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‘There might be some issues' – Championship club could be forced to leave beloved 27,111-seater stadium for third time

‘There might be some issues' – Championship club could be forced to leave beloved 27,111-seater stadium for third time

The Irish Sun11 hours ago

CHARLTON ATHLETIC managing director Jim Rodwell has not ruled out the club leaving The Valley.
The Addicks are back in the Championship for the first time since 2020 next season.
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Nathan Jones led Charlton back to the Championship last season
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The club remain uncertain on the future of their home at The Valley
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But Charlton continue to be dogged by questions
The Valley is under the control of the club's former owner Roland Duchatelet.
He sold the club six years ago but retained ownership of the 27,111-seat stadium and the club's training ground.
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A 15-year lease was signed by the club in 2021, with 11 years remaining before it expires.
The EFL require clubs to have at least ten years left on a stadium lease.
Charlton director Rodwell admits talks are ongoing with Duchatelet over an extension.
But he did not rule out the possibility that the club could eventually have to leave the site - home to the club for most of their 106-year existence.
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He told
"We've made no secret of the fact we would like to buy the stadium or enter into a longer term lease on the right terms.
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"Those conversations are ongoing. We have a considerable period of time left. I know fans like certainty and so do businessmen.
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'It's always a possibility [we will have to move]. I think the desire would be to stay at The Valley.
"It's a brilliant ground and great atmosphere. It's fit for purpose."
He added: "Our [lease] is getting down to [ten years], so there might be some issues there."
Charlton left The Valley between 1923 and 1924 for nearby Catford.
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They played at the now-demolished Mount Stadium, before a proposed merger with Catford Southend FC fell through.
Charlton left the Valley again in 1985 after the ground fell into disrepair and the club's debts spiralled.
They ground-shared with
Rodwell continued: "What is The Valley actually worth? It's worth a lot to Charlton but probably not a lot to a developer.
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"What else could you stick on there?
"I'm always a great believer that commercial reality would hit home.
"There's always a deal to be done there. Talks are ongoing. They have been conducted in the right spirit."

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'We let ourselves down a little' Cavan hero on opportunities missed with Kerry
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  • Irish Daily Mirror

'We let ourselves down a little' Cavan hero on opportunities missed with Kerry

With the week that's in it, it was apt that the RTE series, Hell For Leather - The Story of Gaelic Football, landed on the 1947 All-Ireland final last Monday night. It recalled how the novel idea of staging the GAA's showpiece event in New York, to mark the centenary of the worst year of the great famine, came from the Clare county convention. The motion was resisted by the GAA's top brass before it came to Congress but Clare delegate Canon Michael Hamilton spoke passionately. 'They'll never see their homeland again,' he said of the Irish that had been scattered to America, 'and are you going to deny them this bit of Ireland?' The motion passed. Kerry and Cavan qualified for the final at the Polo Grounds some months later, with Cavan scoring their greatest victory in the most unique All-Ireland final of all. 'Cavan glorious and happy in victory,' surmised Micheál O'Hehir on the highlights reel as the players celebrated. 'The greatest chapter in Irish sporting history came to an end.' 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Dara Ó Cinnéide: ‘I'm getting sick of this #WeAreKerry stuff. What does it actually mean anymore?'
Dara Ó Cinnéide: ‘I'm getting sick of this #WeAreKerry stuff. What does it actually mean anymore?'

Irish Times

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Dara Ó Cinnéide: ‘I'm getting sick of this #WeAreKerry stuff. What does it actually mean anymore?'

