Juneteenth: What you need to know about how the holiday is celebrated in the Daytona area
Juneteenth, established by President Joe Biden in 2021, is the most recently added federal holiday. Sometimes referred to as 'Black Independence Day" or "Freedom Day," Juneteenth marks the day in 1865 that news of the Emancipation Proclamation made it to enslaved people in the South — nearly three years after it was actually signed.
Here's what you need to know about Juneteenth 2025: what it is, why it's celebrated, and what's going on in the Daytona Beach area.
Non-essential federal, state, and city government offices are closed. Public and private schools may also be closed. Banks, the stock market, and the U.S. Postal Service are closed. Although many private-sector employers give employees the day off, workers in retail, grocery stores, and restaurants are not as lucky as many of those outlets are open for business.
It is always on June 19, but Juneteenth (short for "June Nineteenth") but may fall on different days each year.
The holiday marks the day when federal troops arrived in Galveston, Texas, to take control of the state and ensure that all enslaved people in Texas and the nation be freed, on June 19, 1865, History.com says.
The next year, the now-free people started celebrating Juneteenth in Texas. Its observance has continued around the nation and the world ever since. Events include concerts, parades, readings of the Emancipation Proclamation, and other celebrations of Black culture and history.
The annual Hometown Heroes Awards Banquet coincides this year with Daytona Beach's Juneteenth celebrations. Slated to take place at 7 p.m. Thursday at the Mori Hosseini Student Center on the campus of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, the soul food buffet banquet recognizes Daytona Beach-area residents who strive to make a difference in the community. For more information, visit www.juneteenthdaytona.com.
Another Juneteenth celebration will be held on Saturday at Master's Domain Church of God in Christ, located at 511 Fremont Ave. in Daytona Beach. The event is being billed as a citywide celebration and begins at 4 p.m. Several local churches, organizations, youth groups, and community leaders will be included in the event. There will be free food, vendors, and special performances from area groups. The event will also honor several people who have dedicated their lives to community service.
The Miss Juneteenth Volusia County Pageant takes place Saturday at 3 p.m. at the Babe James Community Center, 201 N Myrtle Ave., New Smyrna Beach. Pre-registration is required, but the event is free and open to the public.
Eileen Zaffiro-Kean contributed to this story.
This article originally appeared on The Daytona Beach News-Journal: Juneteenth in Daytona: Here's what to know about the federal holiday
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I ranked 13 fast-food double cheeseburgers from worst to best. My favorite was one of the cheapest.
We ranked double cheeseburgers from 13 fast-food chains to see which one reigns supreme. 7th Street Burger, the smallest chain, blew me away with its saucy smash burger. I thought In-N-Out's famous Double-Double was great value and undeniably delicious. Double the patties can mean double the deliciousness … but not all fast-food double cheeseburgers are created equal. A 2024 report from Datassential found that the average American eats about three burgers each month, and mostly orders them from quick-service restaurants. And, while chicken tenders may be the hottest fast-food menu item this year, burger chains like McDonald's and Burger King still trump most chicken chains. Over the years, I've tried practically every fast-food double cheeseburger on the market. For a definitive ranking, I tried double cheeseburgers from McDonald's, Wendy's, Burger King, Shake Shack, White Castle, Whataburger, P. Terry's, Five Guys, Cook Out, Checkers, Sonic, 7th Street Burger, and In-N-Out. Here's every fast-food double cheeseburger ranked from worst to best. My least favorite double cheeseburger was from Burger King. It cost me $4.09. The burger was under $5, but I'm not sure it was worth the price. It comes with two of the chain's beef patties, American cheese, pickles, mustard, and ketchup on a sesame-seed bun. It comes with one slice of cheese. This burger was super filling, but I liked the other burgers I tried more. Right away, I tasted the thick beef patties. The burger had traveled a little more than 15 minutes from my local Burger King to my apartment, but the meat was still juicy and the cheese nicely melted. The pickle slices were thick and crunchy, and I enjoyed the sesame-seed bun, which added a nice textural element. But I thought there was just a little too much ketchup, which will likely vary depending on who's making your burger that day. It was also a little heavy for my liking. It filled me up a little more than I had anticipated before jumping into