
Q4 2024 First Advantage Corp Earnings Call
Stephanie Gorman; Vice President - Investor Relations; First Advantage Corp
Scott Staples; Chief Executive Officer, Director; First Advantage Corp
Steven Marks; Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer; First Advantage Corp
Shlomo Rosenbaum; Analyst; Stifel
Andrew Steinerman; Analyst; JPMorgan
Daniel Maxwell; Analyst; William Blair
Manav Patnaik; Analyst; Barclays
Jeff Silber; Analyst; BMO Capital Markets
Kyle Peterson; Analyst; Needham & Company LLC
Scott Wurtzel; Analyst; Wolfe Research
Operator
Good day everyone. My name is David and I'll be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome you to the first advantage, fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call and webcast. Hosting today's call from First Advantage is Stephanie Gorman, Vice President of Investor relations. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Please note today's event is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Stephanie Gorman. You may begin.
Stephanie Gorman
Thank you, David. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to First Advantage's fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. In the investors section of our website, you will find the earnings press release and slide presentation to accompany today's discussion. This webcast is being recorded and will be available for replay on our investor relations website. Before we begin our prepared remarks, I would like to remind everyone that our discussion today will include forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors. These factors are discussed in more detail in our filings with the FEC, including our 2023 Form 10k and our 2024 Form 10k to be filed with the FEC. Such factors may be updated from time to time in our periodic filings with the FEC, and we do not undertake any obligation to update forward-looking statements. Throughout this conference call, we will also present and discuss non-gap financial measures, reconciliations of our non-gap financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures, to the extent available without unreasonable effort appear in today's earnings press release and presentation, which are available on our investor relations website. To facilitate comparability, we will also discuss pro forma combined company results consisting of first advantage and sterling Check Corp, historical results, and certain pro forma adjustments as if the acquisition of Sterling had occurred on January 1, 2023. The pro forma information does not constitute Article 11 pro forma information. I'm joined on our call today by Scott Staples, our Chief Executive Officer, and Stephen Marks, our Chief Financial Officer. After our prepared remarks, we will take your question. I will now hand the call over to Scott.
Scott Staples
Thank you, Stephanie, and good morning everyone. Thank you for joining our call. 2024 was a big year for first advantage as we advanced on our strategy and announced and closed on the sterling acquisition. I am very proud of our team's dedication to execution and consistently delivering results, keeping our customers at the center of everything we do. I am also excited to provide an update on our fourth quarter and full year accomplishments and to discuss our outlook for 2025. We have four key messages for today. First, we generated solid results for the fourth quarter and full year amid an uncertain macro environment. We also maintained our cost discipline to sustain robust margins within the legacy first advantage business and produce strong cash flow. Second, as we closed on our $2.2 billion strategic acquisition of sterling. Which leads me to the third point that we are underway in rolling out our updated strategy which we call FA 5.0. And as we discussed last quarter, our organization and management team have been optimized to deliver growth. With the additional scale and capabilities of Sterling and FA 5.0, we are accelerating our strategic progress. Our key strategic objectives in 2025 are to action our synergy targets, deleverage our balance sheet, successfully execute our integration plan, and accelerate our go to market strategy focused on product, technology, and innovation. We are tracking well on our synergy execution, and today we are pleased to be increasing the lower end of our targeted range with our updated net cost synergy target range of $60 million to $70 million and improvement from our previous target range of $50 million to $70 million. Over time, our synergy realization will help to stabilize and expand sterling margins. We are focused on deleveraging our balance sheet and have gotten a fast start on the sterling integration while continuing to provide our customers with the service and quality they know they can expect from us. At the same time, we are maintaining our focus on innovation in order to position our business for future growth. And fourth, we are introducing our full year 2025 guidance. We are entering 2025 in a strong business position encouraged by recent pipeline success, reducing headwinds as recent jolts data continues to normalize and feedback from our customers. That said, in view of the current macro environment, which continues to be uncertain, we are maintaining a cautiously optimistic outlook. Steven will cover our guidance and key assumptions in greater detail in the financial section shortly. We remain confident in our strategy and our position to create long-term shareholder value in 2025 and beyond. In view of the new US administration, I also wanted to share a few comments on potential policy impacts on our business. We do not have meaningful direct exposure to federal government hiring and therefore do not expect to be directly impacted by efforts to streamline federal government spending. In some respects, government efficiency efforts could potentially be a tailwind for first advantage if there are efforts to outsource and privatize work that is currently done by the government. To date, there has not been a noticeable impact from government efficiency efforts on our business. While tariffs may impact our customers and overall economic growth, we do not have any significant direct exposure to tariffs. And as a reminder, 87% of our 2024 pro forma revenues were generated in the US. Turning to slide 5 and an updated view of our enhanced profile with the addition of sterling. Our combined capabilities position us as a leader and increase our customer value proposition, offering differentiated technology platforms and a broad collection of innovative solutions across a comprehensive range of verticals. As a reminder, with the closing of Sterling on October 31, our reported fourth quarter and full year results include two months of Sterling's performance. In order to provide comparability to previous periods, we are showing first advantage and sterling on a pro forma basis with combined financial data for 2023 and 2024 throughout this presentation and plan to continue to do so in the future. In 2024 we delivered sustained profitability while managing through the sterling closing and kicking off integration. Our pro forma full year revenues were approximately $1.5 billion with $397 million in pro forma adjusted EBITDA or $458 million on a synergized basis. In 2024, our approximately 10,000 team members completed nearly $190 million sceens on behalf of our 80,000 active customers across 200 countries and territories. This includes over 2/3 of Fortune 100 companies and approximately one half of Fortune 500 companies. Our gross retention remains at approximately 96%. We now have over $900 million records in our proprietary databases, and we have over 100 integrations with applicant tracking systems and human capital management partners giving us a unique competitive advantage for the fourth quarter and full year, combined upsell, cross-sell, and new logo rates performed in line or better than Legacy, first advantage, and Sterling's historical growth algorithms. Retention rates also performed in line for both businesses. Together we had 25 enterprise bookings in the fourth quarter and 88 in the last 12 months, each with $500,000 or more of expected annual contract value, including two notably large US deals. Looking into 2025, we have been seeing our pipeline momentum continue. We have recently won a large deal with a significant retail customer in the gig economy. We were able to leverage existing relationships and trust to unlock critical business issues, drive the business to RFP, and ultimately be awarded this deal. Also in 2025, we won our largest international contract in the past years with a new logo in Australia. As you can see, our sales engine continues to deliver consistent results. Additionally, our verticalized go to market approach remains a differentiator and a key driver of our growth strategy. We offer deep subject matter expertise in our industry segments, and we use industry specific data to advise our customers on topics such as leading practices and product optimization. Our largest verticals are healthcare, transportation, and retail and e-commerce. While First Advantage has historically been more oriented to hourly workers within high volume hiring verticals, Sterling brings a strong portfolio of verticals focused on salaried workers, resulting in our pro forma revenue mix being more equally weighted between the two. Our balance across a diverse range of verticals and between hourly and hourly focused customers enables us to weather a variety of macroeconomic scenarios and makes us less dependent on any one sector or customer. On the slide, we have provided an updated view of our verticals for 2024 on a pro forma basis. During the year, we grew our footprint in healthcare and transportation as both verticals, particularly healthcare, proved themselves to be resilient through the macro and had strong upsell cross results. Our other verticals changed only modestly from the prior year with some headwinds experienced in our retail and staffing verticals. Steven will share more about the underlying dynamics shortly. Turning to 56. Since closing, we have been laser focused on executing our strategic post closed priorities, enabling enabled by our integration playbook. These priorities are focused on continuity with our customers, a smooth integration process, synergies, and deleveraging our balance sheet. We have seen early success in leveraging each legacy company's technology and processes since closing. Fundamentally, we are applying a best of breed approach on tech and product stacks to meet the needs of our customers. For example, First Advantage was recently awarded a large deal in the healthcare protocol, and we determined that Sterling's platform. Was actually best suited to this customer's requirements. So, this is the tech platform they will go on. This type of flexibility enhances our customer value proposition, offering more options for our customers and the market. We have also identified automation opportunities where one company may have automated criminal court records in a jurisdiction that the other had not yet, allowing us to simply turn on that service for all of our customers, creating synergy opportunities and expanding our combined capabilities. We are also very pleased that there have not been disruptions to customers throughout the integration process. Our executive team has communicated regularly with our large customers who have shared that they are excited to be able to benefit from the best of both worlds from first advantage and sterling. They are optimistic about our approach to integration. And what it means for their background screening programs, including improved turnaround times, new products and services, and enhanced platform functionality. They are eager to see new technology as it becomes available and experience performance improvements from our combined capabilities. We are also getting strong traction with prospects who are excited about our deeper global presence and our ability to leverage regional skills from both organizations. In addition, our increased vertical expertise is compelling for prospects who are looking for thought leadership and want to work with experts who understand their businesses. Prospects are also intrigued to hear how we will leverage our large amounts of data and how the work we are doing to innovate within verifications will benefit them. We continue to drive innovation to maintain our competitive advantage and ensure we are offering the best solutions to our customers, and we're doing all of this under our high performing culture. Our commitment to innovation supports our customers' priorities of speed, cost, and efficiency. We continue to integrate AI capabilities into our workflow, helping us increase our efficiency and provide greater customer service. By streamlining workflows and automating processes, we can leverage technology to meet business needs without increasing headcount. Our combined technologies distinguish us from the competition and are a clear competitive advantage that enables us to expand our businesses by offering a unique customer experience. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Stephen.
