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The Panel with Sarah Perriam-Lampp and Peter Dunne Part 1

The Panel with Sarah Perriam-Lampp and Peter Dunne Part 1

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Tonight, on The Panel, Wallace Chapman is joined by panellists Sarah Perriam-Lampp and Peter Dunne . To begin: the NCEA annoucnment from the government sees Erica Stanford and Christopher Luxon proposing to abolish and replace NCEA. They also discuss the government's plans to revise the Conservation Act which includes charging international visitors $20-40 dollars to access four popular sites - Cathedral Cove, the Tongariro Crossing, Milford Sound and Aoraki Mount Cook.
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