Trump administration tells immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela they have to leave
MIAMI — The Department of Homeland Security said Thursday that it has begun notifying hundreds of thousands of Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans that their temporary permission to live and work in the United States has been revoked and that they should leave the country.
The termination notices are being sent by email to people who entered the country under the humanitarian parole program for the four countries, officials said.
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The 'Mexican Beverly Hills' reels from Trump immigration raids, forcing some to carry passports
With its stately homes and bustling business districts, Downey has long been known to some as the 'Mexican Beverly Hills.' But the Southeast L.A. County city of more than 110,000 people has been roiled this week by Trump immigration raids in Southern California, sparking both fear and outrage. Downey Councilman Mario Trujillo said the raids are 'creating a culture of fear' that's prompting people, even with documents, to stay home out of concern they could be targeted by federal agents simply for being Latino. The downtown Downey area, which had already been hurting amid a tenuous economy, is now a ghost town, Trujillo said. While he understands that immigration agents have a job to do, Trujillo questions the necessity of grabbing workers trying to support their families and people just trying to go about their daily lives. Read more: Arellano: Sen. Alex Padilla's crime? Being Mexican in MAGA America 'We're supposed to be made to feel safe by this agency because they're removing bad people,' he said. 'That's what they're supposed to be doing." On Wednesday, masked federal agents detained at least 12 people from businesses in Downey, but community members were able to discourage them from taking one man without proper documents. Downey has long been a landing spot for upwardly mobile Latinos, who make up 75% of the population. The median income is $97,000, above the California average. The Times reported in December that support for Donald Trump increased during the last election. While Democrats still dominated, The Times found Trump gained 18.8 percentage points in November compared with the 2020 presidential election. Paula Mejia, a Downey resident in her 50s who immigrated from Mexico to the U.S. more than 45 years ago, said that fewer people have been going to restaurants and to other businesses in Downey ever since the ICE raids began. "I've been scared and I have to carry my passport," she said. "I have never done before and we are out of words. Even my kids, they were born here. Now, they're carrying their passports." Mejia, who was wearing a green jacket with a "Mexico" badge sewn to the front Thursday afternoon, said she's a U.S. citizen and has been disappointed by the way Mexicans have been treated under the Trump administration. "They just look at our colors, our nationalities, and they're just profiling people," she said. "Colombians, Peruvians, Ecuadorians. They're just calling them Mexicans. They're denigrating us and want to use the term 'Mexicans' and we're not backing up. We work very hard in this country and for them to be treating us like criminals, we're not criminals. We're hardworking people." In a video of the encounter, the unidentified man can be seen sitting on the ground surrounded by masked agents who had chased him down. The man spotted Immigration and Customs Enforcement at his job and rode away on his bicycle, but one of the masked men grabbed his tire, causing him to fall, ABC7 reported. Read more: How the flags of Mexico, El Salvador and Guatemala symbolize defiance against Trump's L.A. raids Melyssa Rivas recorded community members peppering federal agents with questions about why they were chasing the man. It's unclear what prompted the agents to leave the scene. 'It looked like a full-on kidnapping scene out of a movie; it was scary,' Rivas told the outlet. Jose, 26, who declined to provide his last name because of safety concerns, is the son of the owner of Galaxy Auto Detail in Downey, which was targeted by federal agents on Wednesday. Two agents arrived shortly after 9 a.m. and attempted to quickly surround an employee in an apparent attempt to keep him from running away. But the worker saw what was happening and sprinted toward nearby train tracks. He was later detained along with another man. Only one of the individuals was undocumented, Jose told The Times. Jose said he tried to ask the agents if they had a warrant but was told he was going to be arrested for interfering if he kept asking questions. With only five workers remaining, the car wash was closed on Thursday and Jose said he doesn't know when it'll reopen. Jose's mother, an immigrant from Mexico, has owned the car wash for 12 years. She and her son said they believe federal agents are targeting businesses owned by Mexicans. 'I have my citizenship,' said Jose, who was born in the U.S. 'I feel unsafe, even if I have papers. I just saw them targeting brown people.' 'We're starting to feel that we're the only race that's being targeted because it's easy pickings because of the color of our skin,' Trujillo said. 