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Daily Record
2 days ago
- Health
- Daily Record
Man's life 'ended' after one tick bite as he's forced to pay £150,000 for private care
Steven Williams was living a "normal" active lifestyle, exercising regularly, working as a civil servant and playing in a rock band - but one week in March 2021, he felt a sudden change A man debilitated by a Lyme disease tick bite has revealed he's had to fork out nearly £150,000 on private medical care just to feel "4 out of 10". Steven Williams, 39, from Bridgend, South Wales, was leading a "normal" active life, regularly exercising, working as a civil servant and playing in a rock band – until one week in March 2021 - he experienced a drastic change. He began suffering from severe heart palpitations, fatigue, and crippling anxiety and depression, alongside food intolerances and gastrointestinal issues – all symptoms which were new to him. Previously known as the "steady one in the group", Steven suddenly found himself unable to carry out basic tasks. This included things like taking the bins out, watching television or even washing himself - all due to the overwhelming intensity of his anxiety and depression. After 7 months of visiting the GP and trying various ineffective medications, it was finally revealed that he had Lyme disease, a bacterial infection transmitted by infected ticks. Since his diagnosis in October 2021, he has spent close to £150,000 on private healthcare across the globe, having to remortgage his home to afford it. Despite the expense, Steven has only seen minor improvements in his condition and is forced to live a restricted life, eating a limited range of plain foods and engaging in very few activities just to function. He shared with PA Real LIfe: "I just want to regain some of my old quality of life. Since March 2021, although my symptoms have waxed and waned, I've never felt better than a 4 out of 10. It's small things like being able to meet friends for a meal, listen to music and do exercise." He appreciates the NHS and his GP's support but feels let down as only a two-week course of Doxycycline was offered. "For people who fall between the cracks, the system is too rigid." Ticks that may carry Lyme disease are widespread across the UK, with grassy and wooded areas in southern England and the Scottish Highlands being high-risk zones, according to the NHS. Steven doesn't recall when he was bitten and didn't develop the "bullseye rash". This rash is often associated with Lyme disease but actually appears in only a minority of cases, as stated by Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Centre. Residing in South Wales, he frequently walked in the mountains and forests with his dog, Jarvis, and suspects he might have been bitten there - though it could have occurred at any point before his symptoms emerged. Recalling the events in March 2021 and when life as he knew it came to an abrupt halt, he said he was hit with sudden, severe bouts of depression and anxiety, along with heart palpitations. He also became highly intolerant to many food types, suffered significant gastrointestinal issues, and found himself easily overstimulated, unable to watch TV, socialise or even listen to music. "It's very hard to explain but, as someone who used to play in a rock band, that's a hard pill to swallow. I knew something was not right and that my symptoms weren't characteristic of me. It was terrifying," he shared. Upon diagnosis, he thought: "I'd heard of the term Lyme disease but when I found out I had it, I thought, 'Great, now I can treat it and be well'." However, he soon realised, "Lo and behold, it wasn't that simple." Steven explored a vast array of remedies - pharmaceutical, herbal, and holistic - and has travelled globally to seek them out. In February 2022, he visited a clinic in Bavaria, Germany, for intravenous antibiotics and whole-body hyperthermia treatment, which involves using heat to elevate body temperature and stimulate the immune system. While the treatment successfully eradicated the Borrelia bacteria responsible for Lyme disease, he reports that it had no effect on the Babesia parasite, which invades red blood cells and causes flu-like symptoms. Upon returning to Wales after his treatment in March 2022, Steven recounted that he unfortunately caught Covid-19. With a weakened immune system, he experienced severe effects from the virus and was left with long Covid, which caused fatigue, thickened his blood, and further impeded his recovery. Following this, Steven said he has sought several other remedies – he visited Mexico to receive stem cell therapy and flew to New York on several occasions to work with Lyme disease specialist Dr Richard Horowitz. He also tried extended fasting and herbal remedies and, in February 2025, he said he flew to India to receive Intravenous Immunoglobulin (IVIg) therapy, a treatment which uses immunoglobulins, a type of protein that contain antibodies, which are taken from human blood. Although this treatment positively affected his food intolerances, he admits he is still far from fully healthy, battling sleep issues and adhering to a strict, simple lifestyle. "I have to live such a robotic life, just to feel semi-normal," he laments. Steven estimates that his quest for health solutions has cost him close to £150,000. He disclosed that his treatment in Germany amounted to around £35,000, while the IVIg therapy in India set him back £20,000. Steven said he was forced to remortgage his house to pay for them but he is determined to continue searching for an effective remedy. His friend Alecs Donovan has therefore set up a GoFundMe page to help him fund the next round of treatment in Germany, which he said will thin his blood and reduce the effects of long Covid. "Alecs has been absolutely amazing," Steven expressed. "She's such a wonderful person, always trying to help others. Health really is wealth so I'm so grateful to everyone who has donated. I just hope I can get my normal life back." A spokesperson for Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board said: "While it is not appropriate for us to comment on the care received by individuals, we encourage Mr Williams to get in touch with our concerns team directly so that we can explore his concerns further." The NHS says not all ticks in England carry the bacteria that cause Lyme disease but it is still important to be aware of ticks and to safely remove them as soon as possible. To donate or find out more, visit Steven's GoFundMe page here.