Steven Marks
Thank you, Scott, and good morning, everyone. Today I will provide color on our results, an update on our synergy progress and targets, and walk you through our guidance for full year 2025. I'll start with our fourth quarter results on slide 8. Please note that as we continue to swiftly execute our integration program, we plan to focus on the consolidated business, particularly with the implementation of our FA 5.0 strategy. Our fourth quarter pro forma revenues were $375 million up 0.9% year over year. Our combined business continued to face year on year base headwinds as hiring volumes continued to stabilize, with base remaining negative on a year-on-year basis. This aligned to the trends in the jolts and other data over the last number of quarters. In our legacy first advantage segment America's segment, revenues of $172 million were down 5.5% from the prior year. These results were impacted by the uncertainty among American consumers during 24, which affected our retail and transportation customers' hiring levels. As such, seasonal hiring revenues in Q4 were slightly weaker than expected and lasted for a notably shorter duration compared to prior year and our expectations. Going forward on a total company basis, we expect that our increased diversification with the broader sterling base will help mitigate seasonality impacts on our business. Our legacy first advantage international segment continued to show green shoots across all regions and performed better than we anticipated, with revenues increasing 8.9% to $24 million on a constant currency basis, Legacy first advantage international revenues were up 7.0% year over year. In our legacy sterling segment, pro forma revenues for Q4 were $181 million up 7% year over year, with a 6% contribution from the vault acquisition. These trends in the legacy sterling business largely performed in line with Legacy first advantage America's. Pro forma adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter was $100 million and our pro forma adjusted IATA margin was 26.7%. Down approximately 300 basis points versus the prior year. Legacy first advantage continued to drive margins of nearly 32% as we focus on maintaining our variable cost structure consistent with our historical approach, despite the base and seasonal peak headwinds I previously mentioned. Legacy sterling continued to operate at a lower margin relative to Legacy first advantage as a result of its continued shifting mix to lower margin services, its lower margin from the vault acquisition and its historical operating methodology that results in a more fixed cost approach to fulfillment than legacy first advantage. As part of our integration plans, we are working to adapt the legacy sterling business to have a more variable cost structure, including FA's historical model for fulfillment workforce management. During the fourth quarter, we also identified cost savings above and beyond our normal levers through headcount management, even while diligently integrating Sterling. Turning to full year results on slide 9, our overall annual performance was solid and closely in line with our combined company 2024 guidance ranges for reported revenues, adjusted EPEA, adjusted net income, and adjusted diluted EPS. This is further evidence that we continue to be diligent and successful at controlling what can be controlled within our business despite the uncertain macro environment and its impact on our base volumes. Total pro forma revenues were $1.5 billion up approximately 2% year over year. In our legacy First Advantage America segment for 2024, revenues of $659 million were down 2.1% from the prior year. In our legacy First Advantage International segment, revenues of $97 million were flat first the prior year. But on a constant currency basis, Legacy first advantage international revenues were $96 million or 0.7% or 0.7% year over year. In total, Legacy first advantage revenues were down 2.2%. And in our legacy sterling segment, pro forma revenues were $763 million up 6% year over year, with 6.9% growth from the vault acquisition. Pro forma adjusted EBITDA for the year with $397 million and our pro forma adjusted EBITDA margin was 26.3%, approximately 220 basis points lower year over year. This decline, as previously noted, was driven by Sterling's revenue mix towards lower margin products and the margin impact of the vault acquisition. Turning to slide 10, we are showing a detailed adjusted diluted EPS bridge from full year 2023 to full year 2024, given all of the unique moving parts. Our full year 2024 adjusted net income was $124 million. Adjusted diluted EPS was $0.02, and our adjusted effective tax rate was 24.9%. As noted, when we gave our initial 2024 guidance last year, 2024, adjusted diluted EPS growth was impacted by several of our historical capital allocation actions, including our 2023 one-time special dividend, our 2023 share repurchases, and an expiration of favorable interest rate swaps. Also, as we noted during last quarter's call, the Sterling acquisition was not expected to provide immediate adjusted diluted EPS accretion, as the sterling results were initially more than offset by the incremental interest on the transaction financing and the impact of the share dilution from the issuance of the acquisition shares. All these items were in line with our previous commentary. Over time, as we realize synergies, we continue to anticipate delivering double-digit adjusted diluted EPS secretion as mentioned in previous quarters. On slide 11, you can see how we are making great progress on actioning our synergy program. We previously communicated a goal of achieving $50 million to $70 million in run rate target synergies, which was updated from our original target of $50 million plus. Today we are again updating our target range to $60 million to $70 million of expected synergies to be actioned within two years of close. When we presented last quarter, we highlighted $10 million of synergies already actioned, and we finished 2024 at approximately $20 million and $0.20 million dollars actions representing substantial progress towards our synergy goals. Our dedicated integration management functions, led by product and operations leaders are driving the execution of our plans. As we have been actioning synergies in our integration plans, we have uncovered additional opportunities for cost savings, giving us confidence to raise the lower end of our target range today. Our current focus has been on reducing duplicative costs in our corporate and internal functions and reducing certain redundancies in our fulfillment and commercial departments, and we have been able to action these savings more quickly than previously expected. As a result, we now expect to action 50% plus of our target synergies within the first six months post-closing, a meaningful acceleration from our previous objective of achieving the same goal within the first year. On slide 12, we are showing key growth metrics for legacy first advantage and legacy sterling. Over time, both businesses have consistently delivered strong historical performance for upsell and cross-sell, new customer logos, and attrition, demonstrating our ability to manage and deliver on what we can control with the variation being driven by base. This has been true throughout 2024, including the fourth quarter. And we have been pleased that both businesses combined upsell, cross-sell, and new logo performance, as well as retention have broadly aligned with historical revenue growth rates. This was this was propelled by our go to market momentum throughout the year and ending the year with a strong pipeline, and gross retention remained healthy and stable. In the fourth quarter, revenues continued to be a headwind, with legacy first advantage impacted by weaker than expected Q4 seasonal hiring as the softer hiring peak ended or ended earlier than normal in mid-November. Legacy Sterling saw parallel headwinds as similar late Q4ba softness was seen in Legacy Sterling's America's Business. Base growth at legacy sterling has lagged legacy first advantages as legacy sterling vertical have been more impacted by the normalization of hiring patterns. We believe that when the macro environment stabilizes, our base growth will normalize towards our historical rates. Now turning to cash flow and net leverage on slide 13. Over the last 12 months, we generated adjusted operating cash flows of $165 million a 1% increase on a year over year basis as we continue to closely manage our working capital and focus on cash flow conversion with our VSOs remaining in check. Our cash balance at December 31, 2024 was $169 million finishing above our desired minimum cash level of $150 million. During the quarter we used $10 million for purchases of property and equipment and capitalized software development costs. This was $32 million for the full year. Our synergized pro forma adjusted IAA net leverage ratio at year end was 4.4 times. We remain committed to our goal of reducing net leverage towards approximately three times synergized pro forma adjusted EBITDA within 24 months post close and to our long-term net leverage target of two to three times. Moving to slide 14 in our 2025 guidance, I'll start by noting that all year over year comparisons are on a pro forma basis to allow for easy comparability. We expect 2025 total revenues in the range of $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion adjusted EBITDA of $410 million to $450 million and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.86 to $1.03. For revenue, this range represents flat to a little over 5% year over year pro forma growth. At our guidance midpoint, we expect to expand full year adjusted EBITDA margins by approximately 150 basis points. Also factored into our 2025 guidance are our current assumptions related to sustained mixed shifts within our business, primarily within the sterling segment, which do impact adjusted Ear margins. Our guidance reflects 2025 in-year realization synergies in the range of $25 million to $30 million with our focus being to accelerate our savings wherever possible. Our guidance also includes our latest view on the macro environment and labor market. While labor market broadly looks to be more stable entering 2025, we have not yet seen a return of investment hiring in our verticals. As such, our guidance reflects a prudent posture towards growth in 2025, particularly in the first half of the year. Looking at our growth algorithm in more detail, we do not expect to fully lapse prior year based declines until the middle of 2025. Therefore, our guidance is based on the expectation that base will remain a growth headwind through the middle of the year, improving sequentially and turning to neutral and then slightly positive later in the year. Said more simply, we are modelling slight to modest full year base revenue declines across our entire guidance range. With that said, we do expect continued productivity of upsell and cross sales and new logo growth consistent with historical trends. We also expect customer retention to remain in line with our strong historical performance of around 96% to 97%, even as we continue to integrate the sterling acquisition. While recently FX has not been a big headwind for our business, recent strengthening of the US dollar has led to an expectation that FX will have a slightly larger impact on our business in 2025, an important factor as we have seen our international markets stabilize and return to growth. Looking now at the quarterly phasing of our 