'That's what it's starting to feel like — racial profiling.' Downey Memorial Church, the site of where a group of armed men wearing face coverings detained and drove off with a Latino man on Wednesday, was completely empty Thursday afternoon. All of the doors were locked and lights shut off. Estevan Phillipy, 22, works at the Around the World Learning Center, a preschool right next to the church. Phillipy is a teacher and was with the kids when the man was detained Wednesday, but his father, who owns the preschool, saw the entire incident unfold. 'All of a sudden, a bunch of vans and cars pulled up into the parking lot, and they just jumped on him,' he said. 'Some people from the church tried to stop it or were saying stuff, but the guy got detained and taken away.' Phillipy is half white, half Mexican and was born in the U.S., but said his Mexican relatives have been afraid to go outside since the raids began. 'My family's scared right now,' he said. 'We are all documented, but we just look the part. I know there's a lot of racial profiling going on.' Alex Cruz, a 43-year-old Downey resident who has worked at Papa John Car Wash for the past year, said the raids have been so unsettling that many have stopped coming to work. Cruz said the seven or eight undocumented workers who were employed at the car wash stopped showing up two weeks ago. 'Everybody is intimidated,' he said. 'Everybody is afraid to get out of their house. Everybody is afraid to go to work.' Cruz, the son of an undocumented immigrant from El Salvador who came to the U.S. in the 1970s, said he's angered by the federal government's portrayal that anyone without documents living in the United States is a criminal. 'That's how they're categorizing every Hispanic or Latino,' he said. 'The president should have a little more humanity. If it wasn't for immigrants washing their dishes, nobody would do it.' Read more: All of L.A. is not a 'war zone.' 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Los Angeles Times
26 minutes ago
- Los Angeles Times
A letter demanding data on Cuban medical missions roils the Caribbean and the Americas
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico — An unusual request from the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights about Cuban medical brigades that operate worldwide and provide much needed help has roiled countries in the Caribbean and the Americas. In a letter obtained by the Associated Press, the commission asks members of the Organization of American States, OAS, for details including whether they have an agreement with Cuba for medical missions, whether those workers have labor and union rights and information about any labor complaints. 'This was an unprecedented move,' said Francesca Emanuele, senior international policy associate at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington. 'It's deeply troubling.' Cuba has more than 22,000 doctors working in more than 50 countries, including in the Caribbean and the Americas, according to its government. A breakdown for the region was not available, but many impoverished nations in the Caribbean rely heavily on those medical professionals. The commission, an independent body of the OAS, which is heavily funded by the U.S., said it plans to analyze the data collected as well as offer recommendations 'given the persistence of reports of rights violations.' A spokesperson for the commission declined comment, saying the letter is private. The letter was sent after U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced visa restrictions in late February for Cuban or foreign government officials accused of involvement in Cuba's medical missions, which he called 'forced labor.' 'The timing is really suspicious,' Emanuele said, noting that the information requested 'falls squarely' within the member states' sovereign decision-making. 'The role of this organization should not be distorted.' In June, the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump slapped several unidentified officials from Central America with visa restrictions. Silence has prevailed since the human rights commission issued its May 24 letter giving OAS member states 30 days to respond. 'I'm awaiting a regional approach,' said Ralph Gonsalves, prime minister of St. Vincent and the Grenadines. He said in a phone interview that he would raise the issue next week during a meeting of the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States as chairman. 'There are no human rights issues involved here,' he said, noting that St. Vincent is party to several international and labor conventions. 'They have not been breached and will not be breached.' Gonsalves said Cuban doctors run the sole hemodialysis center in St. Vincent that provides free care to 64 patients at a rate of $5 million a year. 'Without the Cubans, that dialysis center will close,' he said. 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'There is no doubt that that desperate campaign to block Cuban cooperation has two clear objectives: to close off any avenue of income for the country, even in an activity as noble and necessary to other nations as healthcare services,' he said. 'The other reason is political and ideological: they want to sweep Cuba away as an example. And they resort to methods as immoral as threatening any foreign official involved in that activity,' he added. Rubio has defended visa restrictions, saying they promote accountability. Coto writes for the Associated Press. AP reporters Bert Wilkinson in Georgetown, Guyana, and Andrea Rodríguez in Havana contributed to this report.
