logo
Mike Rowe: Renaissance Man and Jack of Many Trades

Mike Rowe: Renaissance Man and Jack of Many Trades

Epoch Times10-05-2025

If you don't know his face, you've surely heard his silky, baritone voice. In his three-decade-plus career, Daytime Emmy winner and three times Primetime Emmy nominee Mike Rowe has produced, appeared in, and/or provided narration for a dozen different TV shows.
During this same time he's provided radio and TV voice-over work for everything from pizza to motor vehicles to airlines, paper towels, and beyond. I recently had the chance to speak with Rowe who is as engaging and authentic as you could imagine.
Michael Clark:
Could you describe the gestation of your new YouTube series, 'People You Should Know?'
Mike Rowe:
It was originally called, 'Returning the Favor' and aired on the platform, 'Facebook Watch.' We did 100 episodes in four years. It was downloaded 450 million times; I won an Emmy and then Facebook cancelled it. [laughs]
Media poster for "People You Should Know."
Courtesy of Mike Rowe
Clark:
I watched the first episode and thought it was a reboot of 'Favor.' [Both 'Returning the Favor' and 'People You Should Know' consist of 30 minute episodes highlighting regular citizens trying to improve their communities via their selfless dedication of time and fund-raising. At the end of each episode, Rowe surprises these individuals with donations from companies and other organizations to assist in their missions.]
Rowe:
Very much so. I never had issues with Facebook. They were very generous with the show, but this was at a time when [CEO Mark] Zuckerberg was trying to figure out if he wanted to compete with Netflix. He had earmarked around $1 billion to green light several shows just to see if he wanted to be in that space and, as it turned out, he didn't.
When they pulled the plug, something happened to me I'd never seen before. A hit show with two million regular weekly viewers just ended. It was so strange; the fans never really let it go. I told myself a couple of years ago: when I get the time, I'll bootstrap it myself, change the title, and just get it out there. We've filmed six episodes, and now we'll see. It's a brave new world, this digital content creation space. I might be late to the party but better late than never.
Related Stories
3/11/2025
3/8/2025
Clark:
Could you describe the selection process of the prize recipients on the show?
Rowe:
If past is prologue, then the first six I more or less do myself because there is no audience yet. Once people find it, the audience, through their many suggestions, basically programs the show. We focus on people that are changing the foster care system, those tackling literacy programs, and a guy who started a forge designed for the purpose of preventing veteran suicide. He's had 22,000 people go through the program without a single suicide. [Note: the forge mentioned is a hearth that is used for veterans to heat metals; the metals can be shaped into objects that are sold or donated to charity. It is a way to channel depression and anxiety into something creative and beneficial to society].
Clark:
That's amazing. What's the release schedule of the show? Weekly?
Rowe:
Every other Friday. The next one drops on May 16 (on the show's
Clark:
It struck me as something adjacent to Habitat for Humanity. Is that correct?
Rowe:
Habitat would have been a great group to feature 30 years ago. I would have joined them on a build, and, when it was over, we could surprise them with a year's supply of lumber. We're looking for unknown or unheralded people we can help, so they can scale the good work they're already doing.
Mike Rowe (C) during an episode of "People You Should Know."
Courtesy of Mike Rowe
Clark:
Do you think 'legacy' media is dead or just on life support?
Rowe:
Great question. Obviously, I'm not an economist and don't have a crystal ball, but I read the trades. When I look at Warner Brothers/Discovery take a $9.1 billion write-down on their cable business six months ago, that means something.
To me, it means that business model still generates billions of dollars a year, but every year, it's less and less. Discovery, A&E, and History, at least in their cable lanes, I don't think they're going to go away overnight. I just don't think investors know what to do with an asset that becomes incrementally less valuable. Yes, it's a dead man walking. I just don't how long it's going to walk.
Clark:
You have a superpower I'm not sure you're aware of: the ability of appearing to be politically neutral.
Rowe:
Thank you. That's very kind. Obviously, I have political opinions. I have opinions about everything. I've tried to align myself with … topics and subjects that are still fundamentally agnostic and apolitical. 'Work,' for instance. Work is different than labor.
Mike Rowe on the set of "Dirty Jobs."
Courtesy of Mike Rowe
'Dirty Jobs' was really a love letter to work and entrepreneurship, and a look at what happens when you master a skill that's in demand. That's not a political proposition. Once I realized I was able to occupy a little sliver of space in the middle, I tried to protect it. I'm in the business of elevating hard work, passion, innovation, risk, and kindness.
Clark:
What's the difference between voice-over and narration?
Rowe:
[pause] Hmm, that's interesting. A voice-over is something you would associate with a commercial. [Slips into announcer mode] 'When it's gotta be deep, and it's gotta be thick, it's got to be Dominoes.' That's the first voice-over I ever did. Narration is typically longer form, usually associated with documentaries or a [TV] series. The biggest difference is short form versus long form.
Clark:
At one time you were an opera singer. How long did you do it and why did you stop?
Rowe:
[laughs] Well, I did it for nearly eight years. I did it because I couldn't find an agent to get me auditions for acting jobs, hosting gigs, or commercial work unless I was in the Screen Actors Guild [SAG]. The loophole was if you get into a sister union, like the American Guild of Musical Artists, which oversees opera, then you can buy a SAG membership.
I was 22, living in Baltimore and realized it was easier to fake my way into the opera than a hit TV show. I crashed a call for the Baltimore Opera, and I got in. I then realized the music was way better than I'd thought, and the girls, Michael, the girls were just terrific. I'm dressed as a pirate or a Viking surrounded by 50 beautiful women.
I finally got an acting job which led to many other jobs. Eventually, I worked my way up to the sewer.
Clark:
[laughs]
What arts and culture topics would you like us to cover? Please email ideas or feedback to

