Centrist or podcast bro? Newsom's latest rebranding effort is available to download

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01-04-2025

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Since everyone and their mother has a podcast these days, it's not too surprising that California Gov. Gavin Newsom dove into the space with the recent launch of 'This Is Gavin Newsom.'
'It's time to have honest discussions with people who agree AND disagree with us,' the show description states. 'It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other.'
Just a few episodes in, Newsom's venture has quickly garnered both criticism and kudos. Some on the left feel betrayed by the prominent liberal leader's willingness to sit down with major MAGA personalities and break from Democratic talking points on some polarizing issues. Other political thinkers view his approach as a much-needed attempt to soften the nation's stark polarization — and\or the latest vehicle for Newsom's own political ambitions.
'A common takeaway from the podcast is that Newsom is attempting to shape-shift into a moderate as he gears up to run for president in the aftermath of the Democratic Party's disastrous 2024 election,' Times reporter Taryn Luna explained this week.
What does Newsom talk about on his podcast?
Newsom takes his party to task as he shares space with some of MAGA's biggest names.
In the inaugural episode, the governor hosted MAGA activist Charlie Kirk and quickly found himself in a political firestorm after saying transgender women's participation in sports is 'deeply unfair.'
In subsequent episodes Newsom sat down with conservative commentator Michael Savage, and later with former Trump advisor Steve Bannon.
Newsom defends his show as critiques fly
Critics accused him of platforming right-wing voices in a misguided attempt at centrism.
'He has always been more or less a tech bro from Northern California with the same kind of politics as we thought,' Lorena Gonzalez, president of the California Federation of Labor Unions, told Taryn. 'He's done playing liberal and now he's just going to be himself.'
While his conservative guests made reliable jabs at Democrats and their policies, Newsom has also been critical of his party — both on his show and in other media.
In an interview with Taryn, Newsom said Democrats had 'lost our way' and are suffering the consequences of their 'toxic' brand.
'Our party's getting our ass kicked … people don't think we make any damn sense,' he said. 'They don't think we have their values. They think we're elite. We talk down to people. We talk past people. They think we just think we're smarter than other people, that we're so judgmental and full of ourselves.'
It's not as if Newsom is the only liberal popping the hood to diagnose Democrats' problems and try to get them back on the road to victory for 2026's midterm and 2028's general elections.
New York Times opinion columnist Ezra Klein has been on a media tour dissecting liberalism's governing failures, with a special focus on the Golden State. He was the guest on Newsom's show last week, where the two talked bureaucracy, CEQA and California's grand plan for high-speed rail that's running at least a decade behind schedule.
'There is something wrong in a [political] culture that so often fails to deliver what it promises,' Klein said during their conversation.
A 'Joe Rogan of the left'?
Times columnist Anita Chabria wrote recently that the early episodes of Newsom's podcast were 'cringe' and 'appalling,' but added that the governor's effort was 'undeniably smart.'
'He understands there is a new political order, and it's not about rising through the ranks of the party or appeasing a base,' she argued. 'It's about audience, politics aside, and Newsom is savvy enough to chase it.'
Fellow columnist Mark Z. Barabak was less impressed.
'If Newsom really hopes to be president someday, the best thing he could do is a bang-up job in his final 22 months as governor. Not waste time on glib and self-flattering diversions,' he wrote last month. 'People have told Newsom as much. But the only voice he seems to care about [is] his own.'
Kambiz Akhavan, managing director for the USC Dornsife Center for the Political Future, views Newsom's foray into podcasting as an effort to '[position] himself as the Joe Rogan of the left.'
He doesn't view that as a bad thing.
'Podcasts are a powerful way to get inside people's heads with long-form substantive content that is largely absent from our TikTok, 30-second, dopamine-hit, doom-scrolling media diets,' Akhavan wrote in an emailed comment. 'Reaching across the aisle to explore issues and talk respectfully across differences is a welcome treat in our polarized society.'
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