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The Most Surprising New Restaurant In Los Angeles Is Hiding Near LAX

The Most Surprising New Restaurant In Los Angeles Is Hiding Near LAX

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Harry Posner and Natalie Dial are the husband-and-wife team behind Tomat. Zsuzsi Steiner
Nobody talks about LAX and its environs as a premier dining destination. It's certainly not part of Los Angeles where you'd expect an atmospheric rooftop terrace, house-baked pistachio madeleines and smoky roasted butter served with cloud-soft barbari bread. But then you walk into Tomat, tucked into a Westchester strip mall opposite Staples, and the assumptions start to fly away.
Tomat is the work of Harry Posner and Natalie Dial, an amiable husband-and-wife team whose path to this unlikely corner of Los Angeles comes with some impressive passport stamps. Born in Los Angeles but raised in England, Posner cooked at The Clove Club in London, an acclaimed Michelin-starred kitchen, and at the now-closed Inua in Tokyo, an experimental fermentation-forward offshoot of Noma. In between medical studies, he trained at Ireland's Ballymaloe Cookery School and both he and Dial, also from Los Angeles, spent a formative stint baking at a friend's rustic bakery in Northern Italy.
Tomat brings a fresh new culinary twist to an area of Los Angeles not known for fine dining. Tomat
For years they dreamed of opening a neighborhood restaurant rooted in the kind of food they like to eat, which is seasonal and soulful and influenced by their cultural backgrounds—Persian, British, Californian. When a Westchester space became available just before they pandemic, they took the leap. Construction sprawled for three years as plans shifted but they stayed it through.
Today, Tomat is a bright, all-day cafe by morning and a globally inspired dinner destination by night. You can order Lamill coffee and croissants after a morning walk or sit on the rooftop terrace with blankets and cocktails at sunset. The dinner menu includes everything from fesenjān-inspired roast duck to black cod in Thai-style curry and ghormeh sabzi–flavored Rancho Gordo beans.
Posner and Dial are fabulous restaurant hosts. They like to chat and you want to spend time with them beyond just hearing about each dish. They come from very different backgrounds but have the same value for food, sourcing and community and are very much in this venture together—even as they devote themselves to their two-year-old daughter.
I sat down with the couple to hear how Tomat came to life, through a pandemic, across continents, and with an eye toward building something lasting in the most unexpected of places.
Even in a city flush with farm-to-table menus, Tomat stands out with a dinner menu that namechecks more than two dozen regional growers, makers and artisans. Wonho Frank Lee
David Hochman: The area around LAX has never been associated with amazing food—beyond the iconic In-N-Out Burger location that people love to hit when they arrive in Los Angeles. Talk about your personal history with this location and what the Westchester neighborhood means to you.
Natalie Dial: My family has a long history in Westchester, like back to the 1940s. My great-grandmother bought one of the first big grocery stores in Westchester called Jim Dandy, back when there were still bean fields. And then my grandparents lived here. My parents both grew up here, although I grew up in Montana, and now we live here. This has always felt like home to me. We've watched it go through many iterations but it's always had a really strong family feel, even as the mom-and-pop shops have come and gone. Tomat: A Community Player (With Pastry) By Day and Fine Dining By Night
Harry Posner: Community is the word I'd use. People who live here love living here and they're raising kids and like to go to places that feel like an extension of their homes. What's fun for us is being be a part of that community — we have a young kid ourselves — but also to be bringing something new to the area. There really hasn't been a high-end, finer dining experience in Westchester so we wanted to set the tone. That means being really welcoming instead of, you know, intimidating. We're a community player where you can start the day with us with coffee and a pastry or get a little dressed up at night for a date night and go up to our rooftop and watch the planes take off at LAX.
David Hochman: Of course, you also need to stand out among all the fine-dining establishments in Los Angeles. How would you say Tomat is different from other restaurant experiences in this city?
Harry Posner: For us it starts with the farmers and artisans and purveyors who source for us. We're constantly reviewing and re-reviewing our source list and how to make the menu as local and as sustainable as we can. That's not unique to Tomat but we feel we do things differently. We'll design whole dishes around one special fruit that's in season, like the Weiser Family Farms melon with strawberry kimchi currently on the menu.
Tomat is pastry stop by morning and a fine-dining restaurant by night. Wonho Frank Lee
Hochman: Even by farm-to-table restaurant standards, your menu is unusual in that you namecheck more than two dozen partners by name, from Alex Weiser and Tcho Chocolate to Oaktown Spice Shop. TOMAT TOMAT | FARM-TO-TABLE RESTAURANT | 6261 W 87TH STREET, WESTCHESTER, CA, USA
Posner: Why not? These are artisans who don't always get recognized for the hard work they do. We work very closely with K&K Ranch, and they're the loveliest family. It's a fourth-generation farm in Orosi, California. The brother owns the dentist practice at the end of the street. Their peaches, their nectarines, the blueberries, the apricots, the raisins—they're just insane this year. It's some of the best fruit I've ever had and it's a joy to highlight small producers like them. Or this this super small producer called Chico Rice, another fourth-generation farm, that we use for all our rice dishes, including making our misos and things like that. These places are like family to us. Tomat's Signature Rice Dish Is Worth Missing Your Flight For
Hochman: Speaking of rice, your saffron rice dish alone is worth the trip to Westchester. Talk about what goes into that deliciousness.
Posner: I'm from Persian heritage and I worked a little bit in Japan, and I've always felt—although I may be completely off the mark—that there's a synergy between Persian and Japanese cultures around cooking. It sounds strange, but there's a lot of rice-based dishes and pickle-based dishes. Obviously, there are very, very different flavors, but the goal is similar. These dishes have to be perfect, even in their simplicity, and there's something exciting about striving for that.
Hochman: For people who haven't the saffron rice yet, what should they know about the dish, which—spoiler alert—arrives at the table in a clay pot that instantly makes every other table in the restaurant want to order it.
Posner: That's the Japanese donabe pot. I learned about that style of cooking in Japan from a Michelin-starred chef who told me about cooking rice in a donabe in an oven. You can also do it over an open fire. In a way, it's super easy but it's also quite sophisticated as far as flavors. There's saffron, pickled raisins, pumpkin seeds, dill and this beautiful jeweled rice. Even the donabe is sourced locally. We get them from Toiro Kitchen, an amazing Japanese cookware store in North Hollywood. With a menu item like this, we really hit the sweet spot of cooking in a way that links together all these cultures that we love.
Hochman: You recently started having music on the rooftop in partnership with Sam First, the phenomenal jazz club that's next to the airport. Clearly you're going for more than just serving meals. What do you want people to know about Tomat and what you're going for?
Dial: The main thing is, we are here, we're doing something slightly different, so try us out, give us a go. We're going for sustainability and showing off Californian produce, and if that's something that they're interested in, I think they'd really like our place. But if you want to come in the morning for a coffee, a pastry, or really fun brunch options or or cocktails, we have that as well.
