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Loretta Swit, who played libido-driven Maj. ‘Hot Lips' Houlihan on ‘M*A*S*H,' dies at 87

Loretta Swit, who played libido-driven Maj. ‘Hot Lips' Houlihan on ‘M*A*S*H,' dies at 87

Loretta Swit, the Emmy-winning actor best known for her time as Maj. Margaret 'Hot Lips' Houlihan on the TV version of 'M*A*S*H,' died Friday in her New York City apartment, her representative confirmed to The Times. She was 87.
Swit was found by her housekeeper around 10 a.m., according to publicist Harlan Boll, who said he had been on the phone with her at 11 p.m. local time Thursday night — 2 a.m. Friday in New York. Her doorman saw her drop something in the mail at 4 a.m. Friday, New York time, Boll said, and six hours later, she was gone.
The actor — born Loretta Jane Szwed on Nov. 4, 1937, in Passaic, N.J. — loved playing Hot Lips so much that she was the only performer other than Alan Alda who stayed on the series from its pilot in 1972 through its much-watched finale in 1983. 'M*A*S*H,' set during the Korean War, was a sitcom but also more than that to Swit.
'There is, I think, an intelligence behind the humor,' she told The Times in 1977. 'The audience is huge, and they deserve to be entertained on the highest level we can achieve.'
Though her portrayal of the libido-driven blond in fatigues and Army boots catapulted Swit to household-name status, she had been in acting since before her 8th birthday in stage productions and musicals in New York. She left home at 17 to work in the theater, temping at secretarial jobs while studying at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.
A confessed workaholic, Swit moved easily from comedy to drama, acting in 'Same Time, Next Year,' 'Mame' and 'The Odd Couple' before moving to Los Angeles to star in 'M*A*S*H.' She appeared in iconic series such as 'Hawaii Five-O,' 'Mission: Impossible' and 'Mannix,' and had a productive television career until very recently.
Her most recent TV appearance was as herself in the 2024 Fox tribute special 'M*A*S*H: The Comedy That Changed Television.'
Her theater work was plentiful, and in addition to Broadway, off-Broadway, regional and national work, included shows in Southern California. She joined Harry Hamlin in 'One November Yankee' at the NoHo Arts Center in 2012, three years after doing a reading of the play with a different actor at the Pasadena Playhouse.
'M*A*S*H' filmed its outdoor scenes at Malibu Creek State Park, where the set was re-created for fans' enjoyment in 2008.
'It's thrilling to be honored in this way,' Swit told The Times that year. 'I think if I had to sum it up, what we're most proud of is that we made everybody come together. And I think this will also bring people together.'
Swit was nominated for five Emmys for her Hot Lips role and won for supporting actress in a comedy, variety or music series in 1980 and 1982. She garnered four Golden Globe nominations for her work on 'M*A*S*H,' in the lead and supporting actress categories, but did not win.
She was given a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame in 1989, near what is now the home of Amoeba Music.
An animal lover, Swit set up the SwitHeart Animal Alliance to prevent cruelty and end animal suffering. The alliance worked with numerous nonprofit organizations and programs to protect, rescue, train and care for animals and preserve their habitat, while raising public awareness about issues that concern domestic, farm, exotic, wild and native animals.
She created an art book, 'SwitHeart: The Watercolour Artistry & Animal Activism of Loretta Swit,' which includes 65 of her full-color paintings and drawings and 22 of her photographs. Proceeds went to animal causes, and the 2016 Betty White Award from the group Actors and Others for Animals was but one of the many honors she received for her philanthropic work.
Former freelance writer T.L. Stanley contributed to this report.
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‘The Studio' guide to L.A.: Where your favorite characters live, eat, shop, exercise and more

Los Angeles Times

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‘The Studio' guide to L.A.: Where your favorite characters live, eat, shop, exercise and more

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Can Blue Note become the new hot spot for L.A. jazz?
Can Blue Note become the new hot spot for L.A. jazz?

Los Angeles Times

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Can Blue Note become the new hot spot for L.A. jazz?