Orange background

Try Our AI Features

Explore what Daily8 AI can do for you:

Comments

No comments yet...

Related Articles

At Brandcast, Creators Weigh In On Why YouTube Is Winning TV
At Brandcast, Creators Weigh In On Why YouTube Is Winning TV

Forbes

timean hour ago

  • Forbes

At Brandcast, Creators Weigh In On Why YouTube Is Winning TV

YouTube CEO Neal Mohan had a lot to share on stage at YouTube Brandcast 2025 (Photo by Kevin ...for YouTube) A stat that may be surprising to some is that, when it comes to what services people are choosing to watch on their physical TVs, YouTube now consistently ranks at the top. Yes, that puts it above Disney services, above Paramount, and even above Netflix. Last month, YouTube gathered their top talent and executives for their fourth annual Brandcast to go over, with much fanfare, how advertisers can make the best of their time on YouTube. But also here for the show, and to walk the red carpet, was a stunning who's who of Creator-world celebrities. Digital stars such as comedian Brittany Broski, streamer IShowSpeed, YouTube's biggest creator MrBeast, and many others showed up to cheering fans, flashing cameras, and reporters eager for their insights. So, I took this opportunity to pull in some of the creators on the carpet, and ask them why they thought YouTube, in recent years, has seen so much viewership on television, even above the traditional Hollywood giants one would expect to win there. I asked them what is happening on YouTube, right now, to allow this success and more. YouTube tech commentator Jacklyn Dallas (@NBTJacklyn) explained to me that with TV viewership there usually comes a more engaged kind of audience, one which allows creators to dive deeper into a topic and spend longer on it. 'I think you have a little bit more permission if you have more TV viewers to have the story be a longer arc. It's rare that someone clicks on a video on TV and immediately clicks off,' Dallas said. And so, she explained, this means a creator who is seeking to go deeper can now find an audience, watching on their TVs, who are primed to watch longer, allowing viewership to rise. Sean Evans and Brittany Broski speak onstage during YouTube Brandcast 2025 (Photo by Kevin ...for YouTube). In line with this, Sean Evans, host of the wildly popular chicken-infused interview show Hot Ones (under @FirstWeFeast) told me how he and his team specifically design and produce their show with television viewership in mind. In fact, he says TV is where he prefers to watch Hot Ones himself, to get the sound mix just right. 'You know we put up the bass on the hot sauce reactions, like we want your bar clinging glasses when you're watching an episode. So we like a big screen or theater experience for Hot Ones. So I love when people tell me they're watching it on TV," Evans said. Television viewership allows, then, a way for YouTube creators to more directly connect with their audiences with, at times, longer run times and also sound design that can interact with a larger physical space. But a big part why YouTube content is uniquely winning TV is how its creators can react to viewer feedback in a way that TV shows might be slower to jump on. Inspirational filmmaker and YouTuber Dhar Mann (@DharMann) tells me how when one creates a traditional TV show, they can often find themselves working on a project for years and never getting instant feedback to work with. But it's different for someone working on YouTube. 'For me, as soon as I post a video I'm immediately getting comments. I'm immediately getting analytics. I can make pivots and change whatever I need to. So I stay in real time with my audience. And I'm allowed to grow with the audience,' Mann said. YouTuber Dhar Mann and YouTube CEO Neal Mohan shake hands at YouTube Brandcast 2025 (Photo by Kevin ...for YouTube). Popular YouTube comedian Adam Waheed (@AdamW) expressed a similar sentiment. 'It's been a journey making content with them rather than for them. I'm getting real time feedback in the comments, adjusting, fixing things, adding things,' Waheed said. This process may sound scrappier than the formal, long-turn production schedules of traditional television, but with that comes a level of authenticity that resonates uniquely with an audience who might be tired of the overly-produced. As online comedian and model Haley Kalil (@haleyybaylee) tells me, people want to see themselves reflected on screen, and so content that feels more relatable and accessible gets closer to doing just that. 'We've watched Netflix, we've watched Hulu— and I think Gen Z and Gen Alpha want to see real people. People that were born and raised really normal; they came up on their own. It's not like an A-list celebrity. It's not like the daughter of a celebrity. These are like your neighbors, your friends, your family,' Kalil said. Shayne Topp and Courtney Miller, both from the long-standing YouTube comedy channel Smosh (@smosh), echo this idea, telling me how they recently met a fan who told them how their content was so relatable and approachable that it felt like the duo were just some other roommates living with her at home. 'It's honesty. It's authentic. People are seeing a very real dynamic between people. Our comedy is what we're doing when the cameras aren't on. So I think we build that real connection,' Topp said. 'It's truly like hanging out with your favorite creators,' Miller added. Fans stood ready to meet their favorite YouTubers at Brandcast (Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris/Getty ... More Images for YouTube). Tech commentator Cleo Abram (@CleoAbram), always in the know on the latest in internet developments, told me how so much of this and YouTube's success on TV comes down to a key strategy, a decision that this platform made which, uniquely, is allowing it to thrive beyond the traditional Hollywood players. And that strategy, ultimately, is giving the creatives the freedom to do what they think is best. 'The bet that YouTube made a long time ago, and what's turning out to be the winning bet, is that if you allow everybody to make the kind of stories that they want, the kind of stories that get told, and the quality, measured by how much the audience loves it, increases. And so, nobody else is making that bet," Abram said. Now, YouTube's CEO Neal Mohan does not appear to believe his platform needs to crush and eliminate the other media services. As he said to Matt Belloni in a recent appearance on the industry podcast The Town: 'There's room for multiple services to be successful." But Mohan went on from there to describe what areas YouTube is seeking to win in, and why it's positioned so well to do that. The idea that YouTube would dominate our television screens might have sounded unbelievable just ten years ago. But now, as YouTube comes to the age of 20, it's a reality that many in media and entertainment are coming to understand. And, according to some of its creators, the trend is not sudden or random, but stems directly from the strategic decisions, and creative ones, this ecosystem has been setting up for years. And so this leads us to wonder how the decisions being made now will affect this platform, and our media consumption, 10 or 20 years from today. For more on the creator economy, movies and TV, follow my page on Forbes. You can also find me on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Threads and Snapchat.