And then if you want to come at night and just sit on the roof and have a drink and have some live music, try that out. Yes, we want everything to be delicious but we also really want to take some of the pretentiousness out of fine dining and make the experience accessible and welcoming.
Hochman: And in the rare moments that you are not working—because I know you work like 12 hours a day—and you're not being parents to a two-year-old, where do you like to eat?
Dial: We usually take our daughter out when we're going out, so we go to a lot of dim sum. We love going to Torrance and the South Bay, because it's an easy drive for us. Otafuku in Gardena is amazing for noodles—one of our favorites.
Posner: It's the fun of it. I'd say beforehand—I've worked with Junya Yamasaki at Yess, and I think everything he produces is absolutely delicious and amazing. Dudley Market's one of our favorites for an amazing glass of wine and great food. It's always very comfortable. And Chef Connor [Mitchell] hates the fact that his burger gets more attention than the rest of his incredible menu, but the burger is really good, and I am happy to annoy him anytime. It reminds me of the places where I started out in London, especially St. John, where the atmosphere is relaxed but the food is unbelievably good.
Dial: It's about being comfortable and trying amazing food. In the mornings, we've got a Welsh rarebit-style croque monsieur—it's delicious, and it's fun. And, you know, the farmers market runs here on Sundays, so it feels like a big community moment. And we love that. It's maybe the most meaningful part for us. Our regulars and the community are showing up. That's why we opened Tomat in the first place.
This interview with the couple behind Tomat has been edited and condensed for accuracy and clarity.
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Cassey Ho was getting her roots dyed when she started receiving hundreds of ecstatic messages. In a video clip promoting her song 'Fortnight,' Taylor Swift was shown wearing the Pirouette Skort, a flouncy, tutu-style skirt with built-in shorts underneath, that Ho had designed for her athleisure brand Popflex. She knew immediately this exposure — one of the world's biggest pop stars, flaunting Ho's design — would be life-changing. 'I am just numb. I can't even scream, I can't even speak,' she recalls of the moment she realized what was happening. 'I am just dead.' Even though it appeared for literally one second in Swift's video, that brief moment caused the entire inventory of thousands of skorts to be snapped up within an hour, and a week later, over 10,000 customers had placed preorders for the product (to date, Popflex has sold over 50,000 Pirouette Skorts in total). Then came the dupes. The Popflex skort caught the attention of a more ominous group: imitators, or more precisely, companies churning out look-alikes of popular clothing items. Within weeks, Pirouette Skort copies — mesh ruffles, drawstring waistband, pastel colors and all — had flooded the web. More than a year later, they haven't stopped. And there is not much Ho, who built a fitness empire around her popular YouTube channel, can do about it, even as someone with a large and recognizable platform. Copycat Pirouette Skorts have been sold on Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, TikTok Shop, DHGate, Temu, Shein, and countless other fly-by-night storefronts that will seemingly disappear as quickly as they popped up. They are cheaper, faster, and shameless; many of the listings do not even show the actual item that is being sold. They simply use Popflex's copyrighted images without permission, sometimes editing the color of the skort in the photo to fit the listing. In May 2025 alone, Popflex counted 461 listings it believes infringe on its Pirouette Skort design patent, but it's still a drop in the bucket of the thousands that Ho has encountered just by doing reverse image searches. 'I don't have the time or the money to go after all of these infringements, all these dupers,' Ho says. 'It's just too much.' Many listings live on, copyrighted images promoting a product of unknown origin and quality. Dupes for popular, covetable products are nothing new: for hundreds of years, people have meticulously copied other artists' work, from forged ancient Chinese art, to licensed replicas of designer ballgowns in the 1940s, to knockoff phone chargers meant to mimic Apple aesthetics. The internet has helped dupes spread like wildfire, so much so that even relatively niche and unknown products — in fashion, home goods, makeup, and tech — likely have a doppelgänger floating around out there. It has never been faster or easier to make and sell a copy of something. What was once relegated to Canal Street is now an industry in and of itself. Some companies seem to operate with the express purpose of copying popular (or even niche) consumer products. And for American shoppers already accustomed to inexpensive products, finding the same thing for less is second nature. Living among copies of something else is as ordinary an experience as scrolling past three of the same posts, one after another, on any given social media site. The similitude of consumers' options has even upended certain corners of the legal system, where intellectual property rights holders are trying to fight the speed and scale of the internet with their own — at times flawed — versions of the same. It is dupes all the way down. Here are just a few of the things that have been duped, according to people online: makeup, Le Creuset Dutch ovens, hand sanitizer, designer perfumes, Apple AirPods Max, Oura Ring fitness trackers, viral phone cases, dishwasher pods, famous banana pudding recipes, Pilates workouts, and the entire island of Santorini. Across platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and online forums, content creators have built entire personas and brands on the promise of finding lower-cost versions of popular products. This phenomenon isn't exactly new — for years celebrity and fashion blogs have done something similar — but the dupe industrial complex has taken on a new life in the age of influencer marketing. Grocery chain Trader Joe's, for example, regularly releases cosmetics that are unsubtle in their imitation of existing, popular products: lip glosses, body washes, lotions, and more with near-identical packaging, concepts, and even formulas to other brands' products. While the average shopper might not catch the reference, those in the know seek the products out. Content begets more content, a cycle of someone making a video about a dupe, someone else watching it, buying the same dupe, and recording their own enthusiasts lean on the same rhetoric that the internet is built on: that wider accessibility is a democratizing force. But unlike democratizing the media industry through citizen journalism, or learning video editing via YouTube tutorials, a dupe begins by picking up an existing work or idea. A dupe is valuable precisely because of the value of the original, and without it, the dupe is just another tube of lip gloss. For some consumers, dupes are proof that the original is overpriced and taking advantage of the consumer. If a company can make a dupe that's $10 less, the originator must be ripping us off, the thinking goes; the creative work of making something new in the first place is worthless, reduced to a game of who can do it cheaper. Some social media platforms have taken to displaying scary-sounding notices when a user searches for the word 'dupes' — a query on Instagram for 'Apple dupes' returns a blank results page that urges users to 'protect [their] favorite brands' against 'counterfeit goods.' A search on TikTok for 'Amazon dupes' returns a message reading, in part, 'Fight Piracy, Champion Creativity … the promotion of counterfeit goods are not allowed on our platform and violate our policies and Community Guidelines.' Interestingly, a search on Amazon for 'Skims dupes' — Skims being the minimalist clothing line by Kim Kardashian — doesn't return