2025 guidance, we expect Q1 year over year revenues to decline by approximately 1% to 4% and expect quarterly, year over year revenue growth to sequentially approve for the first three quarters of 2025, with the fourth quarter more on par with the third. This change in anticipated sequential and seasonal growth dynamics is a result of our sterling acquisition, the diversification of vertical exposure, and how that project over the year. We expect our Q1 adjusted IA margin to be in the mid 23% to mid 24% range, which reflects the blended impact of legacy first advantage margins historically in the high 20s and legacy sterling's margins, which have been closer to 20% during the first quarter as seasonal revenues have yet to ramp. Additionally, our pace of synergy realization is expected to drive additional sequential adjusted margin expansion during the year. Starting with Q2, we expect adjusted Eton margins to be above 28%. Overall, we believe that we are extremely well positioned to benefit when the macro environment improves. We expect Q1 adjusted diluted EPS to be between $12.15 due to the seasonality I just mentioned and the impact of the full $2.2 billion dollar acquisition financing. After Q1, we expect considerable adjusted diluted EPS improvement as revenue ramps. We recognize that this guidance implies a meaningful improvement during the year, which is primarily driven by the impacts of the sterling acquisition and our new seasonality and to a much lesser extent, the evolution of our expected macro stabilization. We expect our adjusted diluted EPS to range between the mid to low 20% to 30% to $0.30 per share for each of the last three quarters. We have also provided a summary of selected 2025 modelling assumptions in the presentation appendix. Moving to slide 15, we have provided an adjusted diluted EPS bridge, which illustrates the puts and takes from our 2024 adjusted diluted EPS to our 2025 guidance I just mentioned. This is very important to understand, as the sterling financing and share issuance have 10 months of year over year impact in 2025. Even in our projected neutral macro environment and after adjusting for the sterling acquisition items expected synergy realization in 2025 growth in investments, we expect 2025 adjusted diluted EPS expansion of over 15% at the midpoint. This sets us up well to continue expanding adjusted diluted EPS in the coming years, which is aligned to our previous messaging. With that, let me turn it back to Scott for closing remarks before we open the line for questions. Thank you, Stephen.
Scott Staples
Moving to slide 17 and a few closing comments. First, we are excited to be hosting our inaugural Investor Day on May 28. At that event, we plan to share more about our FA 5.0 strategy and update on our integration program, as well as long-term targets that will guide our business over the coming years. I hope you will be able to participate. Look for more information coming soon. Second, I would like to emphasize our consistent focus at first advantage. We continue to deliver solid results and execute on priorities. We remain focused on delivering on our value creation playbook and shaping the future of our company to better serve our customers. With that, we will open the line for questions.
Operator
Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session at this time. (Operator Instructions) We'll take our first question from Shlomo Rosenbaum with Steel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Shlomo Rosenbaum
Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Could you provide a little bit more detail about some of the weakness in seasonal hiring in retail and transportation, just a little bit more of part of what your clients were telling you about why it happened, the duration, and is this something that you're, is this translating into other areas at all through, the first quarter of the year, or, and then I'd like to ask you a follow up.
Scott Staples
Yes, I think I think it's a great point because this, let's call it a trend has now happened for the last couple of years where we're basically seeing is less of that of the peaks in the valleys and a little bit just more of more normalization as we go into the seasonal hiring period. And what we've seen over the last couple of years is that hiring is starting to slow down around mid-November and continues all the way through the month of December but then picks back up in January. As if we're back on to normal course. So, for the last couple of years what we've seen is, fairly slow half of November, most of December, but no impact going into Q1 as hiring then continues to ramp back up. So, we have factored that into our 2025 guidance that we expect something similar again later this year. So that is definitely factored into our guidance.
Shlomo Rosenbaum
Okay, thanks. And then just the comment that you made about the big win in the healthcare space using the sterling platform, I think what we discussed in the past was the thought that you would move clients, or incremental clients would be on the first advantage platform but using kind of the sterling front end. And I guess the question I've got is that it's great to win with the Sterling platform. Does that mean that you're going to indefinitely be supporting really the back end of Sterling for a long period of time.
Scott Staples
Yeah, so, I got to give a huge shout out to our product and tech teams for coming up with some great innovative ideas here. The whole goal of this integration with Sterling was, no disruption to customers, and I think you can see that in our retention numbers that we that we've put out, we, our retention has been in line with normal, so we are not seeing. Any client disruption as part of this acquisition and that's primarily because of the technology and product vision that our teams have created. So they have it's a very complicated in-depth thing, but I'll give you a high level here. They have come up with a very innovative way for customers to leverage the best of both worlds from both platforms. Regardless of where they are around the world and essentially the technology solutions that we're going to be recreating will allow us to tap in to both platforms and the best in breed approach from both platforms without the clients having to do any migrations. So consider this as a series of upgrades. And yes, that does mean we have to maintain both platforms but not in the same way they're being maintained today so we can. Effectively reduce our headcount and overheads in supporting of the platforms by because of the solution the tech team has come up with. So that'll continue to drive our synergies with no impact to our original plan there, but we just think this is going to be a great experience for clients and for the client's candidates. Thank you.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Andrew Steinerman with JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Andrew Steinerman
Hi, I definitely heard your comments how you know flexible the client approach in post-merger. I was wondering if you're tracking a net promoter score and particularly kind of pre-merger, post-merger so that we could keep. An eye on that and also if you could go back to talking about your verified database now that you know that you have of Sterling's information in that database, could you talk about how much revenues or savings the verified database is producing.
Scott Staples
Yeah, and Andrew, we will continue. First advantage has always been a big believer in net promoter scores on not just our, customers but also their candidates' experience. So, we continue to measure that. Candidate experience we measure the onboarding experience of new logos and we measure the ongoing net promoter scores and I think we've taken it a step further because of the acquisition that we are actively in front of especially the sterling customer base on a on a regular basis, more than usual just to make sure we're hearing all of their needs and concerns and addressing things, And I will tell you they are extremely excited about this acquisition because they are now going to be able to tap into. The best of breed stuff from first advantage, which is, kind of what I was talking about with Shlomo's question. So, customers are definitely anticipating getting the great products and service from First Advantage on the Sterling platform, So, they're going to get the best of both worlds, which is going to be a great situation for them. So that's where we're pretty bullish on our retention numbers and our client satisfaction numbers on the. On the database on the verified side, you heard in my prepared remarks that our proprietary database records are now up to $900 million. The breakdown of that is that Verified is now up to $120 million and our national criminal database is 780. Interesting point about that number is that none of that increase includes the sterling data yet. We haven't, we have not we have not tapped into that yet. There are teams working on it, but we haven't used that. We haven't tapped the sterling data into the databases. The database increases are because of new third party data provider partnerships that we've formed across multiple areas, and that's allowed us to increase the size of the database, but ultimately we also will be adding the sterling data to this, but we just that'll probably be a later in the year project because it takes a long time to clean and format and move over data, but that's what the teams are working on. Great, thank.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Daniel Maxwell
Hey guys, this is Daniel Maxwell on for Andrew today. I appreciate all the commentary on guidance and cadence and everything, maybe. On the on the top line range, do you feel that the low end of the guide embeds, some leeway for a slower than expected recovery in base growth? It seems like a fairly quick recovery that's being embedded from the lower-than-expected Q4 to the breakeven point in the second half. So maybe your thoughts there.
Steven Marks
Yeah, and Daniel, a couple things to keep in mind, as I mentioned in the remarks, across all ranges of our guidance we still expect to be negative for the year. And when you really start to break that down and sequentially, it is a little bit more fun weed to your point, but if you've been following first advantage and sterling long enough, our base decline really started 23 of 2022. So, this is kind of a three-year evolution cycle where, we start to have, the steady. Cos when we get to the back half of the year that have those three years of compounded based declines in them already, and then when you also look at, the macro data and just, kind of the stabilization cycle that's been going on, the pace of change and the hiring trend has flattened out a lot. So, when we looked at our guidance and our budget and our modelling for 2025. We feel good. It's in terms of our base range in there that we've got kind of a fairly wide range of scenarios covered. Obviously, it projects the current stabilization trend to keep going on, but as you get towards the middle of the year, you have those compounding comps, from the prior years, and then, like I mentioned in the call earlier. And then like Scott's mentioned, we've got great productivity out of pipeline, new logo, upsell cost sell, those are triggering, as they always have for both client bases and our combined client base. And as Scott just mentioned a few minutes ago, we're laser focused on retention and those 96 97% retention levels are now our norm.
