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- AU Financial Review
The 3 things Australia should think about Trump-Putin peace talks
As Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin meet in Alaska, beyond the PR and stage-managed pageantry, there are three aspects that Australians could consider. Russia's war on Ukrainians, rather than happening a 'long way away', is of significant consequence to Australia's immediate region and its future geopolitical arrangements. Any so-called 'deal' that involves ceding Ukrainian territory or curbing its sovereignty has a huge impact on Australia's long-standing foreign policy goals; Australia's interest – an end to the war – cannot be fulfilled without the full engagement of Ukraine and its allies in a workable and just peace.
The Advertiser
3 hours ago
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Our govt made a choice to be anti-Israel. And it's basically sunk a two-state solution
How much would you pay to see a video of the final discussions Labor had about recognising a Palestinian state? The expression a mozza comes to mind. You could sell more tickets than you might initially imagine. One of the problems we face right across the policy spectrum is the overly optimistic, indeed almost childish belief that there is "a solution". It's as though we actually believe it is a perfect world and the only problem is we have somehow simply got the pieces of the jigsaw in the wrong place. Oh, if it were that simple. The brutal reality is that the world, delightful as it may be in so many respects, is in fact Mother Nature writ large. That means it's ugly. Bambi gets eaten by the lion. The weaker birds are kicked out of the nest. The stronger groups of whatever, plants, animals and people takeover the weaker. Floods, famine, volcanic eruptions and wars kill people. Including children. There is no silver bullet. There is no magic wand. We hate to see suffering, so we keep altruistically fiddling with the jigsaw pieces. This is particularly so where the welfare of children is concerned. None of us want to see human suffering, especially that of children. Under the cover of that vein of unrealistic optimism, Labor says it sees Arab and Muslim states (including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt) calling in July for Hamas to disarm and give up power in Gaza as an historic catalyst for peace. In reality, it looks like Labor is just seizing an opportunity to push ahead with a pre-existing agenda. (Someone should write a book about Qatar's role with Hamas generally and with Israel.) If you think there's a snowflake's chance in hell that Hamas will actually do that, as opposed to possibly making appearances of doing it, good luck to you. Buy-now, pay-later schemes rarely work out to be fair. Similarly, saying recognition now, but you bad guys will have to play nice later just seems, well, stupid. Is this a comedy or a tragedy? Who knows. As a piece of theatre, the former but in real life, the latter. Plenty of Australians like me may not vote Labor but presumably we can all recognise that rather than Labor members being completely stupid (OK there are always some exceptions to most things) they just have a different philosophical approach. But the rubric of a different philosophical approach can't explain away what looks to be a knee-jerk, jingoistic, me-too, pipe dream. Labor hasn't handled the whole issue since 2023 well at all. They were way too slow to recognise the flourishing anti-Semitism and consequently to do something effective about it. Our government should have stood up strongly against anti-Semitism very early on. It failed to do so. They have failed over the nearly two years since October 7, 2023 to effectively stand with Israel against Hamas and Palestinians for those horrendous atrocities. Like it or not, Labor is seen as anti-Israel. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert does not support Benjamin Netanyahu at all. He does, however, support and, more than most, has put in the hard yards on finding a two-state solution. He nonetheless says our move to recognise first, get the delivery of essentials later is "a populist, symbolic act that will not advance a two-state solution." He's a voice of experience in the Middle East, unlike the cavalcade of outsiders rushing in to appear relevant. For my part, he's made the right assessment. Labor will not get the same response internationally as the UK and France have for making this call. That's quite simply because, rightly or wrongly, any words of support for Israel since October 2023 from our government have seemed as muted as they could possibly be and in direct contrast to that for Palestinians. Rightly or wrongly, it appears our government made a clear choice to be anti-Israel. In contrast, the UK and France have been more conciliatory. Hence, their "distancing" from what Israel would like is much more significant. READ MORE AMANDA VANSTONE: Have you heard our government condemning Hamas and indeed Palestinians at all, let alone with any commitment, for having weapons storage and firing facilities under and next to schools and hospitals? It's a war crime to use