any kind of scold-y message, just pages of similar products. Dupes are not synonymous with counterfeits — intentional imitations that the law often recognizes as trademark infringement — but exist in something of a gray zone, often not quite illegal but a little gross-feeling all the same. Marketing a product as a dupe has a powerful effect: descriptions like 'alternative' or 'imitation' just don't have the same pull Marketing a product as a dupe has a powerful effect: descriptions like 'alternative' or 'imitation' just don't have the same pull. A dupe shouldn't just be less expensive than the apparent original — it also must be an adequate substitute, whether that means they look the same, feel the same, or do (roughly) the same thing. The buyer doesn't want to simply get a good deal; they want to feel like they stumbled into a secret, like they pulled a fast one on the companies charging more than what's right. '[The thinking is] a little bit of an 'I deserve it,'' Alexandra J. Roberts, a professor at Northeastern University School of Law who has written about the dupes market, says. ''It's not my fault the economy is the way it is, and if I want nice things, I should be able to get them and get them cheap.'' Some industries, like beauty, have a long tradition of churning out similar (sometimes cheaper) products, and for good reason: favorite lipstick shades get discontinued, formulas get reworked, and some products don't work for all skin types. In post-WWII Japan, craftsmen and fashion lovers meticulously re-created American garments brought over by soldiers that were out of reach for young shoppers. Some have argued that Japanese brands iterated on — and then perfected — Americana style. Now dupes have spread to just about every industry imaginable, and they aren't just comparisons created by shoppers; Roberts notes that brands and retailers have called their products 'dupes' as a promotional tactic. (Here's Whole Foods' TikTok account calling its house-brand foods 'dupes,' for example.) But there's a word-of-mouth quality pervasive in dupe content — 'I saw someone else post about this viral dupe' is a common opening hook to videos that have racked up millions of views online. Dupe content is so popular that simply posting about potential alternatives can be a whole career for influencers. Take the curious case of two Amazon influencers engaged in a bitter legal fight over allegations of unlawful copying: both women regularly promote products that are look-alikes for higher-end items. They earn a commission each time a viewer purchases an item through their affiliate links, whether that's a handbag 'inspired' by a luxury version or sofas designed to mimic a style popular among the ultra-wealthy. They profit off the veneer of a lifestyle — and a house full — of opulence, while accusing the other of biting their vibe. It's not just that the products they push are often diluted versions of an original; even the influencers themselves are basically dupes, an endless game of telephone that carries, copies, and eventually distorts and replaces the original reference or design. It's not entirely surprising that our physical goods have come to mirror the digital content that sandwiches our purchases. The websites that compete to bring us information (and scoop up our traffic) have grown to look nearly indistinguishable from one another. Social media recommendation algorithms depend on scale and similarity, not originality: they feed users more of the same based on finely tuned preferences. That repetition has escaped the containment of digital worlds. The web has become a drumbeat of derivative works and characters repackaged in mind-numbing — and sometimes creepy — ways. Now it has infiltrated our living rooms, closets, and pantries, the very contours of our lives. When Ho's skort was first ripped off by Shein, the popular ultra-cheap Chinese retailer, she joined the ranks of knitwear designers, artists, stained-glass artisans, and others who've seen their work wind up on fast-fashion sites. 'You need to copyright this!' is a common response to businesses that find their products have been copied by bigger companies, but those who do pursue this route might find that the law is more complicated than they imagined. Unlike traditional counterfeits and copyright violations — a handbag covered in the Louis Vuitton logo but sold for just a few dollars, for example, or a copyrighted photograph printed on a T-shirt — dupes are not as straightforward, at least legally. The Pirouette Skort dupes don't claim to be Popflex products, and they don't include the Popflex name, logo, or branding, making a trademark claim moot. There's no obviously copyrightable artwork on something like Ho's skort. When it comes to fashion, the bulk of designers' work is not protectable When it comes to fashion, the bulk of designers' work is not protectable, says Roberts. Elements like logos or artwork on designs, and trade-dress protections that cover distinctive product design — like specific stitching on Vans shoes, for example — are 'mostly exceptions to the rule,' Roberts says. If a random online storefront is using a brand's copyrighted image to promote its look-alike products, that's a straightforward DMCA takedown. For dupes, it's not as simple. The nuance between what's allowed and what isn't means that the public debate is often emotionally charged and convoluted — sometimes simply vibes-based. 'Is this dupe OK?' isn't just a question of IP law, but is viewed through a series of overlapping political, social, and ethical arguments. It can quickly spiral into conversations about whether poor people deserve nice things; whether a design is unique enough to warrant protection; and whether the business owner is deserving of sympathy or ridicule. It's a legal question filtered through a moral lens, and the jury is made up of any social media user who happens across a video or post about a dupe. It doesn't help that the language we use to describe two things that look alike is itself extremely muddy: 'dupe,' 'knockoff,' 'counterfeit,' and 'copy' are often used interchangeably even when they have distinct meanings. Discussion of dupes also tends to be framed in black-and-white terms; they're either perfectly above board, even righteous (a lower price point means expanded accessibility), or they're unethical and dangerous. 'Between those two poles, there is some gray area,' Roberts says. Some companies purposely toe the line of infringement while still technically being in the clear. Some design elements — rugby shirts in classic colors — are so standard and widely sold that no one entity can realistically 'own' them. And often, only a portion of a design is protected: courts have found that the iconic red soles of Christian Louboutin shoes are only a protected trademark when they're applied to shoes of a contrasting color, for example. An all-red shoe with a red sole to match? Well, that doesn't infringe. One way Ho has tried to protect her designs is through design patents. Seven of her designs, including the Pirouette Skort and the Corset Pirouette Dress, have received design patents, which protect how things look, as opposed to utility patents, which protect how things work. Design patents are historically popular in the fashion industry, but their use has expanded dramatically into tech in the wake of Apple v. Samsung. The web pages for Ho's design-patented products boast a design-patent disclaimer, a digital version of a 'keep out' sign. On the page for the skort: 'The Pirouette Skort is a Patented Design (patent no. US D1,010,983 S) created by Cassey Ho. All artwork and materials associated with the Pirouette Skort design are protected under the law.' It took Ho about a year to secure a patent for the widely duped skort, in a process that involved doing lots of research to demonstrate to the US Patent and Trademark Office that her product is, in fact, unique. She also paid extra to have her application fast-tracked using a 'Rocket Docket'; without shelling out to have it expedited, she would be waiting for nearly two years. In order to secure a design patent for the skort, Ho paid the USPTO $1,344 (about half of that, $640, was for the Rocket Docket to expedite the application; the rest covered the filing, design search, examination, and issue fees). Once you factor in attorney fees, each patent ends up costing thousands of dollars, Ho says. 