Scott Staples
And then, I'll add a few things. We're entering 2025 in a very strong position with macro normalization plus strong pipeline conversion. So let's just relook at some of the things we talked about in the opening script. If you look at a year ago, Q4 2023, stand-alone first advantage, landed 10. New winds with ACV of 500k or more. The combined sterling first advantage team landed 25 wins in Q4, and we're having very, a very good start from a pipeline standpoint of 2025, which, gives us confidence in the guidance. In fact, we did mention the large healthcare win which Shlomo asked about, but in the script, we also talked about two other very large US wins which were not that healthcare win. These are two other ones. Those two, wins have a potential to be both of them to be TOP10 customers of first advantage, and probably it'll take a few months to get revenue going, but we expect that revenue to start coming in second half. So again, when you can start a year as fast as we have from a sales and pipeline standpoint. And you can land two deals that potentially could be TOP10 customers for you, that gives us really strong confidence in the second half of the year.
Daniel Maxwell
Great, super helpful. And then if I can squeeze in one follow up maybe more broadly, have you guys gotten any significant insights from customer conversations so far in 2025 and any changes you're seeing to package density or more broadly any changes to client behavior sort of post selection.
Scott Staples
Yeah, we're probably talking to customers more now than we ever did, because as we've said a couple times, our laser focuses on customer retention, and we want to make sure that the communication is. Crystal clear about our product strategy, about our platform strategy, and that how it'll benefit our customers. So yes, we are having more discussions with our customers, and I assume your question is more around what are we hearing from the hiring side and we are hearing normal hiring. We are hearing that, customers are planning on, normal hiring. But again, it's the new normal hiring. It's not the, post pandemic hiring, it's the pre-pandemic hiring. It's, normal cycles. They're anticipating, normal growth. And I don't think the administration has had any impact on their hiring strategies because there's nothing that's really been rolled out from the new administration yet, so we're not hearing anything negative or even positive about that. It's really kind of a non-event in our customers' eyes right now and until the government rolls out something, then we'll obviously react.
Daniel Maxwell
Great, thanks.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Maova Patnier with Barclays. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Manav Patnaik
Hi, good morning. This is Ronan Kennedy. I'm from Manna. Thank you for taking my question. Can I just confirm with the acceleration of the realization for synergies, where the bulk of those are coming from, and if the actions going forward within, the target areas of internal ops fulfillment, product and commercial have changed or the expectation for real realization of benefits there.
Steven Marks
Yeah, Ronan, I mean the acceleration almost was across the board, we talked last call, our initial focus was on those kind of public company costs, dedu de duping executive leadership, some of those baseline M&A 101 type items. As a management team, we kind of challenged ourselves to find avenues to accelerate those synergies and also just it helps with some of the internal integration efforts. So, quite literally it contributed almost from every line of the P&L. We got at the actions, it was a lot of our identified playbook. That's why we didn't take the full range up. We were just able to get confidence in some of the programs we had and then TRY to accelerate as many of them as we could either into 24 or earlier into 25, which is why we know, we now think we're over 50% actioned by the six-month mark. That was the year that was the one-year mark when we had talked previously. I mean you don't get there by just one by one function contributing. It was across all of our work streams.
Manav Patnaik
Got it thank you. That's helpful. And then I guess more broadly speaking with regards to the sterling acquisition and integration progress thus far, that's positive development with regards to acceleration of the synergies. Any other positive developments or surprises, whether it's enhanced customer value prop, the innovation, the product, the resilience, seasonality, and then anything that has been potentially an unpleasant surprise or your kind of learning versus your expectations.
Scott Staples
Yeah, I think, listen, it's been a big effort. We've got a lot of people working on this and obviously, we closed on Halloween, so we really couldn't get under the hood until November first. I'd say the biggest, pleasant surprise by far has been the culture match. It's just amazing how well these teams are working together, especially on the go to market side and on the product side and operation side. Those are three big areas. Where the teams are working so well together and it's really because there's a culture match. I think that the biggest thing that can derail any M&A is cultures that don't match and we've got two high performing cultures that are working, really well together. We're also finding a lot of good, like I would call them nuggets on the product side and on the API integration sides with data. So again, this goes back to the best of breed comment where we have found that Sterling was doing some good things on the tech and product side. Obviously first advantage is doing a lot of great things on the tech product and automation side. And what we'll be able to do is turn on those things for legacy first advantage customers that we feel that Sterling was doing a good job on and legacy sterling customers for the things that first advantage. A good job on and these will all be behind the scenes type of upgrades that client really won't see but will feel and they'll feel in output in terms of faster turnaround times, higher quality, etc. So that's why the clients are so excited about, where this tech journey can bring them because they're seeing. The best of both world products that are platforms that are out there and they're going to have they're going to start tapping into these and we're already rolling these out. These are things that you know we've already started rolling out to legacy sterling clients and legacy first advantage clients and you know we have, product road maps where you know we're going to be rolling out nice upgrades almost monthly now so clients will really start to feel and see this. On the negative side, not really, obviously, the big concern is margins, and you know that's still going to, drag a bit for us, but we've got a good plan and obviously you guys know our track record on margins. I mean look at Q4 alone, it was down from a base standpoint, but we delivered 32%. Even a margin on legacy first advantage. So, we know how to improve margin, and we've just got some work to do on it, but we've got a great plan in place.
Manav Patnaik
Thank you, appreciate it.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Jeff Silber
Thank you so much. Just wanted to go back to the synergy. You talked about first advantage being more of a variable model than what you've seen in Sterling. Can you give some examples of, how you're doing that, what you're doing from Sterling's legacy business to change that?
Scott Staples
Yeah, Jeff, and welcome to the calls. Certainly, first advantage we've always looked at our fulfillment and operations functions as having a highly variable nature to them. Our third-party cost of sales, and that's fairly consistent with sterling, are almost 100% volume variable, but certainly on the labor side we have a very flexible staffing approach where, we do our modelling on. And then staff to a metric related to that and then use overtime variable shifts, weekends, etc. To modulate the available labor to the inbound orders in a pretty one to one matching ratio. I think a lot of others in our industry and Sterling included, had a little bit more of a fixed cost mindset where they staff to a kind of an underlying assumption. And then it was a fixed cost. They had 40 hours per week per employee, if you will, and we've looked at some of that that margin there, that tail end of the of the base volumes as we can use that variable function of our labor and that workforce management, it takes some time to adapt and kind of put the right tracking tools and forecasting tools and then planning tools in place, but that's been a focus. Of the operations team since day one, we're called 120 days in and we're getting very close to having some of those methodologies across the board. So that's how we handle it from a staffing standpoint. And then, I think the other big margin difference between first advantage and sterling has just been some of the shift in mix and as we've talked about a couple times, and this is coupled into our integration and synergy program. Sterling with their vault acquisition had their legacy, drug and healthcare wellness program. They had the one they acquired from Vault. First Advantage has all of that in our wellness platform as well. So, part of our synergy and integration program is harmonizing that down instead of having three of everything effectively to get to one best in class. so Between instilling that workforce management and then kind of duplicating the fulfillment of some of those wellness which are the lower mix services that we've been referring to, lower margin mix that we've been referring to, that's all on our game plan for 2025 and part of that, 150 basis point lift up at the margin at the midpoint.
Steven Marks
And Jeff, let me add that, we'll, we also have a, plan to, reduce headcount on the sterling side through automation. First advantage was, highly automated and, as we again roll out that best of breed automation to legacy sterling clients that will allow us to give some flexibility on the headcount side and a great example of that is, I think you guys have heard, for over a year now about our click chat call functionality on customer care. And Sterling didn't doesn't have that and so we'll be rolling that out, in the very near term to legacy Sterling customers which will give them the advantage of using chat, AI chat to get order status and things like that which will allow us to, rationalize some of the headcount on that side and as we roll out, even, things like agentic AI, we expect, even, further synergies on the headcount side. So, we're feeling pretty good about how we can, optimize, both organizations headcount with automation.
Jeff Silber
Right, that's really helpful. And then in your press release, you say the expected dates will remain a headwind through the middle of the year. Is it just that the comps get easier in the back half of the year? Are you expecting any major changes from a macro perspective? Any color would be great.
