logo
Scientists say they have identified Earth's oldest rocks. It could reveal an unknown chapter in our planet's history

Scientists say they have identified Earth's oldest rocks. It could reveal an unknown chapter in our planet's history

CNN27-06-2025
A rocky outcrop in a remote corner of northern Quebec appears serene in its eerie isolation on the eastern shore of Canada's Hudson Bay.
But over the past two decades, this exposed remnant of ancient ocean floor, known as the Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt, has been a heated scientific battleground in the quest to identify Earth's oldest rock.
New research suggests that the geological site harbors the oldest known surviving fragments of Earth's crust, dating back to 4.16 billion years ago. It's the only rock determined to be from the first of four geological eons in our planet's history: the Hadean, which began 4.6 billion years ago when the world was hot, turbulent and hell-like.
'Rocks are books for geologists … and right now we're missing the book (on the Hadean). The Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt would be at least one page of that book, so that's why it's so important,' said geologist Jonathan O'Neil, author of the research published Thursday in the journal Science.
The Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt has been dated several times by different research groups, with widely divergent results. Most agree the rock is at least 3.75 billion years old — but that wouldn't make it Earth's oldest.
The Acasta Gneiss Complex, a group of rocks exposed along a riverbank nearly 200 miles (300 kilometers) north of Yellowknife, in northwestern Canada, is more widely agreed to be the planet's oldest geological formation. These rocks are unambiguously dated at 4.03 billion years old, marking the boundary between the Hadean Eon and the next chapter in Earth's history: the Archean. (There are older rocks on the planet — but not from the planet — that aren't part of this debate: Some meteorites are 4.5 billion years old.)
A controversial 2008 paper coauthored by O' Neil, who has been studying the site since he was a doctoral student, argued Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt was 4.3 billion years old; however, other geologists took issue with the limits of the dating techniques and how the data was interpreted. With this latest paper, O'Neil, now an associate professor at the University of Ottawa in the department of Earth and environmental sciences, aims to prove his critics wrong.
Dating rocks involves using radiometric techniques that harness the natural and spontaneous radioactive decay of certain elements in the rock, which acts as a type of clock.
O'Neil uses an hourglass analogy: Imagine counting grains of sand at the top (radioactive elements) and bottom (elements produced from radioactive decay). Knowing the speed of the flowing grains (which represents the decay rate), allows scientists to date rocks. Some of these radiometric clocks are robust and can withstand the high temperatures and pressures Earth's crust has endured over the eons, while others are more affected by these processes.
The gold standard and easiest way to date very old rock formations is with a very tough mineral known as a zircon. These tiny crystals incorporate a bit of uranium into their structure, and researchers can pinpoint their age by measuring the radioactive decay of uranium atoms, which turn into lead at a known rate.
However, the Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt — which was mapped after a geological survey in the 1960s but first attracted scientific attention in the early 2000s — contains very few rocks bearing zircons as they rarely occur in specimens with lower levels of silicon, including ones that were once ancient ocean crust.
'We tried to find zircons. They're just not there, or formed at a later time during the metamorphism or cooking of the rocks,' O'Neil said. Metamorphic rock is that which has been transformed by heat, pressure or other natural forces.
Instead, for the new study, O'Neil turned to the rare earth element samarium, which decays into the element neodymium. It's a technique that has been used to date meteorites because the elements were only active more than 4 billion years ago.
'The controversy about the age is that some people believe the clock we use is not good or it was affected (by other geological processes),' he said.
'It's a debate about what exactly we are measuring in time because we can't use zircon, and some people in my field would only be convinced by zircons.'
O'Neil said the technique was valuable in this case because it's possible to measure the decay of two variants, or isotopes, of samarium into two distinct isotopes of neodymium — essentially getting two clocks for the price of one. The latest paper focused on a specific type of metamorphic ancient rock — metagabbroic intrusions — sampled from within the belt, and the two data points converged on the same age: 4.16 billion years old.
This age, the study concluded, meant that 'at least a small remnant' of Hadean crust was preserved in the Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt, which would provide invaluable insights into Earth's origins and how life formed.
Nearby rocks from the same location may preserve various signatures of life from the eon, as well as microfossils, tiny filaments and tubes formed by bacteria, noted Dominic Papineau, a senior research scientist at the Institute of Deep-sea Science and Engineering at the Chinese Academy of Sciences. He wasn't involved in the latest research but has studied fossils from the site.
'The rocks that were newly dated come from the mantle, which is not thought to harbour life or be habitable for life,' said Papineau, who is also an honorary professor of Precambrian biogeochemistry and exobiology at the University College London.
'However, the adjacent sedimentary rocks are now confirmed to be at least 4,160 million years old, which is 'only' about 400 million years after the accretion of our planet and of the Solar System,' he added in an email.
'Evidence of very early life in these sedimentary rocks indicate that the origin of life can take place very quickly (relatively speaking), which increases the probability that life is common and widespread in the universe.'
It's not yet clear whether Nuvvuagittuq outcrops will become widely accepted as Earth's oldest rocks, according to other scientists who were not involved with the research.
Bernard Bourdon, a geochemist at the Lyon Geology Laboratory in France who had previously taken issue with the earliest dates for Nuvvuagittuq Greenstone Belt published by O'Neil, said he was 'more convinced' by the latest work, and it was 'well improved' on previous studies.
'What is better, compared to the 2008 paper, is the fact that the two techniques … they give the same age. That's good. That's where we criticized the first results,' Bourdon, who is also research director at French scientific research body CNRS, said.
'In the end, I think there's more credibility to the age,' he said, adding that he had some 'small doubts' and would like to investigate the data more in depth.
The age of the rocks 'remains an unsolved mystery,' according to Hugo Olierook, a geoscientist and senior research fellow at Curtin University in Australia.
'In the absence of 'easy' minerals to date, they have turned to whole-rock, which is fraught with problems as whole-rock samples have multiple minerals,' Olierook said via email.
'It only takes one of these minerals to have been altered and their age 'reset' to a younger age for the whole house of cards to fall over,' he added, noting that very high and low temperatures can naturally alter the crystallization age of minerals in rock.
Very little is definitive when dealing with rocks and minerals that have complex geological histories spanning more than 4 billion years, according to Jesse Reimink, the Rudy L. Slingerland Early Career Professor of Geoscience at Penn State University.
'Even if these rocks are 'only' 3.8 billion years old, it is quite amazing that they are preserved. This current work presents more compelling data, supporting an age of 4.15 billion years ago, than that which was previously produced, which was already compelling,' Reimink said.
'The timescales are so long, and the history of these rocks and minerals is so tortured, that gleaning any primary information from them at all is pretty amazing.'
Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

