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The inside story of how Terenure signed rugby great Carlos Spencer
The inside story of how Terenure signed rugby great Carlos Spencer

Irish Times

time17-05-2025

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  • Irish Times

The inside story of how Terenure signed rugby great Carlos Spencer

It's not often that an All-Ireland League (AIL) coaching appointment goes global. Well, never actually. Better coaches may also have been hired in the past and will be in the future. But for sheer eye-popping audacity and shock value, nothing compares to Terenure College RFC announcing that Carlos Spencer has signed a three-year deal to be their next coach . It seems safe to presume that on first hearing or reading the news most people, not least in Terenure and in the Energia All-Ireland League, simply thought it was a joke or at the least they had to do a double take. As befits a rugby figure with such a cool name, like few other figures in the world game Carlos Spencer has always been synonymous with flair − much of it outrageous. Add in his acceleration and footwork, and Spencer was the epitome of a running outhalf, witness more than 100 tries in first-class rugby in New Zealand. READ MORE When the game turned professional in 1996, Spencer provided the game with some glitter. He played in the Blues' first Super Rugby match and he scored 608 points for them, helping them to win the inaugural 1996 title and retain it a year later, as well as reclaiming it in 2003. Spencer remains among the All Blacks' top-10 points scorers, with 383 in 44 Tests. He won two Tri-Nations and won two Ranfurly Shields and four NPCs with Auckland. He moved to Northampton, then Gloucester and finished in South Africa with the Lions there. There have been hobbies and business interests, as well as specialist and consultative roles in coaching working with the Lions, Sharks and Kings in South Africa from 2012 to 2016, Sanix in Japan for three years, two years with the Hurricanes and latterly with the Auckland women's team. Carlos Spencer leads the Haka before the 2003 Rugby World Cup semi-final between Australia and New Zealand in Sydney. Photograph: Nick Laham/Getty On foot of Seán Skehan stepping down after five hugely successful seasons as the club's head coach, Terenure had a 'reasonable number' of applications, according to Ian Morgan, a key figure in this story along with his friend Diego Menendez. Menendez helps to run a side called the Dublin Dogos, comprised mostly of Argentinians, who have been playing on Terenure's main pitch or all-weather one at Lakelands Park for the last three seasons. They hosted a barbecue in 2023, when Terenure won their breakthrough AIL title, as a fundraiser before the team's summer tour to Argentina. Named after the national dog of Argentina , the Dogos play in the Metro 10 and this season completed a league and cup double. Menendez is involved in a whiskey project called Cross Ten, which has enlisted outhalfs to help promote this brand in advance of its eventual release, including Spencer. Menendez mentioned to him that Terenure were looking for a new coach. Without any promises or a real expression of interest from Spencer, Menendez obtained his CV and rang Morgan, who is now the club's director of rugby. On foot of Menendez establishing contact, Morgan rang Spencer on the night of the AIL final, Sunday, April 27th, after watching that match in Lakelands Park with Terenure's Dr Bill Twomey, who had been one of the IRFU's 'services to rugby' medal recipients that day. Carlos Spencer speaks to reporters in November 2022 after being named Blues women's backs coach for Super Rugby Aupiki 2023. Photograph: Phil Walter/Getty 'He happened to answer and we had a chat,' Morgan told The Irish Times this week. 'He said, 'Well, I don't really know, but I'd be keen to go through the process' and from that we had another conversation.' Morgan is part of the Terenure Coaching Recruitment Group along with Will Moore, Des McCann, Podge O'Donnell, Stephen O'Neill, Frank Walsh, Mark Hamilton and Paul Barr, the club's performance director. That evening, Morgan texted their WhatsApp group: 'You're not going to believe it. I've just spoken to Carlos Spencer.' One or two sent back laughing emojis and coincidentally Moore and O'Donnell were actually watching a repeat of Spencer's celebrated performance for the Blues away to the Crusaders in February 2004 on Sky Sports. The Crusaders fans had never been shy of expressing their dislike for Spencer, who had helped the Blues beat their rivals in the 2003 final. Blues were leading 31-29 with a minute remaining, and Spencer received the ball on his own line. Commentator Tony Johnson exclaimed: 'He's not going to pass, is he?' Oh, yes, he did, with a long skip pass to Joe Rokocoko before Spencer finished off the pitch-length try, walked over to the corner of the in-goal with a posse of team-mates to touch down, landed the touchline conversion to deny the Crusaders a bonus point then gestured to the home crowd. The group interviewed four applicants on their final shortlist, and had two Zoom calls with Spencer. 'It became pretty apparent that Carlos was the guy for us,' Morgan says. 'The main reason he's coming here is to be a head coach. The timing is also right. His young lad [Payton] is on the Blues, his daughter [Asha] is doing her Leaving Cert this year, so she might come over in December for a gap year, and his wife [Jodene] is head of PE in a school, so the holidays work out well for her too.' 'He's an incredibly nice guy. Having some business interests here is a factor. He's involved in 'wellness' and nutrition, and now he really wants to give head coaching a crack again. That was the biggest draw for him.' When the news was announced to the squad, Morgan says, 'their faces dropped. There was sudden silence and a few seconds later they just broke out laughing and cheering'. Rival clubs will have speculated as to how much Terenure are paying Spencer. 'We've got the same coaching budget as last season and I would be of the opinion there are other coaches in the AIL being paid more,' Morgan says. The link with the school, and more than ever with the local community, is still umbilical, but providing an Argentinian team with a home and luring Spencer reflects how much more 'open' the club is nowadays. 'We've always helped out the Dogos when they wanted to have functions,' Morgan says. 'It's very difficult for a club or a team when you don't have a base. Diego's son is a member in Terenure and if our relationship with Diego wasn't as strong I don't think Carlos Spencer would be coming here.' Thanks to YouTube and social media, as well as television repeats, Spencer's name and his deeds still resonate. So, to Morgan's pleasant surprise, the news has generated excitement among Terenure's under-20s as well as the likes of Jordan Coghlan and Harrison Brewer, who will surely be more inclined to keep playing for another season or more. This won't harm recruitment either and Spencer's impending arrival will generate excitement for the AIL itself. Morgan, who won promotion as a player with Barnhall in 1997, reckons the AIL has never been better, not just in Division 1A but throughout the five divisions. 'The size of the divisions is perfect, and you could see that in the way the last weekends and the final play-offs went down to the wire.' Proof of 1A's unpredictability last season was that relegated Garryowen beat the champions Clontarf, while City of Armagh beat Terenure twice, but were also relegated. The Terenure team celebrate with the Division 1A trophy with supporters at Lakelands Park, Dublin, in May 2023. Photograph: Ben Brady/INPHO Having reached three successive finals, and winning their inaugural AIL title in 2023, Terenure fell away toward the end of last season. 'Seán [Skehan] was the best coach that Terenure College had for a long time. He brought us to a different level,' Morgan says. Skehan is now at Wanderers in a consultative role. Succeeding Skehan with Spencer also reflects how small the global community is, too, in Morgan's view. 'Are we lucky that Carlos Spencer is coming to Terenure? We are very lucky. Is he lucky to be coming to Terenure? Yes.' Spencer, himself, has said as much too. Morgan says: 'From speaking to Carlos, he's all about the players and the culture. He won't be shouting and roaring at fellas. I think it will be an expansive approach and more player-led and he will encourage guys to express themselves. Whether this takes us to the top four or keeps us in the division next season, we want performances to be good. 'I just think he's a great fit for us at this stage and I wouldn't take any other coach out there.' Mike Brewer, father of Harrison and a former All Blacks World Cup winner whose coaching career took in stints with Ireland and Leinster, perhaps put it best: 'TCRFC and Carlos Spencer. A perfect match.'