WIRED
35 minutes ago
- WIRED
The Chatbot Disinfo Inflaming the LA Protests
Jun 13, 2025 1:04 PM On this episode of Uncanny Valley , our senior politics editor discusses the spread of disinformation online following the onset of the Los Angeles protests. Flames engulf an autonomous Waymo vehicle during an anti-ICE protest in downtown Los Angeles, California, on June 8, 2025. Photo-Illustration: WIRED Staff; Photograph: Getty Images In recent days, Los Angeles residents have taken to the streets to protest the Trump administration's immigration policies and the increasingly frequent ICE raids. WIRED's senior politics editor Leah Feiger joins Zoë Schiffer, director of business and industry, to discuss the related flood of information on social media, and how AI chatbots like Grok and ChatGPT are delivering incorrect and at times, inflammatory answers. Mentioned in today's episode: AI Chatbots Are Making LA Protest Disinformation Worse by David Gilbert I Joined Every Class Action Lawsuit I Could Find, and So Can You by Andy Vasoyan Vibe Coding Is Coming for Engineering Jobs by Will Knight You can follow Zoë Schiffer on Bluesky at @zoeschiffer. Write to us at uncannyvalley@ How to Listen You can always listen to this week's podcast through the audio player on this page, but if you want to subscribe for free to get every episode, here's how: If you're on an iPhone or iPad, open the app called Podcasts, or just tap this link. You can also download an app like Overcast or Pocket Casts and search for 'uncanny valley.' We're on Spotify too. Transcript Note: This is an automated transcript, which may contain errors. Zoë Schiffer: This is Zoë. Before we start, I want to take a chance to remind you that we really want to hear from you. If you have a question about AI, politics or privacy that's been on your mind or a topic that you wish we talked about on the show, you can write to us at UncannyValley@ and if you listen to our episodes and enjoy them, please, please rate them on your podcast app of choice. It really honestly helps people find us. Welcome to WIRED's Uncanny Valley . I'm WIRED's Director of Business and Industry, Zoë Schiffer. Today on the show we're diving into how AI chatbots are fueling disinformation about the ongoing protests in Los Angeles. In recent days, LA residents have taken to the streets to protest the Trump administration's immigration policies and the increasingly frequent ICE raids. Social media is filled with information and footage about the protests and as people try and fact check what's actually going on. AI chatbots like Grok and ChatGPT are delivering incorrect and at times inflammatory answers. We'll discuss how this pattern has been unfolding and the consequences it can have on this political moment. I'm joined today by Leah Feiger, Senior Politics Editor at WIRED. Leah, welcome to the show. Leah Feiger: Thanks for having me, Zoë. Zoë Schiffer: Since last weekend, these massive protests have broken out in Los Angeles, so maybe let's just start there with a very high level of what has been going on. Leah Feiger: So last week, protests broke out in LA following ICE raids across the city, and at first it was smaller than people were claiming online. They were like, "There are hordes of people. They have taken over Los Angeles. This is wild." The truth of the matter was that these were in very specific areas and very much linked to ICE raids. But over the weekend things took a turn. Trump called in the National Guard, much to California Governor Gavin Newsom's chagrin, and there was a lot of back and forth online about states' rights versus federal rights versus how all of this was getting depicted. Lots of arrests, a lot of people really upset about this administration's pretty controversial immigration policies and some pretty dismaying imagery of ICE raids, not just in LA but throughout the country. So this has been boiling up for quite some time, and LA is really one of the first places that we're seeing this kind of response. Zoë Schiffer: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what really stood out to me from the beginning. It feels like kind of the first time that we've seen a groundswell of opposition to the Trump administration in a really full-throated way, in a way that I think that we expected to see at various points throughout this administration since January. But we really haven't so far, despite the fact that what they've been doing, what they've been saying is pretty unusual compared to how politics normally run. Leah Feiger: Absolutely. It's been kind of wild, and obviously there's been the Tesla Takedown protest movement and a couple of smaller protests that happened right when DOGE, Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, was kicking off. But you're totally right, there has not been anything in this specific way, and part of this is because it's just really incredibly