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Angus Taylor affirms the Coalition's ‘utter commitment' to AUKUS initiative

Angus Taylor affirms the Coalition's ‘utter commitment' to AUKUS initiative

Sky News AU23-07-2025
Shadow Defence Minister Angus Taylor discusses the Opposition's 'complete commitment' to the importance of the AUKUS pact.
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