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30-05-2025
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In college playoff debate, the Arizona St coach with everything to lose says he'll take his chances
FILE - Ariona State head coach Kenny Dillingham stands on the sideline during the first half of the Big 12 Conference championship NCAA college football game against Iowa State in Arlington, Texas, Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/LM Otero, File) FILE - Ariona State head coach Kenny Dillingham stands on the sideline during the first half of the Big 12 Conference championship NCAA college football game against Iowa State in Arlington, Texas, Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/LM Otero, File) FILE - Ariona State head coach Kenny Dillingham stands on the sideline during the first half of the Big 12 Conference championship NCAA college football game against Iowa State in Arlington, Texas, Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/LM Otero, File) When it comes to the future of the College Football Playoff, there were as many opinions as there were coaches on hand at the Southeastern Conference and Big 12 meetings in Florida this week. Perhaps the most eye-opening came from some of those with the most to lose — Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State and Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark. Advertisement The consensus at their meetings, which wrapped up in Orlando on Friday, was a preference for a format, starting in 2026, that would include 16 teams — five of them automatic bids to the highest-rated conference champions and the other 11 awarded as at-large spots. That would be paired with a straight-seeding model that has already been adopted for next season's playoff. Had last season's playoff used straight seeding, the Big 12 champion Sun Devils would have been seeded 11th, not fourth. Instead of a bye, they would have been stuck with a first-round road game at eventual national champion Ohio State. But Dillingham said the change for the upcoming season is fine with him, and if the increasingly popular 5-11 model takes hold for 2026, that's fine, too. 'Last season, maybe we didn't earn the right to be the fourth seed. Maybe we earned the right to be the eighth seed,' said the coach, whose team was ranked 12th, but still received the fourth seed and a first-round bye before losing to Texas 39-31. 'I believe you earn your way to those seeds, so I'm also in support of the 5-plus-11, that same thought process.' Advertisement The SEC and Big Ten will decide the format for the playoff starting in 2026, which is when ESPN's new $7.8 billion contract kicks in. Yormark said the SEC and Big Ten 'have a great responsibility that goes with it to do what's right for college football and not to do anything that just benefits two conferences. And I have a lot of faith in the process.' The 5-11 system could be less advantageous for the Big 12, which would get two automatic bids under the other system being floated, the 4-4-2-2-1 model in which the SEC and Big Ten each would receive four and the Big 12 and ACC would get two. The best argument for that plan might have come from Florida AD Scott Stricklin at the SEC meetings: 'I think anything we can do to make the postseason more objective and less subjective is going to be better,' he said, pointing to the notion that the more at-large berths there are, the more the preferences of the selection committee come into play. Advertisement Yormark said the Big 12 would be willing to take its chances with more at-large bids. 'We want to earn it on the field,' Yormark said. 'The 5-11 might not be ideal for the conference, but it's good for college football, and it's what's fair.' Dillingham was on the same page. 'Every year is a new year, and you never know who's going to be good in college football, especially with the volume going through the (transfer) portal,' he said. 'So anything that creates an open platform for teams like our guys last year to prove that they do belong, I'm in support of.' Expanded March Madness NCAA President Charlie Baker made his most definitive statement yet about expanding the men's basketball tournament from its current 68 teams to 72 or 76, saying it's a decision that needs to come in the next few months. Advertisement SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey has long been in favor of that expansion, so long as it's done a certain way. His model would bring more at-large teams – presumably from big conferences -- into the main draw of 64. It would push more automatic qualifiers from weaker leagues into what would be an increased number of so-called 'play-in' games, what's known now as the First Four. He used the example of North Carolina State in 2024 as a team that was seeded 11th (the Wolfpack didn't have to play a play-in game but often an 11th seed does) and made the Final Four. 'I don't think all the 10- and 11-type seeds should just be placed in the First Four,' Sankey said at the SEC meetings in the Florida Panhandle. 'That's my opinion. You could go ask my colleagues in the AQ conferences what should happen and I'm certain they'd want the split to continue.' Walk-on walk-outs Advertisement A few SEC coaches hedged when asked what they were telling walk-on football players who were in jeopardy of losing their roster spots under terms of the multibillion-dollar lawsuit settlement that is hung up on the issue of roster limits. 'Certainly it's challenging for us to manage our roster,' Texas A&M coach Mike Elko said. 