the rest of the burger comparison. Still, for a burger that costs just under $4, that might be more of an asset than a hindrance if you want a filling, inexpensive lunch. Next was Wendy's double cheeseburger, which the chain calls a Double Stack. I ordered it for $4.49. It was about the same price as the burgers from McDonald's and Burger King, though it landed squarely in the middle in terms of value. A Wendy's double cheeseburger comes with two junior-size hamburger patties, American cheese, ketchup, mustard, pickles, and sweet onion. The toppings looked a little stingy, and they were clustered in the middle of the sandwich. I would have liked to see them more spread out. The burger bun was fluffy and light, and the toppings had a ton of flavor. But I had to get a few bites in to reach the toppings in the center. The toppings themselves were amazing. I thought the pickles were the most flavorful out of the burgers I tried, and I liked the use of an onion ring rather than diced onion, although I would've liked more. The McDonald's double cheeseburger cost me $5.99. It was slightly more expensive than Wendy's version but had more toppings. It came with an extra slice of American cheese plus chopped onions, and I thought it was still relatively affordable. The double cheeseburger from McDonald's comes with two beef patties, pickles, chopped onions, ketchup, mustard, and two slices of American cheese. I was interested to see if the added toppings would amp up the flavor. I thought the ingredients came together well in this burger, but the bun was a little lackluster. The bun held everything together and was a good size, but it was a little too soft and didn't have a lot of flavor on its own. But I enjoyed the amount of condiments and didn't find them overpowering. The chopped onions added a lot of flavor, and the burger patties were juicy despite being thinner than the Burger King ones. I liked the added cheese, but didn't think it was necessary. Next up was the double-meat Whataburger with cheese. It costs $8.75 at a Whataburger in Austin, excluding tax and fees. I ordered it with a large bun, American cheese, grilled peppers and onions, pickles, and ketchup. The burger was a decent size and I could see the gooey cheese peeking out from underneath the soft potato bun. Unlike the other double cheeseburgers, this burger had sliced jalapeño peppers that I imagined would add quite the kick. The ingredients definitely set this burger apart from the others. I thought the burgers had a delightfully crispy texture to them, and the toppings added a ton of flavor. The bun was light and fluffy, but I did think the burger patties could have been a little thicker and juicier. Coming in ninth was the double cheeseburger from P. Terry's Burger Stand, a regional chain I visited in Austin. The burger cost $5.25, making it one of the cheaper burgers I tried. Despite being less expensive than the Whataburger double cheeseburger, the P. Terry's burger was larger. I ordered it with pickles, onions, ketchup, mustard, and American cheese. I again thought the cheese could have been more melted, but the size definitely made up for that small detail. One of the benefits of ordering from P. Terry's is that you can easily customize your burger and add a number of toppings, including grilled onions, the chain's special sauce, tomato, lettuce, and more. I thought the burgers were juicy and the pickles had a tart crunch to them. The bun was slightly underwhelming, but I thought it was an excellent, large burger with tons of flavor, especially for the low price. I also thought the mustard really came through and added a lot to the burger. The double cheeseburger from Shake Shack was the second most expensive burger I tried. I paid $13.29 for a double cheeseburger. I could customize my toppings, but I went with pickles, onions, and Shack sauce. Right away, I thought the burger was massive. The burger patties were perfectly crispy on the outside and covered in gooey melted cheese. The pickles also looked large and homemade. It was even heavy to pick up. The toppings were generous and the chain's signature Shack sauce, which is a mayo-based sauce with a slight mustard flavor, made it really tasty. The cheese was thick and perfectly melted. However, biting into the Shake Shack burger was a little overwhelming, in my opinion. The burger was huge, which was both an asset and a hindrance. I struggled to get through more than a few bites. However, despite being the second most expensive burger, I thought it was worth the price. The burger patties were much thicker than the other burgers I tried, and the toppings took it over the edge in terms of flavor. Overall, I was impressed ... but stuffed. In seventh place was the double-decker burger with cheese from Checkers. The burger has since been replaced with the Big Buford, which has all the same ingredients but a bakery-style bun instead of a sesame-seed bun. The burger costs $8.39 at my local