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India.com
01-08-2025
- General
- India.com
Bad news for US Navy, P-8A aircraft scrapped after F-35C fighter jet crash... how will US fight China?
Bad news for US Navy, P-8A aircraft scrapped after F-35C fighter jet crash... how will US fight China? The United States Navy is forced to scrap a P-8A aircraft, after an F-35C aircraft was crashed. This has raised serious questions on its preparations. The P-8A Poseidon aircraft crashed shortly after passing beyond the runway in Hawaii, in 2023, leading to the decision of its scrapping. Recently, another Navy F-35C crashed on an Aircraft Carrier in California. Both of the aircrafts are essential and important assets of the US Navy, and are considered to be major pillars of surveillance as well as attacking. Sources from the US Navy have confirmed about the scrapping of the P-8A aircrafts, confirms The War Zone. The reports mention that the P-8A aircraft was built on the Boeing 737-800 base, is a modern maritime surveillance and anti-submarine aircraft. The accident has led to a plan being devised to scrap the aircraft, as the cost of repairing it was very high. The aeroframe has been badly damaged due to the aircraft being submerged in salt water for about 2 weeks. Hence, it has been officially declared that it will be scrapped after taking out a few components which are in good condition. These components would be used to install in other P-8A aircrafts if and when needed. The task of scrapping has already started, and it is expected to complete by the end of this month. Has work begun to scrap P-8A aircraft? On November 20, 2023, the P-8A aircraft landed uncontrollably off the runway of Marine Corps Air Station, Kaneohe Bay (component of US Marine Corps Base Hawaii). This was caused because of heavy rains and low visibility due to clouds. The plane went in to the seabed, and was left resting on coral and sand in shallow waters of the Bay, about 50 yards from the coast. Later, 2000 gallons of fuel left in the plane was taken out, but the plane remained there for 2 weeks, causing a lot of damage to many components of the aircraft. Initially, the US Navy wanted to save the plane, but the estimated costs for the same rose to about $1.5 million USD. After several attempts were made to bring the plane into service and the costs constantly rising, the $171 million dollar plane was considered completely destroyed. The maximum range this aircraft offers is about 7,500 km, and can fly for 10 hours straight. This allows it to conduct long-range patrols in areas like the Indian Ocean or the South China Sea. Apart from this, the aircraft is equipped with modern surveillance and reconnaissance equipment, such as a long-range X-band radar that can identify marine objects hundreds of kilometres away. It is also equipped with sophisticated electronic warfare systems and high-resolution digital electro-optical (EO) and infrared (IR) sensors. Does Indian Navy have P-8I aircraft? India also uses the P-8A aircraft, but the name of the Indian variant is P-8I, where I stands for India. The country has bought 12 P-8I so far and has already placed an order for 6 more. It is used for surveillance in the Arabian Sea, Indian Ocean and the Bay of Bengal. Its most dangerous capability is to track submarines hidden inside the sea. Before Operation Sindoor, P-8I aircrafts were seen flying continuously in the Arabian Sea which led many experts to believe that the Indian Navy was detecting the presence of Chinese submarines in the Arabian Sea. Considering the US Navy, both the F-35C stealth fighter jet and the P-8A play a very important role in America's strategic advantage in the Indo-Pacific. But the loss of these aircraft is raising serious questions about the preparedness of the US Navy. Currently, the US Navy has not expressed its desire to buy any new aircraft to replace the crashed P-8A aircraft, but repeated accidents of the F-35C stealth fighter jet have raised questions about the credibility of the world's most expensive fighter aircraft program. This comes after another F-35C of the Royal British Navy was stranded in Kerala for weeks after breaking down earlier.