personal. We're hearing stories from protesters about their family members being taken by ICE and not hearing from them again. There's been some amazing profiles across the country of people being shocked that their neighbors were taken off the streets. And again, the administration has been saying that they're going to be doing this the entire time. The big difference here is one, the response from people in the community in LA, and two, the fact that this is now really becoming a state's rights versus federal issue. Zoë Schiffer: And I feel like as this has been unfolding, even for you and me, we've been trying to figure out, like you said, what is really going on here? What is happening? And so one of the things that they've been doing, very 2025, is turning to chatbots, asking ChatGPT, asking Grok, What's happening here?" So what are some of those questions that people are trying to get answered and what is happening when they talk to chatbots about what's going on? Leah Feiger: Okay. A little bit of a controversial take to get us started. I think there's actually something incredibly pure about people seeing a photo or a video on social media and going, "Wait, is this real? Is this accurate?" That's actually kind of good. That to me is a good thing. Zoë Schiffer: Yeah, media literacy. Leah Feiger: Media literacy. We've been screaming about this for so long. But the devastating part of this is that these chatbots are just absolutely not up to the challenge. So can I give you an example here? Would that be okay? Zoë Schiffer: Please, please. Leah Feiger: Okay. So obviously there's been these people taking to the streets following these ICE raids and conservative posters have been totally flooding their feeds with inaccurate information. They've been posting old protest footage, clips from video games, movies, claiming that there's all of these agitators. It's been a lot. And as a result, people have been turning to AI chatbots like Grok, etcetera, included. So one of these specific cases is when the federal government sent in 2,000 National Guard troops, the SF Chronicle actually published a photo of these troops sleeping on the floor. These images were shared by Governor Newsom who was like, "You literally sent these troops to our state that we did not ask for that is fully inciting this situation, and now they actually have nowhere to sleep." Right after Newsom shared this, a ton of people were claiming on X, on Facebook that these images were fabrications, they were AI generated, or they were totally referencing a different event. And we're not just talking random posters. We're talking like Laura Loomer, queen of the conspiracists. Zoë Schiffer: Oh, wow. Leah Feiger: Yeah, exactly. Who has Trump's ear already. This became widespread. And so we were talking about people went to X's Grok and they were like, "Grok, what is this?" And what did Grok tell them? No, no. Grok said these were not actually images from the protest in la. They said they were from Afghanistan. Zoë Schiffer: Oh. Grok, no. Leah Feiger: They were like, "There's no credible support. This is misattribution. It was really bad. It was really, really bad. And then there was another situation where another couple of people were sharing these photos with ChatGPT and ChatGPT was also like, "Yep, this is Afghanistan. This isn't accurate, etcetera, etcetera. It's not great. Zoë Schiffer: I mean, don't get me started on this moment coming after a lot of these platforms have systematically dismantled their fact-checking programs, have decided to purposefully let through a lot more content. And then you add chatbots into the mix who, for all of their uses, and I do think they can be really useful, they are incredibly confident. When they do hallucinate, when they do mess up, they do it in a way that is very convincing. You will not see me out here defending Google Search. Absolute trash, nightmare, but it's a little more clear when that's going astray, when you're on some random, uncredible blog than when Grok tells you with complete confidence that you're seeing a photo of Afghanistan when you're not. Leah Feiger: It's really concerning. I mean, it's hallucinating. It's fully hallucinating, but is with the swagger of the drunkest frat boy that you've ever unfortunately been cornered at a party in your life. Zoë Schiffer: Nightmare. Nightmare. Yeah. Leah Feiger: They're like "No, no, no. I am sure. I have never been more sure in my life." Zoë Schiffer: Absolutely. I mean, okay, so why do chatbots give these incorrect answers with such confidence? Why aren't we seeing them just say, "Well, I don't know, so maybe you should check elsewhere. Here are a few credible places to go look for that answer and that information." Leah Feiger: Because they don't do that. They don't admit that they don't know, which is really wild to me. There's actually been a lot of studies about this, and in a recent