Checkers in Brooklyn. I thought this burger was a little pricey for the size. It was smaller than my hand, though it did include a variety of toppings like tomato, lettuce, and red onion. The burger also comes with American cheese, dill pickles, ketchup, mustard, and mayonnaise on a toasted bun. The burger patties were very juicy, and the toppings tasted fresh. I also thought the American cheese was very tangy and flavorful. Overall, I enjoyed the combination of flavors. However, the price prevented this burger from ranking higher. I also tried the double cheese slider from White Castle. White Castle sliders tend to be eaten in pairs, so I ordered two. Each burger cost me $3.59, so I ended up paying $7.18. The burgers were small but packed with flavor. The burgers smelled strongly of onions and condiments the second I removed them from the bag. The amount of toppings on each burger was generous. The pickles were crunchy and flavorful. Though the burgers each had a bun sandwiched in the middle of the burger, it wasn't too bready — instead, it allowed the flavors to really come together while still being filling. I was blown away by the cheeseburgers from White Castle, a result I admittedly wasn't expecting. As the cheapest and smallest burgers, I was expecting them to be a little lackluster. However, I found that good things definitely come in small packages. The onions, condiments, and pickles were flavorful, but it was the beef that really impressed me. The small-but-mighty burger was one of the most flavorful out of the ones I tried, easy to eat, and perfectly priced. My fifth-favorite double cheeseburger was from Five Guys. Five Guys doesn't technically have a "double cheeseburger" — its regular cheeseburgers already come with two slices of cheese and two beef patties. My burger cost $13.55, excluding taxes and fees, making it the most expensive burger I tried. I was able to customize my toppings, but I ordered the burger with pickles, grilled onions, ketchup, and mustard. Right away, I noticed that the toppings were generous. The pickle slices were large, and none of the toppings cost extra to add. The burger was large without being too intimidating. I thought it was a perfect size. It required two hands to pick up and eat, but it wasn't as heavy as the burger from Shake Shack. Slices of melted American cheese coated each burger, and there wasn't so much sauce that it dripped out from underneath the sesame-seed buns. The burger patties were crispy on the outside but juicy on the inside. I thought the pickle slices were thick, crunchy, and tart. I also really enjoyed the choice of a sesame-seed bun — it added a bit of texture to each and every bite. The grilled onions also really impressed me. They were soft and almost caramelized, adding a lot of flavor that I didn't get from any other burger. My fourth-favorite double cheeseburger came from Sonic Drive-In. The SuperSonic double cheeseburger was the only burger I tried that came with lettuce and tomato. Since this was the default option, I decided to try it with these toppings rather than specifically remove them. The burger cost me $9.75, excluding taxes and fees. The burger came with a hearty serving of shredded lettuce, tomatoes, two slices of cheese, diced onions, pickles, mayonnaise, and ketchup. Unlike Sonic's quarter-pound double cheeseburger, which comes with two junior patties, the full-size burger has a combined half-pound of meat. The bun was perfectly soft but still held the sauce-covered burger together. The ingredients tasted fresh and vibrant. The tomato wasn't too watery, the lettuce was crisp, and the burgers tasted well-seasoned and juicy. Plus, the burger was a very generous size. However, despite all these accolades, I thought the price was a little steep compared to what I got from Cook Out and In-N-Out. My third-favorite double cheeseburger came from Cook Out, a regional chain I visited in South Carolina. You can order a "big double" from Cook Out any way you wish, but I ordered mine with cheese, ketchup, mustard, onions, and pickles. It cost me $4.99, not including tax. The burger came wrapped in foil and featured two juicy patties. It also had thick slices of fresh onion and large pickle spears layered on top of the burger. For the price, I thought the burger was out of this world. The cheese slices were thick and tangy, and the burger was perfectly moist and medium-rare. It was also very large, and, after already eating dinner, I struggled to get through more than a few bites, though I kept wanting to go back for more. At an amazingly low price, this burger definitely earned the second-to-top spot on my ranking. My second favorite came from 7th Street Burger, a smaller chain based in New York City. 7th Street Burger is a small chain of quick-service burger restaurants with 19 locations in New York, New Jersey, and Washington, DC. Since it opened in 2021, the chain has quickly grown a reputation for its no-frills approach