'It's a very expensive cost for me, but it's extremely powerful, because once I get [the patent], it's much easier to take the infringing product off of Amazon and certain platforms,' Ho says. 'Without it, it was almost like they wouldn't even listen to you.' The Pirouette Skort copycats are enticing. The online pictures look just like the original, because many of the images are the original, pulled straight from Ho's website and lightly edited. (Many shoppers likely don't realize they are looking at stolen images.) Listings often have detailed size charts, fabric composition information, and plenty of reviews exalting the quality for the price. I picked two listings on AliExpress from two different storefronts and hit checkout: one skirt from Gym Fitness Expert Store ($16.99) and another from Topmoon Store ($9.52). I also bought the original ($60) to compare. When it comes to dupes, what is promising online often ends up disappointing in the harsh light of day When it comes to dupes, what is promising online often ends up disappointing in the harsh light of day. The spandex waistband on the Popflex original is soft and pliable, what you'd want in a piece of activewear. The skirt is full and flouncy, likely because it uses more mesh fabric yardage than the AliExpress versions to create the gathered tiers. The stitching is neat — no loose threads — and the shorts underneath are a better fit thanks to a more detailed design. Strangely, the two AliExpress skirts are identical down to the unbranded inner care tag despite being from different storefronts — possibly made in the same factory or by the same manufacturer and listed on different storefronts for different prices. The AliExpress dupes, even with their differences, would perhaps be passable if you just wanted the general look of the original Pirouette Skort, but holding them in my hands, it's clear which one is 'real.' The impostors are stiff, oddly proportioned, and inappropriately short. I could not go to the grocery store in them, much less play tennis. They would probably look fine in a photo on social media, though. Ho's securing of design patents is a good strategy in some ways, Roberts says. But it's slow compared to the breakneck pace of ultrafast fashion. '[Shein and Temu] come out with so much stuff so quickly, like within days or hours of … something [going] viral because Taylor Swift wore it. They just churn it out instantly,' Roberts says. 'By the time you get the gears moving and the mechanism in place to try to stop them, they've moved on to the next thing.' Indeed, the AliExpress listings I purchased the dupes from have since disappeared — but plenty more have taken their place. People looking for a less-expensive version of the real thing don't have to look too far: a simple search on Shein for 'Popflex' delivers several listings with edited versions of Popflex's product shots. In one of the more disturbing instances, a video that Ho posted on social media of her modeling the skort was used in an Amazon listing — except her face had been replaced with another woman's, perhaps using AI, resulting in a deepfake ad for a copycat product. 'Amazon strictly prohibits counterfeit and IP infringing products in our store. We have proactive measures in place to prevent counterfeit or infringing products from being listed, and our advanced technology continually scans our catalog for potential counterfeit, fraud, and abuse,' Amazon spokesperson Juliana Karber told The Verge in an email. Brands can enroll in an Amazon program that helps detect and report potential infringements; Karber says Amazon has 'taken action' based on Popflex's use of the tool. 'There is a distinction between IP infringing products and alternatives to brand-name products. Amazon's wide selection includes alternatives to brand-name products, which exist across categories and retailers, but do not violate a particular brand's IP,' Karber says. Amazon itself acknowledges that a 'dupe' — in its current expansive and messy definition — isn't black and white. It's easy to find look-alikes and claim infringement; it's harder to actually litigate it. In November 2023, a Chinese home goods company called AccEncyc (pronounced 'accents') got a vague email from Amazon out of the blue with troubling news: there was an issue with the closet hanging hooks it was selling, and the listing was removed. Not just that, but the funds in its seller account had also been frozen, and it was unable to withdraw its earnings. The details were scarce. It wasn't like AccEncyc was getting rich on the hooks — in a legal filing, the company said it had sold less than $500 worth of the item — but now it was caught up in federal design patent infringement litigation, with a temporary restraining order upending its business. Even though the Amazon listing for the hooks in question was removed, AccEncyc's other products were still for sale on the platform, meaning earnings kept growing even though the company couldn't withdraw the money from its account, says Timothy A. Duffy, an attorney based in the Chicago area who represents AccEncyc. The money held in AccEncyc's Amazon account eventually swelled to nearly $50,000 and stayed tied up for months. Overnight, AccEncyc's Amazon business was thrown into disarray, in a case that is still ongoing. And though the company didn't know it yet, it was one of dozens of online storefronts getting swept up in a new legal strategy going after alleged dupers. The entity suing AccEncyc was Jacki Easlick LLC, a company founded by a fashion and accessories designer who used to work in product development for fashion brands like Vera Bradley and Kenneth Cole, according to Easlick's LinkedIn. Easlick claimed that AccEncyc and the other sellers named in the suit were ripping off the Tote Hanger, a two-sided hook with a corkscrew middle portion that holds handbags from a closet rod, for which Easlick obtained a design patent in 2013. But the suit wasn't the typical patent infringement case: in one fell swoop, Easlick's company was able to take legal action against 67 alleged infringers simultaneously and not just get products taken down, but bring many of their businesses to a grinding halt. All of this happened before AccEncyc could even hire a lawyer. Even the people and entities named as defendants often do not know they are being sued Lawsuits like Easlick's have become something of a trend with rights owners trying to protect their intellectual property, or, depending on the case, hoping to knock out competing storefronts that they assert infringe on their IP. The cases are referred to as 'Schedule A' cases, named after the separate form filed to the court that lists the defendants being sued. It's standard that the complaint and/or the Schedule A form is filed under seal, meaning there isn't the same public transparency into the case as other federal suits might have. Even the people and entities named as defendants often do not know they are being sued; some are served notice via emails that sometimes even look scammy, like emails being signed off by 'Attorneys of Luke Combs.' Easlick's suit naming 67 defendants is relatively small potatoes — similar suits have named hundreds of defendants on their Schedule A forms. For rights holders, it's a cheap and fast way to cast a wide net. 'It has swamped normal design-patent litigation,' Sarah Fackrell, a professor at Chicago-Kent College of Law at the Illinois Institute of Technology and a design-patent expert, says of Schedule A cases. Fackrell, who detailed the phenomenon in a piece for Harvard Law Review, says that while it appears that more of these suits deal with trademark infringement, new design-patent lawsuits are often Schedule A cases. 