
Bins v sacks: Why Edinburgh New Town's waste wars won't quit
It wasn't until after she entered the City Chambers that the council pressed ahead with a phased overhaul of the New Town's waste management system.
In a bid to appease locals horrified at the prospect of large black refuse containers blighting the entirety of their cobbled Georgian enclave, it opted to introduce communal bins on some streets, and 'gull-proof sacks' - stored within properties and placed out only on collection days - on others.
This was a compromise that largely kept residents happy. 'There's a slight mish mash of gull-proof sacks and bins now and the reason for that is at that point with the neighborhood manager we literally consulted street-by-street,' Mowat explained.'And people have got used to bins.'
Eventually, heads cooled and the matter was put to bed. That was, until 2021 when another waste management shake-up was announced.
Edinburgh Council launched its 'communal bin review' aiming to boost recycling rates among residents living in flats by introducing 'bin hubs' - groups of on-street bins providing separate containers for household waste, mixed recycling, glass, and food waste - to replace kerbside collections.
Read more:
Across the city, the roll-out of bin hubs has progressed since, sometimes met with complaints about odours, and issues with noise from glass deposits. However, according to the council the scheme has led to an increase in the amount of recycling collected and fewer reports of overflowing bins.
With work to install 55 bin hubs in the Old Town set to begin later this year, the New Town will be the final phase of the project - if councillors decide to pull the trigger at the transport committee on Thursday.
It has taken a long four years to reach this point. First brought to councillors in 2021, the plan - much like proposals two decades earlier - encountered significant pushback over its potential impact on the character of the neighbourhood.
When first mooted, the New Town and Broughton Community Council warned bin hubs were 'set to wreck the character' of the area,' describing them as 'ugly' and 'intrusive'.
Having groups of four bins as opposed to individual containers scattered individually along streets, the community council said, would 'permanently damage' the World Heritage Site, attract 'fly-tipping and encourage poor recycling habits' and 'take up scarce parking spaces'.
Historic Environment Scotland also cried foul at the idea to site bin hubs 'on streets currently without any visible waste collection,' while Edinburgh World Heritage warned of a 'threat to the visual integrity of the New Town'.
With the momentum of heritage groups behind them, various local street associations mounted a campaign against the plans and successfully halted the roll-out as the council agreed to trial green sacks for mixed recycling for the roughly 2,300 properties already using the black gull-proof sack service.
'The reason they went for gull-proof sacks was because they were getting a very well organised and well-funded campaign by a group of residents. Which they eventually gave in to and agreed,' Peter Williamson, current chair of NTBCC said.
'You could say that was because they were under so much pressure or because they were trying to be positive - maybe a bit of a mix - but nonetheless it was a campaign that led to the trial of gull-proof sacks which generally have been seen as successful in the areas they've been trialled. Therefore there was an expectation that when they went for the full roll-out other streets would sign up for a gull-proof sack.'
Launched in late 2022 - initially for 1,000 flats across nine streets but since extended - NTBCC said its own monitoring of individual streets showed a '250% increase in the volume of dry mixed recycling that is being collected,' while the council reported that the pilot saw an 'improvement in littering'.
But it wasn't always plain sailing. 'For gull-proof sacks, there were a lot of people who didn't have a scooby what they really involved,' Mr Williamson said. 'The bin bags are quite complicated in the way they work; people didn't understand them.
Gull-proof sacks in the New Town (Image: Newsquest) 'All along for over 18 months now we've been saying and others have been saying [to the council], have proper engagement with residents - which probably means organising, through residents' associations, helped by the community council, an offer of a meeting so you're not doing a sort of hand-off, drop a letter in and so on.'
It wasn't until the council agreed in November 2023 to extend the gull-proof sack service to a further 2,700 properties across 45 streets that the fightback truly gathered momentum.
A counter-campaign, 'Say No To Gull Proof Sacks' was swiftly mobilised, arguing it was unreasonable to expect residents to store a week's worth of waste in and around their homes. 'It is unhygienic,' their website said, 'think of the smell! [...] we all know rubbish can leak and produce ghastly bin juice.'