Scott Staples
Yeah, I mean, Jeff, that the fundamentals of it is a, you've got easier comps and as I mentioned a little while ago, right, it's your third year of compounded base declines when you get to the middle of the year. So that certainly is a major factor. And then also it's just there has been a broad stabilization trend and we're just seeing that start to play out, when you look at the hiring volumes and some of the other metrics, those have all been declining now for a couple of years, but the pace of decline has flattened out a lot over the last three to six months. And we kind of expect that normalization and stabilization to continue and then once you get to the middle of the year, you've got that stabilization trend compounded with those easier comps is kind of what drives it. But like I said a couple of times, when you zoom out and look at the year as a total, we still accept, in all parts of our range face to be negative.
Steven Marks
The only thing I would throw in there too is, that the sales engine has been, firing at all cylinders for a while now, so we will be, we'll get some revenue conversion, that things that go from new logo or upsell cross sale into base, that will start helping us, in the latter half of the year as well.
Jeff Silber
All right, thanks so much.
Operator
And as a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question today, (Operator Instructions) We'll take our next question from Kyle Peterson with Needham. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Kyle Peterson
Great, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. Wanted to start off on, some of the expectations for, vertical performance this year. I know there's some. Some moving pieces and different mix, especially between, legacy first advantage and sterling. So, I guess any color, or any assumptions embedded in your guidance for whether it's vertical, so you expect to be particularly strong or bigger headwinds, in 2025, I think would be really helpful.
Steven Marks
Yeah, Kyle, I think not a lot of specific verticals to call out from a base perspective because you know that normalization trend and now that we're kind of hitting year three, it's kind of made its way through all of them. I know you know in the past on the legacy FA side we've highlighted the strength of retail and transportation, but like Scott mentioned not that long ago, the updated assumptions and trends around peak are certainly baked into our guidance, and I think that, guidance pretty well now has its. And across all verticals that stabilization trend, I think the call out that I would say and like Scott just mentioned is, the pipeline and momentum and go to market, we highlighted the deal in retail, the deal in health care that Scott's talked about. Those will help drive strengthen those, obviously, but from that controllable revenue standpoint, that upsell, cross sell new logo, and then retention trends are strong across all verticals.
Scott Staples
And also, Kyle, we expect that international rebound will continue. You know what we've seen out of international in the last two quarters has been very encouraging. So we expect international, even though even though it's only 13% of the business, we expect that to continue to rebound nicely. Got it. That's really helpful, and I guess just a follow up and kind of switching over into the balance sheet and leverage, appreciate all the color and the margins are solid and should get better as the year progresses. How are you guys thinking about, the pace of, deleveraging and, priorities here whether it's just, building cash and scaling you or you guys looking at, potentially. Pre-paying some debt, like, how should we kind of think about, your plans for the balance sheet, over the next, few quarters here. Yeah, well, certainly, Kyle, to start right, we do have some, a little about $5 million mandatory prepayments that we'll make on schedule at the end of every quarter that starts here in March. So, there'll be there's about $22 million of that, baked into our model and should be baked into assumptions at a minimum, we do expect, free cash flow, to be positive obviously in the year somewhere in the $55 million to $85 million dollar range is based on our guidance. And then when you kind of convert that over to leverage, there will be some deleveraging, but the synergy programs, even if we've got half of those executed midway through the year, let's call it 2026 will be the real year of deleveraging because you'll have the full year run rate benefit of those in your actual results and in your cash flow, but there will be some modesty leveraging in 2025.
Kyle Peterson
Okay. Appreciate all the color and thanks for taking the questions guys.
Operator
We'll take our next question from Scott Wertzel with Woolf Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
Scott Wurtzel
Hey, good morning, guys. Thank you for taking my questions. I just wanted to touch on the acceleration and growth on the legacy sterling upsell cross sale, and if you can touch on what has driven that over the last couple of quarters and then if there is anything, on their go to market side that they're executing on that you may think you can maybe fold into the FA sales force to, maybe realize some incremental, upsell, cross sale acceleration growth on your side as well. Thanks.
Steven Marks
Yeah, so Scott, mechanically on the on the legacy sterling side they had a couple larger upsells. I think they announced it the last time they did earnings, but it was the end of 2023 that went live in 2024 that was on their healthcare spaces and in some of those medical services that was their largest ever upsell. So obviously we got the full year. Benefit of that essentially in their 2024 results and I'll let Scott give some more color on in a second, but the Sterling, productivity out of frankly the entire sales force, including the Sterling team, has been phenomenal. We've got, even if you look at the more recent success, 25 enterprise bookings in Q4. If you look at last year's stand-alone FA was only 10. So not only did the transaction not distract the teams from productivity, but we've actually outperformed the prior year, if you will. I mean you just double them up from kind of the relative scale. So I think, the vault acquisition they did, while the margins aren't what we would desire, it gave Sterling a couple new avenues to cross sell into their base, and they've done a really nice job of executing on that plan.
Scott Staples
Scott, the only thing I would add is, as I mentioned earlier, especially the go to market teams are working extremely well together. It's almost like, we've been together for years now, not months, and I think, one, it's important to talk about numbers like 25 wins last quarter and obviously a great start to the year. So, the numbers are significant. But what's more important is that that shows that there's no hesitation in the market about this acquisition, that new logos are still coming to us and actually now maybe are coming to us at an accelerated rate because of The combined entity, the tech story, the best of breed story that's out there, the deep vertical story that we've got. So, we're obviously encouraged by the numbers themselves, but what's more important is that the sentiment in the in the new logo space, is certainly in favor of the merger.
Scott Wurtzel
Yeah, that's super helpful. And then just as a quick follow up on guidance, I know you're orienting towards the pro forma growth, but just wondering if there's any color you can give on your expectations for legacy first advantage growth for the year. Thanks
Steven Marks
Yeah, I mean, largely, Scott, I mean the two segments of the two, historical businesses are relatively in line, as I mentioned, we're kind of expecting the historical growth algorithms upsell, cross sell, new logo and retention to be in line. Candidly, like you've heard the story Scott mentioned, the lines get a little blurred because, there's a pipeline op. That developed out of legacy first advantage that the legacy sterling, front end platform may be the best solution, and we've had situations where the opposite is true too. So that's kind of why we're starting to look at things on a consolidated basis because it's we're able to leverage our combined strengths to impact the consolidated customer base versus kind of looking at the businesses and, as two stand-alone but I would, just looking at the trends, largely, the base trends are in line and, new logo cross sell, between the two legacy businesses are largely in line. There's nothing distinct between the two that makes you say one's going to completely perform differently than the other.
Scott Staples
I would just add that you know I think it's important to note we're not thinking that way anymore. I think what what's given us a lot of success in the early days of this integration is to not think about legacy first advantage and legacy sterling. In fact, those are words we don't use anymore internally. We'll use them with you today because obviously there's financial things we need to separate, but we don't say those words anymore internally. We're operating as one company. So, I think when you look at, what's going to happen in these businesses, we see it as one business going forward and that's you can also see in our arch structures and if you look at our go to market team, for example, it's about 50/50 sterling leaders, first advantage leaders, and you know we've got sterling leaders now running first advantage accounts and first advantage leaders running sterling accounts. It's one company going forward. It's this new co mentality that has really galvanized the team and has given us a lot of momentum. So I appreciate the question, but I just think it's important to note that culturally and organically and structurally we are not thinking legacy anything anymore.
Scott Wurtzel
Got it. Thanks, Chris.
Operator
And there are no further questions on the line at this time. I'll return the programs to our speakers for any closing remarks.
Scott Staples
Well, listen, I want to thank everybody for joining the call today. Thanks for the continued support and the first advantage story. Look forward to connecting. Take care.
Operator
Thank you all for joining us today and thank you for your participation. This concludes the first advantage; fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call and webcast. At this time, you may disconnect your line and have a wonderful day.