innocent people as protection for your military stashes. By doing it, you choose to put innocent people at risk. Have you heard, have we been told, how much we've given to UNWRA after the role so many of their employees were playing both in the October 2023 massacre and elsewhere was established? In any event, there'll be another wasteful Talk Fest at the UN. Politicians from all over the world will fly there and back feeling as if they've contributed something. But nothing positive will have happened. The down side is a message goes to Hamas that brutal terrorism over decades will be rewarded. It tells Palestinians in Gaza that Hamas is an effective advocate on their behalf. If that's not a big mistake, what is? Put all that aside and agree to disagree on what I think is a stupid decision. Can we make it work? In my view, no. To recognise a state, you need a defined area of land. Good luck with that. Sure, there are ideas about what might work. In the past, at the last minute, these ideas have fallen apart. Does anyone think Israel will just walk away and say OK to what a bunch of other people suggest? Will the Palestinians accept what the international community proposes? Start dreaming. Then we need a category of people. Who will we regard as Palestinian? That, when it gets down to the nitty gritty will not be easy. However, if you want an elected government, either to start with or to move towards, you need to face that question. You can't have a state without a government, so you are absolutely stuck with working out who will and will not be entitled to vote. Oh, and we need a way to ensure that terrorist groups like Hamas are kept out. They might agree publicly to go. Might. Sounds great. But you can call for terrorist groups to disarm and leave. You can beat your chest until it's black and blue. My guess is a quick reality check will tell you it's not going to happen. Whatever the public declaration, whatever show is put on for the media, terrorists do not generally just pack up their tents and move away. Or if they do, it is only to return with different tents. You would have to be completely stupid to imagine that Hamas don't already have people groomed up to look like disconnected outsiders but who are in fact trained operatives ready to infiltrate any new state. No amount of luck will help you there. Adding to all of this is the people themselves. A number of Palestinians in Gaza remain supportive of Hamas. Some behaviour in the streets following the events of October was not that of a people looking for peace with Israel. It is extraordinarily difficult to imagine that Hamas could operate in Gaza as it has without the support of the people. Recognition of a state will only boost support for Hamas. Make them stronger. Children who may have been taught all their lives that Jews are infidels who need to be killed are not going to unthink that atrocious thought overnight. Imagine telling them at school that the adults have had a chat with some people in other countries and now all bets on driving Israelis off the planet are off? Let's see how that goes. How much would you pay to see a video of the final discussions Labor had about recognising a Palestinian state? The expression a mozza comes to mind. You could sell more tickets than you might initially imagine. One of the problems we face right across the policy spectrum is the overly optimistic, indeed almost childish belief that there is "a solution". It's as though we actually believe it is a perfect world and the only problem is we have somehow simply got the pieces of the jigsaw in the wrong place. Oh, if it were that simple. The brutal reality is that the world, delightful as it may be in so many respects, is in fact Mother Nature writ large. That means it's ugly. Bambi gets eaten by the lion. The weaker birds are kicked out of the nest. The stronger groups of whatever, plants, animals and people takeover the weaker. Floods, famine, volcanic eruptions and wars kill people. Including children. There is no silver bullet. There is no magic wand. We hate to see suffering, so we keep altruistically fiddling with the jigsaw pieces. This is particularly so where the welfare of children is concerned. None of us want to see human suffering, especially that of children. Under the cover of that vein of unrealistic optimism, Labor says it sees Arab and Muslim states (including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt) calling in July for Hamas to disarm and give up power in Gaza as an historic catalyst for peace. In reality, it looks like Labor is just seizing an opportunity to push ahead with a pre-existing agenda. (Someone should write a book about Qatar's role with Hamas generally and with Israel.) If you think there's a snowflake's chance in hell that Hamas will actually do that, as opposed to possibly making appearances of doing it, good luck to you. Buy-now, pay-later schemes rarely work out to be fair. Similarly, saying recognition now, but you bad guys will have to play nice later just seems, well, stupid. Is this a comedy or a tragedy? Who knows. As a piece of theatre, the former but in real life, the latter. Plenty of Australians like