study of AI search tools at the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, it found that chatbots were "generally bad at declining to answer questions they couldn't answer accurately. Offering instead incorrect or speculative answers." Really, really, really wild, especially when you consider the fact that there were so many articles during the election about, "Oh no, sorry, I'm ChatGPT and I can't weigh in on politics." You're like, well, you're weighing in on a lot now. Zoë Schiffer: Okay, I think we should pause there on that very horrifying note and we'll be right back. Welcome back to Uncanny Valley . I'm joined today by Leah Feiger, Senior Politics Editor at WIRED. Okay, so beyond just trying to verify information and footage, there've also been a bunch of reports about misleading AI-generated videos. There was a TikTok account that started uploading videos of an alleged National Guard soldier named Bob who'd been deployed to the LA protests, and you could see him saying false and inflammatory things like like the fact that the protesters are "chucking in balloons full of oil" and one of the videos had close to a million views. So I don't know, it feels like people have to become a little more adept at identifying this kind of fake footage, but it's hard in an environment that is inherently contextless like a post on X or a video on TikTok. Leah Feiger: Totally. And that TikTok live stream that you mentioned from Bob, that got debunked by BBC, they took it down. That's gone. But people in response are like, "Oh my gosh, this is the mainstream media. They're just shutting this down. Here's this information." So it's like when you find the thing, when you debunk the thing, it is still not enough. And I have to get back to the questions of media literacy, and that's perhaps why the AI chatbots getting it wrong are so upsetting to me, because people are actually, not everyone, but there is for sure some good faith folks going, "Is this real? Please, someone tell me if this is real." Zoë Schiffer: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they want to know. I know. My poor mom, she showed me a video the other day of a bunch of identical baby sloths looking at the camera. She was like, "Aren't these so cute? I found this on Facebook." And I was like, "Mom, those are not real sloths. We need to move on." She was crushed. Leah Feiger: I think though that AI animal slop is something that I may be okay with. Zoë Schiffer: The one form of AI that Leah likes is the AI animals. Leah Feiger: Nope, nope, I take it back. I dig it back on the record. Anyway, lower stakes, but arguably still contributing to the fact that what's real? I don't know. Who's to say? And the part of the thing is we've in some ways been here before. Five years ago was 2020 and the George Floyd protests across the country, and those were massive, and those were big, and we had a lot of issues of misinformation. We had a lot of people that were saying, "No, this is this. This is this video game. This is this." But five years later, the landscape has entirely changed. You still have the same bad actors, but it's now way more confusing. Trust in the media is down. Who do you turn to? Your trusty AI chatbot that has been integrated into every single social media app that you have personal access to. Zoë Schiffer: Which has also stripped away the other fact checking mechanisms. So here we are. Leah Feiger: Yes. Zoë Schiffer: We've seen this again and again. I mean, it's been interesting because Elon Musk famously laid off a large portion of the content moderation team at X, formerly Twitter. He also stripped away some of the content moderation rules that the company had spent years weighing and putting in place and debating internally. And as we've had big news events play out in real time, the kind of thing that Twitter was made to do, big earthquake, war, protests, whatever it is, these moments where previously you would've seen everyone flock to X to figure out what was going on, you still see people doing that same behavior, but the ability to ascertain what is actually going on on that platform has declined so much in recent years. There is good information, but it's intermixed with all of this horrible, bad, false information, and it's really hard to tell what is what. Leah Feiger: It is such a mess, and I am not an X poster anymore, but I do go on frequently to see what's up. It's trash. It's a combination right now in this very specific moment because Elon Musk is back and posting nonstop about space travel, so it's like we have the Elon Musk posts that are at the very top of my feed. We have the LA is burning, the fire is spreading to the rest of America, and then we have a couple of journalists still hanging out being like, "Read my story." Zoë Schiffer: Getting no traction? Yeah. Leah Feiger: And it's so sad. Yeah. Zoë Schiffer: Yeah, I mean, if you are