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Woman accusing Hogsett aide of sexual harassment dragged out of Indianapolis council meeting
One of three women who has alleged she was sexually harassed and abused by a former top aide to Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett was forcefully removed from the June 9 Indianapolis City-County Council meeting by sheriff's deputies as she tried to relay her concerns to council members. Lauren Roberts said she took time off work and crowdfunded to raise money for a flight from her home in Denver to Indianapolis, where she lived while working for Hogsett's mayoral campaign in 2014 and 2015, so she could speak to council members. After minutes of interruptions and a spat with Council President Vop Osili about a two-minute time limit, Osili ordered sheriff's deputies to escort Roberts out of the council chambers when she refused to stop talking. Yelling at a deputy to stop touching her, Roberts was dragged forcefully out of the council meeting while dozens of her supporters chanted, "Shame!" The encounter overshadowed a meeting where the council ultimately voted not to approve the final payment to the law firm responsible for investigating the Hogsett administration's handling of the alleged abuse. Many councilors are questioning why the final report omitted mentions of late-night texts and messages that the mayor sent Roberts and another woman whose complaints launched the investigation. Roberts is one of two women who alleges she was sexually harassed or assaulted by top Hogsett aide Thomas Cook and received messages from the mayor that she said made her uncomfortable. Video captured at the meeting by reporters also depicts two sheriff's deputies pushing back Roberts' supporters, including Democratic strategist Elise Shrock, who can be heard telling a deputy to stop touching her breasts as he tries to remove her and others from the meeting who surrounded Roberts to protect her. One deputy told Roberts to "walk like a lady" before grabbing her to remove her from the room, footage shows. "Do you have a daughter?" Roberts asked a deputy as he approached her. Moments later, four deputies surrounded Roberts and pushed her out of the chambers. Several councilors said after the incident they were disturbed by Roberts' removal and took issue with Osili's strict adherence to the time limit for public comments, considering the severity of Roberts' allegations. "I've never seen anybody taken out like that," said longtime Democrat Frank Mascari, who was first elected in 2011. "I really feel terrible she was taken out that way." Democrat Jared Evans said he was "disgusted at what just transpired." "This is a local issue that people are protesting," Evans said. "Why they are speaking is because they have not had an outlet with which to speak to this council." Speaking after the meeting, Osili defended his decision to ask Roberts to leave, saying she told councilors she intended to take her time in spite of the stated time limit. Her stance went against long-standing council rules, Osili said. "When someone indicates or says that they will talk for as long as they like, it's not something that this council can stand with," Osili said. Just before the meeting, council Democrats released a statement criticizing Hogsett's leadership and calling for several reforms, including dissolving the city's human resources department and appointing an inspector-general. But the Democratic caucus of 18 members stopped short of saying Hogsett should resign, a belief voiced by two councilors — Democrat Andrew Nielsen and Democratic socialist Jesse Brown — and dozens of people who attended the June 9 council meeting. "Public trust is a sacred obligation continuously earned through principled moral leadership and responsible governance," the statement from the council's Democratic caucus said. "The mayor's past and recent conduct has compromised that trust and weakened the moral authority of the office. His actions are inconsistent with the ethical expectations we hold for ourselves and one another as stewards of this great city's future." 'We won't allow facts to be buried': Hogsett investigative report omissions raise concerns, Republicans call for additional details An outside law firm's investigative report, presented to the City-County Council's investigative committee May 29, found that Hogsett's administration acted within the law during investigations of Cook's alleged misconduct. Three women told IndyStar that Cook sexually harassed them while he was their supervisor, and one said that Cook sexually assaulted her. The report compiled by the Chicago-based law firm Fisher Phillips raised concerns about why Cook was allowed to stay on as the mayor's chief of staff for 68 days following a 2020 city investigation that found Cook had violated city policy. Days later, an IndyStar story raised questions about factual contradictions in the law firm's probe and the omission of suggestive late-night texts that Hogsett sent two of Cook's alleged victims, Caroline Ellert and Roberts. All but one councilor — Democrat Ron Gibson, who released a statement before the meeting backing the law firm's report and the mayor's leadership — ultimately voted Monday night to postpone a vote on the additional $300,000 owed to Fisher Phillips for the $450,000 investigation. "Fisher Phillips