
President Ramaphosa's National Dialogue is out of touch with African grassroots
While our communities grapple with gender-based violence, crime, corruption, inequality and social fragmentation, what we are being offered is not the opportunity to confront these urgent crises head-on, but rather a carefully curated event, far removed from the daily struggles of ordinary citizens.
This disconnect becomes even more glaring when we consider the lessons of the past. Back in 2009, when the original NDP process began, the National Planning Commission, chaired by then Minister Trevor Manuel, was clear about the distinction between lofty ideals and actionable plans.
'Visions are visions. They are broad, frequently general. They are aspirations,' Manuel warned. 'But plans have to be detailed, supported by numbers.'
Ramaphosa's proposed dialogue feels like yet another broad, aspirational exercise disconnected from practical, measurable action.
The missing first step: returning to our roots of authentic dialogue
Growing up in an African community, Ramaphosa would have been shaped by traditions that prioritised meaningful, grassroots engagement. Justice under the tree, gathering around the fire and community problem-solving were never abstract ideals; they were lived, practical realities that anchored decision-making in language, culture and shared understanding.
Our Constitutional Court itself reflects these principles, embodying restorative justice rooted in African traditions.
We saw the same values during the Mont Fleur Scenarios of 1991, where South African leaders, activists, economists, ANC officials, academics and business leaders came together to confront the harsh realities of apartheid and imagine a different future. Importantly, they engaged with humility, urgency and a willingness to hear uncomfortable truths – not in corporate boardrooms, but through inclusive dialogue grounded in real experiences.
Somewhere along the way, Ramaphosa seems to have lost sight of these foundational principles.
The fundamental flaw in Ramaphosa's National Dialogue is that it skips the most crucial first step: genuine engagement with the communities most affected by South Africa's challenges.
This is not merely a matter of consultation; it is about ensuring any national conversation is grounded in real data, authentic voices, and the uncomfortable truths that emerge from township streets, rural villages and community halls. Without this foundation, dialogue among elites becomes premature, uninformed and, ultimately, disconnected from the problems it claims to address.
The reality on the ground: excluded frontline voices
In my recent experience of engaging with three police stations on their approach to gender-based violence (GBV), it became clear that the very people tasked with delivering justice are underprepared, unsupported and excluded from meaningful conversations about solutions.
Officers openly expressed frustration at their lack of training and resources, especially when dealing with GBV cases. Some even asked, 'How do we begin to report and deal with GBV cases?' It was deeply concerning to hear officers say that they don't know how to deal with one of the biggest issues the country is facing.
If Ramaphosa spent time listening to those on the front lines – police officers, community workers, survivors – his policies would be shaped by reality, not disconnected visions. But right now, these critical voices are excluded from shaping national solutions.
This concern reflects a broader problem: the people working on the front lines are systematically excluded from meaningful conversations about solutions. Many operate within broken systems, with little institutional support, resulting in failed justice for survivors and growing public distrust.
These are the voices and experiences that should inform any national dialogue.
Building an informed foundation: the path forward
Before any national dialogue proceeds, we need to start where the real South African story is being lived – around fires, in community halls, on street corners – speaking directly to those affected by these challenges. Language, culture and context matter. Social consensus cannot be built in luxury venues when trust, understanding and practical solutions have yet to be built at the grassroots level.
This means conducting proper research, gathering credible data and creating space for diverse communities across South Africa to share their lived experiences.
We don't need to reinvent solutions – South Africans already know what works: authentic, community-driven engagement, leadership grounded in reality, and a willingness to hear hard truths.
Return to roots
Ramaphosa must return to the spaces where he once witnessed genuine, grassroots dialogue. We need honest, uncomfortable, face-to-face conversations with those carrying the daily weight of South Africa's hardships.
The president would do well to take cues from his own comrades, notably Trevor Manuel, whose original NDP process recognised that vision alone is meaningless without measurable action rooted in lived experience.
Likewise, the lessons of Mont Fleur show that during times of deep division, bold, inclusive conversations driven by ordinary people, not staged events, can help reshape South Africa's future.
The president faces a clear choice: continue with another sanitised, media-friendly gathering that delivers little beyond soundbites, or embrace the messy, uncomfortable, yet potentially transformative work of authentic, community-based engagement.
Until that first critical step is taken, this so-called dialogue remains premature, disconnected and destined to miss the very voices it claims to elevate.
Anything less is performative politics – a detached exercise in optics, wasting state resources that should be directed towards solving the very crises this dialogue claims to address. DM
Hashtags

Try Our AI Features
Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:
Comments
No comments yet...