Travis Barker, Kourtney Kardashian get booed at WWE Money in the Bank
Travis Barker, Kourtney Kardashian get booed at WWE Money in the Bank

New York Post

timean hour ago

  • New York Post

Travis Barker, Kourtney Kardashian get booed at WWE Money in the Bank

The WWE crowd wasn't welcoming to Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker. The high-profile couple found themselves in the spotlight at WWE's Money in the Bank show Saturday night, drawing a loud chorus of boos at the Intuit Dome in Inglewood, Calif. Cameras briefly focused on the couple and their son, Rocky Thirteen Barker, as jeers rained in from the audience. Advertisement Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker make a rare public appearance with son Rocky, 1, at WWE Money in the Bank on Saturday night. Netflix Undeterred, Barker flashed a peace sign, while Kardashian smiled and held their child as others booed. Not introduced and directly behind them was actress and big WWE fan Danielle Fishel, most known for starring in 'Boy Meets World.' Advertisement Kardashian and Barker have continued their recurring appearances on 'The Kardashians.' Kourtney Kardashian and Travis Barker at the 75th Primetime Emmy Awards held at the Peacock Theater on January 15, 2024 in Los Angeles, California. Variety via Getty Images Money in the Bank has become one of WWE's signature events over the years. Advertisement This weekend featured the emotional return of Ron 'R-Truth' Killings just days after reports of his release surfaced. Seth Rollins and Naomi claimed the coveted men's and women's briefcases, respectively, with championship match contracts inside. Kardashian and Barker have been married since 2022 and have one son together. Kardashian also has three children with ex-boyfriend Scott Disick.

Inside the secret society of ‘real life vampires' — and the arousing secret of how they drink blood
Inside the secret society of ‘real life vampires' — and the arousing secret of how they drink blood

New York Post

timean hour ago

  • New York Post

Inside the secret society of ‘real life vampires' — and the arousing secret of how they drink blood