did exactly what they were hired to do: they reviewed all evidence provided within the scope of the investigative committee's authority and authored a report that included all the information they deemed relevant given their significant expertise," Gibson said in a statement. "That report was clear: Mayor Hogsett followed all applicable law and policy whenever an issue was reported to him." The council's Administrative and Finance Committee will hear public comment on the report in its next hearing on June 17 at 5:30 p.m. A few council members vowed to listen to the women's testimony during that upcoming committee meeting. "I promise, whoever the victims are, they can speak 10, 15, 20 minutes," Mascari said. The council Democrats said they would soon introduce a proposal that would, among other changes, establish an independent human resources board to replace the city's current human resources division and make the Office of Equal Opportunity an independent agency. They also called to update all anti-harassment, anti-discrimination, retaliation and non-fraternization policies. Dozens of people came to the meeting to call for Hogsett's resignation, saying his leadership and interactions with young women employees show that he presides over a problematic workplace culture. Maggie Adams-McBride, a former Hogsett administration employee who recently resigned after she said her harassment complaint against a mayoral appointee was mishandled, called on the mayor to resign, and for voters to hold Osili accountable at the ballot box for silencing Roberts. Wearing a white T-shirt with the words "Bye Hogsett" drawn with black marker, near east side resident Brianna Dines said she's believed the mayor should resign since IndyStar first reported the allegations against Cook in July 2024. Megan Alderman, a north side resident who also believes Hogsett should resign, said the mayor's texts asking if Roberts' boyfriend knew how "feisty" she is sent a chill down her spine. The messages remind her of past instances of sexual harassment she says she has experienced. "There was something so inappropriate, something so deeply wrong," Alderman said. Lawrence City Councilor Kristie Krone, who campaigned for Hogsett in 2023 before learning of the allegations against Cook, said the mayor should have pushed out his top aide as soon as an internal 2020 investigation discovered his alleged misconduct. Now, she said, Hogsett should resign so the city can work to restore its ethical standards. "It's not just politics. It's not just stupid stuff that goes on at work that you talk about at the water cooler," Krone said. "You are the leader of our city and you work for us. He's got to understand that the decisions that he makes (reflect on) who we are as a city." Email IndyStar Reporter Jordan Smith at JTsmith@ Follow him on X: @jordantsmith09 This article originally appeared on Indianapolis Star: Woman alleging sexual harassment by Hogsett aide dragged out of council meeting
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Woman accusing Hogsett aide of sexual harassment dragged out of Indianapolis council meeting
One of three women who has alleged she was sexually harassed and abused by a former top aide to Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett was forcefully removed from the June 9 Indianapolis City-County Council meeting by sheriff's deputies as she tried to relay her concerns to council members. Lauren Roberts said she took time off work and crowdfunded to raise money for a flight from her home in Denver to Indianapolis, where she lived while working for Hogsett's mayoral campaign in 2014 and 2015, so she could speak to council members. After minutes of interruptions and a spat with Council President Vop Osili about a two-minute time limit, Osili ordered a sheriff's deputy to escort Roberts out of the council chambers when she refused to stop talking. Yelling at the deputy to stop touching her, Roberts was dragged forcefully out of the council meeting while dozens of her supporters chanted, "Shame!" The encounter overshadowed a meeting where the council ultimately voted not to approve the final payment to the law firm responsible for investigating the Hogsett administration's handling of the alleged abuse. Many councilors are questioning why the final report omitted mentions of late-night texts and messages that the mayor sent Roberts and another woman whose complaints launched the investigation. Roberts is one of two women who alleges she was sexually harassed or assaulted by top Hogsett aide Thomas Cook and received messages from the mayor that she said made her uncomfortable. Video captured at the meeting by reporters also depicts two sheriff's deputies pushing back Roberts' supporters, including Democratic strategist Elise Shrock, who can be heard telling a deputy to stop touching her breasts as he tries to remove her and others from the meeting who surrounded Roberts to protect her. One deputy told Roberts to "walk like a lady" before grabbing her to remove her from the room. "Do you have a daughter?" Roberts asked the deputy as he approached her. Moments later, four deputies surrounded Roberts and pushed her out of the chambers. Several councilors said after the incident they were disturbed by Roberts' removal and took issue with Osili's strict adherence to the time limit for public