Related Articles

IOL News
34 minutes ago
- IOL News
National Dialogue or National Waste? South Africa should learn from China's digital dialogue success
As South Africa gears up for its much-talked-about National Dialogue, set to kick off with a costly convention this week, one cannot help but wonder why the government insists on pouring millions into fancy gatherings when China has shown a smarter, cheaper way to gather public input through simple online platforms, especially when lessons from the COVID-19 era prove that virtual engagement is not only possible but effective for all South Africans. Image: File photo By Edgar Legoale As South Africa gears up for its much-talked-about National Dialogue, set to kick off with a costly convention this week, one cannot help but wonder why the government insists on pouring millions into fancy gatherings when China has shown a smarter, cheaper way to gather public input through simple online platforms, especially when lessons from the COVID-19 era prove that virtual engagement is not only possible but effective for all South Africans. The high cost of South Africa's talk shop President Cyril Ramaphosa announced the National Dialogue in his 2025 State of the Nation Address, painting it as a grand coming-together of government, political parties, civil society, business, labour, traditional leaders, women, youth, and community voices to shape the country's vision for the next 30 years. It sounds noble, a chance to rebuild trust after years of division and economic woes. The first step, the National Convention, runs from 15 to 17 August 2025 at the University of South Africa in Pretoria, bringing in about 1 000 delegates to set the agenda. But here's the thing: the whole process is budgeted at a whopping R700 million, a figure that has sparked outrage across the board. The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) and ActionSA leader Herman Mashaba, have slammed it as outrageous and wasteful, especially when South Africans are battling a brutal cost-of-living crisis, high unemployment, and rising crime. Mashaba called it a 'wasteful exercise,' and many agree, pointing out that we already know the problems – poverty, inequality, corruption, and poor service delivery – without needing expensive talk shops. Even seven leading foundations pulled out, citing rushed planning and a loss of citizen focus, while others label it a sham funded by foreign donors to create fake legitimacy. Ramaphosa has promised to scale down costs, but with the convention going ahead as planned, it's hard to see how much will really change. The Presidency clarified that costs cover logistics like venue hire, transport, and catering for delegates, but in a country where millions go hungry, spending big on hotels and flights feels tone-deaf. This isn't just about money; it's about exclusion. With only 1 000 spots at the convention, how many ordinary voices from rural areas or townships will truly be heard? The process claims to be inclusive, but many people argue it's putting the cart before the horse, ignoring the need for a clear follow-up to the National Development Plan and risking political point-scoring in the Government of National Unity (GNU). This isn't the first time we've seen such initiatives; think of the Codesa talks in the 1990s. But today, with digital tools at our fingertips, why stick to outdated, pricey methods? I believe this is how it must be done: redirect that R700 million to something tangible, like kick-starting the long-overdue Fezile Dabi University in Parys or Sasolburg, which could transform education and job opportunities in the Free State's Fezile Dabi District. The district's Integrated Development Plans highlight the need for higher education infrastructure, and with costs for building a university campus potentially starting in the hundreds of millions, this funding could lay the foundation for a facility offering programmes in key areas like engineering and agriculture, benefiting underserved communities. Lessons from COVID-19: We went online then, why not now? If there's one thing the COVID-19 pandemic taught us, it's that South Africans can adapt to online ways of connecting and sharing ideas. During those tough times from 2020 to 2022, everything shifted virtual – schools held classes on Zoom, businesses ran meetings via Microsoft Teams, and even government consultations happened through webinars and apps. Millions of us were glued to our screens, participating in national dialogues on health, economy, and recovery plans without leaving home. Platforms like WhatsApp groups, Facebook Live, and government portals allowed widespread input on issues like vaccine rollout and economic stimulus. Why not apply the same now for the National Dialogue? It was proven effective, cost nothing extra, and reached people in remote areas with just a smartphone and data. I believe this is how it must be done: embrace the digital shift we mastered during COVID to make consultations truly accessible and affordable, avoiding the waste we're seeing today. China's smart, low-cost approach to public input Contrast this with China, where the government just wrapped up a massive online consultation for its 15th Five-Year Plan, set to run from 2026 to 2030. They collected over 3,113,000 suggestions from citizens – three times more than the previous plan in 2020 – all through free, accessible digital platforms. No lavish conventions, no delegate flights or catering bills; just websites like People's Daily, Xinhua, and CCTV, plus local government portals and the 'Study to Strengthen the Nation' app. This app alone, launched in 2019, has 345 million registered users and sees 700 million daily visits, offering free content like books, courses, and news while letting people submit ideas easily. The consultation ran from 20 May to 20 June 2025, covering topics from tech innovation and diplomacy to education, employment, rural development, and environmental protection. Real people shared practical ideas: one user suggested stronger tobacco control with better signs and reporting