North Wales Live
2 days ago
- Health
- North Wales Live
'Normal and active' Welsh man struck down after tick bite 'changed everything'
A man incapacitated by a tick bite causing Lyme disease has revealed he's forked out close to £150,000 on private treatment just to feel "four out of 10". Steven Williams, 39, from Bridgend, was once leading an active life, regularly exercising, holding down a civil service job and playing in a rock band – until a drastic shift occurred one week in March 2021. He recounted the onset of severe heart palpitations, fatigue, and crippling anxiety and depression, along with new food intolerances and gastrointestinal problems. The man who used to be the "steady one in the group" suddenly found himself struggling with basic activities like taking out the rubbish, watching telly or even bathing due to overwhelming mental health issues. After seven months of ineffective treatments prescribed by his GP, it was finally identified that he had Lyme disease, a bacterial infection transmitted by infected ticks. He argued that the NHS's standard two-week antibiotic treatment wouldn't touch the sides at his stage of the illness, leading him since his diagnosis in October 2021 to spend roughly £150,000 on international private healthcare, even remortgaging his home to cover the costs. Despite spending a fortune on treatment, Steven has only seen marginal improvements in his health and is stuck living a monotonous, restricted life, subsisting on a few bland foods and engaging in minimal activities just to get by. "I just want to regain some of my old quality of life," he confided to PA Real Life. "It's small things like being able to meet friends for a meal, listen to music and do exercise.", reports Wales Online. "Since March 2021, although my symptoms have waxed and waned, I've never felt better than a four out of 10. The NHS is an amazing institution, and my GP has been so supportive, but a two-week course of Doxycycline is all they've been able to offer. For people who fall between the cracks, the system is too rigid." Ticks that may cause Lyme disease are found all over the UK but high-risk places include grassy and wooded areas in southern England and the Scottish Highlands, the NHS says. Steven said he does not know when exactly he was bitten and he did not get a "bullseye rash", a typical tell-tale mark surrounding the bite. But despite common belief, the rash is only present in a minority of Lyme disease patients, according to Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Centre. Living in South Wales, Steven spent long hours walking in the mountains and forests with his dog, Jarvis, and suspects he may have been bitten there, though he believes it could have been any number of days, weeks or even years before his symptoms first showed. In March 2021, he said his life as he knew it ended abruptly as he was struck with sudden, severe bouts of depression and anxiety, as well as heart palpitations. He said he also suddenly became highly intolerant to many food types and experienced significant gastrointestinal issues, and he found he was easily overstimulated, meaning he was unable to watch TV, socialise or even listen to music. "It's very hard to explain but, as someone who used to play in a rock band, that's a hard pill to swallow," he said. Steven visited a GP in March 2021 but said it was not until October that he was diagnosed with Lyme disease. "I knew something was not right and that my symptoms weren't characteristic of me. It was terrifying," he said. "I'd heard of the term Lyme disease but when I found out I had it, I thought, 'Great, now I can treat it and be well'. Lo and behold, it wasn't that simple." Steven said it was too late for the NHS-prescribed Doxycycline to be effective, so he was left to find his own remedies. He claims he has tried a huge range – pharmaceutical, herbal and holistic – and has travelled all over the world to do so. In February 2022, he said he visited a clinic in Bavaria, Germany, to receive intravenous antibiotics and whole-body hyperthermia, a treatment that uses heat to raise the body temperature, stimulating the immune response. While this successfully killed the Borrelia bacteria that cause Lyme disease, he says, it did not impact the Babesia parasite, which infects red blood cells, causing flu-like symptoms. Returning to Wales after his treatment in March 2022, Steven said he unfortunately contracted Covid-19. Since his immune system was compromised, he said the effects of this were severe and he was left with long Covid, causing fatigue, thickening his blood and further hindering his progress. Following this, Steven said he has sought several other remedies – he visited Mexico to receive stem cell therapy and flew to New York on several occasions to work with Lyme disease specialist Dr Richard Horowitz. He also tried extended fasting and herbal remedies and, in February 2025, he said he flew to India to receive Intravenous Immunoglobulin (IVIg) therapy, a treatment which uses immunoglobulins, a type of protein that contain antibodies, which are taken