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Q1 2025 Innovate Corp Earnings Call

Q1 2025 Innovate Corp Earnings Call

Yahoo07-05-2025

Participants
Anthony Rozmus; Investor Relations; Innovate Corp
Paul Voigt; Interim Chief Executive Officer; Innovate Corp
Michael Sena; Chief Financial Officer; Innovate Corp
Presentation
Operator
Good afternoon, and welcome to Innovate's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Anthony Rozmus with Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Anthony Rozmus
Good afternoon. Thank you for being with us to review Innovate's first quarter 2025 earnings results. We are joined today by Paul Voigt, Innovate's Interim CEO; and Mike Sena, Innovate's CFO. We have posted our earnings release and our slide presentation on our website at innovatecorp.com. We will begin our call with prepared remarks to be followed by a Q&A session.
This call is also being simulcast and will be archived on our website. During this call, management may make certain statements and assumptions, which are not historical facts, will be forward-looking and are being made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions and Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any such forward-looking statements involve risks, assumptions and uncertainties and are subject to certain assumptions and risk factors that could cause Innovate's actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.
The Risk factors that could cause these differences are more fully discussed in the cautionary statement that is included in our earnings release and the slide presentation and further detailed in our 10-K and other filings with the SEC. In addition, the forward-looking statements included in this conference call are only made as of this -- the date of this call and as stated in our SEC reports.
Innovate disclaims any intent or obligation to update or revise these forward-looking statements, except as expressly required by law. Management may also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA. We believe these measures provide useful supplemental data that, while not a substitute for GAAP measures, allow for greater transparency in the review of our financial and operational performance. At this point, it is my pleasure to turn things over to Paul Voigt.
Paul Voigt
Good afternoon. We are pleased to report our first quarter 2025 financial results, and we'll provide you an update on our three operating segments. Innovate delivered consolidated revenues of $274.2 million and adjusted EBITDA of $7.2 million in the first quarter of 2025. As we have discussed, we are actively working to address our capital structure and our near-term maturities of our debt obligations. We continue to make progress on our strategic objectives, and our businesses continue to execute and drive very good results.
We continue to believe that we have very valuable assets that appreciate in value each day. As a reminder, we are working to leverage one or more of these assets prior to reaching the debt maturities in order to achieve sustainable capital structure that allows us to realize the full value of the remaining businesses. We are keenly aware of the time line in front of us, and we are working diligently for a solution.
As we turn our attention to our operating segments, starting with the Infrastructure, DBM Global achieved revenues of $264.9 million and adjusted EBITDA of $16.7 million. During the quarter, DBM has seen gross margin improvement year-over-year of approximately 110 basis points to 15.6% and adjusted EBITDA margin improvement of approximately 40 basis points to 6.3% year-over-year.
As expected, our results for DBM were in line with our expectations given the delay of awards in the back half of 2024. That said, the addition of over $500 million of new awards to backlog by our world-class management team, Rustin and company, in the first quarter, as previously highlighted on our last call, has led to the growth in reported and adjusted backlog now reaching $1.4 billion. DBM remains well positioned in 2025 with a strong backlog and robust pipeline. We continue to monitor the ongoing tariff situation. At this point, DBM has not seen material impact to its business.
Given policy is constantly evolving, there is uncertainty about the full impact of tariffs on the cost of materials and project delays. DBM continues to actively monitor its project backlog and new project pipeline to mitigate any impacts. Longer term, tariff economics could potentially spur additional economic investments in the United States. Of note, President Trump expects $6 trillion to $7 trillion in investments to come into the United States after the tariffs take effect. Turning to Life Science.
As we discussed on our last call, MediBeacon received FDA approval for its transdermal GFR system to assess kidney function. We are beginning to see traction with exploring the potential application for TGFR through our initial conversations with clinicians in hospital and outpatient settings. The transdermal GFR kidney function technology has been used in preclinical research for over a decade by some of the most influential academic medical center key opinion leaders and pharmaceutical companies in the world and has been utilized in over 600 peer-reviewed publications and conference abstracts.
Also, we previously announced that the National Medical Products Administration in China also approved the MediBeacon TGFR Monitor and TGFR Sensor for the assessment of kidney function in patients with normal or impaired renal function. Finally, two peer-reviewed publications and high-impact medical journals were published.
These publications underscore the urgent need for improved kidney function assessment tools. These articles include data from the TGFR, including relmapirazin, in a range of chronic kidney disease patients. MediBeacon's Director of Clinical Applications, Dr. Stuart Goldstein, presented results from MediBeacon's next-generation TGF Sensor and monitored a clinical trial at the Chronic Kidney Disease Drug Development Summit in Boston in March 17 through the 19. MediBeacon's next-generation transdermal sensor is under review with the FDA.
