Pacers Andrew Nembhard, Myles Turner struggling against Knicks' lineup change
NEW YORK — Andrew Nembhard was asked how the Eastern Conference Finals have changed for him personally since the Knicks switched their lineups and rotations in Game 3 to go bigger in the starting five and deeper into the bench than they've done in these playoffs and most of this season.
'I'm just gonna keep that to myself,' Nembhard said.
It's more than understandable that he'd rather not discuss it because the changing of the matchups has clearly made his life significantly more difficult. In Games 1 and 2 in the series, Nembhard scored a combined 27 points (13.5 per game) on 11 of 18 shooting (61.1%) including 4 of 5 from 3-point range. In the last three games he has just 18 points total (6.0 per game) on 5 of 26 shooting (19.2%) including 1 of 6 from 3.
The Knicks made changes to improve defensively. Though the Pacers scored a playoff-high 130 points in Game 4, they scored just 100 in Game 3 and 94 in Game 5, their two lowest figures in these playoffs.
The big change was to put center Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup and move wing Josh Hart to the bench. Though Hart is one of the Knicks' three top wing defenders along with Mikal Bridges and O.G. Anunoby, they needed better rim protection to take away some of the Pacers' paint scoring opportunities and also a center more suited to switch on to ball-handlers on the pick and roll. Karl-Anthony Towns is one of the league's top scoring and rebounding centers but defense is not his strongest suit. He scores too much to move to the bench, but Robinson's presence covers more bases.
That move led to shifts in other matchups. Anunoby, one of the most versatile defenders in the NBA, was primarily taking on Pacers All-Star power forward Pascal Siakam to start the series . The Knicks have instead used Robinson and Towns to guard him, trying to combat his skill and elusiveness with size. They could have used Jalen Brunson on Nembhard, but instead, they've put Brunson on Aaron Nesmith and Nembhard has been dealing with the 6-7 Anunoby at the start of games and often times the 6-4 Hart later. It puts Nesmith in a bit more advantageous matchup, but he's been battling through a sprained ankle and hasn't been as explosive. Meanwhile having Anunoby on Nembhard and Bridges on Tyrese Haliburton means the Knicks have ace defenders on the two players who most frequently initiate offense and that's made it difficult to get anything started.
Nembhard has also seen his life get more difficult because the Knicks have been more willing to dig into their bench. Guards Landry Shamet and Delon Wright barely played in the playoffs before Game 3 of this series. Wright had just four minutes in the entire playoffs before that point. However, coach Tom Thibodeau has called on them to play double-figure minutes in each of the last three games. Nembhard has had to deal with both players as defenders which has meant guards with fresh legs when Anunoby has been off the floor.
The defensive shift has been tough on Nembhard and it's been tough on Myles Turner as well as Turner has frequently had to deal with Mitchell Robinson directly. Turner only took three shots in Game 5. Two of them came when Robinson was off the floor and he was being defended by Towns. The first, an early 3-pointer, came when Robinson dipped deep down toward the paint to try to cut off a drive by Haliburton and Turner stayed back at the 3-point line and hit from 3. He finished 2 of 3 from the field for five points.
Turner's shooting numbers weren't as dramatically different in Games 3 and 4 as compared to Games 1 and 2. He averaged 15.5 points per game in the first four games. He did struggle from the 3-point arc, however, he's now 5 of 19 from beyond the arc for the series and he's struggled on the glass, averaging just 3.4 rebounds per game and not grabbing more than five in any of the games.
Nembhard and Turner are both critical to Haliburton's success as Nembhard is the secondary ball-handler who allows Haliburton to run around without the ball and Turner is his best ball screen partner. As the Pacers try to adjust and get past the Knicks into their first Finals since 2000 and the second in history, they'll be looking to get both more involved.

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One more moment that didn't make the final piece but was a fun story for my kids – CNBC Sport producer Jess Golden and I wound up as audience members in a Mr. Beast video. You can see us for a couple of seconds dopily trying to take a picture for our children at the 4:50 mark of this video , before the producers forced everyone to put away their phones. By the way, the notion of parents impressing their kids by hanging out with Mr. Beast doesn't just apply to us – Curry, himself, immediately called his own kids to show off he was standing next to him. Best NBA shooters of all time: they're just like us! Curry participated in the Mr. Beast stunt at a local Oakland high school, where he tried to make more three-pointers in 30 seconds than a student could in 60 seconds. Fun fact No. 3: **Spoiler alert**... In the video, just before you see us, the high schooler says he's more of a LeBron James fan than a Curry guy. I can confirm that Curry debated going easy on him until he heard that – "and then the drive kicked in," just as it did during his four Finals clashes with James. Curry won three of those. Refusing to let a local kid win $100,000 in front of his classmates – does that count as a dark side? That's as much as I've got. On the record With Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr ... We at CNBC Sport wanted to give you the full interviews from both Kerr and Curry, because there's a lot that didn't make the special. As it turns out, for legal reasons, we can't include any audio that actually aired in the CNBC piece. So, we're giving you the full interviews minus anything that made our production. I asked Curry if he thinks he's ruined NBA gameplay by shooting so many three-pointers so accurately. He has shot more than nine threes per game for his career, more than any player in league history, and has hit a remarkable 42% of those shots. From 1979 to 2009, the year Curry joined the NBA, teams averaged 10.7 three-pointers per game, according to data from research firm SportRadar. From 2009 to the present, NBA teams have shot 27.6 threes a game. While