from human blood. While this had a positive impact on his food intolerances, he says, he remains well below full health, struggling with sleep and forced to live a strict, simple lifestyle. "I have to live such a robotic life, just to feel semi-normal," he says. Overall, Steven thinks he has spent nearly £150,000 seeking treatments. He said his course in Germany was in the region of £35,000 and his IVIg treatment in India cost £20,000. Steven said he was forced to remortgage his house to pay for them but he is determined to continue searching for an effective remedy. His friend Alecs Donovan has therefore set up a GoFundMe page to help him fund the next round of treatment in Germany, which he said will thin his blood and reduce the effects of long Covid. "Alecs has been absolutely amazing," he says. "She's such a wonderful person, always trying to help others. "Health really is wealth, so I'm so grateful to everyone who has donated. I just hope I can get my normal life back." A spokesperson for Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board said: "While it is not appropriate for us to comment on the care received by individuals, we encourage Mr Williams to get in touch with our concerns team directly so that we can explore his concerns further." To donate or find out more, visit Steven's GoFundMe page. The NHS says not all ticks carry the bacteria that cause Lyme disease, but it is still important to be aware of ticks and to safely remove them as soon as possible. For more information, visit
Daily Mirror
2 days ago
- Health
- Daily Mirror
'I went for a dog walk - it left me with a debilitating disease that's cost me £150,000'
Steven Williams, 39, was living a normal active lifestyle, exercising regularly, working as a civil servant and playing in a rock band A man left incapacitated by a tick bite causing Lyme disease has revealed he's spent close to £150,000 on private healthcare just to feel "four out of 10". Steven Williams, 39, from Bridgend, South Wales, was once leading an active life, hitting the gym, working as a civil servant and jamming with his rock band – until one fateful week in March 2021 when everything took a turn for the worse. He recounted how he suddenly started suffering from intense heart palpitations, fatigue and crippling anxiety and depression, alongside food intolerances and gastrointestinal problems – all new symptoms for him. Despite being known as the "steady one in the group", Steven found himself struggling with basic activities like taking the bins out, watching TV or even bathing due to overwhelming anxiety and depression. After seven months of fruitless GP visits and ineffective prescriptions, it was finally identified that he had Lyme disease, a bacterial infection transmitted by infected ticks. He claims that the NHS's standard two-week antibiotic treatment would not have touched the sides at his stage of the disease, leading him to spend around £150,000 on international private treatments since his diagnosis in October 2021, even remortgaging his home to cover the costs. Despite shelling out a fortune, Steven has only seen marginal improvements in his health and finds himself leading a monotonous, restricted existence. He subsists on a limited diet and minimises activities just to get by. "I just want to regain some of my old quality of life," he said. "It's small things like being able to meet friends for a meal, listen to music and do exercise. "Since March 2021, although my symptoms have waxed and waned, I've never felt better than a four out of 10. The NHS is an amazing institution, and my GP has been so supportive, but a two-week course of Doxycycline is all they've been able to offer. For people who fall between the cracks, the system is too rigid." Ticks, which are potential carriers of Lyme disease, are widespread across the UK, with grassy and wooded areas in southern England and the Scottish Highlands being particularly high-risk zones, according to the NHS. Steven admits he's unsure when he was bitten and didn't develop the "bullseye rash", often considered a classic sign of a tick bite. However, contrary to popular belief, this rash appears in only a minority of Lyme disease cases, as stated by Johns Hopkins Lyme Disease Research Centre. Living in South Wales, Steven frequently hiked in the mountains and woodlands with his dog, Jarvis, and suspects that's where he might have been bitten. But he acknowledges it could have happened at any point – days, weeks, or even years before he first noticed symptoms. In March 2021, he revealed his world was turned upside down when he was suddenly hit with severe episodes of depression and anxiety, alongside heart palpitations. He explained that he also developed an acute intolerance to numerous foods and suffered from substantial digestive problems, whilst becoming easily overwhelmed by stimulation - rendering him unable to watch television, socialise or even enjoy music. "It's very hard to explain but, as someone who used to play in a rock band, that's a hard pill to swallow," he said. Steven consulted a GP in March 2021 but