'If people want to take part in this [but] they don't have any IP so far, you could go get a design patent pretty quickly,' Fackrell says. 'Then all of a sudden [they can] start shaking down people on Amazon. Because that's what this is — it's a shakedown scheme.' Easlick's suit, filed in the Western District of Pennsylvania, accuses the defendants of duping consumers into thinking the hooks were authentic products from Easlick's company even when they weren't; that the alleged copycats were 'poorly manufactured products' that risked 'injury and disappointment from the confused customers'; and that Easlick's company was 'suffering irreparable and indivisible injury' and 'substantial damages' thanks to the alleged impostor handbag hooks that were for sale on sites like Amazon, eBay, and Walmart. Duffy is based in the epicenter of Schedule A cases: the Northern District of Illinois, where, by one count, 88 percent of these lawsuits were filed. Thousands of these cases have been filed in the Northern District of Illinois; Duffy says he's worked on at least 50 Schedule A cases in just the last year and a half, and that there are 'easily' several hundred of them coming through the court each year. Fackrell has theories about why so many Schedule A cases go through the Northern District of Illinois, but declined to elaborate on the record; one simple answer she offered is that law firms appear to be continuously filing cases there because some judges let them do it. Why judges allow it is a separate (and unresolved) matter. '[Having] hundreds of defendants, hundreds of thousands of dollars — usually a federal case like that would take a couple of years to sort out,' Duffy says. But using the Schedule A tactic puts plaintiffs at an advantage. 'These things get processed like Oreo cookies in a factory.' The Schedule A litigation tactic — at least as it is functioning now — is so stacked against defendants that even weaker claims of alleged infringement can get through. Most of the defendants named are based in China, Duffy says, and are unable to pull together a legal team in time for hearings. 'All of a sudden they get an email in a language they can't really read that says, 'Your Amazon account is frozen. Call these lawyers,'' Duffy says of clients he represents. 'You've got to call a lawyer in Chicago and somehow respond to a federal court case if you want your biweekly Amazon payment to come out.' That AccEncyc hired an attorney to defend itself is rare; Duffy says it's typical that at hearings before a judge, none of the dozens or hundreds of defendants are represented at all. Attorneys for Easlick initially said they would work to set up an interview, but eventually stopped responding to The Verge's request for comment. Along with asset freezes, rights owners have won default judgments far surpassing any money the alleged infringers made from selling their products Critics of the Schedule A tactic also point to the extraordinary forms of relief plaintiffs have been able to secure — sometimes before the accused even understands they're being sued at all, raising concerns that the defendants named in these suits are not getting due process. Along with asset freezes, rights owners have won default judgments far surpassing any money the alleged infringers made from selling their products. In a 2024 Schedule A trademark case, an Australian woman was one of hundreds of people and businesses sued for allegedly infringing the Grumpy Cat trademark — the viral internet feline whose litigious owners have milked the IP for years. The Guardian reported in April that the woman was ordered to pay $100,000 for a single T-shirt she sold with a cartoon cat printed on it, and also had $600 removed from her PayPal account without warning. Her earnings on the shirt totaled $1.87. The actual Grumpy Cat (real name: Tardar Sauce) died in 2019 at age 7. 'The Schedule A model allows a plaintiff to extract more money from defendants than they would be able to in a full and fair adjudication,' Fackrell writes in her Harvard Law Review piece. 'And it allows them to do so at a much lower cost.' In the Easlick case, only after some of the defendants hired lawyers did the judge take a closer look at the infringement claims. In reality, Easlick's bag hooks and the other hooks are not that similar: many of the alleged infringements are different colors and obviously different shapes. 'As can be plainly seen, the hooks sold by AccEncyc lack the 'corkscrew' twist in the middle of the hook and the ball-shaped ends on plaintiff's design,' Duffy wrote in a response filed to the court. The judge agreed, finding that AccEncyc's hook was not substantially the same as Easlick's patented design. AccEncyc's money in Amazon that was quickly frozen without question took two and a half months to be released. Easlick is appealing the decision to the Federal Circuit; an amicus brief was filed in the case on behalf of Fackrell and other experts. Some of the Schedule A cases Duffy has seen have gone 'overboard,' going after small businesses — especially those based in China — that are being unfairly generalized as counterfeiters looking to deceive shoppers, he says. Duffy believes AccEncyc's case could set an important precedent. 'It just goes to show you the danger of having cases like these that are not thoroughly litigated. Usually one side doesn't even show up,' he says. AccEncyc does not care if it sells handbag hooks or not. But the fate of its case could determine whether others can in the future. There are signs that judges are beginning to look more critically at Schedule A cases. In a stunning move in June, a judge in the Northern District of Illinois effectively froze all Schedule A cases in front of him, pending further review of how the court was dealing with them. The judge specifically listed practices like the sealing of cases, the temporary restraining orders, the bundling of multiple defendants, and the fact that cases proceed without one side involved — in other words, all the things that make Schedule A cases especially attractive to plaintiffs. 'Perhaps [the judge] will decide that … these things should keep going, and he's going to keep granting these things and keep proceeding as usual,' Fackrell says. 'But the fact that he's concerned enough to pause everything is really, really, really extraordinary.' Duffy and Fackrell both acknowledge that the explosion of Schedule A litigation exists in a world that is awash in copycat items or products that are very similar, if not identical. There are indeed companies — both foreign and domestic — that infringe on IP rights, and brands have valid concerns. Online shopping has become a dumping ground for cookie-cutter junk, galvanized by the limitless shelf space of web-based storefronts. The Northern District of Illinois has similarly been inundated with what some might call garbage legal filings. If you are selling something online and competing with an endless barrage of similar products, it pays to be fast and cheap and to cast as wide a net as possible — whether you are selling handbag hooks and suction cups on Amazon or you are looking for a legal intervention to the China-based sellers who are suddenly your competition. The breakneck pace of e-commerce means that just about anything goes, whether you're the plaintiff or the one being sued. In this way the two sides are not so different. Of all the viral dupes that have been shoved onto my digital feeds, nothing caused commotion quite like the 'Wirkin,' or the Walmart Birkin. For around $80, shoppers could purchase an Hermès Birkin look-alike from and before long, explainers, reviews, comparisons, and think pieces abounded. The Birkin is not just a flex to prove you are fashionable; it is so hard to get that it's a status symbol even among rich people. (Hermès is currently being sued by shoppers that allege the company only sells Birkins to people who have racked up a 'sufficient purchase history.') Now a serviceable look-alike was for sale at Walmart, the very antithesis of exclusivity and affluence. To some, the Wirkin was revenge on the 1 percent, a liberatory moment for the rest of us who are now free to carry the clunky handbags ourselves (albeit made of plastic, not leather). 