China Is Building an AI Robot Uterus, and Are We Just Basically ‘Dune' Now?
China Is Building an AI Robot Uterus, and Are We Just Basically ‘Dune' Now?

Gizmodo

time5 hours ago

  • Gizmodo

China Is Building an AI Robot Uterus, and Are We Just Basically ‘Dune' Now?

In a development that completely demolishes the line between robotics and reproductive science, China's Kaiwa Technology says it has introduced humanoid robots equipped with advanced artificial womb systems. What could possibly go wrong with this line of experimentation? Well, those of you who are Dune fans know exactly where this could theoretically go: a future filled with robots that take over humanity and have to be defeated and then outlawed in order to keep civilization going. But we should back up a little before we jump right to that. Let's first look a little closer at what Kaiwa says it has done thus far. It says it has a 'late stage' prototype that combines artificial intelligence with bioengineering and mimics the hormonal and physical processes of pregnancy. The robots have biosynthetic organs that the company claims are capable of simulating gestation in a controlled environment, including feeding an embryo or fetus via liquid nutrients. Kaiwa claims its womb-endowed robots will eventually retail for about $14,000, as SlashGear reports. How to Build an Artificial Womb Kaiwa has not disclosed whether it's running tests on biological material or with human eggs, sperm, or embryos. It also does not explain how an actual baby would be born. Well, the first and most obvious thing is that a robotic uterus could easily damage or terminate a fetus if it does not work correctly. Babies are not hydroponic, after all, and depend on a complex mixture of nutrients and signals from the highly complicated placenta, which is really the workhorse of pregnancy (aside from the pregnant person carrying the fetus). Creating an AI placenta would be much more of a Holy Grail in science than a robotic womb, because it grows, changes, and expands as the fetus develops and is far more delicate and difficult to replicate. Kaiwa did not respond to a request for comment. It has not said whether it is also developing a humanoid placenta or if that is already part of the robot uterus. 'This is a revolutionary step,' Kaiwa said in a statement. 'Our robots could help scientists explore the intricacies of gestation and, someday, provide alternatives to biological reproduction.' More worrying, there have been very few reports of any ethical vetting of what Kaiwa is using to test this new technology or how advanced it is. There is serious ethical debate over the future of human reproduction and how a robotic component would affect the relationships and ownership of embryos or children conceived or delivered that way, particularly in countries like the U.S., in which some states recognize embryos as property. The pros? If true and ethically vetted, this new technology could potentially open new avenues for infertility research and reproductive assistance. It could provide surrogacy at a much reduced cost of around $14,000 (the cost of the robot) for people who can't have a child, compared to a human surrogacy fee of about $100,000 to $200,000 in the U.S. The cons? The patchwork of laws applying to reproductive tech is a changing pattern depending on the country, the region, the governing bodies (like the European Union), cultural roles, religious rules, and the rights of parenthood and surrogates. Who would own each part of the process of creating a human fetus in a robot would have to be exhaustively studied and debated, and it would very likely fall short of most definitions of bioethical standards. Who then oversees that process and enforces its rules should there be infractions is a whole other ball of legal and ethical wax. The prospect of these robots being artificially intelligent raises another important issue. Super-sophisticated robots may eventually be granted personhood status, meaning they'd be protected under the same laws as human beings. And should these robots eventually feel and experience emotions in a manner similar to humans, that would introduce yet another layer of ethical and legal complexity. An artificial womb could also help human babies survive extreme prematurity and prevent serious complications like brain injuries, lung damage, or blindness. Indeed, advances in neonatal care may drive this technology forward, regardless of any overt attempt to create a robotic uterus. Conversely, critics worry about the potential misuse or dehumanization of the gestation process, noting that artificial wombs could lead to creating 'human-like entities' without full biological rights or moral considerations. 'Pregnancy is an extremely complex process, with each step being extremely delicate and critical,' Yi Fuxian, an obstetrician at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, told Newsweek. He said the robot is 'likely just a gimmick' and that synthetic gestation has caused problems in sheep, and that 'many health risks emerge at different ages, not to mention mental health issues.' Recent reporting has found that China and South Korea's tech sectors are watching the pregnancy robot saga closely. South Korea already has robots as 10% of its workforce. In January 2024, its Ministry of Trade, Industry, and Energy unveiled the Fourth Intelligent Robot Basic Plan, which will plow $2.24 billion in public and private investments by 2030 to advance automation across most business sectors. Countries with declining birth rates like Japan and South Korea may also be major marketplaces for a synthetic uterus. South Korea has declared its lack of babies a national emergency and has been attempting to lure people into becoming parents with a new ministry focused on providing housing, immigration, and other demographic markers that may be keeping people from having any or more children. The county has already invested more than $200 billion in fertility programs over the last 18 years, but thus far the birth rate has stayed low. Maybe having a government-subsidized pregnancy robot could change that.