'But it's more challenging for a 19-year-old to not know what his place on a football team is as we head into the summer.' Under terms of a reworked agreement, football rosters would be limited to 105 players, all of whom would be eligible for scholarships, though walk-on players who had roster spots before would not count against the limit. Kansas coach Lance Leipold conceded that many decisions had already been made regardless of how the settlement works out. Indeed, some of his walk-ons had already left, as the Jayhawks made preparations for the upcoming season with the expectation the settlement would be approved. Advertisement 'When a walk-on maybe decides that now that their roster spot might be in jeopardy, he has a chance to go somewhere else where he may see more real playing time in games, you got to be happy for him," he said. "I guess we all wish we had a little bit more clarity sooner.' One window too many From locker rooms to the commissioner's office, the Big 12 is unified in its stance on transfer portal timing. Rather than two transfer windows, including a 20-day slot with the college football playoff in sight in December, the Big 12 is pushing for one window in January. 'As coaches, we unanimously support one portal window, and that is in January,' Leipold said. 'You're signing most of your guys in December. You know what your roster will be like to start the second semester, and you have the opportunity to work and develop and build those relationships and evaluate your team and get ready for the next season.' Advertisement Coaches can find solace in knowing their commissioner will fight for the cause. Adjusting the portal windows is one of many items on the list of topics Yormark will discuss with fellow Power Four commissioners in the coming weeks. 'We discussed the portal window with the coaches,' Yormark said. 'We know what their preference is. We'll discuss that amongst the Power Four commissioners here shortly, but I advocate for their position. They want a January portal, and we'll discuss that again with our peers and see where we can land this thing.' The Power Four wants more There are plenty of ongoing disputes between the NCAA's most dominant conferences, but a desire for more control isn't one of them. Rumors of the SEC separating from the NCAA may have gained momentum, but Sankey is willing to settle for more autonomy, at least for now. Advertisement Instead of the original 65%, Sankey argued that the Power Four conferences owning 68% of the vote in the proposed NCAA governance model is more optimal. Yormark was on the same page. 'There is an appetite and desire to have a little bit more autonomy, a little bit more control in decision-making,' Yormark said. 'In what's currently being discussed, I think we will land in a very desirable place. We understand the importance of being part of the institution and also being very collegial with our peers. But at the same time, we do feel that when it comes to control and autonomy, that there needs to be a little bit of a shift to the A4, at least more so than what currently exists.' By the sounds of it, the Power Four may have the NCAA president on their side. 'Charlie Baker has been terrific throughout the process. He has listened to all the key stakeholder groups, but he does recognize that not everyone looks the same, operates the same, and there needs to be a bit of an adjustment and a modernization of what's being done there in the NCAA as a whole is, like you said, but also as it relates to the power four," Yormark said. ___ Carey reported from Orlando, Fla., Pells from Miramar Beach, Fla. ___ AP college sports:
Toronto Sun
29-05-2025
- Sport
- Toronto Sun
Lucas Glover says players can skirt driver test but USGA chief says that isn't the case
Published May 29, 2025 • 2 minute read Lucas Glover hits off the ninth tee during the first round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Thursday, May 22, 2025. (AP Photo/LM Otero) DUBLIN, Ohio — Former U.S. Open champion Lucas Glover says players have found a way to beat the system by handing the USGA a backup driver if they get picked for random testing on the thinness of the clubface. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. THIS CONTENT IS RESERVED FOR SUBSCRIBERS ONLY Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada. Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account. Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on. Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists. Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists. Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword. SUBSCRIBE TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada. Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account. Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on. Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists. Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists. Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword. REGISTER / SIGN IN TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience. Access articles from across Canada with one account. Share your thoughts and join the conversation in the comments. Enjoy additional articles per month. Get email updates from your favourite authors. THIS ARTICLE IS FREE TO READ REGISTER TO UNLOCK. Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience. Access articles from across Canada with one account Share your thoughts and join the conversation in the comments Enjoy additional articles per month Get email updates from your favourite authors Don't have an account? Create Account That didn't bother Mike Whan, the CEO of the USGA, who says it's not that easy. 'We keep serial numbers of the driver that were given us, and 90% of the drivers that were given us in those practice facilities when we test are played on the first tee,' Whan said Tuesday ahead of the U.S. Women's Open in Wisconsin. 'And we expect 10% of players to be making changes, anyway. 'I don't think that's a real concern for us.' Glover got some attention on his SiriusXM PGA Tour Radio show when he said the test is not stringent enough because only about 30 drivers are randomly selected for testing. And he mentioned another loophole. 