revealed it wasn't until October that he received a Lyme disease diagnosis. "I knew something was not right and that my symptoms weren't characteristic of me. It was terrifying," he said. "I'd heard of the term Lyme disease but when I found out I had it, I thought, 'Great, now I can treat it and be well'. Lo and behold, it wasn't that simple." Steven explained it was too late for the NHS-prescribed Doxycycline to prove effective, leaving him to seek alternative treatments. He says he has experimented with an enormous variety of approaches - pharmaceutical, herbal and holistic - and has journeyed across the globe in pursuit of a cure. In February 2022, he recounted his visit to a clinic in Bavaria, Germany, where he underwent intravenous antibiotics and whole-body hyperthermia, a technique designed to elevate body temperature and boost the immune system. This approach successfully eradicated the Borrelia bacteria responsible for Lyme disease, he claims, but left the Babesia parasite, which invades red blood cells and causes flu-like symptoms, unaffected. Upon returning to Wales after his treatment in March 2022, Steven said that he unfortunately caught Covid-19. With his immune system already weakened, he described the impact as severe, resulting in long Covid that caused fatigue, blood thickening, and impeded his recovery. Subsequently, Steven pursued various alternative treatments – he travelled to Mexico for stem cell therapy and made multiple trips to New York to consult with Lyme disease expert Dr Richard Horowitz. He experimented with prolonged fasting and herbal remedies and, in February 2025, he mentioned flying to India to undergo Intravenous Immunoglobulin (IVIg) therapy, which involves using immunoglobulins, antibody-containing proteins sourced from human blood. Although this had a beneficial effect on his food sensitivities, he admits he is still far from fully healthy, battling sleep issues and adhering to a rigid, simplistic routine. "I have to live such a robotic life, just to feel semi-normal," he laments. Steven estimates that he has shelled out close to £150,000 in his quest for treatments. He shared that his stint in Germany cost around £35,000 and the IVIg treatment he underwent in India set him back £20,000. He was compelled to remortgage his home to cover these expenses but remains resolute in his pursuit of an effective cure. To aid in financing his next treatment in Germany, which he hopes will alleviate his long Covid symptoms by thinning his blood, his mate Alecs Donovan has launched a GoFundMe campaign. "Alecs has been absolutely amazing," he expressed. "She's such a wonderful person, always trying to help others. "Health really is wealth, so I'm so grateful to everyone who has donated. I just hope I can get my normal life back." A spokesperson for Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board said: "While it is not appropriate for us to comment on the care received by individuals, we encourage Mr Williams to get in touch with our concerns team directly so that we can explore his concerns further." To support or learn more, you can visit Steven's GoFundMe page. The NHS advises that although not all ticks are carriers of Lyme disease bacteria, it's crucial to be tick-aware and remove them safely at the earliest opportunity. For additional details, head over to
Refinery29
2 days ago
- Entertainment
- Refinery29
2 Sides, 1 Story: What It Was Like For This IRL Celebrity Couple To Narrate A Romance Together
We're all the main characters in our own story, but flip it into a script about love, and then it becomes two. Two sides, two perspectives. That's how Canadian author Lily Chu structured her latest romance title Rich Girl Summer, now only on Audible, which follows the complicated romance between Valerie Peng and Nico Hever, told from both points of view. The premise: Valerie poses as a long-lost daughter of a billionaire client to help him uncover a family secret, and ends up falling for his right-hand man, Nico. And for added effect — a layer of love, a bolt of authenticity, a dose of drama — Chu tapped real-life couple Phillipa Soo and Steven Pasquale to voice the two main characters. Drawing inspiration from the audiobook's format, we interviewed Soo and Pasquale separately about their first date, how they balance their wildly busy acting careers with their personal lives, and what it was like to narrate Rich Girl Summer together. How similar — or different — were their answers? Find out below. How did you meet? Phillipa: 'We were set up by our good friend Jonathan Groff. It was kind of a blind date. Looking back, there was definitely a spark. It was so much fun and we connected immediately. We were very similar in terms of our lives and what we did — we're both actors, and we had a lot of mutual friends. We were both having the best time. He's extremely talented, having seen him from afar, but getting to meet him really solidified the fact that I was not only a huge fan of him and his acting, but just as a person. He's really funny and he made me laugh a lot.' Steven: 'We met through the