comments, considering the severity of Roberts' allegations. "I've never seen anybody taken out like that," said longtime Democrat Frank Mascari, who was first elected in 2011. "I really feel terrible she was taken out that way." Democrat Jared Evans said he was "disgusted at what just transpired." "This is a local issue that people are protesting," Evans said. "Why they are speaking is because they have not had an outlet with which to speak to this council." Just before the meeting, council Democrats released a statement criticizing Hogsett's leadership and calling for several reforms, including dissolving the city's human resources department and appointing an inspector-general. But the Democratic caucus of 18 members stopped short of saying Hogsett should resign, a belief voiced by two councilors — Democrat Andrew Nielsen and Democratic socialist Jesse Brown — and dozens of people who attended the June 9 council meeting. "Public trust is a sacred obligation continuously earned through principled moral leadership and responsible governance," the statement from the council's Democratic caucus said. "The mayor's past and recent conduct has compromised that trust and weakened the moral authority of the office. His actions are inconsistent with the ethical expectations we hold for ourselves and one another as stewards of this great city's future." 'We won't allow facts to be buried': Hogsett investigative report omissions raise concerns, Republicans call for additional details An outside law firm's investigative report, presented to the City-County Council's investigative committee May 29, found that Hogsett's administration acted within the law during investigations of Cook's alleged misconduct. Three women told IndyStar that Cook sexually harassed them while he was their supervisor, and one said that Cook sexually assaulted her. The report compiled by the Chicago-based law firm Fisher Phillips raised concerns about why Cook was allowed to stay on as the mayor's chief of staff for 68 days following a 2020 city investigation that found Cook had violated city policy. Days later, an IndyStar story raised questions about factual contradictions in the law firm's probe and the omission of suggestive late-night texts that Hogsett sent two of Cook's alleged victims, Caroline Ellert and Roberts. All but one councilor — Democrat Ron Gibson, who released a statement before the meeting backing the law firm's report and the mayor's leadership — ultimately voted Monday night to postpone a vote on the additional $300,000 owed to Fisher Phillips for the $450,000 investigation. "Fisher Phillips did exactly what they were hired to do: they reviewed all evidence provided within the scope of the investigative committee's authority and authored a report that included all the information they deemed relevant given their significant expertise," Gibson said in a statement. "That report was clear: Mayor Hogsett followed all applicable law and policy whenever an issue was reported to him." The council's Administrative and Finance Committee will hear public comment on the report in its next hearing on June 17 at 5:30 p.m. A few council members vowed to listen to the women's testimony during that upcoming committee meeting. "I promise, whoever the victims are, they can speak 10, 15, 20 minutes," Mascari said. The council Democrats said they would soon introduce a proposal that would, among other changes, establish an independent human resources board to replace the city's current human resources division and make the Office of Equal Opportunity an independent agency. They also called to update all anti-harassment, anti-discrimination, retaliation and non-fraternization policies. Dozens of people came to the meeting to call for Hogsett's resignation, saying his leadership and interactions with young women employees show that he presides over a problematic workplace culture. Maggie Adams-McBride, a former Hogsett administration employee who recently resigned after she said her harassment complaint against a mayoral appointee was mishandled, called on the mayor to resign, and for voters to hold Osili accountable at the ballot box for silencing Roberts. Wearing a white T-shirt with the words "Bye Hogsett" drawn with black marker, near east side resident Brianna Dines said she's believed the mayor should resign since IndyStar first reported the allegations against Cook in July 2024. Megan Alderman, a north side resident who also believes Hogsett should resign, said the mayor's texts asking if Roberts' boyfriend knew how "feisty" she is sent a chill down her spine. The messages remind her of past instances of sexual harassment she says she has experienced. "There was something so inappropriate, something so deeply wrong," Alderman said. Lawrence City Councilor Kristine Krone, who campaigned for Hogsett in 2023 before learning of the allegations against Cook, said the mayor should have pushed out his top aide as soon as an internal 2020 investigation discovered his alleged misconduct. Now, she said, Hogsett should resign so the city can work to restore its ethical standards. "It's not just politics. It's not just stupid stuff that goes on at work that you talk about at the water cooler," Krone said. "You are the leader of our city and you work for us. He's got to understand that the decisions that he makes (reflect on) who we are as a city."