Yahoo
31-07-2025
- General
- Yahoo
Navy Scraps P-8 Poseidon That Ran Off The Runway In Hawaii Two Years Ago
The U.S. Navy is scrapping a P-8A Poseidon that ended up in Hawaii's Kaneohe Bay back in 2023, marking the first total loss of one of these aircraft. The service was initially hopeful that the plane could be returned to service, but ultimately decided it would be too costly to do so. The P-8A in question ran off the runway at Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay, part of Marine Corps Base Hawaii, on November 20, 2023. All nine members of the crew were uninjured in the mishap and were able to return to shore. The aircraft, which was assigned to Patrol Squadron Four (VP-4) at the time, suffered significant damage, which was further compounded by the roughly two weeks it spent sitting in saltwater. A complex retrieval operation was executed to get the aircraft back on land, as you can read more about here. At the time of writing, the results of any investigation into the incident do not appear to be publicly available. 'The Navy's P-8A Fleet Support Team, Boeing (P-8A Original Equipment Manufacturer), and AAR (P-8A Airframe Maintenance Repair and Overhaul provider) conducted a comprehensive airworthiness, engineering, and repair assessment of the aircraft structure and systems,' a spokesperson for Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) told TWZ in a statement today. 'As a result of the extensive repair requirements, necessity for unique aircraft manufacturing representative support equipment, and estimated cost required to return the aircraft to service in a mission capable configuration, pursuing a repair of the aircraft was determined to be cost prohibitive.' The P-8A that crashed into the sea in 2023 has been written off and — 笑脸男人 (@lfx160219) July 23, 2025 The first sign that the P-8A was being scrapped came in the form of the video seen above, which first began circulating on social media last week. 'Following a formal aircraft strike authorization, the Navy proceeded with demilitarization and disposal of the P-8A aircraft involved in the 2023 mishap,' the NAVAIR spokesperson added. 'Those activities are currently in progress in Hawaii and expected to be complete by August 2025.' 'In order to salvage all usable equipment from the aircraft prior to disposal, the Navy identified and removed all serviceable aircraft components and mission systems, transferring those parts to the Navy's supply system for repair to logistically support other fleet aircraft,' the NAVAIR spokesperson further told TWZ. What it might have cost to return the P-8A to service is unknown, but the Navy told the AP that the price tag on the salvage operation alone might total $1.5 million back in December 2023. As TWZ previously wrote after the jet had been extracted from Kaneohe Bay: 'The Navy is hopeful that the P-8A will be able to eventually return to service, but the full extent of the damage to the jet remains unclear. Salt water, which the jet was sitting in for around two weeks, can cause serious damage through corrosion. The aircraft's engines were largely submerged the entire time, which could have led to major damage to fan blades and other internal components. The underside of the Poseidon is also lined with antennas and apertures, and it is unclear how much water may have seeped into the weapons bay or other spaces inside the aircraft. The jet's nose cone, and the radar behind it, are also missing and it is not clear what the condition of those components might be now.' 'There is clearly an interest on the part of the Navy in making this P-8A operational again. Each one of these jets, which are based on the Boeing 737 Next Generation airliner, costs just over $171 million, according to Navy budget documents. So repairing even a seriously damaged example could be cheaper than buying a brand-new one.' The P-8A unit price subsequently rose to nearly $180 million in Fiscal Year 2024, according to more recent Navy budget documents. The Navy expects to continue taking deliveries of new Poseidons into 2027, but there is no indication at present that it is planning to acquire an additional airframe to make up for the loss. The target total fleet size had previously been 128 airframes. The P-8A has now all but replaced the P-3C Orion maritime patrol plane, as well as the EP-3E Aries II intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft. Though generally described as a maritime patrol platform, the P-8A is really multi-mission with extensive ISR capabilities. The Navy is investing heavily in further expanding the capabilities of these aircraft with new munitions, podded self-protection systems, and other improvements. In June, the service took delivery of the first Poseidon with a major new upgrade package, referred to as Increment 3 Block 2. This includes 'a new combat systems suite with improved computer processing, higher security architecture, a wide band satellite communication system, an ASW signals intelligence capability, a track management system, and additional communications and acoustics systems to enhance search, detection, and targeting capabilities,' according to the Navy. Manufacturer Boeing has also seen significant success with the P-8 on the export market, with additional Poseidons in service now in Australia, India, New Zealand, Norway, South Korea, and the United Kingdom. Canada and Germany also have jets on order. The Procurement Agency for the German Armed Forces (BAAINBw) and the German Navy stopped by the #P8 finishing center to check on the progress of their first P-8A Poseidon. Hear why the service says it'll be an "awesome feeling" to receive the first sub hunter later this year. — Boeing Defense (@BoeingDefense) July 15, 2025 The Navy's P-8A fleet looks set for a long career, despite the service's final decision to write off the waterlogged P-8A in Hawaii. Contact the author: joe@ Solve the daily Crossword
Newsweek
24-07-2025
- Politics
- Newsweek
NATO Ally Sends Submarine Hunter to Russia's Doorstep