But the rebellion wasn't just to do with bins. Mr Williamson suspects there was 'a bit of class war going on'.
He said: 'There was a bit of unnecessary tension that had to do with other things than how refuse got picked up, to be honest.
'A few people said to me 'they live in the big houses, they were able to fundraise quite a lot.'
Through democracy, tensions can be quelled.
And so, earlier this year the council launched a consultation in an attempt to settle the matter once and for all.
In response, it has rowed back on its plans to impose gull-proof sacks on thousands more New Towners, proposing bin hubs instead.
And everyone lived happily ever after. Yeah, right.
A report to this week's transport committee seeks final approval from councillors for around 5,600 properties to switch from existing communal bins to bin hubs and 2,150 to keep the gull-proof sack service. Only 86 properties, on Nelson Street, will now switch from bins to sacks, with the opposite change—switching from sacks to bins—planned for 160 flats on Lennox Street and Eglinton Crescent.
The council said most consultation responses 'show that residents prefer to keep their existing service, rather than change service'.
It said: 'In 77 streets, the final recommended service is supported by consultation responses. In 59 streets, responses have either been very low or non-existent meaning it is not possible to identify a clear preference. In 13 streets, the responses are mixed and do not provide a clear preference.'
However, it's now claimed the council didn't make clear to residents the options being presented to them.
'The thing was so badly communicated that a lot of people thought that they were just going to carry on with their communal bins,' Mr Williamson said. 'They effectively said 'you'll just retain your same service'. But it's not the same service because they're in hubs now, they're not individual or two bins together.
'When you were filling in the questionnaire the council sent out, they didn't say the option is communal bin hubs, they just said it's communal bins. So people think: 'That's what we've got, I'll tick the box'.
The council's bin hub roll-out has been underway since 2021 (Image: Edinburgh Council) 'I think there is a fair amount of concern. A lot of people I've spoken to don't want [bin hubs].
'The consultation was conducted, nobody was allowed to say we don't want them - there was no alternative on offer.'
He also said that the 1,669 responses to the consultation were too few to justify proceeding.
'If you add in the fact people didn't necessarily know what they were ticking a box for,' he said, 'it is dishonest.
'I have told [the council] umpteen times that you can't conduct a survey in this way and then conclude you're working off the views of residents.
'Our message is that the whole consultation for more streets is just not valid, it's just not legitimate."
Councillor Mowat was similarly concerned people had been misled. 'Lots of people said 'actually we don't want this' but they didn't really know what the alternatives were.
'I think people thought 'you can change or it's the status quo' and people thought 'I'm quite happy with a couple of communal bins' and they've come back and said 'it's going to be bin hubs'.
'What they don't know is what the bin hub is going to look like, where it's going to be, how much parking they're going to lose. In some ways officers didn't anticipate.
'I think I would be supportive of a pause and going back, saying 'this is actually what the alternative looks like - how do you feel about that?'
Mowat is supportive of the council 'inviting people to meetings' to hear their opinions rather than running an online questionnaire. 'That's how we used to do it in the olden days,' she said.
'Because one of the problems we have is the recycling bins we have get contaminated on the street - So I've always thought there's an argument for this mixed economy of on-street residual waste bins and then people take responsibility for their recycling [with gull-proof sacks].
'They'll recycle more if you give them space to do it, that's where the green gull-proof sacks come in. I would really like that to be presented as an option.
Read more from our Edinburgh Correspondent:
'The trouble is it has gone on for so long that it may get quite heated. You have to manage expectations [...] I'm not sure having got to this stage now we haven't exacerbated the situation.'
In a statement, transport and environment convener Councillor Stephen Jenkinson said the consultation responses 'have all helped shape the final recommendations which, as well as improving the service, intend to address the current misuse of communal bins'.
In a briefing with journalists ahead of June's transport committee, he admitted things could have been made clearer during the engagement process. 'When we're talking about retaining the current service,' he said, 'their expectation is it's exactly the same as the service currently.'