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Looking ahead, we will remain vigilant in monitoring our financial performance and making strategic decisions to ensure the long-term success and sustainability of our development.' First Quarter 2025 Unaudited Financial ResultsNet revenues for the first quarter of 2025 were RMB21.7 million (US$3.0 million), representing a year-over-year decrease of 15.0% from RMB25.5 million in the first quarter of 2024. 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Gross margin for the first quarter of 2025 was 36.2%, compared with 38.4% in the first quarter of following table sets forth a breakdown of operating expenses by amounts and percentages of revenue during the periods indicated (in thousands, except for percentages): For the three months ended March 31, 2024 2025 Year- RMB % RMB USD % over-year Sales and marketing expenses 18,787 73.7 % 13,013 1,793 60.1 % -30.7 % Research and development expenses 19,081 74.8 % 12,592 1,735 58.1 % -34.0 % General and administrative expenses 34,845 136.6 % 16,101 2,219 74.3 % -53.8 % Total operating expenses 72,713 285.1 % 41,706 5,747 192.5 % -42.6 % Total operating expenses for the first quarter of 2025 were RMB41.7 million (US$5.7 million), including RMB8.5 million (US$1.2 million) of share-based compensation expenses, representing a year-over-year decrease of 42.6% from RMB72.7 million in the first quarter of 2024. Sales and marketing expenses for the first quarter of 2025 were RMB13.0 million (US$1.8 million), including RMB2.1 million (US$0.3 million) of share-based compensation expenses, representing a year-over-year decrease of 30.7% from RMB18.8 million in the first quarter of 2024. This was mainly due to efficiency improvements in marketing and sales work force and expenses compared with the same period last year. Research and development expenses for the first quarter of 2025 were RMB12.6 million (US$1.7 million), including RMB2.4 million (US$0.3 million) of share-based compensation expenses, representing a year-over-year decrease of 34.0% from RMB19.1 million in the first quarter of 2024. The decrease was primarily due to the decrease in the share-based compensation and efficiency improvements in our research and development work force and expenses compared with the same period last year. General and administrative expenses for the first quarter of 2025 were RMB16.1 million (US$2.2 million), including RMB4.1 million (US$0.6 million) of share-based compensation expenses, representing a year-over-year decrease of 53.8% from RMB34.8 million in the first quarter of 2024. The increase was primarily due to the decrease in the share-based compensation and staff optimization in line with business from operations for the first quarter of 2025 was RMB33.9 million (US$4.7 million), compared with RMB62.9 million in the first quarter of 2024. Loss from operations as a percentage of net revenues for the first quarter of 2025 was negative 156.3%, compared with negative 246.7% in the first quarter of loss for the first quarter of 2025 was RMB30.9 million (US$4.3 million), compared with net loss of RMB56.1 million in the first quarter of 2024. Net loss as a percentage of net revenues was negative 142.8% in the first quarter of 2025, compared with negative 219.9% in the first quarter of net loss (non-GAAP) for the first quarter of 2025 was RMB22.4 million (US$3.1 million), compared with adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) of RMB42.7 million in the first quarter of 2024. Adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) as a percentage of net revenues was negative 103.4% in the first quarter of 2025, compared with negative 167.4% of adjusted net loss (non-GAAP) as a percentage of net revenues in the first quarter of 2024. Please refer to the table captioned 'Reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures' at the end of this press release for a reconciliation of net loss under U.S. GAAP to adjusted net loss (non-GAAP).Cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash and term deposit were RMB333.3 million (US$45.9 million) as of March 31, 2025, compared with RMB359.3 million as of December 31, 2024. Conference Call Information The Company will hold a conference call on Tuesday, June 10, 2025 at 9:00 p.m. U.S. Eastern Time (Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at 9:00 a.m. Beijing time) to discuss the financial results for the first quarter of 2025. Please note that all participants will need to preregister for the conference call participation by navigating to Upon registration, you will receive an email containing participant dial-in numbers, and PIN number. To join the conference call, please dial the number you receive, enter the PIN number, and you will be joined to the conference call instantly. Additionally, a live and archived webcast of this conference call will be available at Non-GAAP Financial Measures 17EdTech's management uses adjusted net loss as a non-GAAP financial measure to gain an understanding of 17EdTech's comparative operating performance and future prospects. Adjusted net income (loss) represents net loss excluding share-based compensation expenses and such adjustment has no impact on income tax. Adjusted net income (loss) is used by 17EdTech's management in their financial and operating decision-making as a non-GAAP financial measure; because management believes it reflects 17EdTech's ongoing business and operating performance in a manner that allows meaningful period-to-period comparisons. 17EdTech's management believes that such non-GAAP measure provides useful information to investors and others in understanding and evaluating 17EdTech's operating performance in the same manner as management does, if they so choose. Specifically, 17EdTech believes the non-GAAP measure provides useful information to both management and investors by excluding certain charges that the Company believes are not indicative of its core operating results. The non-GAAP financial measure has limitations. It does not include all items of income and expense that affect 17EdTech's income from operations. Specifically, the non-GAAP financial measure is not prepared in accordance with GAAP, may not be comparable to non-GAAP financial measures used by other companies and, with respect to the non-GAAP financial measure that excludes certain items under GAAP, does not reflect any benefit that such items may confer to 17EdTech. Management compensates for these limitations by also considering 17EdTech's financial results as determined in accordance with GAAP. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered superior to, in isolation from or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with US GAAP. Exchange Rate Information The Company's business is primarily conducted in China and all of the revenues are denominated in Renminbi ('RMB'). However, periodic reports made to shareholders will include current period amounts translated into U.S. dollars ('USD' or 'US$') using the exchange rate as of balance sheet date, for the convenience of the readers. Translations of balances in the consolidated balance sheets and the related consolidated statements of operations, comprehensive loss, change in shareholders' deficit and cash flows from RMB into USD as of and for the three months ended March 31, 2025 are solely for the convenience of the readers and were calculated at the rate of US$1.00=RMB7.2567 representing the noon buying rate set forth in the H.10 statistical release of the U.S. Federal Reserve Board on March 31, 2025. No representation is made that the RMB amounts could have been, or could be, converted, realized or settled into US$ at that rate on March 31, 2025, or at any other rate. Changes in Board and Management The Company announced that Mr. Jiawei Gan has retired as an independent director of the board of directors of the Company (the 'Board'), and Mr. Gui Jia has been appointed as an independent director and a member of the Audit Committee, the Compensation Committee and the Nominating and Corporate Governance Committee of the Board, both effective immediately. Mr. Gui Jia has over 14 years of experience in fintech and education industries. Since 2016, he has served as co-founder and chief operating officer of Hunan Niutoubang Technology Co., Ltd. ('NewBanker'), a digital wealth management solutions provider. From 2014 to 2016, Mr. Jia served as executive assistant to the chief executive officer of Credit Ease Wealth Management (Beijing) Co., Ltd., a wealth management firm headquartered in Beijing, China. From 2009 to 2013, Mr. Jia held multiple managerial positions in education technology companies such as New Oriental Education and Technology Inc.. Mr. Jia received his bachelor's degree in applied physics in 2007 and his master's degree in condensed matter physics in 2009, both from University of Science and Technology Beijing. The Company further announced that Mr. Michael Chao Du has resigned as a director and Chief Financial Officer. Ms. Sishi Zhou has been appointed as the Acting Chief Financial Officer of the Company, effective immediately. Ms. Sishi Zhou joined the Company in December 2020, and has served as the Company's Finance Director since June 2022, responsible for overall financial operations including financial reporting, business analysis, budgeting, compliance, treasury and taxation. She has also led the strategy department of the Company to manage strategic planning, execute key corporate initiatives and incorporate financial analysis and resource planning. Prior to joining the Company, Ms. Zhou held multiple advisory positions in strategic finance at Shell plc (China), and served as Senior Finance Manager in multiple organizations as well as Senior Auditor at PwC Zhong Tian CPAs LLP. Ms. Zhou received her dual bachelor's degrees in accounting and law from Tsinghua University in 2011 and her MBA from Peking University's Guanghua School of Management in 2023. Mr. Andy Chang Liu, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of the Company, commented, 'We are pleased to welcome Mr. Gui Jia and Ms. Sishi Zhou to our leadership team. Mr. Jia's profound fintech experience and Ms. Zhou's financial stewardship will be instrumental as we drive forward our next phase of strategic development. We also express our sincere gratitude to both Mr. Michael Chao Du and Mr. Jiawei Gan for their contributions during their tenure with the Company.' About 17 Education & Technology Group Inc. 17 Education & Technology Group Inc. is a leading education technology company in China, offering smart in-school classroom solution that delivers data-driven teaching, learning and assessment products to teachers, students and parents. Leveraging its extensive knowledge and expertise obtained from in-school business over the past decade, the Company provides teaching and learning SaaS offerings to facilitate the digital transformation and upgrade at Chinese schools, with a focus on improving the efficiency and effectiveness of core teaching and learning scenarios such as homework assignments and in-class teaching. The product utilizes the Company's technology and data insights to provide personalized and targeted learning and exercise content that is aimed at improving students' learning efficiency. Safe Harbor Statement This announcement contains forward-looking statements. These statements are made under the 'safe harbor' provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements can be identified by terminology such as 'will,' 'expects,' 'anticipates,' 'future,' 'intends,' 'plans,' 'believes,' 'estimates' and similar statements. Statements that are not historical facts, including statements about 17EdTech's beliefs and expectations, are forward-looking statements. 