
John Kiely: 'You don't expect to be in Croke Park for an All-Ireland quarter-final but we'll take it'
It's hardly a whole new ball game but a step into the unknown it certainly is for John Kiely and Limerick on Saturday as they attempt to recover from a [url=
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In only their second All-Ireland quarter-final in his reign, agreeing to facing Dublin in Croke Park rather than Thurles can be interpreted as many things: confidence remains high despite what happened against Cork in last Saturday week's Munster SHC final, Limerick sought to launch a pre-emptive psychological blow against Dublin or Kiely is keen to make the game as challenging as possible for his charges.
Two years ago, Clare proposed handing home advantage to Limerick for that year's Munster final rather than going to Cork. Broadly speaking, this situation is similar. If Limerick can't produce in a venue where they have won five All-Ireland finals and another quintet of semi-finals, where can they?
'It's not a factor in our psyche,' says Kiely of the decision to play the game in Croke Park. 'This year, we've been to Cork to play Cork, Thurles to play Tipp, Waterford to play Waterford and now we're going to Dublin to play Dublin and that's really it. We get on with it.
'If you're not looking forward to playing a game in Croke Park, then there is something wrong. It's a great opportunity for us to get another game in there and we've a good record there, always performed there.
Limerick may use the Munster final loss as fuel going to Croke Park to face Dublin. Photo by Ray McManus/Sportsfile
'It's refreshing as well. We've been through to the Munster campaign. You don't expect to be in Croke Park for an All-Ireland quarter-final but we'll definitely take it.'
It won't have been easy for Kiely and his group since last Saturday week. He agrees that the players won't need much encouragement to bounce back after the penalty shoot-out defeat but they will require guidelines.
'We have to try and provide the scaffolding and the narrative in the conversations. As a management team, we still have to put the information in front of the players, present them with a piece of content regarding Dublin from a tactical and a performance perspective. That's going to help out guys make better decisions on the pitch.
'There are pieces there that need to be scaffolded but from an intrinsic motivational factor there is no doubt the lads are very determined to move to the next phase of the competition. We're also acutely aware of the challenge that awaits us in Dublin. It will be a very challenging environment. It is Dublin's backyard, if you like, and there will be a huge Dublin crowd in Croke Park for this game and there's no way Limerick will be able to equal it, I imagine. This is without doubt a task for us but we'll embrace it, we'll go after it and we'll work hard at it. We'll try and be the best that we can be.'
It's Limerick's first time attempting to make the All-Ireland semi-finals via the backdoor since that inaugural Liam MacCarthy Cup success under Kiely in 2018. Back then, they beat Kilkenny in Thurles at this stage having seen off Carlow in the earlier preliminary quarter-final game.
It's not a reference point for Limerick, Kiely says. 'For us, it's about starting the new chapter of this season and trying to do it in the very best way that we can. We're really trying to get the highest performance level that we can. It's a hugely important game with an awful lot at stake. We don't want our season to end on Saturday evening.'
Dublin will be primed and ready to upset Kiely's charges in their backyard. File picture: Piaras Ó Mídheach/Sportsfile
Lazy analysis would suggest Dublin will be physically able for Limerick and the likes of Cian O'Sullivan will be troublesome for them but ultimately they will fall down in other departments. Kiely begs to differ. 'I've watched back all of their games and they have had really tight games. They went to Nowlan Park and really put it up to Kilkenny, which as we know from the springtime is a very difficult thing to do.
'They had a tight game against Wexford and another against Galway. Those were three extremely competitive games they were involved in and they would have been very disappointed not to have won more.'
As well as home advantage, it's Dublin who enjoy the double-header this weekend. Limerick supporters who want to take in Saturday's game and the county's Tailteann Cup semi-final against Wicklow on Sunday will have to pay almost double for the pleasure.
Kiely will be one of those in GAA HQ the following afternoon cheering on the footballers. 'I'm in contact as much with Jimmy Lee as I was with Billy Lee and first and foremost I'm thrilled with the footballers. What they've done this year has been outstanding going back to the league. The Tailteann Cup is a very competitive competition and to reach the semi-finals is a massive achievement and to play in Croke Park again.
"I'm thrilled for them, I wish them the very best and of course we would like the two games together but it's not possible for both Limerick and Dublin to have their double-headers. We just have to get on with it and make the most of it. I'll be up on Sunday to support them and shout them on all the way.'

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