‘Get rid of it!': Rule gripes, ump ‘stinkers' revealed in coaches round table
The now-former chief executive of the Brisbane Lions has publicly stated that he has '43 pages of stuff' that people across the league want him to fix, as the 2025 home-and-away season edges closer to the finish line.
FOX FOOTY, available on Kayo Sports, is the only place to watch every match of every round in the 2025 Toyota AFL Premiership Season LIVE in 4K, with no ad-breaks during play. New to Kayo? Get your first month for just $1. Limited-time offer.
Joining AFL 360 at the conclusion of Round 19 on 'Coaches Night', two of the competition's mastermind coaches in Chris Scott and Sam Mitchell were quizzed on numerous topics that could be on Swann's agenda in the coming months.
From the contentious sub rule, to the upcoming Tribunal hearing of Steven May, to the length of quarters — among several other things — the two-time Geelong premiership coach and Hawthorn great provided their two cents on a range of issues.
Read the full transcript of their discussion below:
SUB RULE
Sam Mitchell: 'No, get rid of it. It's horrible.'
Chris Scott: 'Same.'
Asked by Whateley if he believes it would be an 18-0 majority of coaches in favour of removing the sub rule, Mitchell replied with a resounding 'yes'.
Scott: 'It was brought up (recently), and there were no dissenters. I'm pretty sure most of the coaches were there last time we were together.'
LENGTH OF GAMES
Scott: '(It can be tidied up) easily. I think the game's too long, full stop. I think they should shorten the actual quarter length. But the score reviews ... the umpires waiting for the ruckmen to get to a stoppage is a complete nonsense. Sometimes, we've had players come from the interchange bench and get to the stoppage, because the umpires are waiting for the ruckmen. If a player's there, throw it up. If there are no players there, there it up.'
Mitchell: 'I'm 120 (minutes total in a game). I like the game, I want more of the game — but less of the stuff in between. I like 120, I'd love a 30-minute quarter and when it gets to 29 minutes, you're waiting for the siren. At the moment, we send a message out to our players sometimes going: 'This is going to be a 34-minute quarter'. That's too long.'
Scott: 'I think I'd probably come a little bit more towards you if the playing time was the same, but the wasted time was removed.'
BOUNCING THE BALL — STAY OR GO?
Mitchell: 'I'm a bounce guy. I like the bounce, but no recalls. I think variability is one of the great parts of our game ... the best umpires bounce it well.'
Scott: 'No bounce.'
DRAFTING FATHER-SON PLAYERS AND ACADEMIES
Scott: 'And no father-son while we're at it!' Scott continued tongue-in-cheek.
'I sort of am (serious though). I think all these things are romantic ideas. When you get to a really equalised competition where every little bit matters, the idea that you have these hug outliers ... I get it controversial, I get it would be pushed back on by the romantics.'
'The Academies serve a purpose, you've just got to pay the right price for the player. And I think if it's really important to develop the game in New South Wales and Queensland, Geelong and Hawthorn (for example) can help with that as well. Let's get up there and really grow the game.'
SIMPLIFYING THE GAME FOR UMPIRES
Mitchell: 'That's beyond (my scope). The thing I would like, as far as the safety element, I think it should be more incumbent on the player who's 'trying to get hurt' that he is disincentivised to do that. That is something I would lean towards.'
STEVEN MAY'S UPCOMING TRIBUNAL
Scott: 'If I were the MRO, I wouldn't have put it up.'
When asked by Garry Lyon whether the collision was a 'football accident', Scott agreed.
Scott: 'The way I think about these things, and the way we coach our players is, you have to be committed to the ball. But in a split-second moment you're second to the ball, you have a very high duty of care to your opponent. I thought he delivered on his duty of care. It would've been very easy for him to turn his body to protect himself. He's going for the bouncing ball, bit of a bad bounce (and) sits up a little bit. His arms are by his side; I thought he did everything he could to mitigate contact, and it was an accident.'
Mitchell: 'Well we've got them (Melbourne) in a couple weeks, so I'll be a little bit biased,' he joked.
'I don't think he was trying to hurt him, so I think intent should be taken into account with the MRO more than outcome.'
IS DISSENT BACK IN OUR GAME?
Scott: 'Well it's, not is it? Has that been explained to you (Mitchell) that if you point to the scoreboard, it's a free?'