to smash burgers, which feature crispy patties, gooey cheese, and the chain's signature sauce. I ordered a double cheeseburger, which comes with two beef patties, American cheese, onions, pickles, and house sauce on a Martin's potato bun. It cost $11.21, excluding tax and fees. There wasn't much customization to do for this burger — you can't order it with lettuce or tomato. However, this burger was perfect exactly as the chain designed it. The burger patties were delightfully crispy on the outside yet managed to stay juicy. Melted slices of cheese oozed between the two thin, expertly griddled, and charred beef patties, all smothered in the chain's signature sauce, a creamy, tangy take on classic burger sauce. The burger was served on a pillowy-soft potato roll, which kept things simple. There were no lettuce or tomato slices to cut through the rich, savory indulgence, but that only added to the burger's savory flavor. I didn't miss the opportunity to customize my burger with additional toppings. It was probably the best smash burger I've ever had. With pickles and onions to round out the flavor, the double cheeseburger offered a satisfying, nostalgic flavor that elevated the classic smash burger experience. In my opinion, the best double cheeseburger I tried was the famous Double-Double burger from In-N-Out. It cost me $4.90, which I thought was an excellent deal for the large burger sitting in front of me. One of the first things I noticed was how thick the burger patties were — they were much thicker than other burgers I tried at a similar price point. Most Double-Double burgers come with lettuce, tomato, onions, and spread. To keep my burger similar to the other burgers I tried, I ordered it with onions, pickles, and spread, which I thought tasted similar to Thousand Island dressing. The first thing I noticed about the In-N-Out burger was how juicy the burger patties were, followed by the incredible layers of cheese. The cheese slices were perfectly melted and coated each part of the burger, something I couldn't say about any other burger I tried. The bun was perfectly soft and held everything together perfectly, while the special spread had my mouth watering for another bite. Of all the burgers I tried, I thought the In-N-Out double cheeseburger packed the most flavor for the best price. When it came to a double cheeseburger, the West-Coast chain really nailed it. The burger was beyond flavorful, the perfect size, and, in my opinion, very good value for money. The next time I'm in a state with an In-N-Out, I know where I'll be filling my burger craving. Read the original article on Business Insider Solve the daily Crossword
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'Buy Nothing' or free groups help neighbors give (and receive) items at no cost
Naomi Serviss scored a bookshelf and a guitar stand. Michelle Wolf got three spin bikes — two for a teacher friend's classroom and one for herself. Joni Holderman got a gently used rug that retails for $1,000. They're part of a growing trend of consumers giving and getting things — for free — via local community groups that are often titled "No Buy," "Buy Nothing," or tagged with the words "Free in" and a community name, on Facebook or other web platforms. These groups provide a connection among community members and neighbors who want to give things away for free or people who are looking for items. It also helps the environment by keeping unwanted belongings out of the trash or landfill. It is a super-local gifting economy, said Naomi Serviss of North Kingstown, Rhode Island. She has received and given away countless items in Buy Nothing groups both in her current hometown and New York City. Giving away and receiving "electric treasures" Serviss is a long-time thrifter. But getting something for free is even better. When Serviss lived on Manhattan's Upper West Side, she scored what she calls free "eclectic treasures." Among them were African masks, soft sculpture art, decorative sofa pillows and even a runner rug that fit her hallway, she said. "I happily gave away brand-name raincoats, sporty hats and a wedding guest formal gown worn once to my nephew's Albany wedding eight years ago," she told USA TODAY. One of her favorite "gets" was a "stunning" red embroidered kimono, Serviss said. She mounted it on the wall of her one-bedroom apartment. "It was a thing of beauty and when it was time to relinquish it, I joyfully passed it on to an interested neighbor," she said. When Serviss and her husband moved to Rhode Island, she found a new local Buy Nothing group. Serviss gifted a new set of turquoise Ikea stoneware to a person who had posted an "ISO" or "in search of" message for kitchen supplies for her grandson's new apartment. "Coincidentally, that same member was offering a striking antique African doll," said Serviss. "When she responded to my interest, she mentioned how much her grandson loves the dishes and wanted me to have the doll!" How does