'I've been trying to think all morning and all day how to say this without sounding like it's going to sound, but most guys don't give them their real driver, anyway,' Glover said when asked why the USGA didn't just test drivers of every player. 'They give them their backup just in case. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. 'I know a lot of guys, they keep two drivers in their bag just in case,' he said. ''Hey, oh, yeah, it's this one. It's this one right here. Yeah, do this, test this one.'' The driver testing has been going on for years because after hundreds of swings, the face gets too thin for USGA standards without the players or manufacturers being aware. Rory McIlroy's driver failed the test at the PGA Championship and he had to use a backup. Scottie Scheffler said his driver also was tested and didn't pass, though he knew it was getting close. He went on to win the PGA Championship. Whan said test results are green (pass), yellow (getting close) and red (fail). They are kept confidential to prevent a routine matter from getting too much attention, as was the case at Quail Hollow. 'If they got a yellow, they start preparing for a backup driver or switch,' Whan said. 'It seemed like a big week to everybody else. But for us, it was a pretty standard week.' Toronto & GTA Sunshine Girls Sunshine Girls Tennis NFL
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29-05-2025
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PGA Tour nixes starting strokes advantage for leaders at championship
The primary goal was to get rid of the staggered start that none of the players seemed to like Published May 29, 2025 • 3 minute read Scottie Scheffler watches his tee shot on the ninth hole during the final round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Sunday, May 25, 2025. Photo by LM Otero / AP DUBLIN, Ohio — The PGA Tour voted to overhaul the season-ending Tour Championship so that all 30 players start from scratch and the low score on a tougher East Lake course wins the FedEx Cup. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. THIS CONTENT IS RESERVED FOR SUBSCRIBERS ONLY Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada. Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account. Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on. Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists. Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists. Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword. SUBSCRIBE TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada. Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account. Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on. Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists. Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists. Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword. REGISTER / SIGN IN TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience. Access articles from across Canada with one account. Share your thoughts and join the conversation in the comments. Enjoy additional articles per month. Get email updates from your favourite authors. THIS ARTICLE IS FREE TO READ REGISTER TO UNLOCK. Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience. Access articles from across Canada with one account Share your thoughts and join the conversation in the comments Enjoy additional articles per month Get email updates from your favourite authors Don't have an account? Create Account The change is effective this year, with more tweaks still in the works. The announcement Tuesday evening followed a PGA Tour board vote and a meeting of the Player Advisory Council that has been trying for more than six months to find a solution. The primary goal was to get rid of the staggered start that none of the players seemed to like. Since 2019, the leader of the FedEx Cup going to East Lake started at 10-under par before the tournament even began. That gave him a two-shot lead over the No. 2 player, and a staggered from there until the last five players who qualified for the 30-man field were at even par. Now it will effectively be a 72-hole shootout — everyone starts at even par, just like any other tournament — with FedEx Cup going to the winner. Jon McCarthy has something for every golfer, with a notably Canadian slant. By signing up you consent to receive the above newsletter from Postmedia Network Inc. Please try again This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. 'We want the Tour Championship to be the hardest tournament to qualify for and the FedEx Cup trophy the most difficult to win,' said Scottie Scheffler, the No. 1 player in the world who won his first FedEx Cup title last year. He serves on the PAC. 'Shifting the Tour Championship to a more straight-up format with a tougher course setup makes it easier for fans to follow and provides a more challenging test for players — which brings out the best competition.' Still to be announced is the prize fund. Scheffler received a $25 million bonus for winning the FedEx Cup last year. The tour indicated the bonus money would be distributed more evenly to account for all 30 players — regardless of their position in the standings — have the same chance of winning. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. Scheffler won last year at 30-under par for a four-shot victory over Collin Morikawa. Scheffler, the No. 1 seed the last three years, had a raw total of 264. Morikawa shot 262, but he was the No. 7 seed and thus gave Scheffler a six-shot head start. The tour said it leaned on feedback from its fans to help determine what would make the most compelling finale. 