Mobsters. Doctors. Politicians. Musicians. What's the common thread connecting this motley crew? Advertisement They're all in Australia's secret society of real vampires. Spawned from the goth subculture, this shadowy community – known as a 'vampire court' – now includes Aussies from all sorts of walks of life. 16 Stemming from goth subculture, this shadowy community – known as a 'vampire court' – includes Aussies. Andrey Kiselev – Think real vampires are just pale people drinking red cordial? Think again. Advertisement To many of its followers, the true blood lifestyle is about much more than fashion. It's about survival. And though they might not transform into bats or live forever, they do drink real human blood, wear surgically-enhanced fangs and let loose at vampire balls. 16 Followers drink real human blood, wear surgically-enhanced fangs and attend vampire balls. Gillie and Marc/Youtube Advertisement These days, their ranks are being quietly pumped by social media and the decline of religion. Just don't ask these creatures of the night to throw light on their very dark way of life. They claim they keep to themselves and aren't dangerous. But critics claim some vampires use this cloak of secrecy to exploit people. So are they really monsters? Medical mysteries? Or just misunderstood? Advertisement 'I want revenge' For centuries, vampire folklore has compelled us. Tales of bloodsucking beasts can be found in ancient cultures around the world including First Nations people. But in the last few decades, they've been forever fixed in pop culture as a romanticized symbol of finding identity in the world. This romanticism is at the heart of the complex history between real vampires and Sydney local Crystal, who does not wish to share her real name. On one hand, Crystal claims they've drugged her. Drank her blood without consent. Even forced her to drink the blood of others. On the other hand, she remains transfixed by their mythical morbidity. For Crystal, it all began when she was invited to an opulent mansion party in Sydney's affluent suburb of Vaucluse when she was just 18. Crystal, who was drawn to gothic culture at the time, said the house belonged to the father of a friend of a friend who worked as a nurse. Advertisement 16 Sydney local Crystal claims the vampires drank her blood without consent, but remains transfixed by their mythical morbidity. Supplied Inside the party, she claims to have found herself in imposing company. She was greeted by yakuza and triads – otherwise known as the Japanese and Chinese mafias. 'They were just standing around wearing suits and watching anime movies', Crystal told Advertisement 'And they weren't shy about what they did'. As it happened, the mafia is not the only bloodthirsty group these men belonged to. Crystal soon learned they were part of the Australian chapter of an international 'vampire court'. Inside, Crystal says she was given a glass of champagne. Soon after drinking it, she claims she sat on a couch and lost consciousness. When she woke up, she alleges she felt lightheaded and her neck and arms were dotted by what she calls 'love bites'. Looking back, she believes she'd been drugged. There were no other signs of assault. Advertisement 'I didn't know what to think at the time,' she says. Before she left, Crystal was given a dark diagnosis. 'They told me I'd been infected with the virus.' She never reported her experience to the police. Indeed, real vampires would come back to haunt her before long. After moving into a Newcastle monastery to study business, Crystal met members of a local court. Advertisement 16 Nicolas Cage as Dracula in 'Renfield.' Photo Credit: Universal Pictures While things started safely, one night the group pressured her to drink from a bottle of red. It was human blood mixed with cordial. 'They said, 'it's time to join us',' says Crystal. 'You can't choose to join this society. They choose you.' Feeling powerless, Crystal agreed. But the court came harder than ever. Another night, Crystal woke with puncture wounds on her wrist. 