Mitchell: 'A couple of years ago I feel like it was explained, and it hasn't been one since.'
Scott: 'He's (Worner) not even engaging with the umpire here!'
Mitchell: 'I have a vague memory, that when the dissent (rule) first came in, that if you point to the scoreboard, that'll be 50 (metres). But that's happened a lot of times since then, and it hasn't been paid ... let's see if it happens again this week.'
Scott: 'For me, it's a bit like the protected area (rule). You see a 50-metre penalty paid, and you go: 'Yeah, that is a 50 — the problem is, you missed the 50 before that'. If you're going to pluck that out and say: 'No, that's right' — alright, communicate it to us and players won't (do it).
'My point is, if he's talking to the umpire saying: 'LOOK AT THE SCOREBOARD'... he didn't do that! He was looking at it for his own curiosity (and saying): 'Oh yeah, that was a bad free kick'. And it was! Two stinkers.'

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles


Perth Now
31 minutes ago
- Perth Now
Finals beckon, but Suns keep their Witts about them
Jarrod Witts' rucking wares are being heralded as All-Australian worthy, while Gold Coast, in reach of a top-four finish, keep their feet in new AFL territory. The Suns' historic 66-point QClash victory on Saturday gave them, with five regular-season games to play, a club-best 12th win this season. Four of those games come against teams not in finals contention, leaving the Suns in the hunt for a top-four finish in what would be their maiden post-season foray. Witts, two games shy of his 200th AFL game, has been critical in that run. The 32-year-old helped turn the screws against the Brisbane Lions on Saturday as the Suns' midfield upstaged the Lions' for their biggest QClash win. Unprompted, Hardwick launched a campaign for the ruckman post-game. "Can I make a statement about Jarrod Witts? Can we start having a conversation?" he posed when asked about the performance of Witts' star on-ballers Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson. "I watched TV the other day, they had a list of ruckmen that are in the mix. Go and have a look at what our guy's done to all those guys." Before Saturday, Witts had collected the seventh-most coaches' votes of all ruckmen, his 26 dwarfed by leaders Brodie Grundy (65) and Max Gawn (59). "Have the conversation about how good this guy's become,": Hardwick said. "These guys (Suns midfielders) should be buying him coffee every day. Unbelievable. "I'd love to have him as All-Australian … I wouldn't pick another one." The Suns play Richmond, Carlton, GWS, Essendon and Port Adelaide in the run to a potential first finals campaign. Only the Giants are a shot of joining them, although emotion will be high when the Power play their final game under long-time mentor Ken Hinkley. "It is every side's challenge, isn't it," Hardwick said. "The sides we are talking about, they are going to have their moments and they are going to play well. "At various stages we haven't beaten those sides we should have beaten and that is going to be our next challenge. "If we concentrate firmly on the next shift, where our feet are right now, we are going to be OK."


ABC News
2 hours ago
- ABC News
Finau Shed the Weight to Lift Her Family's Future
This Week on Radio Australia: On Nesia Daily, ABC's Fiji correspondent Lice Movono reflects on the incredible legacy of music legend George "Fiji" Veikoso. On Pacific Pulse, host Melissa Maykin welcomes a dietician who shares her personal journey of breaking the cycle of poor health in her family. And on Nesian Footy, hosts Sam Wykes and Will Hopoate catch up with the CEO of Pacific Rugby Players, diving into the latest developments in the sport. Relax into your Sunday morning with two hours of the best stories from across the Pacific. Host, Kuntamari Crofts will take you on a Pacific Sundays journey, bringing you stories that will inspire, entertain and inform you.