channels, noting China's 23.2% smoking rate and the dangers of secondhand smoke. Another called for stricter food safety oversight, banning harmful pesticides and setting up traceability systems from farm to table. A third worried about student loans with high interest rates, urging restrictions to protect young people from debt traps. And someone pushed for more child-rearing subsidies, like tax deductions and better maternity insurance for informal workers. President Xi Jinping hailed it as 'exemplary practice of comprehensive process popular democracy,' urging deep listening to the masses to build a better life. Suggestions were capped at 4 000 words, with an email option for longer ones, making it simple and inclusive. This digital method reached millions without wasting a cent on venues or travel, proving that broad participation doesn't need big budgets. Why not go digital like China? The comparison is stark. China's approach is modern, efficient, and truly mass-based, harnessing technology to gather wisdom from everyday folks. South Africa's National Dialogue, while well-intentioned, risks becoming another talk fest that drains public funds without delivering real change. We've got the tools – think of apps like the eNatis system or even social media platforms where South Africans already voice their views daily. Why not create a free online portal for suggestions on our national priorities, linked to government websites and apps? It could cover everything from job creation and crime-fighting to education and healthcare, reaching far more people than a Pretoria convention ever could. I believe this is how it must be done: follow China's lead by launching a dedicated app or website for ongoing public input, ensuring every submission is tracked and responded to, turning dialogue into action. For instance, the Central University of Technology (CUT) in the Free State has its own innovation hub, including the Centre for Rapid Prototyping and Manufacturing (CRPM), which is a leading research and innovation centre in advanced manufacturing and 3D printing. They could easily develop or host such a digital platform for free, leveraging their expertise in technology and innovation to create a user-friendly tool that collects suggestions nationwide without any cost to the government. To make it even more accessible, we can involve major banks like FNB, Standard Bank, Absa, Nedbank, and Capitec to come on board. Surely, these banks can do this for free as part of their corporate social responsibility – featuring a dialogue link or dedicated tab in their apps where users can submit ideas after logging in securely. Millions of South Africans already use banking apps daily for transactions, so adding a simple submission form for national suggestions would reach a massive audience without extra development costs. Other ways to expand this include partnering with telecom giants like Vodacom, MTN, and Telkom to integrate submission features in their customer apps or via SMS portals for those without smartphones. Government services apps, such as the SASSA grant app or the Home Affairs e-services platform, could also host tabs for input, ensuring even the most vulnerable participate. Universities and tech hubs across the country, like those at Wits or UCT, could contribute by creating open-source tools or hosting virtual town halls. Social media integrations, such as WhatsApp bots or Facebook forms, would allow quick submissions, while community radio stations could promote SMS-based inputs for rural areas. I believe this is how it must be done: build a multi-platform ecosystem that combines free tech from institutions like CUT's innovation hub, bank apps for secure access, and everyday tools like telecom and social media to make the dialogue truly inclusive and cost-effective. Is it because our leaders fear losing control in a digital space, or perhaps because physical events allow for patronage and photo ops? Or maybe it's just old habits dying hard in a bureaucracy that's slow to embrace tech. Whatever the reason, pouring R700 million into this – even if scaled down – feels like a slap in the face to struggling taxpayers. China shows it's possible to consult widely without breaking the bank, fostering 'popular democracy' that feels genuine and actionable. South Africa, it's time to wake up. Why waste millions on dialogues that exclude most of us when a digital revolution could include everyone? Adopt China's model, save the money for real fixes like building Fezile Dabi University or hiring more police, and let the people's voices flow freely online. Anything less is just more empty promises in a country that can no longer afford them. Edgar Legoale is chief servant at Edgar Legoale Foundation | Activist | Media Consultant | PR and Communications Strategist | Crisis Comms Expert. Image: Supplied * Edgar Legoale is chief servant at Edgar Legoale Foundation | Activist | Media Consultant | PR and Communications Strategist | Crisis Comms Expert. ** The views expressed do not necessarily reflect the views of IOL or Independent Media. BUSINESS REPORT

IOL News
34 minutes ago
- IOL News
National Dialogue Convention set to proceed amid concerns over costs
The first national convention of the National Dialogue is expected to go ahead on Friday despite growing concerns about the cost of the dialogue. Image: Jairus Mmutle / GCIS The first convention of the National Dialogue is expected to go ahead on Friday despite growing concerns about the cost of the gathering. Intended to launch an extensive public dialogue process aimed at addressing the pressing socio-economic issues faced by citizens, the Convention is not without its detractors. While the National Convention Organising Committee remains optimistic, critics have voiced significant concerns over the financial implications and the efficacy of such discussions amidst a backdrop of unfulfilled promises from previous government initiatives. Political analyst Siyabonga Ntombela from the University of KwaZulu-Natal (UKZN) said that South Africa was not a nation in the true sense and meaning of the word. 'We are not even united in our diversity, plus we do not even have a unique identity that unifies us. Instead, we use race and classism to further divide us. Major corruption under a black government has made this cleavage even worse,' Ntombela said. 'Therefore, there is nothing new and unknown that will come out of this National Dialogue. People have spoken loud and clear as to what the government ought to do to create a prosperous South Africa. it will have a huge fiscal impact but nothing meaningful or transformational.' According to a statement released on Monday by the Organising Committee, the first National Convention is tasked with several objectives: it will kickstart the process of engaging communities across the nation, identify key themes for discussion, and establish a Steering Committee to oversee future dialogue. A total of 1 000 delegates, representing more than 30 sectors and over 200 organisations, have been invited to attend; however, only 755 have confirmed participation as of yesterday. As citizens prepare for a gathering that hopes to ignite meaningful conversations about the country's future, reactions from political analysts, economists, and trade union representatives reveal a spectrum of opinions about the initiative's potential. Senior political science lecturer at the UKZN, Zakhele Ndlovu, remains sceptical. 'It is going to be another talk shop. Look at commissions of inquiry, their recommendations are never implemented. South Africans elect representatives to take the country in the right direction,' Ndlovu said. 'Actually, it is a distraction because we are now busy talking about it instead of holding our leaders accountable. In every election, South Africans continue to let their representatives get away with moving the country in the wrong direction.' In contrast, Unisa economist Dr Eliphas Ndou contended that the dialogue offers an essential opportunity for citizens to shape policy. He believes that meaningful contributions could foster a prosperous future for all South Africans, provided that outcomes are translated into actionable reforms. 'The outcomes from the dialogue could result in formulation of policies that result in a prosperous future for all the South African people.' The Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) has expressed its support for the National Dialogue, citing the dire socio-economic challenges facing the working class. Cosatu's Parliamentary Coordinator Matthew Parks emphasised the necessity of mobilising society to address these issues and urges that any administrative hurdles should not delay the dialogue's progression. 'Whilst the Federation appreciates legitimate concerns outlined by the Legacy Foundations and other organisations, these can and must be addressed and the Dialogue proceeds as intended. If we wait for all issues; be it logistics, organisational or philosophical, to be resolved, we may find that time will simply run out,' he said. Parks added that Cosatu will participate in the Dialogue as the many deep-seated socio-economic challenges facing the working class, the economy and the state, are such that they require the mobilisation of the entirety of society, including business to resolve


The Citizen
an hour ago
- The Citizen
SA Indians and Muslims warned about fraud and Extortion Calls
A person claiming to be from the Indian consulate in Pretoria makes allegations of South Africans linked to the recent terror attacks in Indian-administered Kashmir. South African Indians and Muslims have been urged to be wary and take precautions against scammers purporting to be from the Indian Consulate in Pretoria who are using the recent war between India and Pakistan over Indian-administered Kashmir to extort money. This writer was contacted last week by a person claiming to be from the Indian consulate in Pretoria about the alleged terror attacks in Kashmir on 22 April, which killed 26 people. Allegations India blamed the attack on Pakistan, which ignited a conflict between the two countries. During the call last week, the person claimed that the writer had registered a telephone number in India and that his South African mobile number was listed as an alternate contact. 'The number you registered in India is linked to the recent attack in Kashmir, and I have to ask you questions if you registered it.' ALSO READ: Dirco slams old travel advisory about terrorism in South Africa The caller asked a series of questions, including recent travels and inquiries about identity documents and passports. Scammers The writer was aware of potential scammers taking advantage of South Africans and people across the globe with telephone calls from call centres originating from India to extort computer IP addresses to fleece people of their money. An attorney told The Citizen that if the call was legit, the individual should email the copies of the document so that the allegations could be verified. The Citizen contacted the Indian consulate in Pretoria and was told that embassy officials would not contact people using a mobile number. Fraud and extortion The official said the Indian consulate had issued an alert titled 'Fraud and Extortion Calls: An Alert!' about people of Indian origin in South Africa being targeted by scammers. 'We have been informed that some criminal and anti-social persons are attempting to spoof the Consulate General's telephone numbers to call persons of Indian origin to threaten them with legal or other consequences and demand money purportedly on behalf of the Consulate General or Government of India agencies. 'Please be assured that no one from the Consulate General will be calling members of the public over the telephone to demand money for Government purposes. Please report any such calls that you receive to your local police after noting the number and any details that the callers leave with you,' the Indian Consulate said. The Citizen tried calling the person who made the allegations, but the number was 'unavailable' and switched off. ALSO READ: US level 2 travel alert for SA 'nothing new', Presidency says