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Trump: 'Harvard's Going To Have To Change' - The Source with Kaitlan Collins - Podcast on CNN Audio

Trump: 'Harvard's Going To Have To Change' - The Source with Kaitlan Collins - Podcast on CNN Audio

CNN24-05-2025

Trump: 'Harvard's Going To Have To Change' The Source with Kaitlan Collins 45 mins
Harvard hits back and accuses the Trump administration of carrying out a campaign of retribution as a federal judge puts the breaks on the President's new ban. Also, iPhone prices rise starting this summer as President Trump is now taking aim directly at Apple.

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