The Advertiser
3 hours ago
- The Advertiser
It's Young talent time as wayward Dockers crush Eagles
Fremantle midfielder Hayden Young has showcased what a weapon he will be in the club's AFL premiership push as the Dockers brushed aside West Coast by 49 points in a fiery western derby clash. Young tallied 23 disposals, seven clearances, three goals and 555m gained to win the Glendinning-Allan Medal in the 18.18 (126) to 12.5 (77) triumph in front of 54,384 fans at Optus Stadium on Saturday. The 24-year-old came on as the sub in his first game back from hamstring surgery in last week's one-point win over Collingwood, but he was unleashed from the very start of Saturday's game before being subbed out early in the last. Young was the dominant figure of the opening term, and his ruthlessness in front of goal when his teammates continually missed was another sign of just how important he is to the club's flag push. "It's handy, and we've missed his ball use at times this year," Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir said of Young's accuracy. "I thought he was clean, I thought he found space, I thought he finished well. He was sharp. "He gives another big body around there as well, which helps Andy (Brayshaw) and Caleb (Serong) and the other mids." Michael Frederick kicked a career-high four goals, Andrew Brayshaw racked up 32 disposals and eight clearances, while rising star Murphy Reid (23 disposals, one goal) tallied a whopping 15 score involvements. Four-time Glendinning-Allan Medallist Serong had to work hard for his 20 disposals and eight clearances under a tight tag from Brady Hough. For West Coast, defender Reuben Ginbey kept Josh Treacy goalless from nine disposals, Tim Kelly found form with 26 disposals, eight clearances and two goals, and Harley Reid (15 disposals, three clearances, two goals) battled hard amidst the boos. Reid limped off in the dying minutes with an ankle injury after being crunched in a tackle by Karl Worner. The win keeps Fremantle (13-6) within percentage of the top four, while West Coast (1-18) have lost nine on the trot and are headed for their second wooden spoon in three seasons. West Coast were forced into a late change when defender Harry Edwards injured his hamstring in the warm-up, Harley Reid was target No.1 in the opening quarter. First, he was involved in a wrestle with Fremantle veteran Jaeger O'Meara. Later in the term, he was caught unaware when he was flattened in an off-the-ball bump from Patrick Voss (three goals). West Coast kept pace with Fremantle early, but two goals in a minute to Frederick, followed by two goals in a minute to Young, blew the scoreboard out to 40-12 by quarter-time. Fremantle's 14-7 clearance count in the opening quarter was ominous, with Young tallying 10 disposals, five clearances and two goals in a brilliant individual display. Frederick's third goal stretched the margin to 35 points early in the third quarter, but a magical running goal by Harley Reid helped keep West Coast in the contest. Fremantle dominated the rest of the quarter, but their wasteful return of 1.6 meant the half-time margin was only 22 points. The Dockers' wobbles continued early in the third quarter as West Coast cut the margin to 18 points, before Fremantle finally found their range to blow the margin wide open. "I think the scoreboard flattered us probably for a fair chunk of that game," West Coast coach Andrew McQualter said. "I think you saw a Fremantle team hungry, in a position where they're going to be fighting for finals, and their class probably just overwhelmed us." Fremantle midfielder Hayden Young has showcased what a weapon he will be in the club's AFL premiership push as the Dockers brushed aside West Coast by 49 points in a fiery western derby clash. Young tallied 23 disposals, seven clearances, three goals and 555m gained to win the Glendinning-Allan Medal in the 18.18 (126) to 12.5 (77) triumph in front of 54,384 fans at Optus Stadium on Saturday. The 24-year-old came on as the sub in his first game back from hamstring surgery in last week's one-point win over Collingwood, but he was unleashed from the very start of Saturday's game before being subbed out early in the last. Young was the dominant figure of the opening term, and his ruthlessness in front of goal when his teammates continually missed was another sign of just how important he is to the club's flag push. "It's handy, and we've missed his ball use at times this year," Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir said of Young's accuracy. "I thought he was clean, I thought he found space, I thought he finished well. He was sharp. "He gives another big body around there as well, which helps Andy (Brayshaw) and Caleb (Serong) and the other mids." Michael Frederick kicked a career-high four goals, Andrew Brayshaw racked up 32 disposals and eight clearances, while rising star Murphy Reid (23 disposals, one goal) tallied a whopping 15 score involvements. Four-time Glendinning-Allan Medallist Serong had to work hard for his 20 disposals and eight clearances under a tight tag from Brady Hough. For West Coast, defender Reuben Ginbey kept Josh Treacy goalless from nine disposals, Tim Kelly found form with 26 disposals, eight clearances and two goals, and