Accelerating Data Entry for Non-GLP Pathology Studies, Upcoming Webinar Hosted by Xtalks
Accelerating Data Entry for Non-GLP Pathology Studies, Upcoming Webinar Hosted by Xtalks

Yahoo

time12 hours ago

  • Yahoo

Accelerating Data Entry for Non-GLP Pathology Studies, Upcoming Webinar Hosted by Xtalks

In this free webinar, learn how streamlined workflows and intuitive interfaces help pathologists reduce time spent on slide review and data capture — freeing up hours for deeper analysis. Attendees will see how built-in checks, standardized terminology and smart glossaries reduce errors and ensure pathology data can be trusted throughout the study lifecycle. The featured speakers will share how efficient, flexible tools can support non-GLP pathology studies without sacrificing structure — helping study directors manage timelines, staff and results more effectively. TORONTO, Aug. 19, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- Pathologists and study directors in nonclinical research are under increasing pressure to deliver high-quality results faster, without compromising data integrity. Traditional, manual methods of data entry are too slow, error-prone and unstructured to meet the demands of today's fast-paced, high-throughput labs. That's why modern pathology teams are turning to efficient, standardized digital tools to accelerate workflows, reduce human error and improve overall productivity in conducting non-GLP pathology studies. Another goal of an optimized pathology workflow is about transforming how non-GLP pathology studies are managed, recorded and scaled for future success. With smarter digital systems, labs can gain immediate efficiency while laying the groundwork for regulatory readiness down the road. In this webinar, the featured speakers will explore how pathology teams can modernize their approach to study management with tools designed specifically for fast, intuitive and reliable histopathology workflows. For teams aiming to optimize current non-GLP processes or prepare for future GLP compliance, this session will offer practical insights to support confident progress. Join the pathology experts as they demonstrate how digital tools and workflows can: Reduce slide review and data entry time by up to 20% using streamlined digital workflows built for non-GLP environments Improve data integrity and accessibility with structured study management tools offering a single source of truth for moderated access and editing. Streamline glossary management with integrated terminology support based on CDISC ontology and intelligent search features. Manage non-GLP studies more efficiently through flexible, user-friendly platforms that support better team coordination and faster study completion Prepare labs for future GLP compliance by adopting digital tools that align with industry standards and regulatory expectations Register for this webinar to learn how digital transformation can drive efficiency and readiness across pathology studies, supporting pathologists, study directors, lab managers and more. Join experts from Instem, Chris Nichols, Senior Director; and Chris Hunter, Product Manager, Pathology Study Management, for the live webinar on Friday, September 5, 2025, at 10am EDT (4pm CEST/EU-Central). For more information, or to register for this event, visit Accelerating Data Entry for Non-GLP Pathology Studies. ABOUT XTALKS Xtalks, powered by Honeycomb Worldwide Inc., is a leading provider of educational webinars and digital content to the global life science, food, healthcare and medical device communities. Every year, thousands of industry practitioners (from pharmaceutical, biotechnology, food, healthcare and medical device companies, private & academic research institutions, healthcare centers, etc.) turn to Xtalks for access to quality content. Xtalks helps professionals stay current with industry developments, regulations and jobs. Xtalks webinars also provide perspectives on key issues from top industry thought leaders and service providers. To learn more about Xtalks visit For information about hosting a webinar visit Contact:Vera KovacevicTel: +1 (416) 977-6555 x371Email: vkovacevic@ View original content to download multimedia: SOURCE Xtalks Error in retrieving data Sign in to access your portfolio Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data Error in retrieving data