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Attorney: Hogsett probe omitted 'uncomfortable' texts from mayor, contradicted women's claims
The highly anticipated investigatory report into Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett's handling of sexual harassment and assault allegations omits key details, say the women at the heart of the complaints, including late-night and personal texts from the mayor they told investigators made them feel uncomfortable. The report by Chicago-based law firm Fisher Phillips also includes substantive discrepancies from the women's own records they handed over to investigators, which were later obtained by IndyStar. An attorney for the two women said they have been revictimized by the investigative process that appears to take the mayor's statements as fact while diminishing the statements and evidence provided by the women as claims. 'Ms. Roberts and Ms. Ellert not only experienced significant difficulty attempting to report the abuse in the first place — indeed, Ms. Roberts has never been presented with a formal channel to do so — but this investigative process has caused them further unnecessary distress and harm,' said Mark Sniderman, a lawyer representing the women. 'Regardless, they participated voluntarily because of their core commitment to supporting other survivors and changing the systems that continue to harm them. All survivors and whistleblowers deserve better.' The Indianapolis City-County Council ordered and paid for the probe independent of the mayor's office. The action followed allegations first reported by IndyStar in July 2024 from three women who say Thomas Cook, the mayor's former right-hand man and chief of staff, repeatedly harassed and mistreated them when they worked as Cook's subordinates. One of those women alleged Cook sexually assaulted her while he served as the mayor's chief of staff. More: 'I kept saying no': Women accuse top Hogsett aide of preying on subordinates for years The city paid $450,000 for the 54-page report, which revealed Hogsett allowed Cook to resign from the city in 2020 and stay on for about two months to work on economic development projects, despite a recommendation from the city's human resources director that Cook be fired for violating city policy by engaging in an inappropriate sexual relationship with another subordinate employee. The report also concluded Hogsett's administration had followed all applicable law in its handling of the women's claims. Lauren Roberts and Caroline Ellert, two of the women who allege Cook abused them, provided investigators with text messages, hours of interviews and other documentation. But they found the resulting report — which they saw for the first time after it was presented to the public on May 29 — appeared to contradict some of that evidence, according to a statement their lawyer provided to IndyStar: Where the report hinges on Hogsett's account that Ellert didn't use the words 'sexual assault' to describe her allegations against Cook in a 2023 phone call, she asserted that she did and told investigators that. Where the report says Hogsett had no knowledge of Roberts' personal life, texts she provided to investigators show otherwise. Where the report asserts Cook 'and other members' of the administration engaged in 'at times professionally inappropriate workplace conduct,' it didn't mention Roberts and Ellert told investigators Hogsett's messages to them also crossed professional boundaries. Fisher Phillips investigators declined to comment on several questions posed to them by IndyStar. The report has already caused significant political fallout: Democratic City-County Council member Andy Nielsen, who served on the investigative committee, earlier this week became the second council member to call for Hogsett to resign over what he said was a leadership failure by the mayor. Democratic socialist Jesse Brown called for Hogsett's resignation after the 2024 reporting. Cook in the past apologized for his conduct, though he didn't participate in the Fisher Phillips investigation. He has not been charged with a crime. Hogsett, meanwhile, has defended his handling of his past investigations into Cook. The mayor has called on the council to study how to implement various reforms recommended in the investigative report, including dissolving the city's HR department in favor of an independent structure and appointing an inspector general. More: A 'fraternity' culture and an 'opportunity' for self-dealing: 6 insights from Hogsett investigation Hogsett, in a statement, did not answer IndyStar's specific questions about the discrepancies alleged by Roberts and Ellert, nor did he dispute the substance of the text exchanges. Instead, he reiterated the report's findings that his actions in response to the complaints complied with the law. "My cooperation was not only unprecedented but incredibly important to me," he said, referring to the Fisher Phillips investigation. "I have a commitment to the people of this City and the employees of this enterprise to do all we can to make sure our employees feel safe in their working environment. There have been many lessons learned and I believe working together we can continue to move our City forward. I am focused on the future and the next 2 ½ years of this term." He also referred questions about the report to Fisher Phillips. The most glaring omission in the report, according to the women's lawyer, is not referring to the contents of the text message exchanges with the mayor that Roberts and Ellert provided to investigators. 