Harley Reid (15 disposals, three clearances, two goals) battled hard amidst the boos. Reid limped off in the dying minutes with an ankle injury after being crunched in a tackle by Karl Worner. The win keeps Fremantle (13-6) within percentage of the top four, while West Coast (1-18) have lost nine on the trot and are headed for their second wooden spoon in three seasons. West Coast were forced into a late change when defender Harry Edwards injured his hamstring in the warm-up, Harley Reid was target No.1 in the opening quarter. First, he was involved in a wrestle with Fremantle veteran Jaeger O'Meara. Later in the term, he was caught unaware when he was flattened in an off-the-ball bump from Patrick Voss (three goals). West Coast kept pace with Fremantle early, but two goals in a minute to Frederick, followed by two goals in a minute to Young, blew the scoreboard out to 40-12 by quarter-time. Fremantle's 14-7 clearance count in the opening quarter was ominous, with Young tallying 10 disposals, five clearances and two goals in a brilliant individual display. Frederick's third goal stretched the margin to 35 points early in the third quarter, but a magical running goal by Harley Reid helped keep West Coast in the contest. Fremantle dominated the rest of the quarter, but their wasteful return of 1.6 meant the half-time margin was only 22 points. The Dockers' wobbles continued early in the third quarter as West Coast cut the margin to 18 points, before Fremantle finally found their range to blow the margin wide open. "I think the scoreboard flattered us probably for a fair chunk of that game," West Coast coach Andrew McQualter said. "I think you saw a Fremantle team hungry, in a position where they're going to be fighting for finals, and their class probably just overwhelmed us." Fremantle midfielder Hayden Young has showcased what a weapon he will be in the club's AFL premiership push as the Dockers brushed aside West Coast by 49 points in a fiery western derby clash. Young tallied 23 disposals, seven clearances, three goals and 555m gained to win the Glendinning-Allan Medal in the 18.18 (126) to 12.5 (77) triumph in front of 54,384 fans at Optus Stadium on Saturday. The 24-year-old came on as the sub in his first game back from hamstring surgery in last week's one-point win over Collingwood, but he was unleashed from the very start of Saturday's game before being subbed out early in the last. Young was the dominant figure of the opening term, and his ruthlessness in front of goal when his teammates continually missed was another sign of just how important he is to the club's flag push. "It's handy, and we've missed his ball use at times this year," Fremantle coach Justin Longmuir said of Young's accuracy. "I thought he was clean, I thought he found space, I thought he finished well. He was sharp. "He gives another big body around there as well, which helps Andy (Brayshaw) and Caleb (Serong) and the other mids." Michael Frederick kicked a career-high four goals, Andrew Brayshaw racked up 32 disposals and eight clearances, while rising star Murphy Reid (23 disposals, one goal) tallied a whopping 15 score involvements. Four-time Glendinning-Allan Medallist Serong had to work hard for his 20 disposals and eight clearances under a tight tag from Brady Hough. For West Coast, defender Reuben Ginbey kept Josh Treacy goalless from nine disposals, Tim Kelly found form with 26 disposals, eight clearances and two goals, and Harley Reid (15 disposals, three clearances, two goals) battled hard amidst the boos. Reid limped off in the dying minutes with an ankle injury after being crunched in a tackle by Karl Worner. The win keeps Fremantle (13-6) within percentage of the top four, while West Coast (1-18) have lost nine on the trot and are headed for their second wooden spoon in three seasons. West Coast were forced into a late change when defender Harry Edwards injured his hamstring in the warm-up, Harley Reid was target No.1 in the opening quarter. First, he was involved in a wrestle with Fremantle veteran Jaeger O'Meara. Later in the term, he was caught unaware when he was flattened in an off-the-ball bump from Patrick Voss (three goals). West Coast kept pace with Fremantle early, but two goals in a minute to Frederick, followed by two goals in a minute to Young, blew the scoreboard out to 40-12 by quarter-time. Fremantle's 14-7 clearance count in the opening quarter was ominous, with Young tallying 10 disposals, five clearances and two goals in a brilliant individual display. Frederick's third goal stretched the margin to 35 points early in the third quarter, but a magical running goal by Harley Reid helped keep West Coast in the contest. Fremantle dominated the rest of the quarter, but their wasteful return of 1.6 meant the half-time margin was only 22 points. The Dockers' wobbles continued early in the third quarter as West Coast cut the margin to 18 points, before Fremantle finally found their range to blow the margin wide open. "I think the scoreboard flattered us probably for a fair chunk of that game," West Coast coach Andrew McQualter said. "I think you saw a Fremantle team hungry, in a position where they're going to be fighting for finals, and their class probably just overwhelmed us."