Jenkinson acknowledged that telling residents they would 'retain' their service was 'not strictly true'. 'We've not really been clear enough as to that retaining a service that's changing is different from changing a service', he said.
'But ultimately, it's bin hubs or gull proof sacks.'
He stressed refuse collection was a 'statutory service of this local authority'.
'We have to pick up people's waste and have to do it as efficiently as possible,' he continued. 'I'm also a realist, not everybody is going to be happy about this
'We've got to take the city forward.
'Is everybody going to be doing backward flips through burning hoops of fire around the rollout of bin hubs in the New Town? No, but are we developing a service that's fit for the future? I believe we are.'
Hashtags

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles


Edinburgh Live
3 days ago
- Edinburgh Live
The forgotten Edinburgh scheme where 'proud' locals say they feel 'abandoned'
Our community members are treated to special offers, promotions and adverts from us and our partners. You can check out at any time. More info Proud residents of an Edinburgh scheme have complained of being 'forgotten and abandoned' as their community is left in a state of degradation. Clovenstone locals spoke to Edinburgh Live to express their love for their community, with warm words for their neighbours, but they called on Edinburgh Council to step in and prevent the area becoming tired and worn down. Litter and items strewn across streets, overgrown green areas, a lack of youth spaces and burned out vehicles are all issues plaguing the community, according to residents. Exploring the community, we bumped into a gran and a mother playing with their children at a back green on Clovenstone Park, both of them had spent their entire lives in the local area. Karen Shore, 49, who works as a pupil support officer at a local primary, shared fond memories of growing up in Clovenstone. Join Edinburgh Live's Whatsapp Community here and get the latest news sentstraight to your messages. 'I've lived in every part of Clovenstone and I'd never leave,' she said 'It was an amazing place to grow up, everyone looked out for each other. It is a great community. 'But there have been massive changes. I'd say the area used to be well respected because we all knew each other and took pride in the community. But over the years it has gone downhill. 'It is dirtier. There are not many bins around the place and a massive problem with littering. When my kids came home they would have litter in their pockets because they were raised like that. 'Flytipping is everywhere and when someone puts it up on Facebook, you will see a comment 'oh it is Wester Hailes, what do you expect?' It puts the area down. 'People rate it to be poor but it is not until you come to live here that you know what the community is about. No matter where you are you get daft people. 'Areas run by Prospect (housing association) are well looked after but there is a feeling the council do not do enough. People feel let down by them, buildings look really tired and areas are overgrown, it could do with getting tidied up but the council always moan about the budget. 'It makes you feel really down seeing how tired everything looks. If something is nice, and the area looks good, you feel pride. We are a disadvantaged area and we do need a bit of help. During my time working in the youth sector I've seen money cut but there is always cash for the wrong things like trams.' Her daughter Michaela Shore, 26, shared her pride in growing up in Clovenstone but she did not echo her mother's opinion of wanting to remain in the area for the rest of her life. 'I'm looking to buy at the moment but I probably would never buy here,' the Royal Edinburgh Hospital employee said. 'There is nothing for the kids, the parks haven't changed from when I was younger, and some of them have been taken away to stop antisocial behaviour. 'I've nothing against the area but the loss of things for kids to do is noticeable. I'd like to see the area tidied up and more accessible parks, there are a lot of families with disabilities, and there is nothing for kids in wheelchairs.' Anne Davidson, 45, who works as a receptionist and has lived in Clovenstone for the best part of 20 years, also called for more support while praising her neighbours sense of community. The Barn Park Crescent resident pointed out many locals are experiencing poverty while others struggle with mobility - making it difficult to maintain overgrown public greenspaces. 'People are disadvantaged and many have multiple health problems which mean they struggle with gardening and keeping on top of things,' she said while pointing to her own overgrown back green which was littered with fly tipped items. 'I think the council should be giving more support, there are kids in these stairs who could benefit from the spaces. 