'Ms. Roberts and Ms. Ellert voluntarily provided these messages to investigators and underscored their concerns about the mayor's behavior as both their boss and as a person in a position of authority,' Sniderman said. In at least one instance, those messages contradict an assertion by Hogsett in the report, in which the mayor 'stated (Roberts) never mentioned personal life concerns and that he did not know anything personally about her.' A 2015 text message exchange between Roberts and Hogsett provided to investigators and obtained by IndyStar shows the mayor knew her then-partner's name and referred to Roberts as 'feisty.' After Roberts messaged Hogsett about campaign logistics for the following morning, Hogsett told her 'Happy Valentines Day.' 'Tell (redacted) that he has to get my approval since I'm older than your Dad,' wrote Hogsett, who was 58 at the time. Roberts was 26. Roberts said 'thanks but no thanks,' asserting she didn't need his approval. Hogsett responded again: 'Does he appreciate how feisty you are?' About 20 minutes passed as she weighed how to respond. 'I would imagine so,' she replied. 'Easy now,' he said. She did not respond further. Roberts gave the exchange to investigators and told them it left her feeling 'uneasy' at the time. She resigned from the Hogsett campaign a few months later. Text messages provided to investigators by Ellert reveal the mayor reaching out unprompted late at night. She told investigators the messages made her feel "uncomfortable" and described them as "erratic." She also described being uncomfortable at the time to at least one member of the administration, according to text messages from the same evening obtained by IndyStar. At 10:15 p.m. on June 12, 2020, Hogsett texted Ellert about a years-old photo of the two of them. At the time, Ellert was 26 and was the executive director of the Marion County Democratic Party, a position that often put her at the behest of the mayor, then 63. 'Can I tell you that the picture of you and me in front of the seal (which I know you did not want to take nor did you like taking) is my absolute favorite,' Hogsett wrote. 'It appears so real, as uncomfortable as it may have made you.' He continued in a second message: 'It's almost as if we are both proud that the picture memorializes us in that particular moment, however long ago and that we are happy and proud of each other. I know you weren't but you faked it well.' Ellert didn't respond. Two days earlier, Hogsett had asked her extensively via text about her preferred poetry in another after-hours exchange that appeared to span a few hours. After initially texting Ellert about work-related logistics, he followed up about poetry: 'So, last question. Which poem do you find more meaningful and/or compelling: 'The Wasteland' or 'The Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock'?' The topic was familiar — yet unnerving — to Ellert: Cook also had showered her with poetry, including one time placing a poetry book on her desk even after she asked him to maintain appropriate boundaries at work. Hogsett proceeded to ask for her favorite poetry, saying he would read it that night. The mayor then sent repeated messages asking, in various ways, for Ellert's advice on an unspecified issue. In one, he said, 'I care what you think?' 'This entire thing is completely frackup. Advise me how to deliver,' he said in another text. The next: 'I am asking.' The next: 'I need your advice. Thanks' At that point, Ellert asks what he's talking about. Hogsett responded, 'Like what I am going through now?' 'It is only 9am,' he wrote, then correcting the time to "9pm" in a follow-up message. 'So tell me what I should do.' She asked again what he needs advice on. Hogsett replied, 'about all things.' In several follow up messages, the mayor implored Ellert to respond, saying, "Talk to me," "Please," and 'Hello: it's only 9:36pm' The final investigatory report by Fisher Phillips makes no mentions of the messages — or the concerns the young women had shared about those communications with investigators — even though it contains a section on workplace culture in the Hogsett administration and notes Cook "and others" acted unprofessionally around women and other employees. Ellert and Roberts' lawyer said the report "fails to account for all of the evidence that my clients provided and misses the full scope and import of the relevant issues." About three years later, having secured a job away from the Hogsett administration and outside Cook's 'perceived sphere of influence,' as the report notes, Ellert made the decision to report her sexual harassment and assault allegations against Cook to Hogsett. She relayed her testimony in a September 2023 phone call with Hogsett and the city-county's corporation counsel. The final report asserts as fact, twice, that Ellert did not use the term 'sexual assault' during that call. "While (Ellert) did not use terms 'sexual assault' or 'rape,' Mayor Hogsett understood what (Ellert) had described (i.e., non-consensual sex), though she did not use the specific term sexual assault," the report reads. However, she and her lawyer assert she did use that term in the phone call, and they told this to Fisher Phillips investigators. They confirmed this characterization in follow-up correspondence with investigators obtained by IndyStar. 