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Is this far too early for Edmonton Oilers forward line & D-pairing projections?

Is this far too early for Edmonton Oilers forward line & D-pairing projections?

Edmonton Journal8 hours ago
If the NHL regular season started tomorrow, how would Edmonton Oilers Head Coach Kris Knoblauch deploy his lineup?
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I am getting a bit ahead of myself. Lots of Summer remains. Training camp will decide a few things. And that stretch from the start of the regular season through American Thanksgiving will really separate the wheat from the chaff.
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Ekholm – Bouchard
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Nurse – Walman
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Kulak – Emberson
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Skinner – Pickard
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-Call this the 'traditional' lineup, if you will. You know you can rely on that first line. Podkolzin meshes well with Draisaitl who also seems to like playing with him. Mangiapane should be an effective 'give & go' guy with Leon. The third line puts Savoie with two veterans, both responsible defensively, and Frederic with the size. Line four is a 'checking' line with some grit and decent speed on the wings. Pairings are 'most predictable'. Predictable? Sure.
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Scenario 2 –
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Henrique – McDavid – Hyman
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Nugent-Hopkins – Draisaitl – Savoie
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Podkolzin – Frederic – Mangiapane
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Janmark – Philp – Kapanen
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Ekholm – Bouchard
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Nurse – Stecher
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Kulak – Walman
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Skinner – Pickard
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-Adam Henrique is a very smart player who should be able to think with McDavid, Hyman is the forechecker and all three can score. This puts Savoie in an even better opportunity to be an offensive contributor and still with two vets for shelter. Frederic will get a shot at Center, this trio would forecheck like a damn, with Mangiapane the finisher. Line four is subbing Philp for Lazar, maybe a training camp result. Nurse pairs with a guy he has a reasonable history with. And that would be one of the best third pairings in hockey.
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Scenario 3 –
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Draisaitl – McDavid – Hyman
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Frederic – Nugent-Hopkins – Mangiapane
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Podkolzin – Henrique – Savoie
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Kapanen – Tomasek – Jones
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Ekholm – Bouchard
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Nurse – Kulak
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Walman – Emberson
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Pickard – Skinner
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-This is the 'nuclear' option. Some love it, some hate it. But it is a load to handle for most teams. This moves Nuge back into the middle where he was effective during the playoffs, and with two truculent wingers. Savoie again gets two vets but in an even more sheltered situation. Jones as your 13-14F would likely see some action here. Maybe Tomasek slots in higher but lets start him here. Kulak proved he can play his off-side, and I do think Emberson will get a long look. I put Calvin Pickard first in case the starter falters, but not because I hope he does
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Canadiens Notebook: Management stresses compete level to prospects
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Canadiens Notebook: Management stresses compete level to prospects

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Canadiens Notebook: Management stresses compete level to prospects
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Canadiens Notebook: Management stresses compete level to prospects

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Canadiens Notebook: Management stresses compete level to prospects
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'We usually have to use an interpreter, so it's a little bit more difficult and hopefully peace will prevail and we'll be able to get over there and be able to see them.' Ramage had high praise for Konyushkov, a 6-foot, 171-pound defenceman who shoots right. The Canadiens selected Konyushkov in the fourth round (110th overall) of the 2023 NHL Draft and last season the 22-year-old had 3-14-17 totals in 67 games with the KHL's Nizhny Novgorod Torpedo. 'He speaks a little bit of English, so it was impressive when he's speaking to the other Russians on the ice, he was helping explain what the drills were,' Ramage said. 'So he's a very mature young man. He was a captain two years ago — one of the youngest captains in the KHL. He carries himself like a pro. I believe he's going to go back (to the KHL) this year and we'll see what happens next year. It would be nice to get him over.' Getting drafted by an NHL team is an accomplishment. Finding a spot on an NHL roster is even more difficult. 'So often a player gets drafted and he's not going to be what he was in junior or college,' Ramage said. 'He's got to find a seat that might not be that first power play or top-unit PK. What is going to get you to the next level? So that's part of the education process we have to do. And then, on their side, it's the buy in. And some push back and, you know what, they don't stick around very long. The others that buy in … Tel père, tel fils :) Like father, like son #GoHabsGo 'I think of Guy Carbonneau all the time,' Ramage added about the last Canadiens captain to hoist the Stanley Cup in 1993. 'A prolific scorer in junior (posting 72-110-182 totals in 72 games during his last season with the QMJHL's Chicoutimi Saguenéens) and that's not what he was in the pros and he's a Hall of Famer and Stanley Cup winner multiple times. So you try and use examples. 'These guys are a little bit young for Guy, so I have to find more recent ones,' Ramage added with a chuckle. Hughes announced Thursday that defenceman William Trudeau has agreed to a one-year, two-way contract with the Canadiens. The 22-year-old — selected by the Canadiens in the fourth round (113th overall) — of the 2021 NHL Draft had 5-14-19 totals in 68 AHL games last season and was plus-14 with the Rocket.

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