logo
EV Q&A: Why does our car not work with some chargers?

EV Q&A: Why does our car not work with some chargers?

Irish Times13-05-2025

Q: While in Mallorca this summer, my husband was eager to hire an
electric car
(apart from it being cheaper than petrol alternatives). At the airport, we were upgraded to a
Polestar 2
and headed off. The next day, my husband went off to try out charging/paying at charging points. We couldn't get any points to charge the car! After two days, we had to drive back across the island to the airport before the battery ran flat. The car hire company took the car, and went off to charge it, which failed as well. Not only did it fail, but every charging point it connected to was put out of service. My question is: why are the charging points not more resilient? The car hire company told me that more than 30 per cent of the charging infrastructure was down at any one time in Mallorca.
– K Woollett, Co Dublin
A:
That 30 per cent of chargers being out of action at any one time is, worryingly, not an unrealistic figure. While most charging providers will claim to have at least 90 per cent reliability, figures from the Competition and Markets Authority in the UK show that anywhere between a tenth and a quarter of all public charging points are out of order at any given time, and that 30 per cent outages are far from uncommon.
However, that wasn't really your question, your question was to do with specific cars and specific chargers. It should be simple, charging. After all, it's plugging an electrical device into a power source – something we do at home many times per day and something we've all been doing since Thomas Edison nicked Nikola Tesla's good ideas ...
While the odd blown fuse might be excusable, the sad – and deeply irritating – fact is that plugging in an electric car just isn't so simple.
READ MORE
For a start, EVs work off at least a 400-volt, and increasingly an 800-volt system. That's a voltage that would be instantly lethal to you should anything go wrong and you came into direct contact with the current. So there are layers and layers of safety locks that have to be satisfied before current can start to flow, all the more necessary if it's raining (which, in fairness, I assume it wasn't in Mallorca…).
So there are plenty of opportunities for software issues to arise simply by taking the safety locks into account. Your issue did seem to be very strange, though, so we contacted Polestar to see if they could shed any light on it.
However, they couldn't – partly that was simply due to not being able to have access to the car and therefore not really being in a position to comment, and partly because they were working on the assumption that any issue with charging will be down to the charger, not the car, as car makers work hard to ensure that all cars are compatible with all chargers.
That makes sense, of course, but perhaps it doesn't always work. On the one hand, the Polestar 2 uses well-proven battery and electronic systems from Volvo, which shouldn't present any problems.
[
EV home charging pilot fails to address critical issue
Opens in new window
]
On the other, coming from a car-hire firm, perhaps this particular car hadn't been properly set up before it was released out into the car-hire wilds, and maybe that's the source of the issue.
Or, it could be a proper mystery. For instance, we've been in contact with an EV owner in the UK, who has a home charger provided by PodPoint.
In the past, this charger has worked flawlessly with a first-generation Mini E, a BMW iX3, and a Porsche Taycan. However, when this person purchased a new-shape Mini Electric, brought it home, and plugged it in ... nada, nothing, a big fat nope on the charging front.
Cue a flurry of phone calls between the owner, Mini, and PodPoint which resulted in, as this person told us: 'A lot of shrugging emojis ...'
It did seem to be a broader, known problem though, of this new generation of electric Mini simply not recognising a PodPoint charger, or vice versa. And this is not an isolated problem – PodPoint is one of the biggest charging suppliers in the UK.
[
China's CATL says it has overtaken BYD on 5-minute EV battery charging time
Opens in new window
]
Finally, a month into ownership, a reflash of the software controlling the PodPoint charger did the job, and the Mini is now charging properly. The problem? No one seems to know why, so it's not clear if the problem has been permanently fixed or if it might recur.
It gets dafter. Coming soon will be a new EV that will be entirely and deliberately incompatible with huge swathes of the charging network.
Mercedes is about to launch its new, ultra-long-range CLA electric saloon
, with an almost 800km range. That's some range, but don't expect to be able to top it up easily when you're out and about.
Mercedes has designed the new CLA around an ultra-fast 800-volt charging system, which makes it ridiculously quick to charge. That's nothing new, as Audi, Porsche, Kia, and Hyundai have had 800-volt charging systems in some of their models for some time now.
However, those Audi, Porsche, Kia, and Hyundai systems are back-compatible – in other words, if you plug them into a public charging point that works on a 400-volt system, and that's nearly all of them, then those cars can happily use 400-volt charging, they just won't charge up quite as quickly.
Not so the new Mercedes. The company is already warning potential buyers that the CLA simply won't work with 400-volt chargers, and can only be charged either at home on a slow wallbox charger, or on a high-powered 800-volt public charger.
That means most of the public chargers we have right now are going to be off-limits for the CLA. Remember when Apple ditched the headphone socket and made you buy Bluetooth buds? Yeah, like that only now you're stranded at the side of the road (to be fair, with an 800km range, that's unlikely unless you're very careless).
I feel as if we haven't really answered your question, and to be honest it's because we actually can't.
Electricity should be simple, well-understood tech, and for the most part it is. But there is a faint whiff of mystery when it comes to the electronics that control the flow of that electricity, and it can be moody and capricious stuff.
Until that's better understood, there will be moments when any of us will pull up at a charging station and it simply won't work for us. And there will be no easily explicable reason for that.

Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

Cork packaging group Zeus acquires two businesses and sees path to €1bn in annual revenues
Cork packaging group Zeus acquires two businesses and sees path to €1bn in annual revenues

Irish Times

time26 minutes ago

  • Irish Times

Cork packaging group Zeus acquires two businesses and sees path to €1bn in annual revenues

Cork-based packaging group Zeus has completed bolt-on acquisitions in England and Spain that will add €20 million to its annual revenues, which will be in excess of €500 million this year. The Irish company has closed the acquisition of Empire Tapes, a Rotherham-based manufacturer of specialist adhesive tapes, and Rio Tinto Plásticos, a Spanish distributor and manufacturer of sustainable packaging products. Empire Tapes serves industrial clients across the UK and globally while Rio Tinto is known for its sustainable, single-use packaging solutions for the vending, hospitality and catering sectors. Zeus's founder and owner Brian O'Sullivan said the businesses were 'both highly respected operators' in their fields and would bring new capabilities to the Irish group. READ MORE 'The company we have acquired in the UK is a speciality tape manufacturer. It can produce tapes that can go down to minus 40 degrees, for example, or plus 120 degrees for the automotive industry or steel. It's the next level of vertical integration to give us wider grasp within the transit packaging sphere,' Mr O'Sullivan told The Irish Times while visiting Tokyo last week as part of the EY Entrepreneur of the Year CEO retreat. [ 'The Japanese want to see you have the attention to detail, customer service and quality they expect. You have to deliver' Opens in new window ] 'We already have a sizeable business in Spain but the market there is very fractured with packaging. We're one of the top two or three businesses in Spain. This is in addition to that, it's a partner of ours and we've known the owners for many years and have worked very closely with them. It gives us more market penetration into the vending packaging area.' Mr O'Sullivan said Spain was a market 'that we will look to double up in over the next two to three years'. Zeus is one of the largest privately-owned packaging companies in Europe with a footprint across 40 countries, employing 1,500 staff directly. The acquisitions will help the company hit revenues of about €550 million for 2025, with significant growth forecast for 2026, according to Mr O'Sullivan. 'What we see in our pipeline between organic and acquisitions, we'd be looking to reach to between €650 million and €700 million of revenue,' he said, adding that it could breach the €1 billion mark within the next three to five years subject to market conditions. 'We can grow by bolt-on acquisitions and we can grow to that figure of €1 billion, that's within our grasp.' Mr O'Sullivan owns 100 per cent of the business and says he has no current plans to sell an equity stake in the company or to IPO it on the stock market with a view to taking some money off the table. 'I love what I'm doing, I have a passion for the business, and I'd like to drive it on for the next period.' Mr O'Sullivan was named the EY Entrepreneur of the Year in 2021 . At that time, the company employed about 670 staff and had annual revenues of €300 million.

Oscar Piastri leads McLaren one-two in Spanish GP as Max Verstappen pays penalty
Oscar Piastri leads McLaren one-two in Spanish GP as Max Verstappen pays penalty