This is a more user-friendly and cost-effective sensor. The TGFR system will be available for commercial sale in the fourth quarter of 2025. As previously mentioned, we are still currently engaged with Jefferies, and we continue to explore strategic alternatives. R2 kicked off 2025 with a strong performance, tripling its year-over-year revenue to $3.1 million in the first quarter 2025 compared to $1 million in the first quarter 2024. This momentum was fueled by the increased demand in North America with $2.4 million of revenue in the first quarter of 2025 compared to $800,000 in the prior year quarter.
Gross worldwide system unit sales surged 163% over first quarter 2024 led by a 109% increase in North America. R2 system backlog has now surpassed 100 units globally, positioning the company for continued growth. The company continues to expand its global footprint. During 2025, we have entered into distribution agreements in Spain, France, UK and several countries in South America.
We are now currently serving 28 countries and continue to expand. Glacial Skin devices continue to deliver impressive clinical and business outcomes for providers. In the first quarter of 2025, patient treatments grew 136%, while average monthly utilization per provider increased 42% compared to the same period last year. Glacial Skin's rising brand awareness is proving to be a powerful sales driver, with social media engagement growth outperforming industry competitors by 774%. Supporting this surge, R2 saw quarter-over-quarter increases of 347% in social media mentions, 561% in website users and 158% inpatient provider searches.
We are extremely pleased with the success at R2 and continue to believe the market opportunity for R2 is massive and remain pleased with the momentum the company has experienced year-over-year. Moving to Spectrum. First quarter revenues were $6.2 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $1.4 million, in line with expectations. As we spoke about on our last call, broadcasting signed a contract with Marathon Ventures to distribute 2 new, vibrant over-the-air networks, Nosey and Confess. As the year progresses, there will be additional new entrants in the OTA space, reflecting a growing trend in the broadcasting and streaming industries.
This shift is largely driven by the increasing demand for diverse and accessible content delivery methods. We are continuing to pursue commercial opportunities in data casting. Our team has been working diligently to develop and implement the necessary technology and partnerships to make this a reality. This opportunity should be revenue-generating by the end of the year. In addition, preparations are underway for ATSC 3.0 light housing to go live at KERA, the Dallas PBR station, in the second quarter.
In March, we took a significant step forward by filing a petition with the FCC to allow low-powered TV stations to voluntarily convert to 5G broadcast technology. This petition seeks to modernize broadcasting capabilities, enhancing data rates, reducing latency and improving overall connectivity for these stations. The FCC has put the petition out for public comment, which will allow for review of our proposal. This feedback is crucial as it will shape the final decision and ensure the transition to 5G broadcast is beneficial for all parties involved. As a reminder, our strategic vision for the business anchors upon maximizing the value of these assets.
Given the recent success in our businesses, we are encouraged in our ability to execute on behalf of shareholders. With that, I'll turn it over to Mike for a review of our financials and our capital structure.

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QUANEX BUILDING PRODUCTS CORPORATIONNON-GAAP FINANCIAL MEASURE DISCLOSURELAST TWELVE MONTHS ADJUSTED EBITDA RECONCILIATION(In thousands, except per share data)(Unaudited) Reconciliation of Last Twelve Months Adjusted EBITDA Three Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Three Months EndedJanuary 31, 2025 Three Months EndedOctober 31, 2024 Three Months EndedJuly 31, 2024 Total Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Net income (loss) as reported $ 20,515 $ (14,885 ) $ (13,917 ) $ 25,350 $ 17,063 Income tax expense (benefit) 6,307 (5,050 ) (3,621 ) 6,688 4,324 Other, net 159 (1,229 ) 2,671 (9,474 ) (7,873 ) Interest expense 13,940 14,186 17,697 878 46,701 