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Indonesia weighing purchase of China's J-10 fighter jets
Indonesia weighing purchase of China's J-10 fighter jets

Reuters

time5 days ago

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Indonesia weighing purchase of China's J-10 fighter jets

JAKARTA, June 4 (Reuters) - Indonesia is weighing buying China's J-10 fighter jets, given their relatively cheaper price and advanced capability, as it also considers finalising a purchase of U.S.-made F-15EX jets, a senior official said on Wednesday. Southeast Asia's most populous country has in recent years embarked on efforts to modernise its ageing military hardware. In 2022 it bought 42 French Rafale jets worth $8.1 billion, six of which will be delivered next year. "We have had talks with China and they offered us a lot, not just J-10, but also ships, arms, frigates," said Deputy Defence Minister and retired Air Marshal Donny Ermawan Taufanto. "We're evaluating J-10," Taufanto said, adding that Jakarta was reviewing system compatibility and after-sales support as well as pricing. A potential purchase has been considered for over a year, before the recent conflict between India and Pakistan, but Taufanto said Indonesia would factor in reports that a Pakistani J-10 plane shot down multiple Indian jets last month. Jakarta also continues to consider whether to proceed with the next step for its purchase of F-15EX fighters, he said, following the defence ministry's deal with planemaker Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab for the sale in 2023. Taufanto said the U.S. jets' capabilities were well recorded, but suggested the offered price of $8 billion for 24 planes remained in question. French President Emmanuel Macron said after meeting Indonesian counterpart Prabowo Subianto in Jakarta last week that they had signed a preliminary defence pact that could lead to new orders of French hardware including Rafale jets. "We're considering (France's) offer. We're considering our own budget, we're evaluating, especially given we have other options like J-10, F-15," Taufanto said.

Trump's Qatari plane may not be able to leave US airspace without major upgrades
Trump's Qatari plane may not be able to leave US airspace without major upgrades

India Today

time15-05-2025

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  • India Today

Trump's Qatari plane may not be able to leave US airspace without major upgrades

A Boeing 747 jet offered to President Donald Trump by Qatar as a temporary flying White House might need fighter jet escorts and could be restricted to flying inside the US unless significant costly security upgrades were made, aviation experts and industry sources if numerous improvements to the plane's communications and defenses are made over the coming months once any deal is completed, the military escort and domestic restriction could remain in place, the experts and sources the commander-in-chief, however, Trump could waive any and all requirements like these, a former Air Force official the luxury plane offered by Qatar's royal family would require security upgrades, communications improvements to prevent spies from listening in and the ability to fend off incoming missiles, experts said. The costs were not known, but could be significant given Boeing's BA.N current effort to build two new Air Force One planes exceeds $5 Air Force referred a request for comment to the White House, which did not have an immediate are serious questions about whether any combination of fighter escorts and short-term upgrades would be enough to provide sufficient protection for the president."I don't think it's possible," said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the Center for Strategic and International Studies' Defense and Security Department, referring to short timeline for the deep Force One is designed to be survivable in all kinds of environments, including a nuclear war," he added, noting the jet's ability to tolerate the electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear blast is embedded in the jet's wiring and systems from the bottom up. "That's not something you add on."Trump has dismissed criticism of his widely-reported plan to accept the 13-year-old airplane with a $400 million list price, saying it would be "stupid" to turn down the also called it a practical decision, and that he was disappointed Boeing had taken so long to deliver on already delayed contracts for the two new Air Force One planes that he renegotiated during his first term."If he wants it, and he says 'I'll accept any risk associated with not having all the stuff the real Air Force One has,' he can do that," the former Air Force official Air Force One does not normally fly with fighter escorts, the new plane may need them to defend against missile threats, the former official escort could be necessary because the Qatari plane "wouldn't have the electronic warfare and missile warning systems and whatever else you associate with survivability on Air Force One," said Richard Aboulafia, managing director of consulting firm AeroDynamic added international travel may be off-limits because "you can't guarantee the level of security in international airspace or airports."Air Force One almost never requires fighter escorts because it is equipped with a range of advanced defensive systems including flares, electronic jammers and infrared detection systems that protect against missile sometimes fly with the jet when it is overseas, or in moments of national security risk such as after the attacks of September 11, government has tapped L3Harris Technologies LHX.N to overhaul the 747 as it waits for delivery of the two delayed new Air Force One aircraft from upgrades could include a communications suite that can handle sensitive White House and aircraft crew functions, and changing the interior so it can support Trump, his staff, the Secret Service and the press, said Douglas Birkey, executive director of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace any scenario, the US military would need to install new security features and potentially new wiring before the plane was used to transport Trump, experts mooted a decade ago, the Air Force One program has faced chronic delays, with the delivery of two new 747-8s slated for 2027, three years behind the previous in 2018 received a $3.9 billion contract to build the two planes for use as Air Force One and costs have since risen to at least $4.7 billion. Boeing has also posted $2.4 billion of charges from the jets were themselves originally intended for a foreign airline, Russian carrier Transaero, which went bankrupt in 2015. Using existing airframes was meant to reduce costs but Boeing has since taken billions of dollars in charges because the costs to retrofit the plane have far exceeded the contract February, Trump toured a Boeing 747-8 built for Qatar to highlight the White House said at the time that the visit allowed him to "check out the new hardware/technology," without aircraft was originally operated by state-owned VIP airline Qatar Amiri flight, which performs private flights for members of the country's ruling family and other government officials, according to specialist was reported sold in 2023 to Global Jet Isle of Man, a private charter firm that has declined to comment on the are also questions over the $400 million value widely placed on the jet, based on new prices for the aircraft, which halted production in Cirium said a second-hand 747-8 might fetch a quarter of that, while a trader in VIP jets said the bespoke interior would be worth much more than the plane InMust Watch