'Walmart making the Birkin bag irrelevant and obsolete is literally one of the best things that happened in 2024,' one TikTok begins. 'Luxury is coming to an end,' someone else commented. The language of dupes as empowerment — even as a class equalizer — is everywhere. a startup that 'scans the web for visually similar products,' puts it like this: 'You can keep shopping like a normie, taking prices at face value and meekly accepting that you're limited by your bank account. Or, you can use Dupe to find lookalikes you can actually afford.' The ethos is one of relentless hacking, where shoppers' job is to pull one over on the brands that 'outsmart' them with 'overpriced' product offerings. Finding something cheaper elsewhere isn't just a pastime. It's a noble way to fight back against greedy companies, asserts. But whether it's luxury handbags or designer furniture, someone always profits, and it is never the shopper But whether it's luxury handbags or designer furniture, someone always profits, and it is never the shopper. The Wirkin didn't sink Hermès at all — in fact, profits were up 15 percent in 2024 at the fashion house, and the Wirkin was but a footnote to investors (the company's CEO, Axel Dumas, said the fake bags were 'detestable'). Fake Birkins are less likely to eat into Hermès' profits than they are to serve as a kind of advertisement for the company, dangling on the arms of shoppers who believe they are opting out of — rather than buying into — the allure of a purse that costs more than an SUV. on the other hand, could only function in an internet filled with repetition: the company is essentially an elaborate affiliate linking operation, and it makes a commission every time a user purchases a product using Dupe's personalized link. As long as consumers have endless access to thousands of options of near-identical products, there is no bottom; spits out alternatives for $1,800 Isamu Noguchi lamps as well as flimsy $22 phone cases. (The startup was sued in 2024 by Williams-Sonoma Inc., which accused of deceptive advertising.) Bobby Ghoshal, co-founder and CEO of notes that the platform also surfaces more expensive options along with cheaper alternatives. 'For us, it's about consumer choice,' Ghoshal says. Ghoshal, who describes himself as a furniture collector and enthusiast, believes can 'kindle [a] fire' within shoppers who appreciate upscale design and aesthetics but cannot presently afford it. Maybe a $7,000 Eames chair is out of reach for a fresh college graduate, but they can stomach shelling out a few hundred dollars for a knockoff, he said. Ghoshal is careful to describe not just as a search engine for dupes, but as an avenue for tastemaking: by sitting in their living room on an Eames look-alike and ottoman, the shopper begins to lust after the real thing, the thinking goes. But using to find something more expensive is at odds with how Ghoshal and his team market it: why would someone want to splurge on the 'real' thing if they could get a dupe for less? If a dupe is just a temporary Band-Aid on an aching desire for something you covet, then no level of resemblance will make you forget the original. Used in this way, strikes me not so much as a cheat code as it is adding to the ever-expanding list of things you desire. It is a way to spend money, not save it. The internet is built on repetition, and its main characters ascend based on their replicability: nobody wants to see your outfit or your desk setup if they can't also go out and buy your life (or copies of it) for themselves. From coffee shops and beige homes to entire neighborhoods in the cultural capitals of the world, the internet has fueled formulas for living, the rules of which are molded by the endless scroll of recommended content. Many people's experience of the web is of floating heads on their phone screen talking about the same topics, hawking the same products, and following the same career paths. They vlog from their puffy-cloud sofas that are meant to evoke a different, more expensive couch that celebrities like — except they are made by companies with names like QQU, HOOOWOOO, and LINSY HOME. Few have the time, money, or legal standing to take down every dupe For the most part, original products and their dupes go on existing next to each other, taking turns appearing in targeted ads and influencer videos in a sort of uneasy equilibrium: everyone knows it's happening, but few have the time, money, or legal standing to take down every dupe. Ho, preternaturally gifted at riding the internet wave thanks to her years spent online, seems to have figured out a powerful (and effective) tactic outside the courtroom: good old public shaming. 'HELP. I'm being silenced!!' Ho captioned a video from February. In the clip, viewed more than 5 million times on TikTok, she says a dupe of the Pirouette Skort was for sale on Nordstrom Rack — it was even available in pastel purple, like the one Taylor Swift wore, except made by the brand X by Gottex. In the video, Ho says that after her team sent Nordstrom and X by Gottex cease and desist letters, X by Gottex's lawyers sent her an email threatening legal action if she pursued 'any further infringement allegations.' Nordstrom and X by Gottex did not respond to The Verge's questions about the incident. (Because the case did not proceed to court, there is no ruling on whether the X by Gottex version did indeed infringe on Ho's design patent. Nevertheless, the skort does appear to be quite similar to Popflex's Pirouette Skort — the X by Gottex item was marketed as the Tutu Skort.) After Ho posted the video, angry fans flooded Nordstrom's comment section on Instagram and reported that the item appeared to be unavailable for purchase shortly after Ho posted about it. The incident, of course, has not put an end to the Popflex dupes; in fact, part of Ho's professional brand as a business owner is that she aggressively goes after designs she believes copy her products. She regularly writes on her blog about the dupes she encounters, and every high-profile incident she discusses on her social pages is both a call-out and a marketing opportunity: another company making a look-alike product is the perfect moment for Ho to tell consumers why her designs are better. She says she even offered Nordstrom the option to carry the Popflex skort — an 'enemies to lovers arc,' as she put it. So far, she says that hasn't happened. The Popflex Skort and its endless clones are the physical manifestations of the experience of being online, where copying is good for business rather than a mark of theft. 'Jumping on trends' is part of the job of an influencer, and brands must do the same to seem relevant, relatable, and current. The popularity of the Pirouette Skort was bolstered by the same systems of influencers, recommendation algorithms, and frictionless shopping that turbocharged the copies Ho now fights against. The Pirouette Skort takes the textures and culture of the internet and brings it offline, where there are untold numbers of young women who are wearing the (mostly) same lilac purple mesh skort. Whether it is the 'real' version or a look-alike doesn't matter so much — these are all just the Viral Taylor Swift Skirt now. If imitation is the highest form of flattery, digital dupes escaping into the real world is a perverse compliment to Ho and countless others who've seen the same happen to their designs. If you are a designer who believes you are being ripped off, maybe the best you can do is ride the wave until the next viral thing comes around (surely it will) with the hope that eventually your imitators will get bored and move on to something else. At that point, perhaps your creation becomes your own again, and it can sink or swim on its own merit — it can just be a normal skirt, finally unmoored from its replicability.