16 'They said, 'it's time to join us',' says Crystal. 'You can't choose to join this society. They choose you.' Supplied Crystal believes the vampires had fed on her while she slept. She kept quiet about the incident because the court had 'powerful people on their side.' 'There are doctors, nurses, business owners and musicians,' she says. 'It's very secretive. From the outside, they live normal lives.' Until now, Crystal kept her experience to herself out of fear she would not be taken seriously. Or worse. But now, she wants to raise awareness. 16 'There are doctors, nurses, business owners and musicians,' she says. 'It's very secretive. From the outside, they live normal lives.' Supplied 'I want revenge for how I was treated.' Despite this messy history, Crystal's experience with the court was forever imprinted onto her self-image. She hopes to one day launch a safe-space for people to appreciate vampire culture. Medical mystery Crystal's disturbing account is not unlike a scene in a horror movie, where vampires lunge from the shadows and maul victims' necks before sucking on the flowing wine-like liquid. 16 In the movies, vampires lunge and maul victims' necks for their flowing, wine-like liquid. copy photo It's important to note that vampiric crime is rare, and abusers of power are far from unique to the courts. For most members, this community offers a sense of belonging, and some courts are heavily involved with charity causes. Not all 'real vampires' feed on blood. And for those who do, the practice is traditionally safe. So how does it work? 16 Bela Lugosi as Count Dracula. Universal Studios What's known as a 'donor' will willingly offer their blood to a vampire. Both take medical tests and other precautions. Complications are rare. Which is fine. But it begs another question: why? Real vampires claim they feel sick and lethargic if they don't feed on human blood. It balances their energy. 16 Movie poster for 'Dracula 'starring Bela Lugosi. AP Some believe this thirst for blood is a sign of a deeper mental health problem. So is it all a big delusion? When vampires follow a code of silence, it's not easy to say. But that secrecy is well founded. They've learned the hard way their lifestyle inspires revulsion. That's why this community stays in the shadows. Most Australian vampires I contacted for this story declined to take part in it. One local fanged figure you need to know is Jason De Marco, otherwise known as Don Jason. Don Jason runs the Sydney Vampires Meetup Group. He's also an electioneering member of the Liberal Party, bringing new meaning to the idea of a bloodsucking politician. At least this one is honest. In a YouTube video made by married artists Gillie and Marc Schattner, Jason is seen wearing Edwardian-era clothing, surgically-enhanced fangs, and a wide smile. Among the graves of Waverley cemetery, he says Don Jason first knew what he was aged four. 'I was different from other children' Jason said. 'I said I'm going to grow up and be Dracula.' 16 'I said I'm going to grow up and be Dracula,' Don Jason, who runs the Sydney Vampires Meetup Group, said. Gillie and Marc/Youtube He says he drinks exclusively from the razor-sliced thighs of female donors. They don't just consent to this feeding. They're aroused by it. 'They seem to get an orgasm off it every time,' he claimed. 'People can assume we're insane: why do you have this need to drink blood?' 16 'People can assume we're insane: why do you have this need to drink blood?' Don Jason says. Gillie and Marc/Youtube 'The only thing I have to worry about is my innate illness, which was ironically an illness associated with the vampire myth.' 'My vitals can shut down and I look like a corpse. People who had it used to be buried alive.' Marc Schattner said Don Jason suffers from porphyria, a rare blood disorder thought to have inspired early vampire mythology. 