Terenure College RFC appoint New Zealand All Black legend as their new head coach
Terenure College RFC appoint New Zealand All Black legend as their new head coach

The Irish Sun

time10-05-2025

  • Sport
  • The Irish Sun

Terenure College RFC appoint New Zealand All Black legend as their new head coach

TERENURE College RFC have unveiled former All Black Carlos Spencer as their new head coach. The 49-year-old, who earned 44 caps for 1 Former New Zealand's ace Carlos Spencer has been appointed new Terenure coach The south Dublin side won the All-Ireland League title in 2023. In a statement issued on Saturday, the Division 1A outfit said: 'Carlos was the outstanding candidate following our recruitment process. "We believe this is an ambitious and exciting appointment for our club, the All-Ireland League and Irish rugby.' The former All-Black out-half said: 'Terenure [is] a club with a proud history, passionate supporters and a strong sense of community. I feel very lucky and honored to now be a part of that.' read more on rugby Best known for his time with the Auckland Blues, Spencer also lined out for English Premiership sides during his playing career. His coaching past includes assistant roles in Super Rugby with the Lions, Sharks, and Hurricanes. And most recently, he guided the Blues women's side to the 2025 Super Rugby Aupiki title. Spencer earned 44 caps for the All Blacks between 1995 and 2004, scoring 383. Most read in Rugby Union He bagged 383 points, and often sharing a fierce selection rivalry with Andrew Mehrtens. He was part of the All Blacks squad for the 2003 Rugby World Cup and became a global fan favourite for his attacking, fearless style. 'Dumbest game ever' - Former England star, 33, takes up violent new sport slammed by experts After leaving New Zealand, Spencer enjoyed successful stints in Europe with Northampton Saints and Gloucester Rugby .