'The Player Advisory Council led a thorough process to respond to what our fans are asking for: The most competitive golf in the world, played for the highest stakes, in the most straightforward and engaging format,' PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan said. The format revealed Tuesday is similar to the LPGA's season finale, which features a 60-player field and offers $4 million to the winner over 72 holes. This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below. Key components of the Tour Championship change is eliminating the starting strokes. That should make Xander Schauffele happy. Twice he had the low score over 72 holes (one time a tie) and watched someone else leave with the trophy. More difficult to define is setting up East Lake as difficult as possible. The tour said fans wanted to see scores closer to par, and the rules officials will be in charge of adjusting the setup to encourage more risk-and-reward moments. Most curious about the announcement was the objective to make the Tour Championship the hardest to reach. It already is difficult to finish among the top 30, and that will be the field size this year when it is held on Aug. 21-24. The PAC is studying qualifications for future years that could include a smaller field and a greater reward for how players perform from the season opener in Hawaii through the BMW Championship, which precedes East Lake. Tour official since last August had been kicking around the idea of match play, which rarely performs well on television and in person with only two players competing at the end. They also were trying to create brackets to mimic other sports. Ultimately, they settled on 72 holes of stroke player on a tougher golf course with everyone knowing what's at stake. Sunshine Girls Toronto & GTA Sunshine Girls Columnists Tennis
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27-05-2025
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FedEx Cup finale at East Lake goes to a 72-hole shootout where everyone starts from scratch
Scottie Scheffler watches his tee shot on the ninth hole during the final round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Sunday, May 25, 2025. (AP Photo/LM Otero) DUBLIN, Ohio (AP) — The PGA Tour voted to overhaul the season-ending Tour Championship so that all 30 players start from scratch and the low score on a tougher East Lake course wins the FedEx Cup. The change is effective this year, with more tweaks still in the works. The announcement Tuesday evening followed a PGA Tour board vote and a meeting of the Player Advisory Council that has been trying for more than six months to find a solution. Advertisement The primary goal was to get rid of the staggered start that none of the players seemed to like. Since 2019, the leader of the FedEx Cup going to East Lake started at 10-under par before the tournament even began. That gave him a two-shot lead over the No. 2 player, and a staggered from there until the last five players who qualified for the 30-man field were at even par. Now it will effectively be a 72-hole shootout — everyone starts at even par, just like any other tournament — with FedEx Cup going to the winner. Still to be announced is the prize fund. Scottie Scheffler received a $25 million bonus for winning the FedEx Cup last year. The tour indicated the bonus money would be distributed more evenly to account for all 30 players — regardless of their position — have the same chance of winning. Another key to the changes is East Lake, with players wanting the strongest test possible to decide the FedEx Cup champion. ___ AP golf:
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27-05-2025
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Glover says players can skirt the driver test. USGA chief says that isn't the case
FILE - Luke Clanton hits on the third hole during the final round of the Cognizant Classic golf tournament, Sunday, March 2, 2025, in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. (AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell, File) Will Zalatoris lines up a putt on the 10th hole during the second round of the PGA Championship golf tournament at the Quail Hollow Club, Friday, May 16, 2025, in Charlotte, N.C. (AP Photo/George Walker IV) Lucas Glover hits off the ninth tee during the first round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Thursday, May 22, 2025. (AP Photo/LM Otero) Lucas Glover hits off the ninth tee during the first round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Thursday, May 22, 2025. (AP Photo/LM Otero) FILE - Luke Clanton hits on the third hole during the final round of the Cognizant Classic golf tournament, Sunday, March 2, 2025, in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. (AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell, File) Will Zalatoris lines up a putt on the 10th hole during the second round of the PGA Championship golf tournament at the Quail Hollow Club, Friday, May 16, 2025, in Charlotte, N.C. (AP Photo/George Walker IV) Lucas Glover hits off the ninth tee during the first round of the Charles Schwab Challenge golf tournament at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, Texas, Thursday, May 22, 2025. (AP Photo/LM Otero) DUBLIN, Ohio (AP) — Former U.S. Open champion Lucas Glover says players have found a way to beat the system by handing the USGA a backup driver if they get picked for random testing on the thinness of the clubface. That didn't bother Mike Whan, the CEO of the USGA, who says it's not that easy. Advertisement 'We keep serial numbers of the driver that were given us, and 90% of the drivers that were given us in those practice facilities when we test are played on the first tee,' Whan said Tuesday ahead of the U.S. Women's Open in Wisconsin. 'And we expect 10% of players to be making changes, anyway. 'I don't think that's a real concern for us.' Glover got some attention on his SiriusXM PGA Tour Radio show when he said the test is not stringent enough because only about 30 drivers are randomly selected for testing. And he mentioned another loophole. 'I've been trying to think all morning and all day how to say this without sounding like it's going to sound, but most guys don't give them their real driver, anyway,' Glover said when asked why the USGA didn't just test drivers of every player. 