Irish Times

timea day ago

  • Irish Times

Oscar Piastri leads McLaren one-two in Spanish GP as Max Verstappen pays penalty

Oscar Piastri won the Spanish Grand Prix with a dominant run at the front of the field at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya to secure victory in front of his McLaren team-mate Lando Norris. However the race was marked by a late moment of impetuous anger from Max Verstappen that cost Red Bull's defending world champion a huge points loss to the leaders. Ferrari's Charles Leclerc was in third. The race had been an intriguing strategic contest if not a thriller until a late safety car. With five laps to go, Piastri held his lead from the restart and Leclerc pounced on Verstappen, who almost completely lost the rear as he came out of the final corner, his hard tyres having no grip. Verstappen then had contact with Mercedes's George Russell as the pair went through turn one and Verstappen went off but held his place. He was told to let Russell through but was clearly aggrieved. He moved over to let the British driver past and as he did so, he then drove side-on into the Mercedes. [ Alex Dunne regains lead in Formula 2 drivers' championship Opens in new window ] He was immediately investigated by the stewards, while Russell still had the place, and Verstappen was swiftly given a 10-second time penalty, dropping him to 10th. Piastri now leads Norris by 10 points in the title fight but Verstappen has dropped to 49 points back, after what was an enormously costly moment for the Dutchman. READ MORE It was McLaren's first win in Spain for two decades as the team served notice they retain a formidable advantage over the rest of the field. Russell took fourth, with Nico Hülkenberg a superb fifth for Sauber. The late drama came only after the two McLarens had dominated the race, with Verstappen and Red Bull doing their best to stay in the fight with an alternate three-stop strategy. It had paid off, despite being outpaced, with the world champion very much in the mix and on for a podium place when a late safety car closed the pack up and there was a final dash for the last five laps. Red Bull's Max Verstappen after Sunday's race. Photograph:Verstappen's three stops had used up all his soft tyres, meaning he was forced on to the slower hard rubber, which left him impotent at the restart and led to the frustration and dangerous driving that will doubtless face enormous criticism far beyond the penalty he received. The three drivers on the podium were left speechless when they watched it in the cool-down room. Beyond the incident the result was conclusive evidence, were any further needed, that the FIA's technical directive restricting the flexing of front wings, applied at this race, has made little to no difference to the pecking order. In the build-up to the meeting the clampdown had dominated discussion as to whether it might materially affect the championship leaders. McLaren had been bullish that this was not where the strength of their car lay and have been proved correct in every session this weekend. Their car is still dominant, surely putting the issue to bed once and for all but more important indicating that if they are to be caught it will take a major step forward from their rivals. The race belonged to Piastri, who was in assured control from the front, with the same measured, calm confidence that sat in stark contrast to Verstappen's temper as the 24-year-old Australian reminded everyone he has the traits of a world champion in waiting. Lewis Hamilton was in sixth for Ferrari, Isack Hadjar in seventh for Racing Bulls, Pierre Gasly eighth for Alpine and Fernando Alonso ninth for Aston Martin. – Guardian

Oscar Piastri takes pole in McLaren one-two for Spanish GP
Oscar Piastri takes pole in McLaren one-two for Spanish GP

Irish Times

time2 days ago

  • Irish Times

Oscar Piastri takes pole in McLaren one-two for Spanish GP

Oscar Piastri delivered a hammer blow to Lando Norris's bid to win back-to-back races by seeing off his title rival and team-mate to take a commanding pole position for the Spanish Grand Prix . Piastri holds a three-point championship lead over Norris, and the Australian delivered in qualifying to beat the British driver by an impressive 0.209 seconds at Barcelona's Circuit de Catalunya – the biggest pole margin of the season so far. World champion Max Verstappen took third place for Red Bull, one spot clear of Mercedes' George Russell. Verstappen and Russell set identical times with the former taking the higher grid slot after setting his time first. Lewis Hamilton qualified fifth with Kimi Antonelli sixth for Mercedes and Charles Leclerc, who completed just one quick lap in Q3, seventh. READ MORE McLaren have won six of the eight rounds so far, and their rivals might have hoped that a clampdown on flexible front wings – which some believe has contributed to the team's rise – would slow them down. However, the rule tweak has done little to influence McLaren's speed, with Piastri and Norris embroiled in a tense battle for pole. Norris secured top spot in Monaco a week ago before going on to claim his first win since March's season opener in Melbourne. Oscar Piastri and Max Verstappen after Saturday's qualifying session at Circuit de Catalunya. Photograph: Lluis Gene/AFP via Getty Images He ended the first runs here in Q3 holding a slender 0.017 sec margin over his team-mate. Norris enjoyed a tow off Piastri's McLaren with the Australian calling his team-mate's antics 'cheeky'. The McLaren duo returned for a final shot at pole and although Norris improved on his first lap, it was Piastri who lit up the time sheets by taking his fourth pole of the season by two tenths. 'I am very happy,' said Piastri. 'It didn't start off in the best way. I was struggling but I found pace and the car has been mega. 'I improved quite a lot in Turn 1 on my second lap and it all came together. It wasn't the perfect lap. It is going to be an interesting one tomorrow and I am pretty glad I am starting from pole.' Home favourite Carlos Sainz qualified a disappointing 18th while Red Bull's Yuki Tsunoda will prop up the grid after he clocked the slowest time with just eight tenths separating first to last in Q1. In Formula 2, Ireland's Alex Dunne has regained the top spot in the drivers standings after coming second in Saturday's sprint race. The Offaly 19-year-old, racing for Rodin Motorsport, earned nine points with his second-place finish behind MP Motorsport's Richard Verschoor, which sees him retake the lead in the drivers championship, four points ahead of Hitech TGR's Luke Browning. Dunne starts Sunday's feature race from fifth on the grid.

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into the world of global news and events? Download our app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store