me may not vote Labor but presumably we can all recognise that rather than Labor members being completely stupid (OK there are always some exceptions to most things) they just have a different philosophical approach. But the rubric of a different philosophical approach can't explain away what looks to be a knee-jerk, jingoistic, me-too, pipe dream. Labor hasn't handled the whole issue since 2023 well at all. They were way too slow to recognise the flourishing anti-Semitism and consequently to do something effective about it. Our government should have stood up strongly against anti-Semitism very early on. It failed to do so. They have failed over the nearly two years since October 7, 2023 to effectively stand with Israel against Hamas and Palestinians for those horrendous atrocities. Like it or not, Labor is seen as anti-Israel. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert does not support Benjamin Netanyahu at all. He does, however, support and, more than most, has put in the hard yards on finding a two-state solution. He nonetheless says our move to recognise first, get the delivery of essentials later is "a populist, symbolic act that will not advance a two-state solution." He's a voice of experience in the Middle East, unlike the cavalcade of outsiders rushing in to appear relevant. For my part, he's made the right assessment. Labor will not get the same response internationally as the UK and France have for making this call. That's quite simply because, rightly or wrongly, any words of support for Israel since October 2023 from our government have seemed as muted as they could possibly be and in direct contrast to that for Palestinians. Rightly or wrongly, it appears our government made a clear choice to be anti-Israel. In contrast, the UK and France have been more conciliatory. Hence, their "distancing" from what Israel would like is much more significant. READ MORE AMANDA VANSTONE: Have you heard our government condemning Hamas and indeed Palestinians at all, let alone with any commitment, for having weapons storage and firing facilities under and next to schools and hospitals? It's a war crime to use innocent people as protection for your military stashes. By doing it, you choose to put innocent people at risk. Have you heard, have we been told, how much we've given to UNWRA after the role so many of their employees were playing both in the October 2023 massacre and elsewhere was established? In any event, there'll be another wasteful Talk Fest at the UN. Politicians from all over the world will fly there and back feeling as if they've contributed something. But nothing positive will have happened. The down side is a message goes to Hamas that brutal terrorism over decades will be rewarded. It tells Palestinians in Gaza that Hamas is an effective advocate on their behalf. If that's not a big mistake, what is? Put all that aside and agree to disagree on what I think is a stupid decision. Can we make it work? In my view, no. To recognise a state, you need a defined area of land. Good luck with that. Sure, there are ideas about what might work. In the past, at the last minute, these ideas have fallen apart. Does anyone think Israel will just walk away and say OK to what a bunch of other people suggest? Will the Palestinians accept what the international community proposes? Start dreaming. Then we need a category of people. Who will we regard as Palestinian? That, when it gets down to the nitty gritty will not be easy. However, if you want an elected government, either to start with or to move towards, you need to face that question. You can't have a state without a government, so you are absolutely stuck with working out who will and will not be entitled to vote. Oh, and we need a way to ensure that terrorist groups like Hamas are kept out. They might agree publicly to go. Might. Sounds great. But you can call for terrorist groups to disarm and leave. You can beat your chest until it's black and blue. My guess is a quick reality check will tell you it's not going to happen. Whatever the public declaration, whatever show is put on for the media, terrorists do not generally just pack up their tents and move away. Or if they do, it is only to return with different tents. You would have to be completely stupid to imagine that Hamas don't already have people groomed up to look like disconnected outsiders but who are in fact trained operatives ready to infiltrate any new state. No amount of luck will help you there. Adding to all of this is the people themselves. A number of Palestinians in Gaza remain supportive of Hamas. Some behaviour in the streets following the events of October was not that of a people looking for peace with Israel. It is extraordinarily difficult to imagine that Hamas could operate in Gaza as it has without the support of the people. Recognition of a state will only boost support for Hamas. Make them stronger. Children who may have been taught all their lives that Jews are infidels who need to be killed are not going to unthink that atrocious thought overnight. Imagine telling them at school that the adults have had a chat with some people in other countries and now all