'They give them their backup just in case. Advertisement 'I know a lot of guys, they keep two drivers in their bag just in case,' he said. "'Hey, oh, yeah, it's this one. It's this one right here. Yeah, do this, test this one.'' The driver testing has been going on for years because after hundreds of swings, the face gets too thin for USGA standards without the players or manufacturers being aware. Rory McIlroy's driver failed the test at the PGA Championship and he had to use a backup. Scottie Scheffler said his driver also was tested and didn't pass, though he knew it was getting close. He went on to win the PGA Championship. Whan said test results are green (pass), yellow (getting close) and red (fail). They are kept confidential to prevent a routine matter from getting too much attention, as was the case at Quail Hollow. Advertisement 'If they got a yellow, they start preparing for a backup driver or switch,' Whan said. 'It seemed like a big week to everybody else. But for us, it was a pretty standard week.' On the shelf For the second time in three years, Will Zalatoris is missing the heart of the PGA Tour season because of back surgery. Zalatoris, 28, posted a message on Instagram on Monday saying that instability and discomfort in his back this spring kept getting worse, and tests revealed another round of herniated discs. He had surgery on Friday and said he would be out until the fall. 'I'm happy to say I woke up feeling good and excited about my long-term health,' Zalatoris said. 'Time to focus on my recovery and get back after it.' Advertisement He hit his peak in 2022 when he lost in a playoff at the PGA Championship, missed a 15-foot putt that would have forced a playoff at the U.S. Open and won a playoff in the PGA Tour playoffs opener. He withdrew the following week at the BMW Championship with back pain (and missed the Presidents Cup), and had his first surgery in 2023. Zalatoris reached No. 7 in the world after 2022. He now is at No. 84. PGA Tour University The PGA Tour is adding three players straight out of college from the PGA Tour University ranking, a program aimed at creating a quicker path from college to the pros. A fourth player, Auburn sophomore Jackson Koivun, also earned a PGA Tour card through the accelerated program for underclassmen. Koivun told Golf Digest he would defer membership and return for his junior year at Auburn. Advertisement Koivun picked up his final point by finishing in the top 10 at the NCAA championship on Monday. He turned 20 last week, making him the youngest player to get a card through the PGA Tour University Accelerated program. North Carolina senior David Ford finished atop the PGA Tour University ranking and will have PGA Tour membership the rest of the year. Florida State junior Luke Clanton earned enough points through the accelerated program and will make his pro debut next week in the Canadian Open. Vanderbilt senior Gordon Sargent secured his PGA Tour card in October 2023 and stayed in school. The biggest move Monday came from UCLA senior Pablo Ereno. He tied for sixth in the NCAA championship — the best finish by a Bruins player since Patrick Cantlay tied for fourth in 2012 — and moved from No. 12 to No. 10 in the ranking. That gives him Korn Ferry Tour membership the rest of the year, instead of a spot on PGA Tour Americas. Advertisement Out of the mouths of babes Incoming LPGA Commissioner Craig Kessler learned how different people have different expectations, all because of a conversation with his three young sons. Kessler said he and wife Nicole sat down with their boys — ages 9, 7 and 5 — to explain that he had been offered the job as LPGA commissioner and he wanted their thoughts. He said the oldest asked a dozen qualifying questions to make sure this was the right fit. 'Our 7-year-old said, 'But Dad, you're a boy and I'm a boy, so why don't you just do boy sports?'' Kessler said. 'Which by the way, provided the most incredible teaching moment and we shared with them, 'Look if all we did in life were things that looked like us, that sounded like us, we're sort of missing the plot and leaving so much richness in life on the table.'' Advertisement Leave it to the 5-year-old to get right to the point. Kessler had told the boys they would take them out of school on occasion so they could join their parents on tour. That included stops in Europe and Asia. 'Our 5-year-old looked at me and said, 'But Dad, do they sell chocolate milk in Asia?' 'It just goes to show you that different stakeholders have different concerns, and it's certainly no different in the Kessler family.' Divots The Korn Ferry Tour will have a new tournament in South Carolina next year. The Colonial Life Charity Classic will be May 14-17 at The Woodcreek Club near Columbia. It will be the second Korn Ferry Tour event in South Carolina, which also has two PGA Tour stops. ... The Senior PGA Championship is moving to The Concession Golf Club in Bradenton, Florida, for the next three years starting in 2026. The senior major will be played April 16-19, getting it off the crowded May calendar. It was held this year after the PGA Championship and was the second straight week of a PGA Tour Champions major. ... Ben Griffin became the first player in 10 years to make eagle on the first hole of the final round and go on to win. Griffin won the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial. ... Colonial runner-up Matti Schmid and Bud Cauley, who closed with a 67 to finish third, earned spots in the Memorial this week. Advertisement Stat of the week Max Homa was No. 10 in the world when he played the Memorial last year. He arrived at Muirfield Village this year at No. 87. Final word 'I can't answer your question because I don't like them.' — Jack Nicklaus, on why a golf course should have a long par 3. ___ AP golf:
