logo
Proposal to bring back V10 engines set to be rejected

Proposal to bring back V10 engines set to be rejected

BBC News04-04-2025

Japanese Grand PrixVenue: Suzuka Dates: 4-6 April Race start: 06:00 BST on SundayCoverage: Live radio commentary of practice and qualifying on BBC 5 Sports Extra, race live on BBC Radio 5 Live. Live text updates on the BBC Sport website and app
A proposal to bring back V10 engines to Formula 1 is set to be rejected by the sport's engine manufacturers next week.Mohammed Ben Sulayem, the president of governing body the FIA, has been championing a plan to reintroduce high-revving, big capacity naturally aspirated engines to F1.Ben Sulayem has been pushing for the move to happen as early as 2028 or 2029 - despite F1 introducing a new engine formula next year that is scheduled to run until the end of 2030.But under F1's governance system, the plan needs to be backed by four of the five engine manufacturers that will be in F1 next year, which are Mercedes, Ferrari, Honda, Audi and Red Bull Powertrains, which is backed by Ford.Audi had already indicated its support for the 2026 engine formula, which retains 1.6-litre turbo hybrid engines but increases the proportion of total power provided by the electrical part of the engine to about 50% from the current 20%. These will be run on fully sustainable fuels.Honda, which abandoned plans to quit F1 because of the new rules, has now indicated it also backs hybrid engines.
Koji Watanabe, president of Honda Racing Corporation, told motorsport.com Japan: "We know that the FIA intends to introduce naturally aspirated V10 engines from 2028. However, we have not received detailed information from the FIA. There will be meetings organised by the FIA, in which the engine manufacturers will participate, and we would like to discuss it there first."At the moment we don't have any details. We can't say whether V10s are acceptable or not in terms of efficiency. We would first like to understand the details of what is being proposed before we start a discussion."A meeting is planned, and at that meeting we want to express our point of view as engine manufacturers."As far as Honda is concerned, our reason for entering F1 again is electrification and (the type of) powertrains."Mercedes is open to discussing the idea of a new engine formula but says it would need it to retain a hybrid element for the company to stay interested.The opposition of Honda and Audi alone is enough to torpedo the plan. With Mercedes also against the idea of abandoning hybrids, it appears to have no chance of success, even though Red Bull and Ferrari are said to back the idea.The manufacturers will meet with the FIA to discuss the future of engines at the Bahrain Grand Prix on 11 April.The FIA hopes to secure a clear answer on the manufacturers' vision for the future.Ben Sulayem had signalled that the introduction of sustainable fuels, which cut the carbon emissions from an internal combustion engine from between 80-100% depending on the way the fuel is manufactured, could open the door to the return of loud, high-revving engines.V10s became the default engine in F1 from the mid-1990s until 2005, after which the sport switched to V8s, and have a resonance with a certain section of the fan base.However, Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff is one of a number of senior figures who have questioned whether the changing fan demographic means that V10s are no longer as important.Many younger, female fans have become interested in F1 following the Covid pandemic and the success of Netflix's Drive to Survive series.Wolff said: "You need to be open-minded. We're all racers, we like the engines of the past, and then you need to strike the right balance between what is exciting to us dinosaurs, screaming loud engines, and then the fanbase, and the audiences that are on the track."And maybe that has migrated a little bit from pure petrolheads to younger demographics, to feminists that are coming on to the track that haven't even been part of those years."All of this needs to be set as questions, as what are the objectives for a future regulation change in a few years, and then let's analyse that based on data and come to a conclusion that is for the best of our sport."Because this is the single most important denominator between the FIA, Formula 1, the teams, that we want to have the greatest product for our fans."

Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

Austrian association urges FIA members to reject statute changes
Austrian association urges FIA members to reject statute changes

Reuters

time3 hours ago

  • Reuters

Austrian association urges FIA members to reject statute changes

MONTREAL, June 11 (Reuters) - The Austrian Automobile Association (OAMTC) has urged FIA members to reject proposed statute changes it fears will damage motorsport's world governing body and limit opposition to the re-election of president Mohammed Ben Sulayem. In an unsigned June 10 letter emailed to the mobility section of the FIA's world council, and seen by Reuters, the OAMTC set out its opposition to a vote on the agenda of the FIA General Assembly in Macau on Thursday. "We appeal to all members to support our motion to remove the voting on the proposed FIA statute changes from the General Assembly's agenda," the letter said, suggesting a postponement to a later meeting. "There is no urgency regarding these proposed changes ... they risk further contributing to the erosion of the FIA's reputation for competent and transparent governance. "It cannot be - and is not - a coincidence that changes relevant to the FIA's elections have been promoted by the FIA's leadership at the same time as the FIA's incumbent president has announced an intention to run in those elections. "Where there is even a risk of these changes appearing to benefit the current FIA administration, and not the FIA itself, the changes should not be adopted." An International Automobile Federation spokesperson in London was not immediately aware of the letter but confirmed the vote was scheduled for Thursday. Those attending the gathering in Macau could not be reached immediately for comment. The OAMTC said the eight proposed statute changes raised issues of fairness and consistency, and that they would discourage opposition to Ben Sulayem. Ben Sulayem is standing for re-election in December, with no rival candidate so far coming forward. He told Reuters last month when he confirmed he was standing that he welcomed competition. Ben Sulayem recognised he had enemies but said he was confident he had the support of a majority of FIA members. "I only have to answer to my members. And they are happy. Actually, they are very happy. They are extremely happy," he said. The Emirati has been involved in several controversies since he took over in 2021 and has been at loggerheads with drivers as well as drawing criticism from FIA insiders, while some senior employees have left. Briton Robert Reid, a former close ally who quit as an FIA deputy president in April, wrote in his resignation statement of a "fundamental breakdown in governance standards" at the governing body. Reid and Motorsport UK head David Richards had opposed other statute changes approved by the General Assembly last December that they said limited the powers of audit and ethics committees.

Rolls-Royce Wants to Focus on Exclusivity and Brand Heritage Over Production Numbers
Rolls-Royce Wants to Focus on Exclusivity and Brand Heritage Over Production Numbers

Auto Blog

time4 hours ago

  • Auto Blog

Rolls-Royce Wants to Focus on Exclusivity and Brand Heritage Over Production Numbers

Instead, it is investing more on a money-making program that other luxury automakers are doubling down on. Rolls-Royce isn't like everyone else Growing sales numbers and volume are the name of the game for some of the most popular automakers like Toyota, Volkswagen, and Ford, but lately, even some of the most venerable names making premium cars have been ramping up their output. In recent years, luxury powerhouses like BMW and Mercedes, and even exotic brands like Lamborghini, have grown their lineups to ramp up their annual sales with a broad stream of eager, new customers seeking a ride on the wave of prestige of their badge. However, one of the most illustrious luxury car brands, Rolls-Royce, is bucking the trend. 0:02 / 0:09 Walmart is selling a 'heavy duty' $89 step ladder for $48, and shoppers say it's 'sturdy and secure' Watch More Rolls-Royce Ghost Series II Black Badge — Source: Rolls-Royce Exclusivity is the name of the game In a recent interview with American broadcaster ABC, the newly appointed president of Rolls-Royce North America, Jon Colbeth, said that the phenomenon of luxury automakers chasing volumes is a 'race to the bottom,' that puts their brand's image in jeopardy. 'There are plenty of manufacturers with very expensive cars out there with full showrooms right now,' Colbeth said. 'We want to invest in the brand, we want to continue investing in the brand, but we want to grow it with bespoke.' In lieu of chasing volume, Rolls sees its Bespoke service as a new driver of its business. By ordering a bespoke car from Rolls-Royce, deep-pocketed clients forgo the showroom in favor of 'Private Offices,' where they can commission unique vehicles with personalized paint colors, special materials, and other 'wishes' to be granted for the right price. In his words, Colbeth explained that 'If somebody is going to buy a new Rolls-Royce, they want to make sure it's their Rolls-Royce. The only way to do that is to personalize it.' Source: Rolls-Royce Rolls is investing $370 million to expand its plant in Goodwood, England, to aid the program. In a statement released during its announcement in May 2024, CEO Chris Brownridge revealed that the upgrades will help the company with bottlenecks in the current production process. For instance, upgrades to the paint shop will help it apply two-tone color schemes on more cars. Despite this, Rolls and Colbeth have no intention of increasing production numbers or even promoting their cars with celebrity faces. They note that the 'brand speaks for itself,' and clients don't buy Rolls-Royces 'because a celebrity is driving it.' Autoblog Newsletter Autoblog brings you car news; expert reviews and exciting pictures and video. Research and compare vehicles, too. Sign up or sign in with Google Facebook Microsoft Apple By signing up I agree to the Terms of Use and acknowledge that I have read the Privacy Policy . You may unsubscribe from email communication at anytime. 'We don't want to be the car for everybody,' Colbeth told ABC. 'It's not what we're about. We're investing $370 million in our [U.K.] plant extension without making more vehicles. What brand does that? Our focus is adding bespoke capacity and allowing each commission to be more special for clients.' Rolls-Royce Phantom — Source: Rolls-Royce Although the brand managed to move 5,712 vehicles last year amid the introduction of new models like the Spectre EV and an updated Cullinan SUV, Colbeth maintains that no matter which vehicles they choose, new clients join the Rolls-Royce 'family and everything that comes along with it.' 'We need to grow the future of Rolls-Royce. We've been around for 120 years … and we're going to be around for a long time. We're stewards of the brands. Our responsibility is to cherish it.' Final thoughts Personalization and luxury goods go hand-in-hand. Parisian fashion ateliers Louis Vuitton and Goyard offer hand-painted monograms on their items, and shirtmakers from Brooks Brothers to Eton offer their customers the opportunity to add their initials to their white shirts in various fonts and colored threads. Going back to cars, Rolls-Royce is not alone in making boatloads of money from programs similar to its bespoke program. Ferrari has the Tailor Made and Atelier programs, Porsche has Sunderwunsch ('special wishes'), and even Maserati has an in-house customization program called the 'Officine Fuoriserie Maserati,' or 'Office Out of Series Maserati.' In 2024, Ferrari sold just 13,752 vehicles but grossed around €1.3 billion ($1.35 billion) from personalization last year, accounting for about a fifth of overall revenues at the prancing horse. Taste may be subjective, but the freedom that ultra-luxury automakers let clients customize their vehicles proves there is money to be made. About the Author James Ochoa View Profile

Le Mans and F1 in same year? Too much now, says Hulkenberg
Le Mans and F1 in same year? Too much now, says Hulkenberg

Reuters

time6 hours ago

  • Reuters

Le Mans and F1 in same year? Too much now, says Hulkenberg

MONTREAL, June 11 (Reuters) - Nico Hulkenberg raced in the 24 Hours of Le Mans a decade ago when the Formula One calendar allowed it, and came away a winner with Porsche. The German could not do that now, with the 93rd edition of the French endurance race clashing with this weekend's Canadian Grand Prix where Hulkenberg, now 37, will be on the starting grid with Sauber. There will be another overlap next year but even if there was not Hulkenberg says trying to do both would be too much today. "I think everyone was a lot less busy (in 2015), you know, than now," the German, who finished fifth in Spain two weekends ago, told Reuters in a recent interview. "Twenty-four races, all the stuff in between, it's a full-time job. I can only talk for myself but, personally, I wouldn't want the extra gig at the moment. I'm fully focused on F1 and for me, I'm happy that way." Hulkenberg, now one of only two fathers on the F1 grid along with Max Verstappen, was with Force India in 2015 when he got the chance to race Le Mans. The sportscar race chooses its winners, they say, and that weekend he hit the jackpot along with fellow rookie Earl Bamber of New Zealand and Britain's Nick Tandy. Hulkenberg had raced in Canada the weekend before with F1 and went on to Austria immediately after. "It definitely took some time to first understand the car and get a grip on it and properly get the lap time out of it," he recalled. "I was still improving and understanding, I was clicking only really in the night of the race. "To jump back into Formula One I think was not a problem, because there was so much positivity after a race like this. I remember jumping into Austria and I was owning it and I was boss. It was no problem going back." The German's Formula One career has taken him from Williams in 2010 to racing for Aston Martin's predecessors Force India and Racing Point as well as Sauber, Renault and Haas with some gaps in between. "Why am I still here?," asked Formula One's only current German driver. "Because they still want me." Hulkenberg holds the record for most Formula One races without ever standing on the podium but that is also testament to his enduring worth as a driver with engineering and setup skills as well as speed. His 236 starts are way more than the next man on the list without a podium, retired fellow-German Adrian Sutil on 128. On the plus side, Hulkenberg has two fastest laps and a pole position and next year will be in at the start with the Audi factory team when Sauber is renamed. "I still love what I do. You know, Formula One and racing is my passion. It's what I do best, it's what I love. What else should I do?," he said. "I think it's the competition, you know, the thrill of qualifying, the buzz of a race, kicking ass but even the bad days -- just the racing, everything. I love that."

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into the world of global news and events? Download our app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store