bets on driving Israelis off the planet are off? Let's see how that goes. How much would you pay to see a video of the final discussions Labor had about recognising a Palestinian state? The expression a mozza comes to mind. You could sell more tickets than you might initially imagine. One of the problems we face right across the policy spectrum is the overly optimistic, indeed almost childish belief that there is "a solution". It's as though we actually believe it is a perfect world and the only problem is we have somehow simply got the pieces of the jigsaw in the wrong place. Oh, if it were that simple. The brutal reality is that the world, delightful as it may be in so many respects, is in fact Mother Nature writ large. That means it's ugly. Bambi gets eaten by the lion. The weaker birds are kicked out of the nest. The stronger groups of whatever, plants, animals and people takeover the weaker. Floods, famine, volcanic eruptions and wars kill people. Including children. There is no silver bullet. There is no magic wand. We hate to see suffering, so we keep altruistically fiddling with the jigsaw pieces. This is particularly so where the welfare of children is concerned. None of us want to see human suffering, especially that of children. Under the cover of that vein of unrealistic optimism, Labor says it sees Arab and Muslim states (including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt) calling in July for Hamas to disarm and give up power in Gaza as an historic catalyst for peace. In reality, it looks like Labor is just seizing an opportunity to push ahead with a pre-existing agenda. (Someone should write a book about Qatar's role with Hamas generally and with Israel.) If you think there's a snowflake's chance in hell that Hamas will actually do that, as opposed to possibly making appearances of doing it, good luck to you. Buy-now, pay-later schemes rarely work out to be fair. Similarly, saying recognition now, but you bad guys will have to play nice later just seems, well, stupid. Is this a comedy or a tragedy? Who knows. As a piece of theatre, the former but in real life, the latter. Plenty of Australians like me may not vote Labor but presumably we can all recognise that rather than Labor members being completely stupid (OK there are always some exceptions to most things) they just have a different philosophical approach. But the rubric of a different philosophical approach can't explain away what looks to be a knee-jerk, jingoistic, me-too, pipe dream. Labor hasn't handled the whole issue since 2023 well at all. They were way too slow to recognise the flourishing anti-Semitism and consequently to do something effective about it. Our government should have stood up strongly against anti-Semitism very early on. It failed to do so. They have failed over the nearly two years since October 7, 2023 to effectively stand with Israel against Hamas and Palestinians for those horrendous atrocities. Like it or not, Labor is seen as anti-Israel. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert does not support Benjamin Netanyahu at all. He does, however, support and, more than most, has put in the hard yards on finding a two-state solution. He nonetheless says our move to recognise first, get the delivery of essentials later is "a populist, symbolic act that will not advance a two-state solution." He's a voice of experience in the Middle East, unlike the cavalcade of outsiders rushing in to appear relevant. For my part, he's made the right assessment. Labor will not get the same response internationally as the UK and France have for making this call. That's quite simply because, rightly or wrongly, any words of support for Israel since October 2023 from our government have seemed as muted as they could possibly be and in direct contrast to that for Palestinians. Rightly or wrongly, it appears our government made a clear choice to be anti-Israel. In contrast, the UK and France have been more conciliatory. Hence, their "distancing" from what Israel would like is much more significant. READ MORE AMANDA VANSTONE: Have you heard our government condemning Hamas and indeed Palestinians at all, let alone with any commitment, for having weapons storage and firing facilities under and next to schools and hospitals? It's a war crime to use innocent people as protection for your military stashes. By doing it, you choose to put innocent people at risk. Have you heard, have we been told, how much we've given to UNWRA after the role so many of their employees were playing both in the October 2023 massacre and elsewhere was established? In any event, there'll be another wasteful Talk Fest at the UN. Politicians from all over the world will fly there and back feeling as if they've contributed something. But nothing positive will have happened. The down side is a message goes to Hamas that brutal terrorism over decades will be rewarded. It tells Palestinians in Gaza that Hamas is an effective advocate on their behalf. If that's not a big mistake, what is? Put all that aside and agree to disagree on what I think is a stupid decision. Can we make it work? In my view, no. To recognise a state, you need a defined area of