'We feel forgotten. That is what it is in Edinburgh, if you are not touched by tourism then you are forgotten, and Wester Hailes is not the only place. 'Folk have given up with outside spaces because it has become so bad. I know it is not a good mindset but it is where people are, what is the point? 'You see down Harvesters Way - there is a wee corner of communal ground, and a wee garden bit outside the stairs and it is gorgeous. People are keeping it nice. It goes to show if there is a bit of investment, people will look after their area. 'If the council sorts it, then we will be able to maintain it.' Anne added she moved to the area from Balgreen and enjoyed her time here but added her family have grown tired of the lack of support given to the community. 'My son went to local primary school and never had any bother up here and we have liked it,' she added. 'The place just needs help. It is so run down but I've nothing bad to say about the people. 'There is a real sense of community here. My son went to the local school, went to the community centre where he went camping with them when I was a single mum. It is a community. 'Years ago when my son was small we came out of a shop across the road there and this person came over, drunk, and tried to push us and grab my son, but people who did not even know us rushed over and helped. 'Even if people don't know each other, they will still help. It hurts me when people think it is a bad place, it isn't, there are a lot of good people here. 'I think it is because it looks so bad when driving past, people think it is shabby. It is pretty sad.' Michelle Hamilton, 51, is a hairdresser by trade and moved to the area from Carrick Knowe seven years ago. She told Edinburgh Live she loves the area but there does seem to be a divide in the cleanliness of areas depending on whether Prospect Housing Association or the council look after the space. 'It is really quiet, I love the area,' she said. 'I just sit with my book on my balcony on my days off. 'It is not what I expected it to be before I moved here as there was a perception of Clovenstone. But it is really nice and my neighbours are lovely. 'I would say I'm in a nice bit next to the up and coming area but you do notice the Prospect areas seem better looked after than the council.' Sign up for Edinburgh Live newsletters for more headlines straight to your inbox Local SNP councillor Neil Gardiner said: "There is a strong community in Clovenstone. With councillor Fiona Glasgow who lives locally, we have been working alongside local people to re-establish the Wester Hailes Community Council. "I'd encourage anyone with ideas for the area to speak to us or come along to the community council, bringing forward suggestions. Council services need to be focused on local needs. "Although in opposition, we want to make local services a focus of the current administration." Edinburgh council were approached for comment.


Scotsman
6 days ago
- Scotsman
Edinburgh's other disgrace
Weeds growing on Princes Street. Picture: Ian Georgeson My inbox is dom-inated by emails on the state of our city's streets. Sign up to our daily newsletter Sign up Thank you for signing up! Did you know with a Digital Subscription to Edinburgh News, you can get unlimited access to the website including our premium content, as well as benefiting from fewer ads, loyalty rewards and much more. Learn More Sorry, there seem to be some issues. Please try again later. Submitting... With buddleia seemingly sprouting from every rooftop crevice and no road complete without a ribbon of greenery growing out of the kerbside, Edinburgh is as unkempt as it has ever been. It's often put down to the Scottish Government starving local authorities of cash, and it is true that Edinburgh gets the worst deal per head that any other council area, but that is partly offset by the amount of business rates raised. Advertisement Hide Ad Advertisement Hide Ad A friend who was in Inverness last weekend reported it was spotless, so it comes down to the choices councils make. Successive administrations have chosen to deprioritise street cleanliness in the mistaken belief it doesn't matter that much. But clean streets improve civic pride and people are more likely to take greater care if they see an effort is being made. Overgrown litter traps and unemptied, overflowing bins, send a signal that if the city can't be bothered why should I? Thankfully, two young people I walked past the other day who pointed out what a state the street was in, took a different view. My Conservative colleagues on Edinburgh Council negotiated extra investment in street cleaning last year and that was great, but it wasn't enough, and whatever comes out of the latest shambles in the City Chambers, keeping the city spick and span must be a top priority.