impossibly charming Jonathan Groff. He insisted that we would get along like a house on fire and he was right. There was an immediate connection.' What was your first date like? Phillipa: 'It was at a bar downtown — I don't remember what it was called, but it was a Russian bar — and we met over a couple of drinks, and we laughed non-stop for hours. It was wonderful.' Steven: 'We went to get drinks at a Russian bar in downtown New York. I can't remember the name — this was 10 years ago at this point.' Did you know this person was 'the one' for you? Phillipa: 'I think pretty early on we were both drawn to each other, and within six months we were in a serious relationship. It became very apparent early on that we wanted to make this a lasting thing.' Steven: 'Not right away, but pretty soon. We were spending a lot of time together and we didn't want to stop spending time together.' What was your first impression of each other? Phillipa: 'Really funny, really cute, very talented. He has one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard. He has a super brain — just very smart and very witty. Again, he made me laugh so much on that first date.' Steven: 'I thought she was bright. She's so beautiful, but also really bright.' What was your experience like narrating the dual perspectives in Rich Girl Summer as a real-life couple? Phillipa: 'The narrative is chronological, but we switch off narrating the chapters from our respective characters' perspectives. When you do any kind of recording, whether it's audio or animation, it's very rare that you get to be in the room with the people you're working with. So, we recorded separately. 'What I learned is that you have to prepare and do your homework before you get into the recording booth, because it'll make your life so much easier when you're there. You have help and support from the sound engineer and director, but you have to learn how to pronounce certain things and understand the different characters' voices because sometimes there are scenes where multiple people are talking. 'There was more communication between Steven and I because we had to talk about what we were thinking for the characters that we were portraying. He recorded his before mine; I remember being in the booth and asking, 'What did Steve do for that part? Can we play it back?' so I could match it in my voice for there to be some sort of consistency. The world that Lily Chu created in Rich Girl Summer was a testament to her writing — she's really specific about each character, who they are, and what they bring, and it's easy to differentiate them because her worlds are so rich; her characters are so rich. 'Steven is a fantastic actor, so there was no doubt in my mind that his side was going to be excellent. It was nice going into the booth — even though I was alone — knowing that I was a part of a collaborative process, that someone I know and love and admire was there doing it alongside me, though not literally. It gave me confidence.' Steven: 'The irony was that we did it entirely separately. I would do my work in the booth and she would go on a different day and do her work in the booth, and then they put it all together afterwards. So, there wasn't a ton of gazing at each other across the booth.' What is it like working with each other? Phillipa: 'He's excellent at what he does and talented and wonderful. The first time we worked together was doing a reading of Kiss Me, Kate, playing opposite each other, and we had a blast. We've also done a TV series together and a production of Guys and Dolls at the Kennedy Center. And every time I learn more about him — because not only is he my scene partner, but also my real partner. Being curious is a really great quality in a relationship. There's always something to learn about yourself and about them, so staying open and curious has been a really great part of our relationship, especially since we get to work together. 'When we were singing and doing the scenes in Guys and Dolls, there was a feeling, a spark, an excitement in the room. People talk about chemistry and are like, 'What does that mean?' For us, it's a very specific thing because we have actual chemistry on stage and [as a couple in real life]. Some of the most fun I've ever had has been on stage with him.' Steven: 'We starred in a Kennedy Center production of Guys and Dolls together two years ago. And we did a musical Kiss Me, Kate together. We co-starred in a television show called The Bite for Robert and Michelle King during the pandemic. We also did a TV show called The Code together. It's great. Phillipa is a world-class actor, so it's just great to put everything aside and play with a world-class actor. Anytime that happens, it's really fun. It's always a blast.' How do you balance your career with your personal life? How do you make time for each other? Phillipa: 'Finding time whenever we can to connect, whether that's on FaceTime if we're long distance, or at the end of the day if we're really busy — even if it's just a cup of tea together and we only have 20 minutes before we're ready to