Taylor Swift's master plan worked
Taylor Swift's master plan worked

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Taylor Swift's master plan worked

The pop star's fans vowed to listen to only "Taylor's Versions" when her catalog was sold. They no longer have to choose. When news broke in May that Taylor Swift bought back the rights to the master recordings of her first six albums, her close friend and producer Jack Antonoff posted of video of himself and Swift lip-syncing together to "Getaway Car" from her 2017 album Reputation — the only album she is yet to completely rerecord — writing, "rep forever guilt free listening!' One week after Swift announced the purchase, the album landed in the top five of Billboard's 200, and its Spotify streams jumped 175%. Meanwhile, streams of the original version of Speak Now, released in 2010, spiked 430%, and streams for Swift's debut self-titled album from 2006 rose 220%. 'It was a full boycott for a long time,' Chelsea Tanagretta, a 40-year-old Swiftie from San Diego tells Yahoo of her decision not to listen to Reputation. So the moment Tanagretta found out that Swift was the proud owner of her original recordings, she hit play on 'Dress,' her favorite song from the album. It felt like a win for both Swift and Tanagretta. 'It's like watching your friend achieve their ultimate goal,' she recalls. 'It was a very proud moment.' Tanagretta is among millions of Swift fans who stopped listening to the original albums after Swift encouraged them to embrace her Taylor's Versions instead. Swift launched these rerecordings to reclaim control of her first six albums from Scooter Braun, her longtime industry rival, who gained ownership of her catalog when he acquired her former record label, Big Machine, in June 2019. Swift, who once accused Braun of 'incessant, manipulative bullying' in a widely circulated Tumblr post described losing control of her masters as her 'worst-case scenario.' By rerecording and releasing her music in the form of Taylor's Versions, Swift intended to reclaim ownership and diminish the financial worth of Braun's acquisition. Swifties quickly rallied behind her, turning their streaming choices into a gesture of solidarity. Now that Swift owns her masters outright, those same fans are confronting a new listening landscape, one that's no longer about choosing sides in a feud, but about navigating a doubled catalog, shifting habits, and what, if anything, ethical consumption means now. 'Clash of the titans' Plenty of artists who preceded Swift have tried to get their fans to care about artists' rights and the issue of ownership, including Prince and Van Morrison, music journalist Alan Light tells Yahoo. The English rock band Squeeze even rerecorded their top hits for a new album called Spot the Difference in 2010, only for a majority of their fans to say they much preferred the originals, Light says. In fact, no other musician who took up the issue of artists not owning their master recordings had much success rallying their fans to support their efforts, at least not compared to Swift. That's because Swift turned what might normally be considered a business dispute into an ethical debate, Paul Booth, a professor of media and pop culture at DePaul University, explains. 'She didn't explicitly say, 'Don't stream the originals,' but her messaging — especially around ownership and exploitation — created a moral framework that fans internalized,' he tells Yahoo. Light agrees. 'The fact that she played out the ownership dispute so publicly and so personally made it into this clash of the titans thing with Scooter Braun,' he says. So even though the contract Swift signed with Big Machine Records — and the offer it made for her to earn back her masters — were standard for the industry, fans saw the whole debacle as deeply unfair to Swift and gladly took up her cause. To them, it wasn't just business. It was personal — political, even. 'This felt like another example of corrupt and broken systems that cheat working people out of fair opportunities,' Mel Cairo, a 29-year-old Swiftie who works as a consultant in New York City, tells Yahoo. 'Even the most powerful woman in the world, with all the money in the world, couldn't escape it. If the system was fair, she could've bought her music back in 2019.' 'A cause we all had a stake in' Like Tanagretta, Cairo promptly stopped listening to the original versions of the six albums Swift did not own outright once Braun bought them — Taylor Swift, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989 and Reputation — an experience she says was easy given how worthwhile and exciting Swift made the rerecordings. Each new album arrived packed with songs Swift had left off the original releases, and fans quickly embraced these so-called 'vault' tracks, fueling frenzied debate over additions like the sprawling new 10-minute version of 'All Too Well' from Red (Taylor's Version) — released alongside an acclaimed short film Swift directed herself. 'She made it fun throughout the process. It almost felt like it was a cause that we all had a stake in,' says Cairo. For her, the hardest part of standing by Swift was having to forgo the raw vulnerability of the original Speak Now in exchange for the rerecording's more polished and mature sound. Now that Swift owns all her masters, though, Cairo is listening to the original Speak Now again and "appreciating it in new ways.' Otherwise, she gravitates toward the rerecordings because they are associated with more recent parts of her life. She especially enjoys 1989 (Taylor's Version). 'The vault songs are unreal,' she says. Annie Marcum, a fellow Swiftie and a 32-year-old veterinarian in Kansas City, Mo., appreciates the rerecorded version of 1989 for the small ways it differs from its 2014 counterpart. 'I love how much more '80s synthesizers she put in there to pay homage to that decade,' Marcum says. In fact, Marcum had so much fun listening to the new albums and detecting the subtle changes that only Swift's most dedicated fans would pick up on, she didn't even realize she'd lost the experience of listening to the originals. Well, all of them except Reputation. Unlike Tanagretta, Marcum didn't stop listening to the beloved record, and, despite what Antonoff implied in his X post, she doesn't have any guilt about it. 'I did not feel bad about listening to Reputation and giving Scooter Braun a quarter or whatever it is,' Marcum says. She recognizes that at the end of the day, 'what we're really talking about is two billionaires fighting while some people can't even put food on the table.' Some critics and fans couldn't help but note the sheer excess of Swift's campaign, pointing to the multiple color variants of each rerecording and an endless stream of exclusive merch that rolled out with each Taylor's Version release. 'Are we buying into capitalism at points? For sure. I'm under no false pretenses about that,' Marcum says. Yet those very sales are what boosted the value of Swift's rerecordings, undercut the value of the originals and ultimately enabled Swift to buy back her masters for $360 million. And Marcum views Swift's victory as an important one for artists, if only because it exposed how unfair the music industry is to the actual musicians. 'I know it's the way of the world right now,' says Marcum, 'but that doesn't necessarily mean it's right.' For Marcum and others, Swift's rerecording campaign remains a matter of right vs. wrong, of David taking on Goliath and fighting for the underdog, even though Swift bought her masters back and stands to profit massively in the end. But that doesn't matter to Cairo. She still values everything she learned about contracts and the music industry from the experience and views it as just one of several lessons Swift has taught her about ethical consumption. At the two Eras tour shows she attended, for instance, she made sure to buy the merchandise from opening acts Gracie Abrams and Paramore, respectively, because she remembered Swift saying earlier in her career how important merch sales are to new artists. Swift helping her fans better understand how the music industry works and actually motivating them to care is nothing short of game-changing, says Light. Even the pop star herself acknowledges the significance. In a letter she published on her website after news broke that she bought her 'entire life's work,' she wrote, 'I'm extremely heartened by the conversations this saga has reignited within my industry among artists and fans. Every time a new artist tells me they negotiated to own their master recordings in their record contract because of this fight, I'm reminded of how important it was for all of this to happen. Thank you for being curious about something that used to be thought of as too industry-centric for broad discussion. You'll never know how much it means to me that you cared.' 'For whatever reason, Prince was not able to do that,' Light says. 'And if younger artists are signing smarter deals because of what came out of all this, that's a significant impact.' Solve the daily Crossword

Taylor Swift's master plan worked
Taylor Swift's master plan worked

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Taylor Swift's master plan worked