16 Marc Schattner said Don Jason suffers from porphyria, a rare blood disorder thought to have inspired early vampire mythology. Gillie and Marc/Youtube 'It can cause symptoms like extreme sensitivity to sunlight, skin blisters, and a reddish-purple discoloration,' he says. Jason is an extreme example. Some people just like vampires for a good old-fashioned doof. 'Not merely an event' The dawn of the vampire ball is misty. Sometime during the rise of Europe's medieval masquerade balls, a darker event emerged in honour of the undead. These days, the vampire ball circuit is an international network spanning Romania, the US and Australia. 16 Bela Lugosi in 'Mark of the Vampire.' Melbourne's annual Carpe Noctem Vampire Ball was recently held in April. The founder of the event, who asked to remain anonymous, said it's about something bigger than costumes. 'More than just an opportunity to don elaborate attire, the Carpe Noctem Vampire Ball is a celebration of identity and belonging.' After a signature 'bloodbath cocktail' (ingredients undisclosed), the crowd – comprised of goths, role players and the real deal – take part in rituals including a 'sacrifice' that 'lifts the veil between the living and the dead.' Australian vampires Few real-vampires claim to have the magical powers you'll find in Twilight. But if I had to throw money on one of them being superhuman, Andreas Bathory is the one. 16 Kristen Stewart, left, and Robert Pattinson are shown in a scene from 'Twilight.' AP He dwells on the sprawling grounds of Bran 'Dracula's' Castle in Romania's Transylvania. With these walls, Bathory drinks donated blood. Sometimes sleeps in a coffin. And channels Vlad the Impaler. 'It's not merely an event' Bathory says. 'It's a portal.' Bathory is the leader of the Ordo Dracul, a vampire court based in Transylvania. And he says more and more Aussies are signing up. 16 Bran Castle towers above Bran commune, in Brasov county. via REUTERS 'New initiates are joining from Australia. Some of my dearest allies come from Melbourne and the Gold Coast,' he said. 'Australia resonates with the old blood.' Bathory believes these vampires thrive in silence. 'Just because we're not loud, doesn't mean we're not present. In our world we prefer to walk the line of shadows.' 16 Bran Castle, also known as Dracula's Castle, in the Carpathian Mountains. REUTERS 'Realise their full potential' The University of Western Sydney's Dr Adam Possamai charted the rise of real vampires in his book Sociology of Religion for Generations X and Y. He believes it's a 'hyper-real religion' – a modern hybrid of religion, philosophy and popular culture that helps people find their identity in a noisy world. 'The vampire is no longer a monster that needs to be destroyed,' he said. 'It's now a superman-type of character that people aspire to become to realise their full potential. 'As society becomes more consumerist, I expect hyper-real religions like vampires to grow. But it's tricky to quantify.' 'Are they people who identify with the image alone? How far do their practices go? And how long will they keep them up?' Though Australian vampire groups have picked up thousands of members on social media, the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) said in a statement they don't formally recognise vampires. 'Vampires don't describe a stand-alone group in any of the statistical standard classifications used to disseminate Census data,' a spokesperson said. 'The ABS regularly reviews statistical standard classifications and holds public consultations to ensure standard classifications reflect the Australian community.' Until vampires are socially acknowledged, we'll never know how many of them walk among us or what secrets they hold. Nelson Groom is a freelance writer. His novel The Auction is coming soon. Learn more on his Instagram Got a story? Get in touch: nelsonsamuelgroom@

DOWNLOAD THE APP

Get Started Now: Download the App

Ready to dive into the world of global news and events? Download our app today from your preferred app store and start exploring.
app-storeplay-store