land. Good luck with that. Sure, there are ideas about what might work. In the past, at the last minute, these ideas have fallen apart. Does anyone think Israel will just walk away and say OK to what a bunch of other people suggest? Will the Palestinians accept what the international community proposes? Start dreaming. Then we need a category of people. Who will we regard as Palestinian? That, when it gets down to the nitty gritty will not be easy. However, if you want an elected government, either to start with or to move towards, you need to face that question. You can't have a state without a government, so you are absolutely stuck with working out who will and will not be entitled to vote. Oh, and we need a way to ensure that terrorist groups like Hamas are kept out. They might agree publicly to go. Might. Sounds great. But you can call for terrorist groups to disarm and leave. You can beat your chest until it's black and blue. My guess is a quick reality check will tell you it's not going to happen. Whatever the public declaration, whatever show is put on for the media, terrorists do not generally just pack up their tents and move away. Or if they do, it is only to return with different tents. You would have to be completely stupid to imagine that Hamas don't already have people groomed up to look like disconnected outsiders but who are in fact trained operatives ready to infiltrate any new state. No amount of luck will help you there. Adding to all of this is the people themselves. A number of Palestinians in Gaza remain supportive of Hamas. Some behaviour in the streets following the events of October was not that of a people looking for peace with Israel. It is extraordinarily difficult to imagine that Hamas could operate in Gaza as it has without the support of the people. Recognition of a state will only boost support for Hamas. Make them stronger. Children who may have been taught all their lives that Jews are infidels who need to be killed are not going to unthink that atrocious thought overnight. Imagine telling them at school that the adults have had a chat with some people in other countries and now all bets on driving Israelis off the planet are off? Let's see how that goes. How much would you pay to see a video of the final discussions Labor had about recognising a Palestinian state? The expression a mozza comes to mind. You could sell more tickets than you might initially imagine. One of the problems we face right across the policy spectrum is the overly optimistic, indeed almost childish belief that there is "a solution". It's as though we actually believe it is a perfect world and the only problem is we have somehow simply got the pieces of the jigsaw in the wrong place. Oh, if it were that simple. The brutal reality is that the world, delightful as it may be in so many respects, is in fact Mother Nature writ large. That means it's ugly. Bambi gets eaten by the lion. The weaker birds are kicked out of the nest. The stronger groups of whatever, plants, animals and people takeover the weaker. Floods, famine, volcanic eruptions and wars kill people. Including children. There is no silver bullet. There is no magic wand. We hate to see suffering, so we keep altruistically fiddling with the jigsaw pieces. This is particularly so where the welfare of children is concerned. None of us want to see human suffering, especially that of children. Under the cover of that vein of unrealistic optimism, Labor says it sees Arab and Muslim states (including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt) calling in July for Hamas to disarm and give up power in Gaza as an historic catalyst for peace. In reality, it looks like Labor is just seizing an opportunity to push ahead with a pre-existing agenda. (Someone should write a book about Qatar's role with Hamas generally and with Israel.) If you think there's a snowflake's chance in hell that Hamas will actually do that, as opposed to possibly making appearances of doing it, good luck to you. Buy-now, pay-later schemes rarely work out to be fair. Similarly, saying recognition now, but you bad guys will have to play nice later just seems, well, stupid. Is this a comedy or a tragedy? Who knows. As a piece of theatre, the former but in real life, the latter. Plenty of Australians like me may not vote Labor but presumably we can all recognise that rather than Labor members being completely stupid (OK there are always some exceptions to most things) they just have a different philosophical approach. But the rubric of a different philosophical approach can't explain away what looks to be a knee-jerk, jingoistic, me-too, pipe dream. Labor hasn't handled the whole issue since 2023 well at all. They were way too slow to recognise the flourishing anti-Semitism and consequently to do something effective about it. Our government should have stood up strongly against anti-Semitism very early on. It failed to do so. They have failed over the nearly two years since October 7, 2023 to effectively stand with Israel against Hamas and Palestinians for those horrendous atrocities. Like it or not, Labor is seen as anti-Israel. