'The most beautiful rock star in history'
She also called Harry 'the most beautiful rock star in history,' before having second thoughts.
'Actually, Debbie, you've got to share it with Kurt,' she said, a nod to Nirvana's late frontman and her own husband.
'Kurt and Debbie. Can you really honestly think of anybody in rock and roll history …?' Love began. And then found out she could. 'Stevie!' (I'm presuming Stevie Nicks, not Little Stevie, though it could be Stevie Wonder, I suppose.)
'OK,' she concluded, 'Stevie, Debbie, Kurt.'
It's a decent shout, you have to say.
But back to the politics. After the horror show that was the last Tory government (a malign bunch of utter incompetents, and that's me being kind) I'm pulling for Sir Keir, but, let's face it, he's not making it easy.
To be fair he didn't have his troubles to seek. The economy is a mess, the world's at war. There are easier paper rounds.
And he has been under the cosh from the get-go. The left pilloried him for not being Corbyn. The right - and most of the media are in this camp - didn't like him because, well, he wasn't Tory. And because he wasn't their favourite current thing in politics; what we might call the 'charismatic a***ehole' as in Farage and Trump.
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But even so, he's hardly knocking it out of the park, is he? As Starmer's Stormy Year (Radio 4, Monday) reminded us, the last year has been one of U-turns, rebellions (currently ongoing), alienating your core voters, and shockingly poor public messaging.
The programme saw the BBC's chief political correspondent Henry Zeffman talk to some in the Starmer government, union leaders, civil servants and Moneybox's Martin Lewis to compile a report card on the Prime Minister's first year in office.
'Must do better,' was the main takeaway. In the plus column were the Prime Minister's authoritative handling of the Southport riots just weeks after coming into power, as well as his deft handling of President Trump and his support for Ukraine.
As for negatives, well, where do you start? The winter fuel debacle, the sacking of Sue Gray, the ongoing arguments over benefit cuts … The list goes on. As the Unite union's Sharon Graham pointed out, people voting for a Labour government were looking for change not managerialism.
That change has been slow in coming. Or maybe it's just not getting reported. There was a progressive story to tell here: higher taxes to fund public services, workers' rights, renters' reform, clean energy investment. 'This is Starmerite social democracy,' Zeffman suggested.
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But it wasn't something he seemed that keen to explore himself. Instead, the programme cut to Rain Newton-Smith, the director of the CBI, to have a pop at it.
Ah well. Still, this was a solid recounting of the first year of this Labour government; inevitably a bit Westminster bubbly and as much about personality as policy. But I can think of a few bigger BBC names who would have made a worse job of it.
So far Starmer's report card is a bit C+. Maybe B minus on a good day. Not great, but then again not Truss levels of awfulness. That said, any government of whatever salt has to be a bit more ambitious than just being better than Liz Truss.
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Over on Radio 3 Erik Satie was composer of the week. On Sunday Feature, music journalist Jude Rogers explored Satie's influence on 1970s and 1980s pop - from Kate Bush to Ultravox and Gary Numan - and his pioneering role in ambient music, via his furniture music.
Satie's work is familiar to all of us - even if you didn't realise it - through their use in cinema and advertising. His almost evanescent music is now everywhere.
This was a lovely documentary full of gorgeous minimalist music from Satie and others. It felt like sinking into a warm bath of sound.
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But there was a bit of gravitas in there too. At one point Numan summed up the challenge that faced all creative people: 'The problem is you create something that becomes popular and then the world expects you to just stop then and just carry on regurgitating that.
'If you think about it, that's the very opposite of what creative people want to do. They want to create another thing and they hope it's as good or as successful as that one. But in a way it doesn't really matter as you are moving forward. You are forever trying to move forward.'
A lesson for Sir Keir perhaps?
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