Dara Ó Cinnéide was in Tullamore last weekend, watching the Kerry game alongside an old college friend from Meath . On the way up the road, there was campfire gossip going around that 'a significant Kerry player' wouldn't be togging out. When he saw Seán O'Shea walking around in his tracksuit during the warm-up, the low sludge of unease he'd been feeling for much of the week started to properly crystallise. 'We're in a bit of bother here,' he told his friend, who did what all right-thinking friends would have done and dismissed him immediately. Life is far too short to be listening to Kerrymen poor-mouthing in the 15 minutes before a championship match, especially if you're from a county that has beaten them just once in the past 70 years. 'After about 10 minutes,' Ó Cinnéide says, 'my mate from Simonstown turned to me and said, 'F**k it, I should have listened to you and put a few bob on this, we'd have paid for the weekend'. 'You could see from the start that Kerry weren't working hard enough. They weren't earning the right to play the ball around. They were trying to flick the ball up to themselves on a wet day and all this carry-on. If I'm a Meath player on the pitch at that moment, I'm going, 'These lads aren't great, are they?'' READ MORE They certainly weren't last Saturday . The one upside for the Kerry players who got rinsed by Meath in Tullamore is that the game wasn't televised in full anywhere. However bad Kerry people imagine it might have been, it was worse when you watched it back. The ease with which Meath stretched away in the 15 minutes before half-time was pretty astonishing to watch. It would be one thing if Meath had come up with a flurry of intricate set plays to bamboozle them but the reality was far more prosaic. They routed Shane Ryan's kick-outs, annihilated Kerry on breaking ball. Rudimentary stuff. With 20 minutes gone, Kerry led 0-7 to 0-5. Between there and half-time, Ryan had 10 kick-outs. He went long seven times and Kerry lost every one of them. On two of the three occasions he went short, Kerry turned the ball over almost immediately. Nine of those 10 Kerry kick-outs ended in a Meath player taking a shot at the posts, leading to eight points. Meath's dominance of the Kerry kick-out was so total that when the 10th one finally bought Kerry some breathing space – Joe O'Connor won a brave free that Mike Breen immediately moved on to Dylan Geaney – it led to their first possession in the Meath half of the pitch in 13 minutes of football. Even if there's an element of potluck at the kick-out under the new rules, a team that allows itself to get penned in for 13 minutes is miles off being a contender. 'There were probably a few doubts about where we were at anyway,' says Darran O'Sullivan. 'I've been in games like that where you really don't perform. You don't turn up and you find out the hard way that if you're not committed, which is the only word I can say really, you're going to get found out. 'They were missing a lot of big players, which isn't an excuse. But if you look at who they are – Paudie [Clifford] and Seánie for example – footballers though they are, they love the rough stuff as well. They're not going to back down from any fella. They're not going to shy away from any physicality. Paudie Clifford of Kerry against Cork. Photograph: Bryan Keane/Inpho 'We all know we have great footballers. But you've to be more than that. You have to have the bit of nastiness to you. You have to have the willingness to get hit and give a few hits and get dirty.' And so, in a week like this, the walls come tumbling down all around the county. The sun is out, the schools are finishing up, the tourists are landing daily. 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We can't have documentaries on the TV at the moment and fellas going on about the history of Kerry football being such-and-such and what it all means. Well, if it does mean so much more down here, let's see it. Let's see it in Killarney on Saturday. 'I'm getting sick of this #WeAreKerry stuff. What does it actually mean any more? There's a reason we won all the All-Irelands we won – it's because there's an anger there. It's because there's hurt there when you lose. It's because the prestige of the tribe is damaged by a defeat and because it pisses you off on a Monday morning if you've lost on the weekend. 'And that's just me, an ex-player and supporter. I stayed above in Tullamore on Saturday night and drank porter and was just fed up and in bad form after it. I'm just wondering does it hurt any more? I'm sure the players are hurting. I'm sure they are.' Amid all the noise, it should be pointed out that Kerry are still bookies' favourites for the All-Ireland , alongside Armagh. 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We made the point inside – we've been there before and Kerry haven't. They probably weren't as battle-hardened as we were.' Dara Ó Cinnéide playing for Kerry in 2000. Photograph: Tom Honan/Inpho Kerry have had to dig deeper this year than was the case in 2024 – their average margin of victory for the five games before they met Armagh last summer was over 10 points. This time around, Cork have run them to extra-time and they've lost to Meath. Cavan are being dismissed by everybody but they finished level on points with both those teams in Division Two this year. They will at least believe they can give Kerry a rattle. But there's a sweet spot between being battle-hardened and battle-weary. If Kerry get past Cavan and find themselves landing into Croke Park next weekend having had to rush the likes of Clifford, O'Shea, Paul Geaney and Diarmuid O'Connor back from injury, what kind of shape can they expect to be in? They couldn't last the pace against Armagh with everyone fully-fit and available. What chance would they have as a weakened version of that side in 2025? 'I do think Kerry will be a different proposition against Cavan,' says O'Sullivan. 'I think Paudie will be back, Seánie will be back, I think Paul will be back. I think they'll be more than strong enough for Cavan. But it's a case then of how strong will lads be for Armagh. Because that's what the real test will be.' Can they turn it around? Yes, obviously. This is Kerry, when all comes to all. They've won All-Irelands from stickier spots than this. In 2009, Sligo missed a penalty three minutes from time that would have put them out of the championship. A week later, they were level with Antrim with 10 minutes to go and just about got out the gap. On the bus home that day, the blood got up as soon as word came through that they had drawn the Dubs in the quarter-final and it turned their whole season around. 'Anger can be a very powerful force,' says Ó Cinnéide. 'And you can't manufacture it. It's either there or it's not. A lot depends now on who's back and how they come back. 'The attitude needs to be so much better. Just get nasty, like. I was always criticised for being a nice footballer but there were times when you had to get nasty and you wouldn't be found wanting. That's what people need to see. 'Go back to Tullamore in '09 against Antrim. There was a genuine rallying that day from the Kerry supporters. I was in the stands that day and you could feel it, as if people were saying, 'Jesus, this team might be dying but we're going to support them'. And they did. 'Kerry supporters can be very good like that but the players need to feel that this weekend. They need to feel the anger but also feel the support. Last Saturday, all they heard when they came out on to the pitch was polite support. It wasn't good enough.' Things need to change, quickly, on and off the pitch. Otherwise, they could be knocked out of the championship in June for the first time since 1994. What will they talk about then? Nobody in Kerry wants to spend the rest of the summer finding out.

