, put Thames Water into special administration, strip out the debt, and begin the job of returning our water system – not just Thames – back into public ownership'.
Sir Jon recommended that 'to attract such long-term investors' into water companies, risks 'need to be lower than they are presently', ahead of a final report later in summer.
Mr Reed earlier said that 'the Government will respond in full to the (Independent Water) Commission's final report in due course and outline further steps to benefit customers, attract investment and clean up our waterways'.
Ms Atkins said Thames Water's 16 million water supply and sewage customers throughout London and southern England 'will be concerned at the news this morning that private equity firm KKR have pulled out of their rescue deal with Thames Water'.
She continued: 'According to a source close to KKR, one of the reasons they pulled out was because they were concerned about negative rhetoric directed at Thames Water and the rest of the industry in recent weeks by the Secretary of State and other ministers; in other words, the Secretary of State and his ministers have talked themselves out of this rescue deal.'
Ms Atkins asked whether the Government's options 'include a plan for temporary renationalisation', which she warned could dent Mr Reed's environment, food and rural affairs budget by up to £4 billion.
Mr Reed replied that it was not 'particularly clever to stand at the despatch box opposite and make up figures to attack', and continued: 'This Government stands ready for all eventualities but I will make no apology for tackling the poor behaviour of water companies and water company executives that took place under the previous government and that we are correcting.
'I mean, we even had stories that have been confirmed by water companies of previous Conservative secretaries of state shouting and screaming at water company bosses but not actually changing the law to do anything about the bonuses that they were able to pay themselves.'
The minister said the Government was working with customers, companies and investors to 'ensure that we have a successful water sector that works for the environment and for customers and for investors'.
Liberal Democrat environment spokesman Tim Farron said the company should go into special administration and emerge 'as a public interest company'.
He added: 'Thames Water's customers have been left in the lurch, and the Conservatives seem to think it's all because we've all been a bit too mean about Thames Water. The price must not be paid by the customers.
'Will he ensure that those who are responsible for making dreadful decisions rightly bear the cost instead?'
Mr Reed replied: 'There is a procedure to be followed for special administration.
'We stand ready should that be required in this case, or in any other case with regulated industries.'
Elsewhere in the debate, Labour MP for Eltham and Chislehurst Clive Efford suggested the Government should 'put this company out of its misery'.
Reform UK deputy leader Richard Tice proposed a plan to 'buy it for a pound – it's a good deal for the taxpayer – then it won't have to pay huge, egregious rates of interest, and the taxpayer and the customers will be the beneficiaries'.

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles
Yahoo
38 minutes ago
- Yahoo
Ivison: The future is nuclear but we need pipelines too
This week, John Ivison discussed the Carney government's plans for nation-building projects with Dr. Heather Exner-Pirot, a senior advisor for the Business Council of Canada. Ivison asked whether asking premiers to submit projects deemed to be in the national interest will mean we are at risk of pursuing white elephants that are not feasible or uneconomic. 'The tone has markedly improved from the last Liberal government, so there is some optimism,' she said. 'There is a sense that the federal government will be a partner in building things, where, for a long time, we thought they were blocking our ability to build things. So it's a great start but there's only so long that you can have a honeymoon period before things have to happen. We actually have to see some action. And we know that Liberal governments are very good at rhetoric and not so great at implementation.' She said her concern is that projects are being submitted by governments and then projects deemed 'nation-building' are being selected by the federal government. 'The direction it's going is a little concerning, in that they want to have a short list of nation-building projects and they will determine if it's nation building and use the public purse to fund them in cases where the private sector will not step up. 'There may be a handful where that's justified. There's obviously a role for governments to build infrastructure. But the low-hanging fruit is obviously to improve our regulatory competitiveness. We have very restrictive, very burdensome regulatory processes. There are a lot of projects that proponents want to do on their own, without government help, if the regulation was better, if we had better tax competitiveness with our competitors. And so I will tolerate a handful of these nation building projects, if they make sense from a business side. But at the end of the day, we're going to need to see the regulations improved and streamlined.' Exner-Pirot said that Mark Carney's goal of a two-year approval process is a 'great target' '(But) we should walk before we run. For some of these things, three years also look pretty good. Two years is certainly feasible if we have good processes and good relations with Indigenous partners. The Conservatives were talking about a six months (approval process) and that just didn't seem feasible to me – that you would never be able to fulfill your duty to consult and accommodate in such a timeline. So two years is ambitious, but doable and we should reach for it.' She pointed out that Canada has to be regulatory and tax competitive with jurisdictions like Texas. 