19-06-2025
An Interview With Trump's Border Czar, Tom Homan
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Over the past several weeks, federal agents have mounted increasingly aggressive immigration raids across the country.
They have met with intense pushback from protesters, politicians and businesses.
Tom Homan, President Trump's border czar, speaks about his deportation strategy and why the Trump administration is only just getting started.
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Tom Homan, border czar for the Trump administration.
The Trump administration aims to spend $45 billion to expand immigrant detention.
A federal appeals court has allowed the National Guard to remain in Los Angeles until a legal challenge is heard.
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