
‘White Lotus' villain Jon Gries likens Greg to Robert Durst and the Tinder Swindler
As the season has unfolded, Greg (played by Jon Gries) has emerged as an antagonist, particularly after Belinda dove into the investigation surrounding Tanya's death and learned that Greg, who now goes by Gary, evaded questioning by authorities.
On a show famous for reinventing itself, the same has been asked of the actor, who says that playing the ever-shifting character has been a welcome challenge and, like 'White Lotus' itself, full of twists.
'In the beginning, I totally played him for a guy who was, you know, on his last legs,' Gries said in a recent interview with CNN, referencing Greg's very apparent ill health in the first season of 'White Lotus,' which premiered to rave reviews in summer 2021. He added: 'When you play a character, you want to find his empathetic side, and you want to understand where they came from, and what got them to where they are.'
But when he was contacted by creator Mike White about appearing in Season 2, Gries realized he would have to adjust his framing of Greg, despite having previously imagined a 'comprehensive history' for him on his own.
'(White) said, 'I'm writing it right now, and I'm writing you, and I just need to know here and now: If you're in, I'll continue writing. If not, I'll stop,'' Gries recalled.
Of course, he said yes to coming back to the series, which eventually required him to live in Italy for a few months for filming.
During production, White revealed to Gries that Greg is 'very sinister.' That became rather irrefutable by the season's climax, which saw Tanya's demise orchestrated by her now-husband.
Come Season 3, Gries had to rewrite Greg's backstory again, this time drawing from some unlikely sources for inspiration, like HBO docuseries 'The Jinx,' about late convicted killer Robert Durst, and the case involving the man who came to be known as the Tinder Swindler.
Gries said he was struck by Durst's 'kind of seemingly even keel personality,' which served as a model for where Greg was headed, someone 'who doesn't really show a great deal of emotion, doesn't seem to get too angry, just gets a little bit irritated and is dangerous.'
'There's a bridled rage underneath. And those kind of people I find – at least with respect to Gary, Greg, Gary – fascinating,' he said.
And yet, while searching for an empathetic way back to portraying his character, Gries kept wondering if there was anything still redeeming about Greg.
An important 'wake up moment' came during a decisive conversation he had with White just before filming in Thailand, in which the show's creator said of Greg, in no uncertain terms: 'He's a psychopath.'
'And that was it. It was like, 'back to the drawing board.' And it really did help me,' Gries said.
The penultimate episode of the series will air on Sunday, an evening that thanks to 'Lotus' and other shows has again become a night of appointment viewing amid a general move away from binge watching. Gries said he appreciates the shift.
'We're a society that in a weird way doesn't understand the beauty of waiting. The beauty of the space between the notes,' he shared. 'If I binged ('White Lotus') I'd feel like I just ate too many chocolates. It just wouldn't be the same. You need to process this.'
'The White Lotus' airs Sundays at 9 p.m. EDT on HBO, with the episode available to stream on Max. HBO and Max, like CNN, are owned by the same parent company, Warner Bros. Discovery.

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