'We would like to bring some of that capital back home. But at the end of the day, investors are going to make those decisions based on the return that they get. Let's make sure that our tax system is competitive so that capital actually wants to choose Canada. One sector where Exner-Pirot is extremely bullish is nuclear power generation using small modular nuclear reactors. This is the one area where I just think: 'Yes, this is a nation building project'. We should lead on SMRs. And there's so many strategic reasons for Canada. One is that we have the uranium source. (We are) the world's number two exporter and number two producer of uranium. We have phenomenal deposits in northern Saskatchewan and in Nunavut. We could dominate the supply chain and the technology. We are building the first SMR in the G7. It has taken some public money to get there. But being the first mover really does accord you some benefits as you try to sell these models in the future. So where can we go next? Nuclear really has the potential if you get the cost curve down. It's a baseload clean energy that needs very little land and very little material inputs. In 100 years, do I think we'll be doing mostly nuclear? Yes, I honestly do.' On specific projects, Ivison asked if a bitumen pipeline should be a priority. '(Alberta premier) Danielle Smith has said it, and my analysis suggests it's absolutely true: There is nothing that will change the economic growth, the GDP, the productivity per capita in this country as much as a bitumen pipeline. We finally added Trans Mountain about a year ago. That's at 90 per cent utilization right now in one year. Our producers filled it fast, so there's clearly demand. We're seeing most of that demand come from Asia, so there is strong demand in global markets for Canadian heavy oil. But it is concerning that we have added this pipeline and we're already running out of egress. So there is an urgency from the producers that we need to start thinking about the next pipeline. And I don't think we're going to get Northern Gateway in two years. If everything went well, probably four years. And that's why we have to start planning for (the next one) now,' she said. Exner-Pirot said whichever pipeline plan comes forward will require the B.C. government to revisit its opposition to tanker traffic on the West Coast. 'I'm finding this hard to understand because B.C. has actually done some constructive and progressive things on the economic development side since Trump was inaugurated. (Premier Dave) Eby has almost been the most vocal about wanting the elbows up. He said in February that if we don't sell Canadian oil and gas, they will just get it from places like Venezuela. I thought: 'Wow, this guy has had a light bulb moment'. To hear (his support for the tanker ban) two and a half months later is quite disappointing. Now a lot of this is federal jurisdiction, so while we want the feds to get out of the way, (it is different) on inter-provincial pipelines, because that is clearly federal jurisdiction. We know from Trans Mountain when B.C., if you recall, said: 'We will use every tool in the toolbox to stop this project'. And they did. But it wasn't their right. The feds can overturn the oil tanker ban. That's their jurisdiction. But what proponent really wants to step into a situation where a provincial government is going to use every tool in the toolbox to stop your project? It's obviously not bullish for investment to have this kind of political disagreement on the ground.' Ivison asked if the idea of a 'grand bargain' between Alberta and Ottawa on decarbonizing bitumen before it is transported to the West Coast by pipeline is a viable option. 'It is feasible. The industry itself has proposed carbon capture and also using some solvents to reduce emissions. In the last 11 years, they have actually reduced carbon intensity emissions per barrel by 30 per cent. So they are doing the work. A lot of the carbon comes from natural gas input to heat the bitumen. That's an expense. There's every reason why they would rather not have to pay that kind of money. 'Right now, the oil sands, on a life cycle basis, is only about 1-3 per cent higher emissions than the global average barrel, the average crude. But if we did this carbon capture, if we did some of the solvent innovations that they're using, it would actually be below the global average on a life cycle basis. So there is a grand bargain to be had. The industry itself has been advocating it. We're very competitive on an economic basis. We want to be competitive on a carbon basis. 'What Danielle Smith is saying is: 'Where's the money going to come from to spend probably $20 billion on these (carbon capture) technologies? If you know you're going to get another pipeline and you can increase your production and fill it with a million barrels a day, well, now there's more revenue coming in and there's a justification. (But) if all your profits have to be driven into carbon capture, you're just not going to get any investment. All of this is cost, none of this is profit and they still have to have a certain level of return from the investors or the investors will just take off.' Moving east across Canada,, Exner-Pirot has been skeptical about Arctic ports being commercially viable. She noted that the feds and the province of Manitoba have spent more than half a billion dollars on the port of Churchill and it's still not attracting shippers and investors, while the Northwest Territories is trying to push the idea of an 'Arctic Security Corridor' that runs between Alberta and Gray's Bay in Nunavut, via Yellowknife. Both ports are impacted by a short shipping season because of sea ice. 'It's a terrible idea for oil and a very bad idea for liquefied natural gas,' she said. 'You will never get a return on your investment. We do want northern development. We do want those regions to prosper at a local level. (But) this is not the thing that's going to grow our GDP. This is not the thing that's going to help Canada diversify its exports away. 