Depreciation and amortization 19,192 24,740 27,329 10,953 82,214 EBITDA 60,113 17,762 30,159 34,395 142,429 Cost of sales (1) - - 887 1,507 2,394 Selling, general and administrative (1),(2),(3) 864 12,876 50,004 6,133 69,877 Restructuring charges (4) 936 7,904 - - 8,840 Adjusted EBITDA $ 61,913 $ 38,542 $ 81,050 $ 42,035 $ 223,540 (1) Expense (gain) related to plant closure. (2) Transaction, advisory fees, and reorganization costs. (3) Amortization of step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory. (4) Restructuring charges related to severeance and disposal of software. QUANEX BUILDING PRODUCTS CORPORATIONNON-GAAP FINANCIAL MEASURE DISCLOSURE(In thousands, except per share data)(Unaudited) Reconciliation of Adjusted Net Income and Adjusted EPS Three Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Three Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Net Income Diluted EPS Net Income Diluted EPS Net Income Diluted EPS Net Income Diluted EPS Net income as reported $ 20,515 $ 0.44 $ 15,377 $ 0.46 $ 5,630 $ 0.12 $ 21,626 $ 0.65 Net income reconciling items from below 7,372 $ 0.16 8,664 $ 0.27 31,218 $ 0.67 10,680 $ 0.33 Adjusted net income and adjusted EPS $ 27,887 $ 0.60 $ 24,041 $ 0.73 $ 36,848 $ 0.79 $ 32,306 $ 0.98 Reconciliation of Adjusted EBITDA Three Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Three Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Reconciliation Net income as reported $ 20,515 $ 15,377 $ 5,630 $ 21,626 Income tax (benefit) expense 6,307 4,314 1,257 5,956 Other, net 159 (4 ) (1,070 ) (1,046 ) Interest expense 13,940 950 28,126 2,018 Depreciation and amortization 19,192 10,894 43,932 22,046 EBITDA 60,113 31,531 77,875 50,600 EBITDA reconciling items from below 1,800 8,493 22,579 8,698 Adjusted EBITDA $ 61,913 $ 40,024 $ 100,454 $ 59,298 Reconciling Items Three Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Three Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2025 Six Months EndedApril 30, 2024 Income Statement Reconciling Items Income Statement Reconciling Items Income Statement Reconciling Items Income Statement Reconciling Items Net sales $ 452,478 $ - $ 266,201 $ - $ 852,522 $ - $ 505,356 $ - Cost of sales 321,096 - 199,963 (631 ) (1) 628,824 - 387,686 (631 ) (1) Selling, general and administrative 70,333 (864 ) (2) 34,707 (7,862 ) (1),(2) 136,983 (13,739 ) (2),(3) 67,070 (8,067 ) (1),(2) Restructuring charges 936 (936 ) (4) - - 8,840 (8,840 ) (4) - - EBITDA 60,113 1,800 31,531 8,493 77,875 22,579 50,600 8,698 Depreciation and amortization 19,192 (6,451 ) (5) 10,894 (2,956 ) (5) 43,932 (17,101 ) (5) 22,046 (6,185 ) (5) Operating income 40,921 8,251 20,637 11,449 33,943 39,680 28,554 14,883 Interest expense (13,940 ) - (950 ) - (28,126 ) - (2,018 ) - Other, net (159 ) 1,003 (6) 4 (92 ) (6) 1,070 831 (6) 1,046 (847 ) (6) Income before income taxes 26,822 9,254 19,691 11,357 6,887 40,511 27,582 14,036 Income tax expense (6,307 ) (1,882 ) (7) (4,314 ) (2,693 ) (7) (1,257 ) (9,293 ) (7) (5,956 ) (3,356 ) (7) Net income $ 20,515 $ 7,372 $ 15,377 $ 8,664 $ 5,630 $ 31,218 $ 21,626 $ 10,680 Diluted earnings per share $ 0.44 $ 0.46 $ 0.12 $ 0.65 (1) Expense (gain) related to plant closure. (2) Transaction, advisory fees, and reorganization costs. (3) Amortization of step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory. (4) Restructuring charges related to severeance and disposal of software. (5) Amortization expense related to intangible assets. (6) Pension settlement refund and foreign currency transaction losses (gains). (7) Tax impact of net income reconciling items. QUANEX BUILDING PRODUCTS CORPORATIONSELECTED SEGMENT DATA(In thousands)(Unaudited) This table provides gross margin, operating income (loss), EBITDA, and Adjusted EBITDA by reportable segment. Non-operating expense and income tax expense are not allocated to the reportable segments. NA Fenestration EU Fenestration NA Cabinet Components Tyman Unallocated Corp & Other Total Three months ended April 30, 2025 Net sales $ 151,026 $ 61,257 $ 51,237 $ 190,107 $ (1,149 ) $ 452,478 Cost of sales 113,760 39,001 42,405 126,743 (813 ) 321,096 Gross Margin 37,266 22,256 8,832 63,364 (336 ) 131,382 Gross Margin % 24.7% 36.3% 17.2% 33.3% 29.0% Selling, general and administrative (1) 15,938 9,038 5,725 37,271 2,361 70,333 Restructuring charges - - - 936 - 936 Depreciation and amortization 4,667 2,659 3,015 8,775 76 19,192 