a Buy Nothing or No Buy group work? The largest network of Buy Nothing groups on Facebook and via a web portal is through the Buy Nothing Project, which was founded in 2013 by two friends, Liesl Clark and Rebecca Rockefeller, in the Pacific Northwest when they saw a beach full of washed-up plastics of every shape, color and size. There were three reasons the ladies started the first group, Clark told USA TODAY in an interview: to help save the environment, to create a gifting economy to share items, and to help people connect socially with each other. "We all need each other and we can create a circular economy within our community and keep sharing our stuff, especially kids stuff and clothes," she said. The women had met on Freecycle, a longstanding web platform where people can post things they are giving away. The friends launched their own concept on Facebook, creating their first Buy Nothing Group in Bainbridge Island, Washington. Within hours, it went from the two ladies to hundreds of people. The idea has now become a worldwide social movement, with 12.85 million users in groups on Facebook and 1.5 million people participating in the BuyNothing App, which also can be accessed online at People from 44 nations have registered Buy Nothing groups on Facebook and downloads of the app come from about 193 countries, Clark said. "We never intended to grow a social movement," she said. "We intended to just solve a problem in our own community, which was the amount of plastics washing ashore." How to participate in a Buy Nothing group It costs nothing for people to participate in a Buy Nothing group. If someone wants to create a new Buy Nothing group on Facebook, it costs $10 for a license. The project then sets up the group and loads the general rules to get the group started, Clark said. Clark said there are groups on Facebook that use the Buy Nothing name and don't register, which is a violation of the trademark, but her group is not big enough to "police" it. There are also groups formed on Facebook that have similar concepts of offering free items within a community, or people who give things away on Facebook Marketplace and are not affiliated, she said. The Buy Nothing Project has also developed a mobile app and website, which is available for people who don't want to be on Facebook. People can find local groups or participate in a global group online or on the app, paying a minimal shipping fee for their free item. That helps open up the concept to people in communities that might be too small for their own group, Clark said. Save money: What is No Buy July? We explain the trend that can save you money. What are the rules of a Buy Nothing or free group? The Buy Nothing groups all agree to some general rules, including that money can't be involved and no illegal activity is allowed. But then, each group has its own rules. Michelle Wolf's group near Pleasantville, New York, asks the gifter to wait six hours before they pick a "winner." Wolf said when she's gifting something, sometimes she picks someone based on their "story" and sometimes she uses an app to pick someone randomly. Wolf "won" a spin bike when she explained that her friend, a teacher for students with disabilities, had a classroom spin bike that broke. The kids in the classroom were thrilled, and so was the gifter, Wolf said. She also got a second bike for the friend's classroom and then one for herself. Holderman said she loves the Buy Nothing group because "it transforms our mindset from one of scarcity and struggle to one of abundance and sharing." A $1,000 "free" rug The best thing Joni Holderman of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina has received in her group was an 8-by-10-feet rug from West Elm that, when she looked up the retail value, turned out to be worth $1,000. "I know it was lightly used, but it's wonderful," she said. Holderman has given away a large beach-themed dresser and a sofa, among other things. While she still donates to charities, for something like a sofa, she'd have to haul it there. Instead, someone came and got it. Holderman said she'd also rather give things away to someone grateful instead of getting some money for selling it on Facebook Marketplace. "There's that whole haggling over the price. It's almost an adversarial relationship." Free groups help people struggling in this economy The Buy Nothing community and similar groups are especially helpful in today's economy, Clark said. "Everyday people are struggling and our economy is kind of questionable where it's going to go and we want to be that safety net," said Clark. The groups connect people to each other. "They come for the stuff," Clark said, "and they stay for the community." Betty Lin-Fisher is a consumer reporter for USA TODAY. Reach her at blinfisher@ or follow her on X, Facebook or Instagram @blinfisher and @ on Bluesky. Sign up for our free The Daily Money newsletter, which will include consumer news on Fridays, here.