Trump's Qatari 747 may need fighter escorts to serve as Air Force One
Trump's Qatari 747 may need fighter escorts to serve as Air Force One

The Sun

time15-05-2025

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  • The Sun

Trump's Qatari 747 may need fighter escorts to serve as Air Force One

WASHINGTON: A Boeing 747 jet offered to President Donald Trump by Qatar as a temporary flying White House might need fighter jet escorts and could be restricted to flying inside the U.S. unless significant costly security upgrades were made, aviation experts and industry sources said. Even if numerous improvements to the plane's communications and defenses are made over the coming months once any deal is completed, the military escort and domestic restriction could remain in place, the experts and sources said. As the commander-in-chief, however, Trump could waive any and all requirements like these, a former Air Force official noted. Retrofitting the luxury plane offered by Qatar's royal family would require security upgrades, communications improvements to prevent spies from listening in and the ability to fend off incoming missiles, experts said. The costs were not known, but could be significant given Boeing's (BA.N) current effort to build two new Air Force One planes exceeds $5 billion. The Air Force referred a request for comment to the White House, which did not have an immediate comment. There are serious questions about whether any combination of fighter escorts and short-term upgrades would be enough to provide sufficient protection for the president. 'I don't think it's possible,' said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the Center for Strategic and International Studies' Defense and Security Department, referring to short timeline for the deep modifications. 'Air Force One is designed to be survivable in all kinds of environments, including a nuclear war,' he added, noting the jet's ability to tolerate the electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear blast is embedded in the jet's wiring and systems from the bottom up. 'That's not something you add on.' Trump has dismissed criticism of his widely-reported plan to accept the 13-year-old airplane with a $400 million list price, saying it would be 'stupid' to turn down the offer. Trump also called it a practical decision, and that he was disappointed Boeing had taken so long to deliver on already delayed contracts for the two new Air Force One planes that he renegotiated during his first term. 'If he wants it, and he says 'I'll accept any risk associated with not having all the stuff the real Air Force One has,' he can do that,' the former Air Force official said. While Air Force One does not normally fly with fighter escorts, the new plane may need them to defend against missile threats, the former official added. An escort could be necessary because the Qatari plane 'wouldn't have the electronic warfare and missile warning systems and whatever else you associate with survivability on Air Force One,' said Richard Aboulafia, managing director of consulting firm AeroDynamic Advisory. He added international travel may be off-limits because 'you can't guarantee the level of security in international airspace or airports.' Air Force One almost never requires fighter escorts because it is equipped with a range of advanced defensive systems including flares, electronic jammers and infrared detection systems that protect against missile strikes. Escorts sometimes fly with the jet when it is overseas, or in moments of national security risk such as after the attacks of September 11, 2001. The government has tapped L3Harris Technologies (LHX.N) to overhaul the 747 as it waits for delivery of the two delayed new Air Force One aircraft from Boeing. Other upgrades could include a communications suite that can handle sensitive White House and aircraft crew functions, and changing the interior so it can support Trump, his staff, the Secret Service and the press, said Douglas Birkey, executive director of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies. Under any scenario, the U.S. military would need to install new security features and potentially new wiring before the plane was used to transport Trump, experts say. DELAYS First mooted a decade ago, the Air Force One program has faced chronic delays, with the delivery of two new 747-8s slated for 2027, three years behind the previous schedule. Boeing in 2018 received a $3.9 billion contract to build the two planes for use as Air Force One and costs have since risen to at least $4.7 billion. Boeing has also posted $2.4 billion of charges from the project. Those jets were themselves originally intended for a foreign airline, Russian carrier Transaero, which went bankrupt in 2015. Using existing airframes was meant to reduce costs but Boeing has since taken billions of dollars in charges because the costs to retrofit the plane have far exceeded the contract price. In February, Trump toured a Boeing 747-8 built for Qatar to highlight the delays. The White House said at the time that the visit allowed him to 'check out the new hardware/technology,' without elaborating. The aircraft was originally operated by state-owned VIP airline Qatar Amiri flight, which performs private flights for members of the country's ruling family and other government officials, according to specialist databases. It was reported sold in 2023 to Global Jet Isle of Man, a private charter firm that has declined to comment on the jet. There are also questions over the $400 million value widely placed on the jet, based on new prices for the aircraft, which halted production in 2023. Analysts Cirium said a second-hand 747-8 might fetch a quarter of that, while a trader in VIP jets said the bespoke interior would be worth much more than the plane itself.