Operating income (loss) 16,661 10,559 92 16,382 (2,773 ) 40,921 Depreciation and amortization 4,667 2,659 3,015 8,775 76 19,192 EBITDA 21,328 13,218 3,107 25,157 (2,697 ) 60,113 Transaction, advisory fees, and reorganization costs - - - 675 189 864 Restructuring charges related to severance and disposal of software - - - 936 - 936 Adjusted EBITDA $ 21,328 $ 13,218 $ 3,107 $ 26,768 $ (2,508 ) $ 61,913 Adjusted EBITDA Margin % 14.1% 21.6% 6.1% 14.1% 13.7% Three months ended April 30, 2024 Net sales $ 159,774 $ 56,583 $ 51,078 $ - $ (1,234 ) $ 266,201 Cost of sales 122,261 35,694 42,624 - (616 ) 199,963 Gross Margin 37,513 20,889 8,454 - (618 ) 66,238 Gross Margin % 23.5% 36.9% 16.6% 24.9% Selling, general and administrative (1) 13,730 7,873 5,066 - 8,038 34,707 Depreciation and amortization 5,218 2,538 3,082 - 56 10,894 Operating income (loss) 18,565 10,478 306 - (8,712 ) 20,637 Depreciation and amortization 5,218 2,538 3,082 - 56 10,894 EBITDA 23,783 13,016 3,388 - (8,656 ) 31,531 Expense related to plant closure (Cost of sales) 631 - - - - 631 Expense related to plant closure (SG&A) 978 - - - - 978 Transaction and advisory fees - - - - 6,884 6,884 Adjusted EBITDA $ 25,392 $ 13,016 $ 3,388 $ - $ (1,772 ) $ 40,024 Adjusted EBITDA Margin % 15.9% 23.0% 6.6% 15.0% Six months ended April 30, 2025 Net sales $ 285,359 $ 109,728 $ 95,047 $ 365,783 $ (3,395 ) $ 852,522 Cost of sales 220,327 69,638 81,821 259,539 (2,501 ) 628,824 Gross Margin 65,032 40,090 13,226 106,244 (894 ) 223,698 Gross Margin % 22.8% 36.5% 13.9% 29.0% 26.2% Selling, general and administrative (1) 32,071 16,959 10,992 71,649 5,312 136,983 Restructuring charges - - - 8,840 - 8,840 Depreciation and amortization 9,446 5,269 6,024 23,038 155 43,932 Operating income (loss) 23,515 17,862 (3,790 ) 2,717 (6,361 ) 33,943 Depreciation and amortization 9,446 5,269 6,024 23,038 155 43,932 EBITDA 32,961 23,131 2,234 25,755 (6,206 ) 77,875 Amortization of step-up for purchase price adjustments on inventory - - - 9,007 - 9,007 Transaction, advisory fees, and reorganization costs - - - 2,142 2,590 4,732 Restructuring charges related to severance and disposal of software - - - 8,840 - 8,840 Adjusted EBITDA $ 32,961 $ 23,131 $ 2,234 $ 45,744 $ (3,616 ) $ 100,454 Adjusted EBITDA Margin % 11.6% 21.1% 2.4% 12.5% 11.8% Six months ended April 30, 2024 Net sales $ 307,769 $ 106,020 $ 94,215 $ - $ (2,648 ) $ 505,356 Cost of sales 240,629 67,397 81,367 - (1,707 ) 387,686 Gross Margin 67,140 38,623 12,848 - (941 ) 117,670 Gross Margin % 21.8% 36.4% 13.6% 23.3% Selling, general and administrative (1) 29,640 15,618 10,192 - 11,620 67,070 Depreciation and amortization 10,693 5,096 6,147 - 110 22,046 Operating income (loss) 26,807 17,909 (3,491 ) - (12,671 ) 28,554 Depreciation and amortization 10,693 5,096 6,147 - 110 22,046 EBITDA 37,500 23,005 2,656 - (12,561 ) 50,600 Expense related to plant closure (Cost of sales) 631 - - - - 631 Expense related to plant closure (SG&A) 978 - - - - 978 Transaction and advisory fees - - - - 7,089 7,089 Adjusted EBITDA $ 39,109 $ 23,005 $ 2,656 $ - $ (5,472 ) $ 59,298 Adjusted EBITDA Margin % 12.7% 21.7% 2.8% 11.7% (1) Includes stock-based compensation expense for the three and six months ended April 30, 2025, respectively of $0.6 million and $1.8 million and $1.5 million and $4.1 million for the comparable prior year periods. QUANEX BUILDING PRODUCTS CORPORATIONSALES ANALYSIS(In thousands)(Unaudited) Three Months Ended April 30, Six Months Ended April 30, 2025 2024 2025 2024 NA Fenestration: United States - fenestration $ 112,261 $ 119,646 $ 212,690 $ 231,280 International - fenestration 8,054 7,465 13,913 13,609 United States - non-fenestration 26,751 27,532 49,956 53,323 International - non-fenestration 3,960 5,131 8,800 9,557 $ 151,026 $ 159,774 $ 285,359 $ 307,769 EU Fenestration: (1) International - fenestration $ 50,687 $ 46,968 $ 92,743 $ 88,719 International - non-fenestration 10,570 9,615 16,985 17,301 $ 61,257 $ 56,583 $ 109,728 $ 106,020 NA Cabinet Components: United States - fenestration $ 3,507 $ 3,737 $ 6,959 $ 7,412 United States - non-fenestration 47,364 46,990 87,427 86,169 International - non-fenestration 366 351 661 634 $ 51,237 $ 51,078 $ 95,047 $ 94,215 Tyman: United States - fenestration $ 113,950 $ - $ 219,541 $ - International - fenestration 75,547 - 144,829 - United States - non-fenestration 610 - 1,395 - International - non-fenestration - - 18 - $ 190,107 $ - $ 365,783 $ - Unallocated Corporate & Other: Eliminations $ (1,149 ) $ (1,234 ) $ (3,395 ) $ (2,648 ) $ (1,149 ) $ (1,234 ) $ (3,395 ) $ (2,648 ) Net Sales $ 452,478 $ 266,201 $ 852,522 $ 505,356 (1) Reflects an increase of $0.2 million in revenue associated with foreign currency exchange rate impacts for the three and six months ended April 30, 2025, respectively. 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Dorman announces planned retirement of Chief Financial Officer David M. Hession