'A port in Churchill and a port in Gray's Bay can be useful for helping local mining development happen. That's important for jobs, for taxes, for royalties, for those communities' economic health. So there's a reason it's a public good to provide some basic infrastructure, basic transportation access for the people that live there. Critical minerals are a very different thing from oil. You can mine, you can produce all year and stockpile it, and then in that short shipping season you can ship it out. It's not very expensive just to have it sitting there while the shipping season is closed.' Exner-Pirot said the signs are positive that Canada will finally get its act together and overcome the barriers to economic development because the alternative is stagnation. 'If we return to our complacency after what we've seen and what we've gone through, then God help this country. The conversation right now, again, is focusing on a few projects. I'll be tolerant of this, maybe for a handful of projects and for a handful of months. But (we must) improve our regulatory systems, especially at the federal level. That is where we need to see movement. You can't bring in new people at the rate we bring in new people, and you can't be dependent on China at the rate that we're dependent on China. That cannot keep going on,' she said. John Ivison: Premiers seem delighted just to finally be meeting with a grown-up PM John Ivison: The first Carney spending numbers are as bad as Trudeau's Get more deep-dive National Post political coverage and analysis in your inbox with the Political Hack newsletter, where Ottawa bureau chief Stuart Thomson and political analyst Tasha Kheiriddin get at what's really going on behind the scenes on Parliament Hill every Wednesday and Friday, exclusively for subscribers. Sign up here.


News24
an hour ago
- News24
Siyahleba: McKenzie fears illness JZ will always be JZee MKP chaos saved KZN
Tebogo Letsie McKenzie fears illness from economy class flights Our Sport, Arts and Culture Minister, Gayton McKenzie, forgets that he is working for government and the people and not for himself. This week, he threw a fit, complaining that being on too many economy class flights would make him sick. He even disclosed that he was not the type to use Uber as transport, but that government requirements were forcing him to downgrade to that level! Poor Gayton. He was replying to a question about his spending on travel since he became a minister a year ago, which amounts to R4.8 million. The loquacious McKenzie said: Official trips are not holidays or joyrides. I am personally no stranger to international travel as a successful businessman. I was well travelled long before I became a minister. To expect ministers to [take long flights in economy class] in relentless working conditions would simply be impractical and even sadistic. Ag shame! JZ will always be JZee Umkhonto weSizwe Party (MKP) members were left surprised when they saw pictures of their Jacob Zuma frolicking and playing with former Mpumalanga MKP convener, Mary Phadi, who was allegedly suspended from the party's activities. Phadi has been running parallel structures in Mpumalanga when the party officially endorsed Busisiwe Mkhwebane to lead the province. Members have been expecting the party to take a hard line against her. But, lo and behold, she is being entertained in Nkandla by a smiling Zuma. But anyone who knows Zuma, who had five wives at some point, will know that he was always going to fold in front of the rather pretty Phadi! Gallo Images / Darren Stewart MKP chaos saved KZN Talking of the MKP, the party pulled another shocker – Floyd Shivambu was booted out as secretary-general and moved to Parliament, all thanks to his Easter visit to Shepherd Bushiri's church in Malawi. Word is that the holy trip didn't sit well with the MKP's top brass. The party scored a hefty 45% of the vote in KwaZulu-Natal, just a few seats short of taking full control of the province, only needing 5% plus one to govern outright. With reshuffles happening more often than load shedding in the party, it's clear that if negotiations hadn't dragged on and they had taken control of KwaZulu-Natal, we would probably be on premier number six by now. Prayers might still be needed. HOT Our wheelchair tennis star Kgothatso Montjane and her Japanese team-mate Yui Kamiji displayed an incredible come-from-behind 4-6 7-5 (10-7) victory to seal the 2025 Wheelchair Tennis Doubles title at the French Open in Paris on Friday – their second title win in the French capital. The pair have made reaching finals a habit, having participated in the last four finals and taken their first title in 2023. The duo also won the US Open title together in 2023, as well as the Wimbledon crown last year. Despite falling short in the semifinals of the singles competition, Montjane can be proud of the fact that she's bringing home another title. NOT Power is a drug. And, like most drugs, it is addictive and dangerous to both the user and those close to them. Higher Education Minister Nobuhle Nkabane clearly does not understand this. In recent months, she has found herself at the receiving end of criticism for behaviour that is unbecoming of a person in her position. Like a person typically drunk on power, she has been dismissive of criticism. The latest incident relates to a viral video showing her chewing gum while taking questions in a portfolio committee meeting in Parliament. In addition to chewing gum like a typical tart at a brothel, she was rude and dismissive of a question that had been asked. Even after social media denizens attacked her for her behaviour, she refused to apologise. It was only after President Cyril Ramaphosa requested a report from her regarding her lack of decorum that she released a statement clarifying her behaviour. The 'apology' is insincere and comes from a dishonest heart. Bad behaviour by our MPs is becoming endemic. The president must deal with Nkabane sternly, to send a message to the rest that rudeness and Trumpish antics shall not be tolerated.