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert does not support Benjamin Netanyahu at all. He does, however, support and, more than most, has put in the hard yards on finding a two-state solution. He nonetheless says our move to recognise first, get the delivery of essentials later is "a populist, symbolic act that will not advance a two-state solution." He's a voice of experience in the Middle East, unlike the cavalcade of outsiders rushing in to appear relevant. For my part, he's made the right assessment. Labor will not get the same response internationally as the UK and France have for making this call. That's quite simply because, rightly or wrongly, any words of support for Israel since October 2023 from our government have seemed as muted as they could possibly be and in direct contrast to that for Palestinians. Rightly or wrongly, it appears our government made a clear choice to be anti-Israel. In contrast, the UK and France have been more conciliatory. Hence, their "distancing" from what Israel would like is much more significant. READ MORE AMANDA VANSTONE: Have you heard our government condemning Hamas and indeed Palestinians at all, let alone with any commitment, for having weapons storage and firing facilities under and next to schools and hospitals? It's a war crime to use innocent people as protection for your military stashes. By doing it, you choose to put innocent people at risk. Have you heard, have we been told, how much we've given to UNWRA after the role so many of their employees were playing both in the October 2023 massacre and elsewhere was established? In any event, there'll be another wasteful Talk Fest at the UN. Politicians from all over the world will fly there and back feeling as if they've contributed something. But nothing positive will have happened. The down side is a message goes to Hamas that brutal terrorism over decades will be rewarded. It tells Palestinians in Gaza that Hamas is an effective advocate on their behalf. If that's not a big mistake, what is? Put all that aside and agree to disagree on what I think is a stupid decision. Can we make it work? In my view, no. To recognise a state, you need a defined area of land. Good luck with that. Sure, there are ideas about what might work. In the past, at the last minute, these ideas have fallen apart. Does anyone think Israel will just walk away and say OK to what a bunch of other people suggest? Will the Palestinians accept what the international community proposes? Start dreaming. Then we need a category of people. Who will we regard as Palestinian? That, when it gets down to the nitty gritty will not be easy. However, if you want an elected government, either to start with or to move towards, you need to face that question. You can't have a state without a government, so you are absolutely stuck with working out who will and will not be entitled to vote. Oh, and we need a way to ensure that terrorist groups like Hamas are kept out. They might agree publicly to go. Might. Sounds great. But you can call for terrorist groups to disarm and leave. You can beat your chest until it's black and blue. My guess is a quick reality check will tell you it's not going to happen. Whatever the public declaration, whatever show is put on for the media, terrorists do not generally just pack up their tents and move away. Or if they do, it is only to return with different tents. You would have to be completely stupid to imagine that Hamas don't already have people groomed up to look like disconnected outsiders but who are in fact trained operatives ready to infiltrate any new state. No amount of luck will help you there. Adding to all of this is the people themselves. A number of Palestinians in Gaza remain supportive of Hamas. Some behaviour in the streets following the events of October was not that of a people looking for peace with Israel. It is extraordinarily difficult to imagine that Hamas could operate in Gaza as it has without the support of the people. Recognition of a state will only boost support for Hamas. Make them stronger. Children who may have been taught all their lives that Jews are infidels who need to be killed are not going to unthink that atrocious thought overnight. Imagine telling them at school that the adults have had a chat with some people in other countries and now all bets on driving Israelis off the planet are off? Let's see how that goes.
SBS Australia
4 hours ago
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Australian Council for Trade Unions to push for a four-day work week at upcoming economic summit
The Australian Council for Trade Unions (ACTU) has joined the call to make the four-day work week standard across the country; however, the prime minister and treasurer have made it clear they have no plans to implement it. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said they have no intention of adopting the proposal but acknowledged that unions have the right to put forward any idea. Meanwhile, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry's Andrew McKellar said the idea is counterproductive and called for more practical and realistic solutions. LISTEN TO SBS Filipino 06:14 Filipino 📢 Where to Catch SBS Filipino
