What Side Are the ‘All-In Pod' Bros On?

Gizmodo

4 hours ago

When Donald Trump and Elon Musk finally had their big blowout last week, fans of the All-In podcast knew the next episode was going to be one to watch. There's just one little problem: The All-In boys didn't release a new episode like everyone expected this week. And folks on social media have noticed.
The show features four incredibly wealthy men who are friends with Musk and have devoted themselves to carrying water for Trump. You've got Chamath Palihapitiya, Jason Calacanis, and David Friedberg, who all decided in the summer of 2024 to debase themselves in the name of supporting a fascist. They had Trump on the show and lobbed softball questions as Trump rambled about artificial intelligence and other topics he knew nothing about. The fourth host, David Sacks, went a step further, even joining the administration as the so-called 'crypto czar' after Trump's election win.
So it makes sense that people would want to hear what these guys have to say about the current controversy, which started relatively small. Last week, Musk expressed frustration with the Republican budget bill for not cutting enough, Trump said he was disappointed in Musk, and then it was off to the races. Musk went nuclear claiming Trump was 'in the Epstein files,' a reference to the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and Trump said he might cancel Musk's contracts with the government. Musk relies on billions in government money to sustain his businesses, especially SpaceX.
Things appear to have calmed down a bit, with Musk deleting some of his most incendiary tweets, including one suggesting Trump should be impeached and replaced by Vice President JD Vance. And Musk posted two American flags in a quote-tweet of Vance's post about Trump's leadership on Sunday, largely taken as a sign he's still solidly on Trump's side. But the relationship between the two men is clearly fractured. It's really hard to basically accuse someone of being a pedophile and then go right back to being besties, as the All-In hosts call themselves.
But at the time of this writing, the All-In Guys haven't come together to talk about it. The last episode was published June 4 and it was an interview conducted by Friedberg with Jared Isaacman. It's an interesting thing to listen to, given the fact that Isaacman was dumped as Trump's pick to be the NASA administrator shortly after Musk's send-off from the Oval Office. The gist is that Isaacman thinks he was torpedoed by anti-Musk forces in the White House who got into Trump's ear about donations he previously made to Democrats. But Isaacman rightly pointed out that his old donations to Democrats were no secret. And it seems like after Musk and Trump's blowout, people who were anti-Musk saw their opportunity to pounce. Isaacman is a friend of Musk's and is more focused on getting to Mars rather than the Moon, much like Musk. And there are plenty of obvious assumptions that people have been making about how Musk would benefit by having his friend as the head of NASA, an agency that delivers enormous contracts to SpaceX.
While the episode with Isaacman touched on the Musk-Trump drama, it didn't provide the gabby four-way conversation All-In listeners are used to hearing between Palihapitiya, Calacanis, Friedberg, and Sacks. Or at least a three-way conversation, given the fact that Sacks has been ducking out of episodes pretty frequently since he joined the administration. Sacks seems pretty uncomfortable anytime there's criticism of anything Trump is doing. Calacanis has always been the most Democratic-curious of the bunch, even if he bent the knee like everyone else during that ridiculous episode back in June 2024. And Sacks has been snippy at Calacanis on more than one occasion over the faintest hint of dissent on Trump's tariffs.
What do these guys—'friends' of Musk and allies of Trump—have to say about the situation? Folks on social media would really like to know. And people are making lots of jokes about it. 'All-in podcast going dark this week like the news broadcast during a coup when the outcome isn't yet clear,' writer Matthew Zeitlin wrote on X.
People have also taken to asking Grok what's holding everything up. But the AI doesn't have a definitive answer.
'It's tough to say definitively why the All-In podcast skipped this week's episode, as the hosts haven't shared an official reason,' Grok responded to one user Sunday. 'The timing suggests it could be tied to the Trump-Musk feud, a hot topic they'd likely cover given their focus on tech and politics. It's a sensitive issue, so they might be taking extra time to frame it carefully.'
There are rumors floating around online that they actually recorded an episode and it's being suppressed for some reason. Who would be doing the suppressing isn't really clear, though Calacanis is most in the tank for Musk, and Sacks, being in the administration, is most supportive of Trump. There's also speculation that perhaps the hosts want to see if Musk and Trump actually reconcile in some meaningful way before they say anything.
The four men are also fully capable of just diverting attention if that's the way they want to play it. They all are pretty skilled at saying things in a confident matter-of-fact way that listeners take as gospel if they don't actually know anything about the topics being discussed. During a recent discussion about Trump getting a free $400 million airplane from the government of Qatar, Palihapitiya tried to argue that it's simply Qatari culture to give lavish gifts and you're actually being insulting if you don't take bribes like that.
'There are customs, I guess, and who am I to judge these customs, that to us might seem excessive or untoward or maybe an attempt at graft, but to them is actually a sign of deep respect,' Palihapitiya said. Then he pivoted into asking why the media wasn't talking about more important things.
Whatever happens with the next episode, people are going to be extremely disappointed if they don't address the elephant in the room. But there's nothing that's forcing them to talk about the thing that's staring them right in the face. After all, Musk accused Trump of being in the Epstein files, suggesting the billionaire oligarch was perfectly happy ignoring something morally inexcusable to get what he wanted. Allegedly. It's entirely possible the All-In guys just barely touch on the controversy in the most shallow way and move on.