Yahoo
2 hours ago
- Yahoo
Musk's efficiency model fails, Israel needs excellence
In a nation known worldwide for innovation, shouldn't our governmental systems reflect the same ingenuity that powers our most successful sectors? Imagine two government offices side by side. In the first, budget cuts eliminate 30% of the staff, forcing the remaining workers to process paperwork faster, yet citizens still wait hours, frustrated and unserved. In the second, a complete digital redesign allows most services to be completed online in minutes, with personalized guidance available for complex cases. Both claim 'efficiency,' but only the second delivers excellence. When Elon Musk took charge of US President Donald Trump's Department of Government Efficiency, he promised a revolution in government operations. Within weeks, over 200,000 federal employees were dismissed. 'We are moving fast,' Musk admitted, 'but we'll also fix mistakes quickly.' This bulldozer model captured global attention, including in Israel, where bureaucracy has long been a national punchline. The temptation to import this model is understandable. Yet what Israel needs is not America's DOGE but rather to reimagine the concept entirely, where the 'E' evolves from mere 'Efficiency' to true 'Excellence.' This distinction isn't semantic wordplay. Efficiency asks, 'How can we do the same with less?' Excellence asks, 'How can we create more value for citizens?' The first measure reduced inputs; the second focused on improved outcomes. Excellence often costs less in the long run by eliminating the hidden expenses of poor service: repeated visits, economic opportunities lost to delays, and the massive collective waste of citizens' time. As Israelis, we maintain a consistent expectation that our government should deliver quality services year after year. This social contract is fundamental to our society. We're willing to contribute through taxes and military service, but we expect competent governance in return. The excellence approach recognizes that well-functioning public institutions form the foundation of this mutual commitment and our national resilience. The irony is that Israel, the Start-up Nation, lags dramatically behind in government innovation. The same country that pioneers cutting-edge technologies in cybersecurity, agriculture, and healthcare still processes many government services using methods from the previous century. What the American DOGE does get right is creating a national conversation about government performance. Before DOGE, government reform was largely a technical discussion among experts. Now, it's front-page news. This visibility creates accountability and builds the political will necessary for meaningful change – precisely what Israel's public sector reforms have lacked. Excellence doesn't mean abandoning necessary protections; strong regulatory frameworks safeguard public health, safety, and essential services. The goal isn't to eliminate these safeguards but to redesign them intelligently. Consider business licensing: smart reform maintains high standards while eliminating redundant approvals and creating clear, predictable paths for entrepreneurs. What would an excellence-focused approach look like in practice? The solutions are largely known, and numerous committee reports have outlined necessary reforms for Israel's public service. What's missing isn't ideas but rather the sustained political commitment and public support to implement them. Three key initiatives must take priority. First, government services must be fundamentally redesigned with citizens at the center of the process. This goes beyond mere digitization to rethinking how services are structured and delivered. Estonia offers an instructive example. They've built an integrated digital government platform where services are designed around life events and user needs, not agency structures. Their transformation saves an estimated 2% of GDP annually while dramatically improving citizen satisfaction. The key insight isn't just technology; it's the citizen-centric redesign of the entire service experience. Second, excellence demands investing strategically in our public servants. This means creating diverse entry pathways to attract top talent, ensuring competitive compensation for key positions, and establishing cultures of innovation where continuous improvement is rewarded. Third, we need structured collaboration across sectors. Government doesn't have to solve every problem alone; it can leverage expertise from private industry, civil society, and academia. This multi-sectoral approach enables faster adaptation to evolving challenges while ensuring public services remain relevant and effective. The blueprints for transformation already exist in Israel. What's needed now is the determination to implement them, not through indiscriminate cuts but through thoughtful redesign backed by a genuine political commitment to better service. The citizens of Israel deserve a civil service that matches the excellence they demonstrate in their own fields. In a nation known worldwide for innovation, shouldn't our governmental systems reflect the same ingenuity that powers our most successful sectors? The question isn't whether we can afford such a transformation but whether we can afford to continue without it. The writer is the executive director of Tashtit, which works to promote professional and effective public service in Israel. He is also a member of the leadership team at Eco Memshal, a multi-sectoral space for organizations working to strengthen the public service in Israel.