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Readers reply: Will humans ever outgrow the nation state?

Readers reply: Will humans ever outgrow the nation state?

Yahoo04-05-2025
Will humans ever outgrow the nation state? Pat Spring, Harrogate
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Assuming that the entire recorded history of the human race represents a bit of a rough patch, there's every reason to suppose so. EddieChorepost
I asked an AI app and got the reply: 'Sorry, I faced some issues … please try again.' HistoricalArtefact
People need a sense of belonging. At the start of the first world war, there were many who thought that the proletariats of all nations would realise their common humanity and refuse to go to war; that lasted about 10 minutes until the French working class went to war for France, the Germans for Germany, etc.
There are, in every country, groups whose tribal, clan or religious affiliation override allegiance to the nation state and whole nation states where these divisions may cause rupture– Belgium comes to mind. But even if it splits apart those parts will become their own nations. bodfishbiker
Humans will be evolved into digital states. Apple and Amazon are the first two in the new atlas of digital states where allegiance will be measured real time with neural link-type implants; it is the natural progression from loyalty cardship, which is the natural progression from passportery. confusedofengland
Nation states are already being eroded or usurped by a global corporatocracy that: • influences elections and owns our political class; • prevents action beneficial to humans if it affects the bottom line; • controls wealth and employment; • breeds social disconnection and hyper-consumerism.
Democracy as we know it is looking less and less viable as its flaws are weaponised by technology and scientific advances.
It's more and more likely that if we survive the next few thousand years, we will become passengers, observers, or even servants to an artificial intelligence network with ideas, goals, and motivations that have nothing to do with what nations or people might want or need. Ivymantled
Only if people outgrow the 'us & them' mentality. There is no 'them', we are all 'us'. tonimoroni1
Nationalism is sold to us as a thing that we should be happy about and defend and often even get angry about, even to the point where you will kill. But it only serves defending those who have the money and the power in your country. If everyone who doesn't (but really does) have a stake in this, stood up and said 'nope', what happens then?
That's what this question is about. AlGreenie
Initially I thought 'nay way', but then I got to thinking about my mate Lee Chesterstreet and his prize leeks. The size of his alliums are something to behold. I think it unlikely that a nation state could outgrow him. LeCorbeau
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