go to bed and the other person just got home from their show. Or, coffee in the morning. Those tiny rituals that make you feel like you're coming back to home base, connecting, and checking it — they certainly make me feel much more grounded, and I can have an amazing day because of it.' Steven: 'We radically prioritize working in New York City, so that we can at least be in the same geographic space. And we try to be together at the end of the day, even if a day is insane where one of us would be doing a long 16-hour television show and the other's doing a play. It can be hard to balance, but we try to carve out time in our days to spend together. [When we're not in the same city] we call, we text, we FaceTime. FaceTime is the great equalizer of long distance-relationships — it's like being in the same room with a person.' Do you have the same love language? Phillipa: 'Meaning, do we express love in the same way? I would say that we have many different ways of expressing our love for each other. I love to cook and so a lot of my day-to-day love language is making a lovely meal for the both of us to share and enjoy. And Steve loves an adventure. We're both big fans of New York; no one loves New York more than Steve. Going out, having an adventure, riding our bikes to a new fun hole-in-the-wall restaurant, having a good time and a good laugh, seeing some incredible art — that's our favorite thing to do. 'He's a big Notre Dame fan and I'm not a sports person at all. At the beginning of our relationship, he told me he was a big Notre Dame fan, and I had no idea what that meant. It involved me learning about football, and now, I watch the game with him because he loves it. He learned how to cook, and I learned how to love watching football.' Steven: 'I don't know what that means. My love language is Notre Dame football. Is that an acceptable answer? I'm going to put myself in the regular bro category and have no idea what you're even referring to. I'm waving the white flag of surrender on that question.' What has been the most rom-com moment in your relationship? Phillipa: 'We laugh a lot. There's always silly things happening. When one of us can make the other one laugh, that's like the best thing. It's just so fun. Constantly joking around and being silly.' Steven: 'Oh god, she's a very silly fun person, so we have tons of fun all the time, so I couldn't begin to choose one. We are very silly people, so to pick one would be to assume that they are infrequent. They are literally all the time.' How would you describe your relationship? Phillipa: 'Super healthy. All relationships are tricky, and you have to put a lot of work into it in order to make it work. As actors, it's sometimes hard to find stability in your life. So, working really hard to find stability and being together as much as we can and connecting and prioritizing any form of connection has been really helpful.' Steven: 'Great. We have a strong friendship; she's my favorite hanging buddy. She's the yin to my yang. We really are a good balance for each other.' What has been the most romantic or memorable date? Phillipa: 'We had a really great date early on when we both acknowledged that this was real and serious, and we walked across the Brooklyn Bridge, which was something I had never done in all my years of living in New York, so the first time I did it was with Steve.' Steven: 'It would have to be when we got engaged. We were on vacation in the Caribbean and it happened on the beach, and it was beautiful. That would be my top choice. I wasn't nervous because she was dropping hints, so I knew it would go well.' How do you resolve conflict? Phillipa: ' We talk. We communicate as soon as we can. I think it's better to express what's going on as opposed to sitting on feelings and letting things stew. It's a practice; it's never perfect, but it's definitely better to talk, always.' Steven: 'We talk it out. We communicate really well.' What's your number-one advice for couples? Phillipa: ' Choosing to be loving, whatever that means for you. We can get stuck in ways of loving people and giving people the things that they need because it's out of habit or it's hard to go out of your comfort zone. Loving your partner more will make everything flourish.' Steven: 'You don't have to be right to be happy — conflict is so easy to avoid if you're willing to not think you have to be right all the time. That's advice my dad gave me, and it's advice I live by to this day.'
Irish Independent
3 days ago
- Sport
- Irish Independent
‘Last season I was critical of Shamrock Rovers fans. Tonight I heard a chant from Linfield fans that was bang out of order too'
They discuss Shelbourne's superiority over the two legs, the questions it presents for Irish League clubs around the structure of the season, and the overall occasion with praise for managers and supporters around their handling of the all-island aspect – although Steven does move to condemn one Linfield chant after being highly critical of Shamrock Rovers supporters during their win over Larne in the Conference League last year.