Dorman announces planned retirement of Chief Financial Officer David M. Hession

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Dorman announces planned retirement of Chief Financial Officer David M. Hession

COLMAR, Pa., June 05, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Dorman Products, Inc. ('Dorman' or the 'Company') (NASDAQ:DORM) announced today that David M. Hession, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, has informed Dorman of his plans to retire later this year. The Company has initiated a comprehensive search process with the assistance of a leading executive search firm to identify Mr. Hession's successor. Mr. Hession will remain in his position until a successor is in place and will serve in an advisory role thereafter to ensure a smooth transition. Kevin Olsen, Dorman's President and Chief Executive Officer, said, 'David has been integral in helping drive Dorman's strong financial performance over the last six years. On behalf of the Board of Directors and the management team, we would like to express our gratitude and wish him the very best in his upcoming retirement.' Mr. Hession joined Dorman as Chief Financial Officer in February 2019. During his tenure, he helped expand the business through strategic acquisitions, build a talented finance organization, and strengthen Dorman's balance sheet and liquidity position. Mr. Hession added, 'It's been an honor to lead Dorman's finance organization and work alongside Kevin and Dorman's management team. I am proud of what we have accomplished together and am confident that Dorman is well-positioned for continued success. I look forward to supporting the Company through the transition.' Contacts Alex Whitelam, Vice President, Investor Relations, awhitelam@ Visit our website at The Investor Relations section of the website contains a significant amount of information about Dorman, including financial and other information for investors. Dorman encourages investors to visit its website periodically to view new and updated information. About Dorman Dorman gives professionals, enthusiasts, and owners greater freedom to fix motor vehicles. For over 100 years, we have been driving new solutions, releasing tens of thousands of aftermarket replacement products engineered to save time and money and increase convenience and reliability. Founded and headquartered in the United States, we are a pioneering global organization offering an always-evolving catalog of products covering cars, trucks, and specialty vehicles, from chassis to body, from underhood to undercarriage, and from hardware to complex electronics. Forward-Looking Statements This press release contains 'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Words such as 'may,' 'will,' 'should,' 'likely,' 'probably,' 'anticipates,' 'expects,' 'intends,' 'plans,' 'projects,' 'believes,' 'views,' 'estimates,' and similar expressions are used to identify these forward-looking statements. Such forward-looking statements are based on current expectations that involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors (many of which are outside of our control) that may cause actual events to be materially different from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. For additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the information contained in this press release, please see Dorman's prior press releases and filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission ('SEC'), including Dorman's most recent annual report on Form 10-K and its subsequent SEC filings. Dorman is under no obligation to (and expressly disclaims any such obligation to) update any of the information in this press release if any forward-looking statement later turns out to be inaccurate, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.

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