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Grandkids of men who experienced Japan A-bomb attacks work for peace 80 years later
HIROSHIMA, Japan -- When the United States dropped the atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945, Ari Beser's grandfather was on board both of the American B-29 bombers that carried the weapons. On the ground, Kosuzu Harada's grandfather survived both attacks. Neither of the men — U.S. radar specialist Jacob Beser and Japanese engineer Tsutomu Yamaguchi — met during their lives. But both became staunch advocates of nuclear abolishment. Decades later, that shared goal has brought their grandchildren together. Ari Beser and Harada are telling their grandfathers' linked stories, and working to seek reconciliation and understanding about an attack that continues to divide people in Japan and the United States. During this week's commemoration of the 80th anniversaries of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks, the grandchildren visited a station in Hiroshima where Yamaguchi, badly injured, boarded a train back to his hometown of Nagasaki a day after the bombing on Aug. 6, 1945. The two grandchildren then went to the Hiroshima peace park where they spoke with The Associated Press about what their grandfathers experienced during two of the 20th century's most momentous events and their consequences. Yamaguchi was 29 when he was burned severely in the Hiroshima bombing. He was in the city on a temporary assignment as a shipbuilding engineer. After Yamaguchi arrived in Nagasaki, and was telling colleagues about the attack he had witnessed in Hiroshima, the second bomb exploded. Harada first learned about her grandfather's experience of both bombs when she interviewed him for an assignment in elementary school. Yamaguchi didn't talk about his experience in public until he was 90 because of worries about discrimination. He then became a vocal activist for peace until he died in 2010. In 2013, Harada learned that the grandson of an American who was on the planes that bombed both Hiroshima and Nagasaki wanted to hear about Yamaguchi's story. 'I had mixed feelings as a family member of the survivors,' Harada said, recalling Ari Beser's first visit. Ari Beser quietly listened as Harada's mother talked about Yamaguchi. Harada and her mother were surprised when they learned that the senior Beser was exposed to radiation during his missions. 'We used to see ourselves only from the victims' perspective," she said. "We learned that war affects and ruins everyone's lives.' 'I feel it is my role to keep telling about the horror ... so that the same mistake will never be repeated," Harada said. She visits places across Japan to talk about her grandfather's story and to push for a nuclear-free world. Yamaguchi used to say that he could never forgive the U.S. government for dropping the bombs, but he had no hatred for Americans. Even as his health deteriorated, Yamaguchi still spoke of his past, holding an interview from his hospital bed. Beser, a visual journalist and producer, has since regularly visited Nagasaki, and he and Harada have become friends. Harada believes the U.S. government should formally apologize for the bombings. 'A reconciliation takes time. It's a long process which takes generations,' Harada said. When he was asked about the attacks during his first visit to Hiroshima 40 years ago, Jacob Beser didn't apologize, but said: 'I wouldn't say it was our proudest moment.' He said the world needed to make sure it doesn't happen again. At 8:15 a.m. on Aug. 6, 1945, Jacob Beser was on the bomber Enola Gay approaching Hiroshima after a seven-hour flight from the Mariana Islands. The B-29 quickly descended from 32,000 feet (nearly 10,000 meters) to 1,820 feet (about 550 meters) and then dropped the bomb. "A door was open to a new era in man's inhumanity to his fellow man,' he said in a lecture at Johns Hopkins University in 1985. Beser, who was in the back of the aircraft working as a radar specialist, said that all he saw out of the window was a 'boiling muddy mess with fires continuing to break out on the periphery.' Three days later, he was in another bomber, Bockscar, above Yamaguchi's hometown. The city was gone when he got to the window. Growing up, Ari Beser was told that his grandfather's bone cancer was presumably from his radiation exposure during the bombing missions. In 2011, Ari Beser traveled to Japan for the first time to learn more about the bombings. He has since met with many survivors and is eager to hear their stories. 'Before, I think that we all believed in the same justifications. I can't justify it anymore,' Ari Beser said about the bombings. 'For me, all I focus on is trying to convey it to people so that it doesn't happen again." Because his grandfather was on both B-29s, Ari Beser was always interested in meeting a double survivor. That led him to Harada's family 12 years ago. 'It's passing the baton and it's leaving the record … We are the keepers of memory,' Ari Beser said. He was young when his grandfather died and never got to talk with him about the bombings. 'I also want to interview him or just want to ask him so many questions' and find out if there were other options besides dropping the bomb. Despite language difficulties, the two grandchildren keep communicating and working together on projects, including a book about their grandfathers. As the world increasingly becomes a divisive place, with fighting in the Middle East and Ukraine, Ari Beser believes that his work with Harada is more important than ever. 'It makes you nervous, makes you worry because if this history repeats with today's nuclear weapons, it's almost unimaginable how much would be destroyed,' Ari Beser said.