Trump's Qatari 747 may need escort if used as Air Force One
Trump's Qatari 747 may need escort if used as Air Force One

The Sun

time15-05-2025

  • Business
  • The Sun

Trump's Qatari 747 may need escort if used as Air Force One

WASHINGTON: A Boeing 747 jet offered to President Donald Trump by Qatar as a temporary flying White House might need fighter jet escorts and could be restricted to flying inside the U.S. unless significant costly security upgrades were made, aviation experts and industry sources said. Even if numerous improvements to the plane's communications and defenses are made over the coming months once any deal is completed, the military escort and domestic restriction could remain in place, the experts and sources said. As the commander-in-chief, however, Trump could waive any and all requirements like these, a former Air Force official noted. Retrofitting the luxury plane offered by Qatar's royal family would require security upgrades, communications improvements to prevent spies from listening in and the ability to fend off incoming missiles, experts said. The costs were not known, but could be significant given Boeing's (BA.N) current effort to build two new Air Force One planes exceeds $5 billion. The Air Force referred a request for comment to the White House, which did not have an immediate comment. There are serious questions about whether any combination of fighter escorts and short-term upgrades would be enough to provide sufficient protection for the president. 'I don't think it's possible,' said Mark Cancian, a senior adviser with the Center for Strategic and International Studies' Defense and Security Department, referring to short timeline for the deep modifications. 'Air Force One is designed to be survivable in all kinds of environments, including a nuclear war,' he added, noting the jet's ability to tolerate the electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear blast is embedded in the jet's wiring and systems from the bottom up. 'That's not something you add on.' Trump has dismissed criticism of his widely-reported plan to accept the 13-year-old airplane with a $400 million list price, saying it would be 'stupid' to turn down the offer. Trump also called it a practical decision, and that he was disappointed Boeing had taken so long to deliver on already delayed contracts for the two new Air Force One planes that he renegotiated during his first term. 'If he wants it, and he says 'I'll accept any risk associated with not having all the stuff the real Air Force One has,' he can do that,' the former Air Force official said. While Air Force One does not normally fly with fighter escorts, the new plane may need them to defend against missile threats, the former official added. An escort could be necessary because the Qatari plane 'wouldn't have the electronic warfare and missile warning systems and whatever else you associate with survivability on Air Force One,' said Richard Aboulafia, managing director of consulting firm AeroDynamic Advisory. He added international travel may be off-limits because 'you can't guarantee the level of security in international airspace or airports.' Air Force One almost never requires fighter escorts because it is equipped with a range of advanced defensive systems including flares, electronic jammers and infrared detection systems that protect against missile strikes. Escorts sometimes fly with the jet when it is overseas, or in moments of national security risk such as after the attacks of September 11, 2001. The government has tapped L3Harris Technologies (LHX.N) to overhaul the 747 as it waits for delivery of the two delayed new Air Force One aircraft from Boeing. Other upgrades could include a communications suite that can handle sensitive White House and aircraft crew functions, and changing the interior so it can support Trump, his staff, the Secret Service and the press, said Douglas Birkey, executive director of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies. Under any scenario, the U.S. military would need