‘There might be some issues' – Championship club could be forced to leave beloved 27,111-seater stadium for third time
‘There might be some issues' – Championship club could be forced to leave beloved 27,111-seater stadium for third time

The Irish Sun

time11 hours ago

  • The Irish Sun

‘There might be some issues' – Championship club could be forced to leave beloved 27,111-seater stadium for third time

CHARLTON ATHLETIC managing director Jim Rodwell has not ruled out the club leaving The Valley. The Addicks are back in the Championship for the first time since 2020 next season. Advertisement 2 Nathan Jones led Charlton back to the Championship last season Credit: PA 2 The club remain uncertain on the future of their home at The Valley Credit: PA But Charlton continue to be dogged by questions The Valley is under the control of the club's former owner Roland Duchatelet. He sold the club six years ago but retained ownership of the 27,111-seat stadium and the club's training ground. Advertisement READ MORE ON FOOTBALL A 15-year lease was signed by the club in 2021, with 11 years remaining before it expires. The EFL require clubs to have at least ten years left on a stadium lease. Charlton director Rodwell admits talks are ongoing with Duchatelet over an extension. But he did not rule out the possibility that the club could eventually have to leave the site - home to the club for most of their 106-year existence. Advertisement Most read in Football BEST ONLINE CASINOS - TOP SITES IN THE UK He told "We've made no secret of the fact we would like to buy the stadium or enter into a longer term lease on the right terms. EFL club release 'gorgeous work of art' kit and even rival fans want to buy it "Those conversations are ongoing. We have a considerable period of time left. I know fans like certainty and so do businessmen. Advertisement 'It's always a possibility [we will have to move]. I think the desire would be to stay at The Valley. "It's a brilliant ground and great atmosphere. It's fit for purpose." He added: "Our [lease] is getting down to [ten years], so there might be some issues there." Charlton left The Valley between 1923 and 1924 for nearby Catford. Advertisement They played at the now-demolished Mount Stadium, before a proposed merger with Catford Southend FC fell through. Charlton left the Valley again in 1985 after the ground fell into disrepair and the club's debts spiralled. They ground-shared with Rodwell continued: "What is The Valley actually worth? It's worth a lot to Charlton but probably not a lot to a developer. Advertisement "What else could you stick on there? "I'm always a great believer that commercial reality would hit home. "There's always a deal to be done there. Talks are ongoing. They have been conducted in the right spirit."

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