someone who's trying to become an X-influencer, the kind of things that you need to share are inherently a little divisive, a little inflammatory, a little shocking. In some cases, they're getting paid by the platform to post this kind of content. I think that there are a few guardrails in place. If you have a community note on a post, you're not supposed to get money for it, but the incentive structure, like you mentioned, is set up to encourage people to post the craziest thing they can possibly get away with, and that's what we're seeing right now. Leah Feiger: Although I have to say for what? It's to line the pockets of these companies and these billionaire owners, but the actual posters, I'm sure that many people have made the grift, but there was this amazing New York Times article pretty recently about a very, very established- Zoë Schiffer: Right. Leah Feiger: Yeah, the poster on X. And he was like, "I'm a Republican and this is what I care about." He spends no vacations, no weekends. His entire day is on his computer and he's making something like, it's less than $60,000 a year, to which I'm just like, what is the incentive? Is the incentive that amazing hit of serotonin when you have a tweet go viral? That can't pay groceries? So the fact that Musk and Zuckerberg and all of these folks have managed to convince people that this is still the place to be with more incendiary, inaccurate content is arguably the greatest grift of all. Zoë Schiffer: Yeah. Incredible. Okay, we're going to take another quick break and when we come back, we'll share our recommendations for what to check out on this week. Welcome back to Uncanny Valley . I'm Zoë Schiffer, WIRED's Director of Business and Industry. I'm joined today by WIRED's Senior Politics Editor, Leah Feiger. Before we take off, Leah, tell our listeners what they absolutely need to read on Leah Feiger: I really, really stand by this recommendation. It's an article by Andy Vasoyan titled I Joined Every Class Action Lawsuit I Could Find, and So Can You. It's scratched every single itch of the person. I want to know, was I supposed to get that extra $5? I would like to know. And this writer did it. They did it. They are on the path. They talk to people who are involved in getting people their money, and this statistic will haunt me forever, which is that something like only 4% of these class action lawsuit claims, what comes out, are actually ever claimed by people that deserve it. Devastating. Zoë Schiffer: I know. I'm part of this. I do get these letters kind of a lot. What did I just get recently? Leah Feiger: Zoë, you are part of the problem. Get that $7, Zoë. Zoë Schiffer: I know. Leah Feiger: They can Venmo now. Zoë Schiffer: I did it once and it was like $2, and I was like, okay. I think my expectation was that I was going to get like $3,000 and I was like, that's not what occurred. Leah Feiger: Okay. No, this is a long haul. This is a game. Okay, what's yours? What's your favorite thing? Zoë Schiffer: My recommendation is a story we published this week by Will Knight, our AI reporter. It is about how vibe coding is coming for engineering jobs, and it is so, so good. We've been talking to engineers all across Silicon Valley hearing about what they're calling the engineering apocalypse that is coming because AI coding agents are getting so, so good. But actually when Will did the reporting, it's a lot more complicated. People said it was like giving a toddler a chainsaw and that you could come up with really, really great things. Yes, you can code an entire app and website just by talking to a chatbot, but you can also create really buggy code, code that has all sorts of security vulnerabilities. And people were like, "It totally breaks down as soon as you care about the functionality of the app that you're building." Leah Feiger: I'm in a cold sweat right now. Zoë Schiffer: I know. I know. I was like, this is all of Leah's nightmares combined in one. Leah Feiger: My actual horror story. Zoë Schiffer: Leah, we should make you vibe code something for business. Leah Feiger: Oh my God. I would sit there and start crying. Frankly, that would be good content. I am adding to the clickable hellscape that is online. This is good. This is full circle for us. Zoë Schiffer: You're a TikTok influencer now. You heard it here first. That is our show for today. We'll link to all the stories we spoke about in the show notes. Make sure to check out Thursday's episode of Uncanny Valley , which is all about tech companies and why they're betting big on AI agents. We're off next week and we'll be back the following. Adriana Tapia and Jordan Bell produced this episode. Amar Lal at Macro Sound mixed this episode. Jake Lummus was our New York studio engineer. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. Conde Nast Head of Global Audio is Chris Bannon. And Katie Drummond is WIRED's Global Editorial Director.