the league's focus on analytics that emphasize the value of three-point shots has helped to fuel that shift, Curry's success has undoubtedly played a massive role. (Another illustration of how the game has changed: Curry's coach Kerr, who is the NBA's all-time three-point percentage leader at 45%, shot about two three-pointers per game for his career from 1988 to 2003). Curry said the problem is nuanced. It's not that teams are shooting too many threes – it's that guys who shouldn't be shooting them are doing it. "Should everybody shoot it? No, because not everybody works at it the way they should. Not everybody is as skilled at it as they should be," Curry said. "That doesn't mean that it's ruining the game. Everything evolves. That's the nature of life. That's the nature of sports. Everything evolves. Every sport – every sport is played differently than it was 10, 20 years ago. So, the question, I guess the fear, is like, where does it go from here? Like, are you gonna see teams shooting 60, 70 threes a game? I don't think so." The overabundance of threes creates a stylistic problem for the NBA, said Curry. Too many game plans revolve around jacking up threes when some teams don't have the proper players to execute the strategy, he said. "The bigger problem is that there is this idea that every team plays a similar style versus maybe 10 years ago where you see the run-and- gun Warriors, and then you see the slow-it-down-and-grind-you Memphis Grizzlies, and the kind of ball movement – the beautiful game – San Antonio Spurs," said Curry. "Everybody played a little bit different. Now, there's kind of a more similar style." Curry also told me the three-point line should "potentially" be moved back to force teams to change strategies if they don't have players who can knock down longer threes with consistency. "It would favor me, so maybe," Curry noted. Watch more of my interview with Curry here . Listen to both extended cut interviews here and make sure to follow the CNBC Sport podcast. This week's audio-only version includes an introduction where my colleague Jess Golden and I talk about our impressions of Curry and putting the production together over the past few months. CNBC Sport highlight reel We put together a few different stories about Curry from all of our interviews: Thirty Ink's financials are impressive – $174 million in revenue and an astounding $144 million in EBITDA for 2024, due to an unusual agreement with Under Armour's Curry Brand. Curry told me he's open to pursuing a broadcasting career when he retires, but he's also thinking about team ownership and even playing on the PGA Tour Champions when he turns 50. One of the more interesting anecdotes from the piece is Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank 's story about using former Golden State Warriors teammate Kent Bazemore to convince Curry to leave Nike and come to UA. We highlighted that tale here. The thing Curry told me that most shocked me? That he still suffers from imposter syndrome at times. The big numbers: Keeping the focus on Curry this week, I've got three Big Numbers for you – all thanks to SportRadar, which collected the data. 4,058 That's how many three pointers Curry has made in his career, by far the most in league history. He's nearly 900 ahead of the next guy – Los Angeles Clippers guard James Harden , who has made 3,175. 19.6 feet That's the average shot distance for a Curry jumper since 2020-21 – nearly two feet further than any other player that has averaged 20 or more points in a season in the last five years. An NBA three pointer is 23 feet, 9 inches from top of the key, and 22 feet from the basket at the corners of the floor. .711 That's the Golden State Warriors' win percentage since 2015 with Curry in the lineup. That means the Warriors have won more than 70% of the time when Curry plays in that stretch. Needless to say, no team in the NBA has won more frequently in the last ten years. Quote of the week "It's a deep question, because you think about it all the time. I know I've been blessed with a God-given ability when I stepped foot on the floor when I was five years old. Figuring out a way to put the ball in a basket kind of came naturally. You add that with a work ethic that I know I've…I've poured my heart and soul into perfecting this craft and stretching my imagination on what I could actually do on a basketball court with the skill set of shooting. And even at 36 [now 37] and 16 years in the league, I still get lost in that pursuit of perfection. It's my happy place when I'm out there on the court. I truly enjoy it and have fun every time I'm out there. The job of the NBA and all that hasn't really threatened that at all. So, matching the God-given abilities and the work ethic and just being able to lose myself in the game, I think is a good formula." — Curry, answering my question of why, of every basketball player to ever step on a court, he's the best shooter of them all. Around the league A CNBC Sport exclusive - Sotheby's is auctioning off the jersey Curry wore when he made his first three-pointer in his first NBA season (2009-10). Curry made the shot in his second-ever NBA game. He went on to wear the jersey in 24 more games. To Sotheby's knowledge, the jersey "represents not only the first Stephen Curry rookie jersey ever offered at public auction, but also the most heavily worn Curry jersey—from any point in his career—known to have surfaced." The auction house estimates the jersey will sell for more than $1 million. The item will be offered as part of Sotheby's "Summer Sports Classics" auction, which begins later this month. Curry will once again participate in this summer's American Century Championship celebrity golf tournament, which he won in 2023, in South Lake Tahoe at the Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course. He didn't play last year because he was in Paris winning a gold medal for the U.S. Olympic basketball team. The tournament will air on NBC Sports, Golf Channel and Peacock over the course of three days. He'll compete against other athletes and celebrities including his dad Dell and brother Seth, Tony Romo , Steve Young , Jerry Rice , Aaron Rodgers, Colin Jost and Charles Barkley , though it's debatable if you can say Barkley really competes (he finished in 81st the year Curry won but did improve to a respectable 58th last year). The tournament runs from July 11 to July 13.