When news broke in May that Taylor Swift bought back the rights to the master recordings of her first six albums, her close friend and producer Jack Antonoff posted of video of himself and Swift lip-syncing together to "Getaway Car" from her 2017 album Reputation — the only album she is yet to completely rerecord — writing, "rep forever guilt free listening!' rep forever guilt free listening! — jackantonoff (@jackantonoff) May 31, 2025 One week after Swift announced the purchase, the album landed in the top five of Billboard's 200, and its Spotify streams jumped 175%. Meanwhile, streams of the original version of Speak Now, released in 2010, spiked 430%, and streams for Swift's debut self-titled album from 2006 rose 220%. 'It was a full boycott for a long time,' Chelsea Tanagretta, a 40-year-old Swiftie from San Diego tells Yahoo of her decision not to listen to Reputation. So the moment Tanagretta found out that Swift was the proud owner of her original recordings, she hit play on 'Dress,' her favorite song from the album. It felt like a win for both Swift and Tanagretta. 'It's like watching your friend achieve their ultimate goal,' she recalls. 'It was a very proud moment.' Tanagretta is among millions of Swift fans who stopped listening to the original albums after Swift encouraged them to embrace her Taylor's Versions instead. Swift launched these rerecordings to reclaim control of her first six albums from Scooter Braun, her longtime industry rival, who gained ownership of her catalog when he acquired her former record label, Big Machine, in June 2019. Swift, who once accused Braun of 'incessant, manipulative bullying' in a widely circulated Tumblr post described losing control of her masters as her 'worst-case scenario.' By rerecording and releasing her music in the form of Taylor's Versions, Swift intended to reclaim ownership and diminish the financial worth of Braun's acquisition. Swifties quickly rallied behind her, turning their streaming choices into a gesture of solidarity. Now that Swift owns her masters outright, those same fans are confronting a new listening landscape, one that's no longer about choosing sides in a feud, but about navigating a doubled catalog, shifting habits, and what, if anything, ethical consumption means now. 'Clash of the titans' Plenty of artists who preceded Swift have tried to get their fans to care about artists' rights and the issue of ownership, including Prince and Van Morrison, music journalist Alan Light tells Yahoo. The English rock band Squeeze even rerecorded their top hits for a new album called Spot the Difference in 2010, only for a majority of their fans to say they much preferred the originals, Light says. In fact, no other musician who took up the issue of artists not owning their master recordings had much success rallying their fans to support their efforts, at least not compared to Swift. That's because Swift turned what might normally be considered a business dispute into an ethical debate, Paul Booth, a professor of media and pop culture at DePaul University, explains. 'She didn't explicitly say, 'Don't stream the originals,' but her messaging — especially around ownership and exploitation — created a moral framework that fans internalized,' he tells Yahoo. Light agrees. 'The fact that she played out the ownership dispute so publicly and so personally made it into this clash of the titans thing with Scooter Braun,' he says. So even though the contract Swift signed with Big Machine Records — and the offer it made for her to earn back her masters — were standard for the industry, fans saw the whole debacle as deeply unfair to Swift and gladly took up her cause. To them, it wasn't just business. It was personal — political, even. Been getting a lot of questions about the recent sale of my old masters. I hope this clears things up. — Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) November 16, 2020 'This felt like another example of corrupt and broken systems that cheat working people out of fair opportunities,' Mel Cairo, a 29-year-old Swiftie who works as a consultant in New York City, tells Yahoo. 'Even the most powerful woman in the world, with all the money in the world, couldn't escape it. If the system was fair, she could've bought her music back in 2019.' 'A cause we all had a stake in' Like Tanagretta, Cairo promptly stopped listening to the original versions of the six albums Swift did not own outright once Braun bought them — Taylor Swift, Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989 and Reputation — an experience she says was easy given how worthwhile and exciting Swift made the rerecordings. Each new album arrived packed with songs Swift had left off the original releases, and fans quickly embraced these so-called 'vault' tracks, fueling frenzied debate over additions like the sprawling new 10-minute version of 'All Too Well' from Red (Taylor's Version) — released alongside an acclaimed short film Swift directed herself. 'She made it fun throughout the process. It almost felt like it was a cause that we all had a stake in,' says Cairo. For her, the hardest part of standing by Swift was having to forgo the raw vulnerability of the original Speak Now in exchange for the rerecording's more polished and mature sound. Now that Swift owns all her masters, though, Cairo is listening to the original Speak Now again and "appreciating it in new ways.' Otherwise, she gravitates toward the rerecordings because they are associated with more recent parts of her life. She especially enjoys 1989 (Taylor's Version). 'The vault songs are unreal,' she says. Annie Marcum, a fellow Swiftie and a 32-year-old veterinarian in Kansas City, Mo., appreciates the rerecorded version of 1989 for the small ways it differs from its 2014 counterpart. 'I love how much more '80s synthesizers she put in there to pay homage to that decade,' Marcum says. In fact, Marcum had so much fun listening to the new albums and detecting the subtle changes that only Swift's most dedicated fans would pick up on, she didn't even realize she'd lost the experience of listening to the originals. Well, all of them except Reputation. Unlike Tanagretta, Marcum didn't stop listening to the beloved record, and, despite what Antonoff implied in his X post, she doesn't have any guilt about it. 'I did not feel bad about listening to Reputation and giving Scooter Braun a quarter or whatever it is,' Marcum says. She recognizes that at the end of the day, 'what we're really talking about is two billionaires fighting while some people can't even put food on the table.' Some critics and fans couldn't help but note the sheer excess of Swift's campaign, pointing to the multiple color variants of each rerecording and an endless stream of exclusive merch that rolled out with each Taylor's Version release. 'Are we buying into capitalism at points? For sure. I'm under no false pretenses about that,' Marcum says. Yet those very sales are what boosted the value of Swift's rerecordings, undercut the value of the originals and ultimately enabled Swift to buy back her masters for $360 million. And Marcum views Swift's victory as an important one for artists, if only because it exposed how unfair the music industry is to the actual musicians. 'I know it's the way of the world right now,' says Marcum, 'but that doesn't necessarily mean it's right.' View this post on Instagram A post shared by Taylor Swift (@taylorswift) For Marcum and others, Swift's rerecording campaign remains a matter of right vs. wrong, of David taking on Goliath and fighting for the underdog, even though Swift bought her masters back and stands to profit massively in the end. But that doesn't matter to Cairo. She still values everything she learned about contracts and the music industry from the experience and views it as just one of several lessons Swift has taught her about ethical consumption. At the two Eras tour shows she attended, for instance, she made sure to buy the merchandise from opening acts Gracie Abrams and Paramore, respectively, because she remembered Swift saying earlier in her career how important merch sales are to new artists. Swift helping her fans better understand how the music industry works and actually motivating them to care is nothing short of game-changing, says Light. Even the pop star herself acknowledges the significance. In a letter she published on her website after news broke that she bought her 'entire life's work,' she wrote, 'I'm extremely heartened by the conversations this saga has reignited within my industry among artists and fans. Every time a new artist tells me they negotiated to own their master recordings in their record contract because of this fight, I'm reminded of how important it was for all of this to happen. Thank you for being curious about something that used to be thought of as too industry-centric for broad discussion. You'll never know how much it means to me that you cared.' 'For whatever reason, Prince was not able to do that,' Light says. 'And if younger artists are signing smarter deals because of what came out of all this, that's a significant impact.'

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