Based on facts, either observed and verified firsthand by the reporter, or reported and verified from knowledgeable sources. Newsweek AI is in beta. Translations may contain inaccuracies—please refer to the original content. A submarine-hunting aircraft operated by NATO member Norway flew close to major military bases in northwestern Russia on Wednesday, according to publicly available flight records. Why It Matters Signals captured by the website Flightradar24 show NATO nations, including the United States, have been carrying out reconnaissance flights close to Russia's northwestern Murmansk region in recent days. A U.S. Air Force spy plane took off from a British base on Tuesday, first traveling north over Norway before approaching Murmansk, which is pressed up against NATO member Finland. A similar aircraft operated by the British Royal Air Force flew an almost identical flight path through Europe up to Murmansk last week. What To Know The Norwegian P-8A "Poseidon" was first detected in the Barents Sea on Wednesday morning local time, heading in a northwesterly direction away from the area off northern Murmansk. Russia's Northern Fleet, which controls much of Moscow's submarine and nuclear capabilities, is based in the Murmansk region, partly in the town of Severomorsk. Russia has a variety of military bases located close to one another around the city of Murmansk and Severomorsk, including major submarine hubs. The Kremlin has a formidable submarine fleet, which is generally considered a much more impressive force than Moscow's surface fleet of vessels. A partial flight route recorded by Flightradar24 showed the Norwegian anti-submarine warfare plane, identified by the call sign NIKE21, traveled from close to Murmansk to the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard before returning to northern Norway roughly four hours later. The aircraft appeared to be operating out of Evenes Air Station, home to advanced F-35 fifth-generation fighter jets, as well as hosting Norway's new P-8A fleet. Newsweek has reached out to the Norwegian armed forces for comment via email. A Poseidon aircraft arrives in Kinloss, Scotland, in February 2020. A Poseidon aircraft arrives in Kinloss, Scotland, in February 2020. Press Association via AP Images The P-8A is a Boeing-made maritime patrol and reconnaissance aircraft in service with several militaries across the world. The British government said back in 2022 it would deploy its P-8A aircraft to the High North, a broad geographic term often used to include the Arctic. British air force P-8As now fly regular sorties out of RAF Lossiemouth, a base in Moray in northeast Scotland. What Happens Next NATO attention has increasingly turned to the Arctic in recent years, a region where Russia is dominant. Officials from NATO militaries have also warned of China's growing presence in the Arctic, although Beijing is not an Arctic state.
Newsweek
07-07-2025
- Politics
- Newsweek
US Ally Flies New Submarine Hunters To Sink North Korea's Navy
Based on facts, either observed and verified firsthand by the reporter, or reported and verified from knowledgeable sources. Newsweek AI is in beta. Translations may contain inaccuracies—please refer to the original content. South Korea began flying its fleet of P-8A maritime patrol aircraft—acquired from its ally the United States—to counter North Korea's navy, including its destroyers and submarines. The P-8A is capable of conducting anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare missions. South Korea received all six maritime patrol aircraft from Boeing in June 2024. Newsweek has contacted the North Korean Embassy in China for comment via email. Why It Matters South Korea, known officially as the Republic of Korea (ROK), hosts about 28,500 U.S. military personnel to deter provocations and attacks from nuclear-armed North Korea as both sides technically remain in a state of war following the conclusion of an armistice—but not a peace treaty—after the Korean War. In addition to developing its nuclear forces, North Korea—under the leadership of Kim Jong Un—has been modernizing its conventional military power, including launching two 5,000-ton destroyers and a missile-armed submarine, as it seeks to establish a "world level" navy. What To Know Citing military officials, Yonhap News Agency of South Korea reported that the country's P-8A maritime patrol aircraft—operated by the navy—began deployment last Thursday following the completion of preparations, including flight exercises and personnel training. The aircraft, also known as Poseidon, is tasked with detecting North Korean submarine fleet, according to South Korean military officials, as it is capable of being armed with sonobuoys and torpedoes, which are designed to detect, identify, track and attack underwater targets. Boeing, which manufactures the aircraft, said an upgrade was being installed on the Poseidon operated by the U.S. Navy, enabling it to counter the world's most advanced submarines. It remains unclear whether the upgrade will also be applied to South Korea's Poseidon fleet. South Korea's navy holding a ceremony to take over a P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft at the Naval Air Command in Pohang, South Korea, on July 4, 2024. South Korea's navy holding a ceremony to take over a P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft at the Naval Air Command in Pohang, South Korea, on July 4, 2024. U.S. Forces Korea The Poseidon is also capable of carrying missiles for anti-ship missions. According to the South Korean navy's news release, the Boeing-made aircraft is equipped with a long-range radar, high-resolution imaging and detection equipment, and electronic warfare systems. The P-8A fleet is scheduled to replace the South Korean navy's aging P-3C patrol aircraft, which flies slower and has a shorter range. In late May, one of the P-3C aircraft crashed in the southeastern city of Pohang during a training flight, killing all four crew members. Australia, India and New Zealand are three Indo-Pacific countries that also operate the Poseidon, according to Boeing. What People Are Saying South Korea's navy said in a news release in June 2024: "The procurement of the P-8A will significantly strengthen the ROK Navy's aerial anti-submarine warfare capabilities against North Korean submarines, improve rapid response capabilities in future maritime operations, and expand surveillance capabilities over our waters." Boeing said on its website: "The P-8 Poseidon offers the size, weight, power and cooling capacity to support evolving mission needs, including the integration of additional mission systems to enhance operational versatility. The P-8's open mission systems architecture means rapid, affordable technology insertion for decades of mission readiness." What Happens Next It remains to be seen whether South Korea will make an additional purchase of the P-8A aircraft as North Korea continues to expand its navy.