'The report consistently construes the mayor's statements as facts and my clients' statements as mere claims,' Sniderman said. "The mayor claimed that she did not use the term 'sexual assault' during her initial conversation with him in 2023 concerning Mr. Cook's conduct. However, Ms. Ellert clearly told investigators otherwise." Another point of contention was who was really responsible for Roberts as an employee when she worked for the Hogsett campaign more than a decade ago. The Fisher Phillips report asserts Roberts was actually an employee of the Indiana Democratic Party while working for the Hogsett campaign. That contradicts a memorandum of understanding Hogsett signed in 2014 which Roberts provided to investigators, as well as an email from a party attorney. The MOU Hogsett signed when Roberts took a job with his campaign clearly states Roberts is "employed by the Committee," referring to the campaign, and that the state party "is not my employer." It was an agreement spelling out the party's role as a payroll processor. The email, from attorney Karen Celestino-Horseman to Roberts in 2019, states Roberts was 'not employed by the state party' but the party merely handled payroll, as it does for other campaign staff. Roberts has previously asserted that neither the party nor the campaign wanted to take responsibility for handling her harassment case. More: 'No one wanted the ball': Women who experienced harassment say Democrats' response lacked She said she fears complaints made by campaign workers will continue to fall through the cracks if that doesn't change. The women's attorney, Sniderman, said Ellert and Roberts are speaking out in order to advocate for themselves and others who have been "targeted by workplace abuse." "Their goal remains the same," he said. "To help end these cycles of abuse." Contact senior government accountability reporter Hayleigh Colombo at hcolombo@ Contact IndyStar state government and politics reporter Kayla Dwyer at kdwyer@ or follow her on X@kayla_dwyer17. Sign up for our free weekly politics newsletter, Checks & Balances, by IndyStar political and government reporters. This article originally appeared on Indianapolis Star: Hogsett investigation: Late-night texts from mayor, key details left out
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5 days ago
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Attorney: Hogsett probe omitted 'uncomfortable' texts from mayor, contradicted women's claims
The highly anticipated investigatory report into Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett's handling of sexual harassment and assault allegations omits key details, say the women at the heart of the complaints, including late-night and personal texts from the mayor they told investigators made them feel uncomfortable. The report by Chicago-based law firm Fisher Phillips also includes substantive discrepancies from the women's own records they handed over to investigators, which were later obtained by IndyStar. An attorney for the two women said they have been revictimized by the investigative process that appears to take the mayor's statements as fact while diminishing the statements and evidence provided by the women as claims. 'Ms. Roberts and Ms. Ellert not only experienced significant difficulty attempting to report the abuse in the first place — indeed, Ms. Roberts has never been presented with a formal channel to do so — but this investigative process has caused them further unnecessary distress and harm,' said Mark Sniderman, a lawyer representing the women. 'Regardless, they participated voluntarily because of their core commitment to supporting other survivors and changing the systems that continue to harm them. All survivors and whistleblowers deserve better.' The Indianapolis City-County Council ordered and paid for the probe independent of the mayor's office. The action followed allegations first reported by IndyStar in July 2024 from three women who say Thomas Cook, the mayor's former right-hand man and chief of staff, repeatedly harassed and mistreated them when they worked as Cook's subordinates. One of those women alleged Cook sexually assaulted her while he served as the mayor's chief of staff. More: 'I kept saying no': Women accuse top Hogsett aide of preying on subordinates for years The city paid $450,000 for the 54-page report, which revealed Hogsett allowed Cook to resign from the city in 2020 and stay on for about two months to work on economic development projects, despite a recommendation from the city's human resources director that Cook be fired for violating city policy by engaging in an inappropriate sexual relationship with another subordinate employee. The report also concluded Hogsett's administration had followed all applicable law in its handling of the women's claims. Lauren Roberts and Caroline Ellert, two of the women who allege Cook abused them, provided investigators with text messages, hours of interviews and other documentation. But they found the resulting report — which they saw for the first time after it was presented to the public on May 29 — appeared to contradict some of that evidence, according to a statement their lawyer provided to IndyStar: Fisher Phillips investigators declined to comment on several questions posed to them by IndyStar. The report has already caused significant political fallout: Democratic City-County Council member Andy Nielsen, who served on the investigative committee, earlier this week became the second council member to call for Hogsett to resign over what he said was a leadership failure by the mayor. Democratic socialist Jesse Brown called for Hogsett's resignation after the 2024 reporting. Cook in the past apologized for his conduct, though he didn't participate in the Fisher Phillips investigation. He has not been charged with