17EdTech may also make written or oral forward-looking statements in its periodic reports to the SEC, in its annual report to shareholders, in press releases and other written materials and in oral statements made by its officers, directors or employees to third parties. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statement, including but not limited to the following: 17EdTech's growth strategies; its future business development, financial condition and results of operations; its ability to continue to attract and retain users; its ability to carry out its business and organization transformation, its ability to implement and grow its new business initiatives; the trends in, and size of, China's online education market; competition in and relevant government policies and regulations relating to China's online education market; its expectations regarding demand for, and market acceptance of, its products and services; its expectations regarding its relationships with business partners; general economic and business conditions; and assumptions underlying or related to any of the foregoing. Further information regarding these and other risks is included in 17EdTech's filings with the SEC. All information provided in this press release is as of the date of this press release, and 17EdTech does not undertake any obligation to update any forward-looking statement, except as required under applicable law. For investor and media inquiries, please contact: 17 Education & Technology Group Inc. Ms. Lara ZhaoInvestor Relations ManagerE-mail: ir@ EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY GROUP INC. UNAUDITED CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS (In thousands of RMB and USD, except for share and per ADS data, or otherwise noted) As ofDecember 31, As of March 31, 2024 2025 2025 RMB RMB USD ASSETS Current assets Cash and cash equivalents 234,144 270,406 37,263 Restricted cash 49 49 7 Term deposits 125,108 62,854 8,662 Accounts receivable 67,097 60,160 8,290 Prepaid expenses and other current assets 82,513 82,407 11,356 Total current assets 508,911 475,876 65,578 Non-current assets Property and equipment, net 26,410 27,362 3,771 Right-of-use assets 11,768 12,529 1,727 Other non-current assets 2,428 2,417 333 TOTAL ASSETS 549,517 518,184 71,409 LIABILITIES Current liabilities Accrued expenses and other current liabilities 104,422 100,795 13,890 Deferred revenue and customer advances, current 40,397 36,851 5,078 Operating lease liabilities, current 6,798 5,772 795 Total current liabilities 151,617 143,418 19,763 As ofDecember 31, As of March 31, 2024 2025 2025 RMB RMB USD Non-current liabilities Operating lease liabilities, non-current 4,261 6,050 834 TOTAL LIABILITIES 155,878 149,468 20,597 SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY Class A ordinary shares 241 243 33 Class B ordinary shares 81 81 11 Treasury stock (34 ) (36 ) (5 ) Additional paid-in capital 11,070,615 11,078,177 1,526,614 Accumulated other comprehensive income 86,410 84,869 11,695 Accumulated deficit (10,763,674 ) (10,794,618 ) (1,487,536 ) TOTAL SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY 393,639 368,716 50,812 TOTAL LIABILITIES AND SHAREHOLDERS' EQUITY 549,517 518,184 71,409 17 EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY GROUP INC. UNAUDITED CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS (In thousands of RMB and USD, except for share and per ADS data, or otherwise noted) For the three months ended March 31, 2024 2025 2025 RMB RMB USD Net revenues 25,501 21,668 2,986 Cost of revenues (15,699 ) (13,835 ) (1,907 ) Gross profit 9,802 7,833 1,079 Operating expenses (Note 1) Sales and marketing expenses (18,787 ) (13,013 ) (1,793 ) Research and development expenses (19,081 ) (12,592 ) (1,735 ) General and administrative expenses (34,845 ) (16,101 ) (2,219 ) Total operating expenses (72,713 ) (41,706 ) (5,747 ) Loss from operations (62,911 ) (33,873 ) (4,668 ) Interest income 5,137 2,676 369 Foreign currency exchange gain(loss) 160 (67 ) (9 ) Other income, net 1,537 320 44 Loss before provision for income tax and loss from equity method investments (56,077 ) (30,944 ) (4,264 ) Income tax expenses — — — Net loss (56,077 ) (30,944 ) (4,264 ) Net loss available to ordinary shareholders of 17 (56,077 ) (30,944 ) (4,264 ) Education & Technology Group Inc. Net loss per ordinary share Basic and diluted (0.14 ) (0.07 ) (0.01 ) Net loss per ADS (Note 2) Basic and diluted (7.00 ) (3.50 ) (0.50 ) Weighted average shares used in calculating net loss per ordinary share Basic and diluted 387,566,725 462,312,173 462,312,173 Note 1: Share-based compensation expenses were included in the operating expenses as follows: For the three months ended March 31, 2024 2025 2025 RMB RMB USD Share-based compensation expenses: Sales and marketing expenses 2,026 2,093 288 Research and development expenses 3,780 2,397 330 General and administrative expenses 7,582 4,056 559 Total 13,388 8,546 1,177 Note 2: Each one ADS represents fifty Class A ordinary shares. 17 EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY GROUP INC. Reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures (In thousands of RMB and USD, except for share, per share and per ADS data) For the three months ended March 31, 2024 2025 2025 RMB RMB USD Net Loss (56,077 ) (30,944 ) (4,264 ) Share-based compensation 13,388 8,546 1,177 Income tax effect — — — Adjusted net loss (42,689 ) (22,398 ) (3,087 )Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data
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MIND TECHNOLOGY, INC. REPORTS FISCAL 2026 FIRST QUARTER RESULTS
THE WOODLANDS, Texas, June 10, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- MIND Technology, Inc. (NASDAQ: MIND) ("MIND" or the "Company") today announced financial results for its fiscal 2026 first quarter ended April 30, 2025. Revenues for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 were approximately $7.9 million compared to $15.0 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 and $9.7 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2025. The Company reported an operating loss of approximately $658,000 for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 compared to operating income of $2.8 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 and $730,000 for the first quarter of fiscal 2025. Net loss for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 amounted to $970,000 compared to net income of $2.0 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 and $954,000 for the first quarter of fiscal 2025. Net loss attributable to common stockholders was $970,000, or a loss of $0.12 per share for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 compared to net income attributable to common stockholders of $2.0 million, or $0.25 per share for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 and $7,000, or less than $0.01 per share for the first quarter of fiscal 2025. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations for the first quarter of fiscal 2026 was a loss of approximately $179,000 compared to income of $3.0 million for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025 and $1.5 million for the first quarter of fiscal 2025. Adjusted EBITDA from continuing operations, which is a non-GAAP measure, is defined and reconciled to reported net income (loss) from continuing operations and cash used in operating activities in the accompanying financial tables. These are the most directly comparable financial measures calculated and presented in accordance with United States generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP. The backlog of Marine Technology Products as of April 30, 2025 related to our Seamap segment was approximately $21.1 million compared to $16.2 million at January 31, 2025 and $31 million at April 30, 2024. Rob Capps, MIND's President and Chief Executive Officer, stated, "As expected, MIND's results for the first quarter were down sequentially after a record fourth quarter. This revenue decline was further driven by approximately $5.5 million of orders that, while completed, were not shipped prior to quarter end because either the delivery of third-party components was delayed, or the customers were unable to arrange delivery. We now expect to deliver these orders in the second quarter. Despite these delays, cash flow from operations grew again during the quarter to approximately $4.1 million, resulting in a quarter-end cash balance of approximately $9.2 million. This is an indication of our much-improved liquidity. "Variability in customer delivery requirements is nothing new for us. We have taken meaningful strides in optimizing our operations, which enables us to control what we can control. Our backlog, pipeline of business and the general market tailwinds give us solid footing to deliver another year of strong financial results in fiscal 2026. As we have said in the past, order flow is often uneven. We believe recent uncertainty in the global economic climate has caused some delays in purchase commitments. However, in recent weeks new opportunities have presented themselves which gives us added confidence in this fiscal year and beyond. We are confident that our long-term positive trajectory remains intact. "We normally see increased general and administrative costs in the first quarter of our fiscal year. This normal seasonality was exacerbated by non-recurring costs related to a reorganization of our U.K. operations and third-party analysis of our income tax position following last year's preferred stock conversion. This analysis supported our position that our U.S. tax attributes, including tax loss carryforwards, have not been impaired due to the preferred stock conversion into common stock. "Looking forward, I continue to be encouraged by the opportunities that lay ahead. We are still a small company, which comes with inherent challenges. However, the strength of our balance sheet has made MIND more resilient, financially flexible, and has opened the door for us to pursue value-enhancing, strategic opportunities as we strive for growth. Our focus continues to be on positioning MIND to achieve its full potential," concluded Capps. CONFERENCE CALL Management has scheduled a conference call for Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at 9:00 a.m. Eastern Time (8:00 a.m. Central Time) to discuss the Company's fiscal 2026 first quarter results. To access the call, please dial (412) 902-0030 and ask for the MIND Technology call at least 10 minutes prior to the start time. Investors may also listen to the conference live on the MIND Technology website, by logging onto the site and clicking "Investor Relations". A telephonic replay of the conference call will be available through June 18, 2025, and may be accessed by calling (201) 612-7415 and using passcode 13753958#. A webcast archive will also be available at shortly after the call and will be accessible for approximately 90 days. For more information, please contact Dennard Lascar Investor Relations by email at MIND@ ABOUT MIND TECHNOLOGY MIND Technology, Inc. provides technology to the oceanographic, hydrographic, defense, seismic and security industries. Headquartered in The Woodlands, Texas, MIND has a global presence with key operating locations in the United States, Singapore, Malaysia, and the United Kingdom. Its Seamap unit designs, manufactures and sells specialized, high performance, marine exploration and survey equipment. Forward-looking