India.com
05-07-2025
- General
- India.com
Big trouble for Xi Jinping! After India, another enemy of China has acquired ‘Sea Hunter,' armed with anti-ship guided missiles, has cheetah-like speed; it is…, country is…
Following India, another enemy of China has secured the P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft, more widely known as the 'submarine killer.' Well, it is none other than South Korea. South Korea becomes the fourth country in the Indo-Pacific to operate the P-8 Poseidon. Australia and New Zealand, in addition to India, have already been operating this advanced surveillance aircraft. With the acquisition of the P-8 Poseidon, South Korea will enhance its surveillance capabilities and monitoring of the Chinese and North Korean navies. For the unversed, China operates the largest navy in the world in terms of quantity. Meanwhile, North Korea has been expanding its navy on the waters too. Which country has acquired P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft? Earlier on July 3, the Republic of Korea Navy (South Korean Navy) officially began operating its squadron of P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance aircraft, as per a report by Yonhap News Agency. South Korea received all six aircraft from Boeing by June 2024, which was followed by a year-long training period for pilots and mechanics, which included flight training. With the training completed, all six aircraft are now deemed operationally ready to perform maritime patrol, anti-submarine warfare, and anti-ship operations. With threats rising from North Korea, South Korea purchased the P-8A Poseidon aircraft to transition from its aging fleet of P-3 patrol planes. The P-8A offers superior performance, a higher maximum speed, and superior operational range compared to the P-3. The P-8A is recognized worldwide as the best 'submarine hunter' and has the capability to conduct critical missions such as anti-submarine warfare, anti-ship warfare, and maritime reconnaissance with a high degree of efficiency. According to the Yonhap News Agency, the P-8A Poseidon can fly at a maximum speed of 907 kilometers per hour and is considerably faster than the P-3's maximum speed of 749 kph. The aircraft is capable of, operating a wide array of weapons (anti-ship guided missiles and torpedoes). Thus, it can strike surface targets and submarines. Importantly, the P-8A Poseidon can deploy about 120 sonobuoys to detect, identify and track enemy submarines and, thus, provides enormous anti-submarine warfare capability. During the aircraft's induction last year, former South Korean Defense Minister Shin Won-sik boldly stated that the P-8A Poseidon will turn enemy submarines into scrap. For them, the sea will become a living hell. South Korea plans to field the aircraft to closely observe its main security concern, North Korea, as well as the growing strategic challenge of China. Several other Indo-Pacific states, India, Australia, and New Zealand, have also purchased the P-8A Poseidon from the U.S. to upgrade their surveillance capacity and response, amid the growing military assertiveness of China in the region. India has utilized these aircraft for the observation of Chinese activity. In addition to maritime surveillance aircraft, P-8I aircraft have been used for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) missions on land. For instance, Indian authorities used the P-8I during the 2020 Galwan Valley clash and in the 2017 Doklam standoff to monitor Chinese troop movements. Going by the media reports, the P-8I provided near real-time images and data of Chinese military movements along the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Beyond bilateral responsibilities, P-8 operators are increasing their cooperation across the Indo-Pacific region. In crisis, these nations utilize their intelligence sharing to link mutual capabilities and ensure collective knowledge on their respective capabilities.