to install new security features and potentially new wiring before the plane was used to transport Trump, experts say. DELAYS First mooted a decade ago, the Air Force One program has faced chronic delays, with the delivery of two new 747-8s slated for 2027, three years behind the previous schedule. Boeing in 2018 received a $3.9 billion contract to build the two planes for use as Air Force One and costs have since risen to at least $4.7 billion. Boeing has also posted $2.4 billion of charges from the project. Those jets were themselves originally intended for a foreign airline, Russian carrier Transaero, which went bankrupt in 2015. Using existing airframes was meant to reduce costs but Boeing has since taken billions of dollars in charges because the costs to retrofit the plane have far exceeded the contract price. In February, Trump toured a Boeing 747-8 built for Qatar to highlight the delays. The White House said at the time that the visit allowed him to 'check out the new hardware/technology,' without elaborating. The aircraft was originally operated by state-owned VIP airline Qatar Amiri flight, which performs private flights for members of the country's ruling family and other government officials, according to specialist databases. It was reported sold in 2023 to Global Jet Isle of Man, a private charter firm that has declined to comment on the jet. There are also questions over the $400 million value widely placed on the jet, based on new prices for the aircraft, which halted production in 2023. Analysts Cirium said a second-hand 747-8 might fetch a quarter of that, while a trader in VIP jets said the bespoke interior would be worth much more than the plane itself.

China sends back new Boeing jets as steep US tariffs take a toll
China sends back new Boeing jets as steep US tariffs take a toll

India Today

time21-04-2025

  • Business
  • India Today

China sends back new Boeing jets as steep US tariffs take a toll

A second Boeing (BA.N), opens new tab jet intended for use by a Chinese airline was heading back to the US on Monday, flight tracking data showed, in what appears to be another victim of the tit-for-tat bilateral tariffs launched by President Donald Trump in his global trade 737 MAX 8 landed in the US territory of Guam on Monday, after leaving Boeing's Zhoushan completion center near Shanghai, data from flight tracking website AirNav Radar is one of the stops such flights make on the 5,000-mile (8,000-km) journey across the Pacific between Boeing's US production hub in Seattle and the Zhoushan completion center, where planes are ferried by Boeing for final work and delivery to a Chinese carrier. On Sunday a 737 MAX painted with the livery for China's Xiamen Airlines made the return journey from Zhoushan and landed at Seattle's Boeing is not clear which party made the decision for the two aircraft to return to the USBoeing could find a replacement buyer in Malaysia Airlines, however, which has said it was talking to the manufacturer about acquiring jets that may become available should Chinese airlines stop taking this month raised baseline tariffs on Chinese imports to 145%. In retaliation, China has imposed a 125% tariff on US goods. A Chinese airline taking delivery of a Boeing jet could be crippled by the tariffs, given that a new 737 MAX has a market value of around $55 million, according to IBA, an aviation plane flew from Seattle to Zhoushan just under a month did not immediately respond to a request for return of the 737 MAX jets, Boeing's best-selling model, is the latest sign of disruption to new aircraft deliveries from a breakdown in the aerospace industry's decades-old duty-free tariff war and apparent U-turn over deliveries comes as Boeing has been recovering from an almost five-year import freeze on 737 MAX jets and a previous round of trade over changing tariffs could leave many aircraft deliveries in limbo, with some airline CEOs saying they would defer delivery of planes rather than pay duties, analysts Watch

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