
Should older drivers be forced to retest if young drivers face tougher rules? Join The Independent Debate
Debate is growing over age-based driving regulations in the UK.
Calls for tougher restrictions on young drivers – such as banning them from carrying peer passengers aim to reduce accidents among the most at-risk group.
Campaigners argue that measures like Graduated Driver Licensing could save lives by reducing distractions and encouraging safer driving habits.
But if young drivers are subject to stricter rules, should older drivers be, too?
The Older Drivers Forum, which works with police forces across the UK, has previously urged older motorists to review their skills and any medical issues.
Some have suggested mandatory retesting after a certain age to ensure continued competence, while others argue that driving ability –not age – should determine fitness to drive.
Critics also worry that age-based restrictions could unfairly target older drivers who rely on their cars for independence, especially in areas with limited public transport.
Now we want your opinion: Should the UK tighten driving rules for both young and older drivers to improve road safety, or would this be unfairly discriminatory? Are there better and fairer ways to keep our roads safe?

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Calls for tougher restrictions on young drivers – such as banning them from carrying peer passengers – have sparked debate among Independent readers. This week, campaigners argued that measures like Graduated Driver Licensing could save lives by reducing distractions and encouraging safer driving habits among the most at-risk age group. In light of this, we asked whether you supported more age-focused restrictions or if broader changes should be made to improve road safety. Many readers backed calls for mandatory retesting and regular training to ensure all drivers meet required standards. Others supported routine eyesight tests every few years to prevent unfit drivers from staying on the roads. Some rejected a focus on older drivers and instead suggested raising the minimum driving age to 20 to curb reckless behaviour. Others proposed reaction time tests as a fairer way to assess all motorists. 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In 42 years of riding and driving, I have had only one accident (not my fault) and no points on my licence. Hairyferrit Raise the driving age I'm not in favour of a retest for older people. What I would like to see is the age for eligibility to drive rising to 20 years of age, by which time most youngsters will have more common sense and less of a 'boy racer' attitude. All this 'picking' on older drivers is a disgrace and mostly unwarranted, in my opinion. Drivers of any age should be honest and take the responsible decision to stop driving if they have a condition that merits it. All these people who are so keen to get the older drivers removed from the roads need to remember that they will reach that stage in life quicker than they think. Will they then still advocate for such measures as they're suggesting now? Max Reaction time tests We all think we are the best driver and have no faults. I would hate to have a full retest, but having proper eye tests is sensible, and perhaps a reaction time test would sort out the incompetent or slow-thinking drivers. If an older driver commits an offence, like due care and attention, this should be explored more, as should tailgating and undertaking for anyone. Hoodies or any type of restrictive face coverings should not be worn in a vehicle; they do restrict peripheral vision. Martyn Refresher training like Japan In Japan, drivers have to attend refresher training every five years. We should do something similar for all drivers, regardless of their age. Johnniewon The future of self-driving cars Hopefully, this will all soon be moot. Many drivers on the road are poor, distracted, even dangerous from either overconfidence or excessive timidity. The technology for self-driving cars to get these drivers off the roads will be mature enough soon, likely within a five-to-ten-year timescale. Then everyone can be in a better place. Currymonster Inadequate eyesight checks My father-in-law was 90 a few years ago and was asked to take some sort of retest. A guy phoned him up and asked him if he could read a number plate outside. He replied that he could and was given a clean bill of health. This was despite being almost blind in one eye and having to have injections in the other for degeneration. He was never a great driver anyway. Seventy-odd years behind the wheel does not always make you proficient and sensible. Likewise, young people do not always drive like maniacs. There should be mandatory, rigorous eyesight testing every 10 or 20 years, possibly more frequently at ages where we know it deteriorates quickly. I don't think that's unfair or ageist. diafol Modern cars compensate for bad driving In a modern car, you're more likely to brake in time or survive the crash. Use that to break even with the lower driving skills of an ageing population. And the young have had enough of living like an old woman in the lockdown. If everything was made super safe by not really being able to do anything in the real world, would it even be safe? Can you promise that society and the economy won't just fall apart in a mad way? TheRedSquirrel The conversation isn't over. To join in, all you need to do is register your details, then you can take part in the discussion. You can also sign up by clicking 'log in' on the top right-hand corner of the screen.