a crime. Hogsett, meanwhile, has defended his handling of his past investigations into Cook. The mayor has called on the council to study how to implement various reforms recommended in the investigative report, including dissolving the city's HR department in favor of an independent structure and appointing an inspector general. More: A 'fraternity' culture and an 'opportunity' for self-dealing: 6 insights from Hogsett investigation Hogsett, in a statement, did not answer IndyStar's specific questions about the discrepancies alleged by Roberts and Ellert, nor did he dispute the substance of the text exchanges. Instead, he reiterated the report's findings that his actions in response to the complaints complied with the law. "My cooperation was not only unprecedented but incredibly important to me," he said, referring to the Fisher Phillips investigation. "I have a commitment to the people of this City and the employees of this enterprise to do all we can to make sure our employees feel safe in their working environment. There have been many lessons learned and I believe working together we can continue to move our City forward. I am focused on the future and the next 2 ½ years of this term." He also referred questions about the report to Fisher Phillips. The most glaring omission in the report, according to the women's lawyer, is not referring to the contents of the text message exchanges with the mayor that Roberts and Ellert provided to investigators. 'Ms. Roberts and Ms. Ellert voluntarily provided these messages to investigators and underscored their concerns about the mayor's behavior as both their boss and as a person in a position of authority,' Sniderman said. In at least one instance, those messages contradict an assertion by Hogsett in the report, in which the mayor 'stated (Roberts) never mentioned personal life concerns and that he did not know anything personally about her.' A 2015 text message exchange between Roberts and Hogsett provided to investigators and obtained by IndyStar shows the mayor knew her then-partner's name and referred to Roberts as 'feisty.' After Roberts messaged Hogsett about campaign logistics for the following morning, Hogsett told her 'Happy Valentines Day.' 'Tell (redacted) that he has to get my approval since I'm older than your Dad,' wrote Hogsett, who was 58 at the time. Roberts was 26. Roberts said 'thanks but no thanks,' asserting she didn't need his approval. Hogsett responded again: 'Does he appreciate how feisty you are?' About 20 minutes passed as she weighed how to respond. 'I would imagine so,' she replied. 'Easy now,' he said. She did not respond further. Roberts gave the exchange to investigators and told them it left her feeling 'uneasy' at the time. She resigned from the Hogsett campaign a few months later. Text messages provided to investigators by Ellert reveal the mayor reaching out unprompted late at night. She told investigators the messages made her feel "uncomfortable" and described them as "erratic." She also described being uncomfortable at the time to at least one member of the administration, according to text messages from the same evening obtained by IndyStar. At 10:15 p.m. on June 12, 2020, Hogsett texted Ellert about a years-old photo of the two of them. At the time, Ellert was 26 and was the executive director of the Marion County Democratic Party, a position that often put her at the behest of the mayor, then 63. 'Can I tell you that the picture of you and me in front of the seal (which I know you did not want to take nor did you like taking) is my absolute favorite,' Hogsett wrote. 'It appears so real, as uncomfortable as it may have made you.' He continued in a second message: 'It's almost as if we are both proud that the picture memorializes us in that particular moment, however long ago and that we are happy and proud of each other. I know you weren't but you faked it well.' Ellert didn't respond. Two days earlier, Hogsett had asked her extensively via text about her preferred poetry in another after-hours exchange that appeared to span a few hours. After initially texting Ellert about work-related logistics, he followed up about poetry: 'So, last question. Which poem do you find more meaningful and/or compelling: 'The Wasteland' or 'The Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock'?' The topic was familiar — yet unnerving — to Ellert: Cook also had showered her with poetry, including one time placing a poetry book on her desk even after she asked him to maintain appropriate boundaries at work. Hogsett proceeded to ask for her favorite poetry, saying he would read it that night. The mayor then sent repeated messages asking, in various ways, for Ellert's advice on an unspecified issue. In one, he said, 'I care what you think?' 'This entire thing is completely frackup. Advise me how to deliver,' he said in another text. The next: 'I am asking.' The next: 'I need your advice. Thanks' At that point, Ellert asks what he's talking about. Hogsett responded, 'Like what I am going through now?' 'It is only 9am,' he wrote, then correcting the time to "9pm" in a follow-up message. 