Danny Bensusan opened the Blue Note in Greenwich Village in 1981 and helped it quickly became home to some of the biggest names in jazz. Dizzy Gillespie, Sarah Vaughan, Oscar Peterson and Lionel Hampton are just some of the iconic acts who played there, and Chick Corea, Peterson, Keith Jarrett and James Carter recorded live records there. Now, 44 years later, Danny's son Steven is bringing the Blue Note to Hollywood. The venue, which has locations in Waikiki, Milan, Napa, Tokyo and more, will finally open its doors Thursday, with Blue Note staple and ambassador Robert Glasper doing two sets each Thursday and Friday. 'It's an important market for us,' Steven Bensusan tells The Times. 'A lot of the industry is based there. It's a major city and we want to establish ourselves there as the West Coast hub.' Like everything in L.A. this chaotic year, the club's journey has been tumultuous. Originally scheduled to open in late March, the Blue Note's premiere was delayed because of construction delays following the wildfires in January. 'We were very sensitive to the situation,' Bensusan says. 'We also didn't want to rush at that point, as well. So, it was delayed — construction delays, permitting delays, everything like that. But we didn't want to rush to get it open.' The original March 26 date was so locked in that the club's director of programming and talent buyer, Alex Kurland, had booked almost the whole year out from that date. So, when everything was pushed back by more than four months, Kurland had to rebook the entire schedule. 'It's a balance and it's a puzzle. It's a combination of rebooking, reorganizing when acts are available and what makes sense for acts, Kurland says. 'There isn't one situation or scenario that results from how everything unfolds. Some acts we definitely did lose for sure because they needed to play their market play or they just couldn't make it to the West Coast. Luckily, everyone was very understanding and accommodating.' The one thing they did know was that whenever the venue was ready for opening night, the headliner would be longtime Blue Note favorite Robert Glasper. 'We were not going to open the club without Glasper being the opening talent. We have a very deep relationship and alignment with him, and he wanted to open it,' Kurland says. 'It's a partnership and we're all in it together.' Glasper has become synonymous with Blue Note through his annual October residency in New York City, known as 'Robtober,' and curating the Blue Note Jazz Festival Napa at the end of August. While Glasper takes over the New York City location once a year, everyone involved is adamant that the Blue Note Los Angeles will very much reflect L.A. in every way and be a completely distinct entity. 'L.A. culture itself, the artists that are from L.A. and represent L.A. and the soul of L.A., but that's going to change the vibe of the Blue Note anyway, because we're definitely going to incorporate a lot of that,' Glasper, the cultural ambassador and a partner in the L.A. location, says. 'We want L.A. to feel like it's L.A.'s Blue Note, not like Blue Note New York moved to L.A. We're trying to give L.A. its own voice through the Blue Note.' According to Kurland, that plan is already in effect and will continue to very much be reflected in the booking. 'There are acts that are within the lineup that have not played at a Blue Note previously, and that's really important that we're engaging talent and artists that are having their debut moments within a Blue Note just because L.A. is going to be a very fresh and progressive approach to booking and programming,' he says. 'So not just booking acts that we have pre-existing history with but really focusing on talent that we are building new relationships with and talent that are having their initial new experiences in the Blue Note, maybe acts that you typically see playing in much bigger venues, acts like Charlie Puth, acts like Ben Folds.' A huge part of the Blue Note aesthetic is making unique moments through unique collaborations or unannounced guests, like Stevie Wonder or John Mayer jumping onstage after sitting in the audience. Both Glasper and Kurland are advocating heavily for and expect a lot of those moments with L.A. musicians. 'Collaboration is a huge goal every single day always from a programming standpoint and thinking about the booking more as moments rather than just the transaction of filling dates on the calendar,' Kurland says. 'Really being particular about how to maximize really special bookings that that are not just on tour and not just available, but that are curated and programmed.' Glasper has his dream jam. 'I would love for Stevie Wonder to come in there and just do music he wants to do that's not even his. Everybody gets to see Stevie do Stevie, but I know Stevie would love to just do music he appreciates including jazz music, he can go in there and just do a piano trio night. That's my number one in my mind. Number two is having Stevie join Herbie [Hancock] together.' Bensusan points out the L.A. menu will also differ, with many more vegan options than the New York location, and distinctly L.A. options such as Peruvian scallops and a crispy rice tuna taco. However, the greatest difference, Bensusan points out, is the L.A. location will be the first with two rooms, an A-room for the headliners, and a B-room for developing artists and surprise jams, podcasts, whatever. 'I'm also looking forward to really opening our first club with that second room that we're calling the B side, which we'll be able to experiment with and book younger artists that maybe can't draw in the bigger room and then help develop them so that they can, and giving them the exposure within our marketing and our advertising efforts and help give them more gigs,' Bensusan says. 'That room will serve multiple purposes. Yes, it will be an opportunity to put on and place developing acts that are not big enough necessarily to play the Blue Note, but that can grow to play the Blue Note, or acts that are engaging in underplays,' Kurland adds. 'Also thinking about programming that room next to the Blue Note, and maybe there's a holistic connection between the act playing in the Blue Note. For example, maybe Robert's playing in the Blue Note room, and Battlecat is DJing in the B side. We're thinking intentionally about how to elevate the vibe and elevate the curating. It's connected.' For Glasper, having the two rooms is key for his goal as cultural ambassador — making the Blue Note the spot in L.A. for musicians. 'L.A. is a big a— ocean of talent and legends. It just started lacking a place for everybody to let their creativity out. And I want Blue Note to be that place,' he says. 'I want to start a jam session for a certain night there. So, everybody knows nightly you can go here because they used to have that in L.A. You knew on Tuesday night, you can go to this place or Monday nights you go to that place for jamming, It's going to be an opportunity for so many people, to have a place to be and enjoy all the things.' As much as Bensusan, Glasper and Kurland agree on Blue Note L.A. being a multi-faceted facility, Bensusan's ultimate goal at the end of the day is no different than his dad's 44 years ago in New York. 'We want to create the mecca for jazz in L.A.,' he says proudly.

