Joe Rogan left in awe as CIA scientist reveals exact number of crashed UFOs the US has

Daily Mail​

05-05-2025

A former CIA scientist left Joe Rogan in awe after claiming to know the amount of secret alien tech in America's possession.
Dr Hal Puthoff, a physicist and electrical engineer who worked on the government's psychic spy and UFO research programs, revealed on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast that the US military has recovered more than 10 crashed UFOs since the 1940s.
The 88-year-old, who was briefly connected to the Church of Scientology and has openly discussed his belief in the existence of extraterrestrials, was the former project leader for the CIA's remote viewing program - which taught mentally gifted individuals how to psychically see distant objects and targets with their minds.
He added that even more of these 'non-human craft' have allegedly been recovered by other nations in isolated deserts and from the oceans around the world, with more possibly hiding out in alien bases underwater or near quite mountain ranges.
However, not all of the recovered ships were crashed wrecks. Puthoff said that perfectly intact UFOs have just been left 'as donations' for humans around the globe to find and learn from.
'Some of them are donations to help us accelerate our forward motion,' Puthoff told Rogan on Thursday.
'They donate something here, something in China, something in Russia, and see who is best at moving forward just as part of their ISR [intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance] evaluation of us,' he added.
Despite the growing call for the government to disclose what they know, the scientist said he worked on a secret project that has convinced US officials to never reveal the existence of aliens to the public.
Puthoff is renowned for his contributions to laser physics, psychology, and energy research.
In the 1970s and 1980s, Puthoff co-founded and directed the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and CIA-funded remote viewing program, investigating psychic phenomena for intelligence purposes.
The program, part of the Stargate Project, studied 'psychic spies' like Uri Geller and Ingo Swann as the US intelligence community gathered information on the Soviets during the Cold War.
Puthoff said that work made him a household name inside government circles, putting him of the list of experts to call when top-secret projects needed advising - including research into UFOS and recovered alien technology.
He noted that the recovery of crashed UFOs goes back decades, with the 1947 Roswell crash in New Mexico still being one of the most famous cases.
'I think it was a true non-human intelligence craft that crashed,' the former government scientist said on the podcast.
Puthoff noted that one of his colleagues, Dr Eric Davis, spoke to the commander of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, where the debris from the Roswell incident was allegedly flown - and they confirmed that the crash really happened.
'They say it was the real deal, that this was a real unidentifiable crash and these materials were really, really from out someplace,' Puthoff said.
Dr Davis, a physicist who has been a consultant for the Pentagon's UFO program since 2007, also spoke about crashed alien ships at a congressional hearing on Thursday.
Davis said publicly that the Defense Department had been operating a secret program to recover crashed UFOs since the presidency of Dwight Eisenhower in the 1950s.
All of this activity, Davis said, was being done without congressional oversight or approval, with project code names regularly changing every few years to cover up the Defense Department's actions.
As for what the government has discovered from what they've found inside these craft, Puthoff revealed that he's still sworn to secrecy.
'Did anything come out of that analysis?' Rogan asked about the UFO debris from Roswell.
'Not that the public would hear about,' Puthoff revealed. 'Not that I could disclose.'
The scientist added that the level of secrecy within the US government when it comes to the study of crashed UFO technology has become 'really obscene.'
According to Puthoff, there are people working on these top-secret projects that can't even tell the researcher sitting right next to them what they're working on and vice versa.
He did tell Rogan that 'We have data about crashes in other countries. So it's really clear that we're not the only ones on the planet.'
Puthoff noted that he and his colleagues, including revered UFO expert Jacques Vallée, suspect that these craft could have arrived on Earth up to 3,000 years ago and are now hiding in mountain bases or under the ocean.
However, another theory claims that UFOs originate from a race of advanced humans who trace their ancestry back to the mythical city of Atlantis and are now hiding from present day humans.
Despite Puthoff's revelations, he said that the public should not expect a shocking announcement about the existence of aliens or UFOs from the US government.
In 2004, Puthoff was recruited by Navy officials to take part in a secret project in Washington DC that he claims has convinced the country's leaders to never reveal what they know about extraterrestrials.
The physicist was part of a large group of scientific experts, former intelligence agents, and military officials who were given the unique problem to deal with.
Government officials told the group that the US, China, and Russia had obtained an extraterrestrial craft. There was proof of a crash and bodies were recovered.
Officials didn't clarify if this was a hypothetical situation or real, but they asked the group to examine all the ways releasing this information to the public could positively or negatively affect society.
Puthoff said his group came up with around 60 different items, ranging from the stock market to religions, that might be affected by the disclosure of alien life.
'We had to go give it a score from plus 9 to minus 9 as to how intense the effect would be and whether it's positive or negative,' the scientist explained.
It turned out that Puthoff's group and every other group in the secret project came back with the same result, telling the public would ultimately have a negative impact on society.
One of their examples Puthoff's team came up with was the government giving UFO technology to one company but not one of their competitors.
Years later, the company who benefited from working with alien technology is thriving while the other business went bankrupt.
The scientist said the government going public with the news about UFOs would inevitably lead to these bankrupt companies suing anyone who benefitted from the access to UFO tech.
'So the outcome of that exercise was, if you're thinking about disclosure, forget it,' Puthoff declared.