Digital Science's 2025 Catalyst Grant seeking innovations to 'see the future' with data visualization
Digital Science's 2025 Catalyst Grant seeking innovations to 'see the future' with data visualization

Yahoo

time13 hours ago

  • Yahoo

Digital Science's 2025 Catalyst Grant seeking innovations to 'see the future' with data visualization

Teams working at intersection of science, design and data could win up to £25,000 for new tech ideas LONDON, Aug. 19, 2025 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Digital Science, a technology company serving stakeholders across the research ecosystem, today launches its Catalyst Grant round for 2025 to support innovative tech ideas. Now in its 15th year, the theme for Digital Science's 2025 Catalyst Grant is: Data visualization. Up to £25,000 will be awarded to individuals or startups for their technology-driven ideas. The deadline to apply is Monday 6 October 2025. Steve Scott, Director of Portfolio Development at Digital Science, said: 'With the rapid growth of AI, data science, and open research, visualization is emerging as a vital tool to aid research impact. In today's data-rich, attention-poor world, how we understand and communicate data is just as important as what the data says. 'This year, the Digital Science Catalyst Grant challenges innovators to push the boundaries of data visualization, not just as a communication tool, but as a driver for prediction, insight, and action. 'We want to 'see the future' through data; we want visualizations to be used as a process for discovery. To do this, we're looking for game-changers who are turning raw data into intuitive stories, elegant dashboards, and predictive visuals that empower researchers, institutions, funders, and decision-makers alike.' About Catalyst Grant The Digital Science Catalyst Grant is an international initiative to support innovation in new software tools and technologies, to advance research and create meaningful change. The program supports and invests in early-stage ideas in the novel use of technology, with an award of up to £25,000 for the most promising ideas that aid research and further its impact on society. The Catalyst Grant is awarded to innovative individuals or startups without the need for a complete business or development plan. Several previous Catalyst Grant winners have developed important products and solutions within Digital Science itself. Data Visualization – the 2025 Catalyst Grant focus For Catalyst Grant 2025, Digital Science is looking for novel applications of data visualization technology that can benefit any aspect of the research ecosystem and lifecycle, and any stakeholders Digital Science serves. These include: researchers, universities, funders, industry, and publishers. We're seeking tools and technologies that: Model complex data to uncover hidden patterns, trends and predictive insights Use advanced technologies, including AI and machine learning, to uncover patterns that traditional analysis might miss Visualize high-dimensional data to improve understanding and support better decision-making Deliver intuitive web and mobile-first solutions for scientific storytelling or discovery, reducing time-to-insight Create a unique user interface (UI) or user experience (UX) for dashboards, lab tools, or clinical data systems Enable interactive exploration of real-world evidence Apply for the Digital Science Catalyst Grant The Digital Science Catalyst Grant is now open for entries. Key details: Visit the Digital Science Catalyst Grant website for full eligibility criteria and how to apply Open globally to individuals and startups with early-stage technology ideas Questions about the Catalyst Grant to be directed to: catalyst@ Deadline: 12pm BST / 7am EDT, Monday 6 October 2025. Find out more about Catalyst Grant. Join the conversation on social media with: #CatalystGrant About Digital Science Digital Science is an AI-focused technology company providing innovative solutions to complex challenges faced by researchers, universities, funders, industry and publishers. We work in partnership to advance global research for the benefit of society. Through our brands – Altmetric, Dimensions, Figshare, IFI CLAIMS Patent Services, metaphacts, OntoChem, Overleaf, ReadCube, Symplectic, and Writefull – we believe when we solve problems together, we drive progress for all. Visit and follow Digital Science on Bluesky, on X or on LinkedIn. CONTACT: Media contact David Ellis, Press, PR & Social Manager, Digital Science: Mobile +61 447 783 023,

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into a world of global content with local flavor? Download Daily8 app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store