'So tell me what I should do.' She asked again what he needs advice on. Hogsett replied, 'about all things.' In several follow up messages, the mayor implored Ellert to respond, saying, "Talk to me," "Please," and 'Hello: it's only 9:36pm' The final investigatory report by Fisher Phillips makes no mentions of the messages — or the concerns the young women had shared about those communications with investigators — even though it contains a section on workplace culture in the Hogsett administration and notes Cook "and others" acted unprofessionally around women and other employees. Ellert and Roberts' lawyer said the report "fails to account for all of the evidence that my clients provided and misses the full scope and import of the relevant issues." About three years later, having secured a job away from the Hogsett administration and outside Cook's 'perceived sphere of influence,' as the report notes, Ellert made the decision to report her sexual harassment and assault allegations against Cook to Hogsett. She relayed her testimony in a September 2023 phone call with Hogsett and the city-county's corporation counsel. The final report asserts as fact, twice, that Ellert did not use the term 'sexual assault' during that call. "While (Ellert) did not use terms 'sexual assault' or 'rape,' Mayor Hogsett understood what (Ellert) had described (i.e., non-consensual sex), though she did not use the specific term sexual assault," the report reads. However, she and her lawyer assert she did use that term in the phone call, and they told this to Fisher Phillips investigators. They confirmed this characterization in follow-up correspondence with investigators obtained by IndyStar. 'The report consistently construes the mayor's statements as facts and my clients' statements as mere claims,' Sniderman said. "The mayor claimed that she did not use the term 'sexual assault' during her initial conversation with him in 2023 concerning Mr. Cook's conduct. However, Ms. Ellert clearly told investigators otherwise." Another point of contention was who was really responsible for Roberts as an employee when she worked for the Hogsett campaign more than a decade ago. The Fisher Phillips report asserts Roberts was actually an employee of the Indiana Democratic Party while working for the Hogsett campaign. That contradicts a memorandum of understanding Hogsett signed in 2014 which Roberts provided to investigators, as well as an email from a party attorney. The MOU Hogsett signed when Roberts took a job with his campaign clearly states Roberts is "employed by the Committee," referring to the campaign, and that the state party "is not my employer." It was an agreement spelling out the party's role as a payroll processor. The email, from attorney Karen Celestino-Horseman to Roberts in 2019, states Roberts was 'not employed by the state party' but the party merely handled payroll, as it does for other campaign staff. Roberts has previously asserted that neither the party nor the campaign wanted to take responsibility for handling her harassment case. More: 'No one wanted the ball': Women who experienced harassment say Democrats' response lacked She said she fears complaints made by campaign workers will continue to fall through the cracks if that doesn't change. The women's attorney, Sniderman, said Ellert and Roberts are speaking out in order to advocate for themselves and others who have been "targeted by workplace abuse." "Their goal remains the same," he said. "To help end these cycles of abuse." Contact senior government accountability reporter Hayleigh Colombo at hcolombo@ Contact IndyStar state government and politics reporter Kayla Dwyer at kdwyer@ or follow her on X@kayla_dwyer17.
Indianapolis Star
02-06-2025
- Politics
- Indianapolis Star
'Hogsett must resign': Council Democrat calls on mayor to step down after investigation
A Democratic member of the Indianapolis City-County Council's investigative committee is calling for Mayor Joe Hogsett to resign in the wake of a report by a private law firm that he said showed "poor leadership" by the mayor in handling accusations of his former top aide's alleged harassment against subordinates. Council member Andy Nielsen, who represents District 14, said in a statement June 2 that while Hogsett and his administration complied with the law and city policy, the mayor's "repeated decisions to retain (former chief of staff Thomas) Cook demonstrated a profound lack of judgement and disregard for fundamental ethics." IndyStar reported in 2024 that three women who served as Cook's subordinates had accused him of sexual harassment and assault over a period of about a decade, with the first allegations occurring in 2014 during Hogsett's first mayoral campaign. After forcing Cook to resign as chief of staff in 2020 for a violation of city policy stemming from another relationship with a subordinate employee, the mayor brought him back to help lead his 2023 reelection campaign. The investigative report released May 29 found Cook was allowed to remain in his position as chief of staff for 68 days in 2020 and work on economic development projects, after HR found he violated city policy. "These decisions knowingly put people in harm's way and eroded trust in institutions that we should and must hold to the highest standards," Nielsen said in a statement posted on social media. "I am incredibly disappointed by this poor leadership." More: A 'fraternity' culture and an 'opportunity' for self-dealing: 6 insights from Hogsett investigation Nielsen became the second member of the 25-member City-County Council to call for Hogsett's resignation with this statement. Jesse Brown, the council's lone Democratic socialist, called for Hogsett to resign last year following IndyStar's 2024 reporting about Cook. Hogsett did not immediately respond to a request for comment but last week defended his handling of the Cook situation, stating that "the "findings are clear that the earlier investigations and resulting sanctions were handled appropriately and confidentially."