Statements Certain statements and information in this press release concerning results for the quarter ended April 30, 2025 may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements contained in this press release other than statements of historical fact, including statements regarding our future results of operations and financial position, our business strategy and plans, and our objectives for future operations, are forward-looking statements. The words "believe," "expect," "anticipate," "plan," "intend," "should," "would," "could" or other similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements, which are generally not historical in nature. These forward-looking statements are based on our current expectations and beliefs concerning future developments and their potential effect on us. While management believes that these forward-looking statements are reasonable as and when made, there can be no assurance that future developments affecting us will be those that we anticipate. All comments concerning our expectations for future revenues and operating results are based on our forecasts of our existing operations and do not include the potential impact of any future acquisitions or dispositions. Our forward-looking statements involve significant risks and uncertainties (some of which are beyond our control) and assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from our historical experience and our present expectations or projections. These risks and uncertainties include, without limitation, reductions in our customers' capital budgets, our own capital budget, limitations on the availability of capital or higher costs of capital, and volatility in commodity prices for oil and natural gas. For additional information regarding known material factors that could cause our actual results to differ from our projected results, please see our filings with the SEC, including our Annual Report on Form 10-K, Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q and Current Reports on Form 8-K. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date hereof. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements after the date they are made, unless required by law, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. All forward-looking statements included in this press release are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained or referred to herein. Non-GAAP Financial Measures Certain statements and information in this press release contain non-GAAP financial measures. Generally, a non-GAAP financial measure is a numerical measure of a company's performance, financial position, or cash flows that either excludes or includes amounts that are not normally excluded or included in the most directly comparable measure calculated and presented in accordance with United States generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP. Company management believes that these non-GAAP financial measures, when considered together with the GAAP financial measures, provide information that is useful to investors in understanding period-over-period operating results separate and apart from items that may, or could, have a disproportionately positive or negative impact on results in any particular period. Company management also believes that these non-GAAP financial measures enhance the ability of investors to analyze the Company's business trends and to understand the Company's performance. In addition, the Company may utilize non-GAAP financial measures as guides in its forecasting, budgeting, and long-term planning processes and to measure operating performance for some management compensation purposes. Any analysis of non-GAAP financial measures should be used only in conjunction with results presented in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of Backlog, which is a non-GAAP financial measure, is not included in this press release due to the inherent difficulty and impracticality of quantifying certain amounts that would be required to calculate the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. -Tables to Follow- MIND TECHNOLOGY, INC. CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEETS (in thousands, except per share data) (unaudited)April 30, 2025 January 31, 2025ASSETSCurrent assets: Cash and cash equivalents$ 9,172 $ 5,336Accounts receivable, net of allowance for credit losses of $332 at each of April 30, 2025 and January 31, 2025 7,77911,817Inventories, net 13,44713,745Prepaid expenses and other current assets 1,3101,217Total current assets 31,70832,115Property and equipment, net 1,048890Operating lease right-of-use assets 1,2211,320Intangible assets, net 2,1622,308Deferred tax asset 8787Total assets$ 36,226 $ 36,720LIABILITIES AND STOCKHOLDERS' EQUITYCurrent liabilities: Accounts payable$ 2,011 $ 2,558Deferred revenue 514189Customer deposits 1,8071,603Accrued expenses and other current liabilities 1,3581,245Income taxes payable 2,6812,473Operating lease liabilities - current 570577Total current liabilities 8,9418,645Operating lease liabilities - non-current 651743Total liabilities 9,5929,388Stockholders' equity: Common stock, $0.01 par value; 40,000 shares authorized; 7,969 shares issued and outstanding at April 30, 2025 and January 31, 2025 8080Additional paid-in capital 135,938135,666Accumulated deficit (109,418)(108,448)Accumulated other comprehensive gain 3434Total stockholders' equity 26,63427,332Total liabilities and stockholders' equity$ 36,226 $ 36,720 MIND TECHNOLOGY, INC. CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF OPERATIONS (in thousands, except per share data) (unaudited)For the Three Months Ended April 30,2025 2024Revenues: Sales of marine technology products$ 7,902 $ 9,678Cost of sales: Sales of marine technology products 4,5715,460Gross profit 3,3314,218Operating expenses: Selling, general and administrative 3,3842,759Research and development 380462Depreciation and amortization 225267Total operating expenses 3,9893,488Operating income (loss) (658)730Other income (expense): Other, net (18)469Total other income (expense) (18)469Income (loss) before income taxes (676)1,199Provision for income taxes (294)(245)Net income (loss)$ (970) $ 954Preferred stock dividends - undeclared —(947)Net income (loss) attributable to common stockholders$ (970) $ 7Net loss per common share - Basic and diluted Net loss$ (0.12) $ —Shares used in computing net income (loss) per common share: Basic and diluted 7,9691,406 MIND TECHNOLOGY, INC. CONDENSED CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF CASH FLOWS (in thousands) (unaudited)For the Three Months Ended April 30,2025 2024Cash flows from operating activities: Net income (loss)$ (970) $ 954Adjustments to reconcile net income (loss) to net cash provided by (used in) operating activities: Depreciation and amortization 225267Stock-based compensation 27248Provision for inventory obsolescence 1523Gross profit from sale of other equipment —(457)Changes in: Accounts receivable 3,969(2,837)Unbilled revenue 16(10)Inventories 282(2,812)Prepaid expenses and other current and long-term assets (92)100Income taxes receivable and payable 208(186)Accounts payable, accrued expenses and other current liabilities (386)277Deferred revenue and customer deposits 529(120)Net cash provided by (used in) operating activities 4,068(4,753)Cash flows from investing activities: Purchases of property and equipment (237)(66)Sale of other equipment —457Net cash (used in) provided by investing activities (237)391Cash flows from financing activities: Net cash provided by financing activities ——Effect of changes in foreign exchange rates on cash and cash equivalents 5(3)Net change in cash and cash equivalents 3,836(4,365)Cash and cash equivalents, beginning of period 5,3365,289Cash and cash equivalents, end of period$ 9,172 $ 924 MIND TECHNOLOGY, INC. Reconciliation of Net Income (Loss) and Net Cash Used in Operating Activities to EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA from Continuing Operations (in thousands) (unaudited)For the Three Months Ended April 30,2025 2024Reconciliation of Net income (loss) to EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA(in thousands)Net income (loss)$ (970) $ 954Depreciation and amortization 225267Provision for income taxes 294245EBITDA (1) (451)1,466Stock-based compensation 27248Adjusted EBITDA (1)$ (179) $ 1,514Reconciliation of Net Cash Provided by (Used in) Operating Activities to EBITDA Net cash provided by (used in) operating activities$ 4,068 $ (4,753)Stock-based compensation (272)(48)Provision for inventory obsolescence (15)(23)Changes in accounts receivable (current and long-term) (3,985)2,847Taxes paid, net of refunds 80430Gross profit from sale of other equipment —457Changes in inventory (282)2,812Changes in accounts payable, accrued expenses and other current liabilities and deferred revenue (143)(157)Changes in prepaid expenses and other current and long-term assets 92(100)Other 61EBITDA (1)$ (451) $ 1,4661. EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA are non-GAAP financial measures. EBITDA is defined as net income before (a) interest income and interest expense, (b) provision for (or benefit from) income taxes and (c) depreciation and amortization. Adjusted EBITDA excludes non-cash foreign exchange gains and losses, stock-based compensation, impairment of intangible assets and other non-cash tax related items. We consider EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA to be important indicators for the performance of our business, but not measures of performance or liquidity calculated in accordance with GAAP. We have included these non-GAAP financial measures because management utilizes this information for assessing our performance and liquidity, and as indicators of our ability to make capital expenditures, service debt and finance working capital requirements and we believe that EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA are measurements that are commonly used by analysts and some investors in evaluating the performance and liquidity of companies such as us. In particular, we believe that it is useful to our analysts and investors to understand this relationship because it excludes transactions not related to our core cash operating activities. We believe that excluding these transactions allows investors to meaningfully trend and analyze the performance of our core cash operations. EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA are not measures of financial performance or liquidity under GAAP and should not be considered in isolation or as alternatives to cash flow from operating activities or as alternatives to net income as indicators of operating performance or any other measures of performance derived in accordance with GAAP. In evaluating our performance as measured by EBITDA, management recognizes and considers the limitations of this measurement. EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA do not reflect our obligations for the payment of income taxes, interest expense or other obligations such as capital expenditures. Accordingly, EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA are only two of the measurements that management utilizes. Other companies in our industry may calculate EBITDA or Adjusted EBITDA differently than we do and EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA may not be comparable with similarly titled measures reported by other companies. Contacts: Rob Capps, President & CEOMIND Technology, Inc.281-353-4475 Ken Dennard / Zach VaughanDennard Lascar Investor Relations713-529-6600MIND@ View original content: SOURCE MIND Technology, Inc.