‘Somebody Somewhere' showed Joel's ‘naked and real' truth — and Jeff Hiller's too
‘Somebody Somewhere' showed Joel's ‘naked and real' truth — and Jeff Hiller's too

Los Angeles Times

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‘Somebody Somewhere' showed Joel's ‘naked and real' truth — and Jeff Hiller's too

'I know it's a cliche to say I wasn't expecting it, but I was not expecting it,' says Jeff Hiller of his surprise Emmy nomination for his supporting role in the HBO comedy 'Somebody Somewhere.' One could forgive Hiller's low expectations. Starring Bridget Everett as Sam, a single, middle-aged woman navigating small-town life in Kansas alongside her best friend, Joel (Hiller), the critical darling was named one of the AFI's best TV shows of the year in 2023 and won a Peabody in 2024, yet failed to earn attention from the Television Academy. And in a crowded field of comic competitors — Emmy winners 'Abbott Elementary,' 'The Bear' and 'Hacks,' plus the celeb-stuffed 'Only Murders in the Building' and 'The Studio' — it seemed unlikely for the small-town dramedy to break through in its final year. 'No one had said, 'I bet it's gonna happen,'' says Hiller. Which is why Hiller wasn't tuned into the Emmy noms announcement last month, and even ignored the call from his manager that morning. 'I was on the phone with my sister, and I was like, 'They'll call back.'' says Hiller. When that conversation was interrupted by another call, this time from his agent, Hiller assumed that he was in trouble. 'I [was about to] shoot a movie, and I thought, 'Oh, crap. Am I supposed to be in Boston right now?'' As for how he clinched the nom, Hiller's best guess is the timely publication of his comic memoir, 'Actress of a Certain Age: My Twenty-Year Trail to Overnight Success,' which hit bookstores just two days before Emmy voting opened in June. Among his cohort of Emmy-nominated performers, the rest of Hiller's day may have been the most humble of them all: 'I hung up with my agent, went to the airport to go to Boston and spent the night alone in a Residence Inn.' But there's something perfectly thematic about a no-frills Emmy nom celebration, particularly for the actor playing 'Somebody Somewhere's' sweet and lovable sidekick Joel. A local of Manhattan, Kan. — where Everett's Sam returns following the death of her sister and, over time, builds a chosen family of misfits and weirdos — Joel is the best friend everyone would want, someone who is supportive to a fault and often pushes Sam to find joy in the everyday. Just as the show introduces Joel and Sam in the pilot, Hiller was a fan of Everett's before they began their collaboration. Both actors moved to New York and established their own chosen families around performance: Everett in the downtown cabaret scene, centered on Joe's Pub at the Public Theater; Hiller at Upright Citizens Brigade, where he taught and performed improv. While Everett made a name for herself with her bawdy shows blending rock ballads and blue humor, Hiller appeared on and off-Broadway and steadily won bit parts in film and TV, often playing gay waiters, assistants and salesmen. Their worlds in New York naturally overlapped, and it was Everett who reached out to Hiller about an audition for Joel's character in 2019. Compared to the smaller roles that populate Hiller's IMDb page, Joel — one of the more nuanced queer characters on television in recent years — is more finespun. Having grown up in a Lutheran family in San Antonio, Hiller recognized a lot of himself in a 40-something gay man who attends church, even if a queer Christian may seem unfamiliar to metropolitan viewers on either coast. 'I know people in Texas who are gay and who go to church every week, and that's where they found their community — that's the place that is nice to them,' he says. 'I know this guy so well. I would have been this guy if I hadn't moved to New York.' Hiller commends series creators Hannah Bos and Paul Thureen (who, alongside Everett, earned an Emmy nomination this year as writers of the series finale) for Joel's complexity and for building a world in which its marginalized characters aren't constantly burdened by what makes them different. 'I'm sure there are small-minded people in Manhattan, but our show just wasn't focused on that part,' he says. 'That takes a lot of work in the storytelling for a mainstream audience. I kind of [worried] we'd never get picked up.' But Joel is much more than 'a gay guy who goes to church,' as evident in his Season 3 arc, which sees him settling into a relationship with the equally sweet, if more introverted, Brad (played by Tim Bagley). Entering his first real relationship at middle age is bittersweet for Joel, who always imagined achieving the typical milestones — including having kids. 'He's grateful for the life he's had, but he's also mourning the things he dreamed of having that he can no longer have,' explains Hiller. 'I found that to be true to me in my life. It's scarier to portray things that are so naked and real, obvious and truthful.' Joel also has a cathartic reunion with a childhood bully, spun from conversations in which Bos and Thureen asked Hiller what he would want to hear from his own past tormentors. 'That's for me and my therapist to discuss,' he jokes. While he's still processing his Emmy nom and planning for the HBO after-party ('Do they let you in even if you don't win?'), he treasures the experience of making 'Somebody Somewhere' as its own reward. 'If I could play a role like that for six weeks once a year, for the rest of my life? I'd be more than fulfilled.'

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