Edinburgh Reporter
06-08-2025
- Edinburgh Reporter
Council gives retrospective consent for The Famous Spiegeltent
The planning application for the Famous Spiegeltent already constructed in St Andrew Square was heard by the council's planning department on Wednesday morning and approval was retrospectively given. Council officers had recommended it would be granted but the matter was discussed by councillors clearly concerned about tree protection measures and also the lateness of the application which ran 'roughshod' over council process. Consent has been given subject to the condition imposed that 'a tree monitoring report shall be submitted twice a week during the operation of the event to the planning authority, confirming all tree protection measures are installed and maintained on site and that no generator shall be positioned within the root protection areas' by a narrow vote of 6 to 4. The site has been operating since the end of June hosting events in the Jazz and Blues Festival and now during the Fringe despite the lack of consent. It will be open until 12 September 2025 to allow for take down. The committee considered the impact on the local heritage and also a great deal of the discussion focused on the trees. Cllr Mumford looked at the tree protection plan and asked about the oversight by council officers during the build. The planning officer said it was up to Essential Edinburgh as 'owner of the site' to liaise with the company behind the Spiegeltent. Some confusion arose around who owns the square, cleared up by Cllr Mowat who explained that the garden is owned by the 'frontagers' or owners of buildings in the square and then sub -leased by the council to Essential Edinburgh to manage on its behalf. Cllr Joanna Mowat who represents the City Centre said this is not the first time that an applicant has made a late application, but 'things have improved since the days when that used to happen more often'. She asked for some work in the future to ensure that officers are not determining applications as the build is taking place. She said: 'Given the information we have in front of us today I have got to the point where I can support officers' approval of this but can we take this away and ask what conversations do we need to have with ourselves and the festival industries about what happens if things come in very late again.' Cllr Kumar was also concerned about the lateness of the application. She said: 'I'm a bit perplexed by this application, so it was submitted on the 11th of June for construction at the end of June, and construction has now completed without approval. I appreciate the retrospective elements of this, but there is a deficient application, deficient monitoring. It's really concerning that there is almost no regard for due process.' Cllr Tim Pogson agreed with Cllr Mowat that he had sufficient information to approve the consent, but said: 'I think we need to make sure that festival producers take what their responsibilities are in this regard and make sure that they comply with all the regulatory requirements within the law. And I know that's more than just planning, so just I want somehow for this committee, or this council, to send a very strong message to all festival producers through the fringe office, or whoever it is, to say, Look these the deadlines we needed to comply with. Just you know, sort yourselves out and do that.' In the report before the committee it was stated that: 'There are a number of trees within the application site which are within close proximity to the proposed structures. Limited information was submitted at the time of submission, but a Tree Report and Tree Protection information has since been submitted.' The senior planning officer mentioned that the temporary nature of this development and the economic benefit to the city overrode any impact on the listed buildings surrounding the square, or the World Heritage Site more widely, especially as the buildings are of a 'modest scale'. The planning officer showed councillors some photos to illustrate the number of trees and also a diagram showing the proposed root protection areas for each – which they said were adequate although the council's tree officer does still have some concerns – again overridden by the temporary nature of the Fringe event space and the economic benefit to the city. The planning officer admitted that 'Quite a few objections have been raised' and the works were effectively unauthorised. Festival producers UniqueAssembly have denied that this application has anything to do with them. The council officer explained that matters had changed for the better in relation to the trees since the first application: 'The initial proposal showed the bar and dressing room constructed very close and really tight into the root protection areas and very close to the trees. We got these moved outwith such a sensitive area. It is still not great but the proposals were submitted so late in the process that I think we have got to a level where it is acceptable.' Cllr Mowat asked if any monitoring of the trees had been going on while this development has been on site and she asked if the council is aware of what is happening at the moment. The council officer said that she was not aware of any monitoring reports submitted since 30 June. This will have to change now due to the condition on twice weekly monitoring reports applied to the consent. Cllr Ben Parker asked for the consent to be refused completely but this amendment was defeated and the consent approved by 6 votes to 4. Like this: Like Related