Legendary All Black to take over at All Ireland League rugby club
Legendary All Black to take over at All Ireland League rugby club

Irish Daily Mirror

time10-05-2025

  • Sport
  • Irish Daily Mirror

Legendary All Black to take over at All Ireland League rugby club

Legendary All Black out-half Carlos Spencer will take over as Head Coach at Terenure College RFC next season. Famed for his attacking style, the New Zealander earned 44 caps for his country between 1995 and 2004 having originally played with NPC with Auckland Blues and Super Rugby with Blues. This was followed by moving to the English Premiership and spells at Northampton and Gloucester from 2005-09 and 2009-10 respectively. Spencer began his coaching career in South Africa with Lions, Sharks and Eastern Province, moved to Japan with Sanix Blues before becoming as assistant at Hurricanes in Wellington and, latterly, New Orleans Gold. 'Terenure College Rugby Football Club(TCRFC) are delighted to announce the appointment of Former All Black fly half, Carlos Spencer as the new Head Coach of their Senior men's squad on a 3 year contract." a club statement read. Spencer, an All-Black icon, will take charge of the team this Summer ahead of the 2025/26 season. In a statement he said 'Terenure a club with a proud history, passionate supporters and a strong sense of community. I feel very lucky and honoured to now be a part of that' TCRFC also announced that the vastly experienced Paul Barr will be taking on the role of the Club's Performance Director, working closely with the highly regarded and longstanding Director of Rugby Ian 'Moggy' Morgan. "Carlos was the outstanding candidate following our recruitment process. We believe this is an ambitious and exciting appointment for our Club, the All-Ireland League and Irish Rugby. Carlos will be welcomed warmly into the Terenure Community and everyone involved with our Club is extremely excited to begin working with him, especially the players. We are confident that Carlos will bring with him an incredible wealth of knowledge, experience and skill from his professional playing & coaching career and we are looking forward to the journey ahead.' Get the latest sports headlines straight to your inbox by signing up for free email.

Terenure College name former All Black Carlos Spencer as new head coach
Terenure College name former All Black Carlos Spencer as new head coach

Irish Times

time10-05-2025

  • Sport
  • Irish Times

Terenure College name former All Black Carlos Spencer as new head coach

In what is the most stunning, high profile coaching appointment in the history of the All-Ireland League , Carlos Spencer has agreed to become the next head coach of Terenure College . The Irish Times has learned that the legendary 49-year-old former All Blacks outhalf has signed a three-year deal with the 2023 champions and will move over to Dublin in August. A statement by the club has confirmed the appointment of Spencer, who commented: 'Terenure is a club with a proud history, passionate supporters and a strong sense of community. I feel very lucky and honoured to now be a part of that.' Terenure also announced that the vastly experienced Paul Barr will be taking on the role of the club's performance director, working closely with the highly regarded and long-standing director of rugby Ian 'Moggy' Morgan. READ MORE The statement added: 'Carlos was the outstanding candidate following our recruitment process. We believe this is an ambitious and exciting appointment for our Club, the All-Ireland League and Irish Rugby. 'Carlos will be welcomed warmly into the Terenure Community and everyone involved with our Club is extremely excited to begin working with him, especially the players. 'We are confident that Carlos will bring with him an incredible wealth of knowledge, experience and skill from his professional playing & coaching career and we are looking forward to the journey ahead' In a nomadic and maverick career as a gifted, creative and running outhalf, Spencer played 44 Tests for the All Blacks and remains in their list of top ten all-time points scorers with 383 points. He also played 10 matches for the New Zealand Maoris, and no team was closer to his heart, as well as 89 games for Auckland and 99 Super Rugby games for the Auckland Bus (620 points). He also spent four years with Northampton and one with Gloucester before finishing his playing career with the Lions in South Africa. Spencer has coached in South Africa, the US and the Hurricanes in Wellington, and most recently was an assistant/backs coach with the Auckland Blues women's side. Two years ago he said: 'When I was playing, I always liked to bring a bit of innovation and 'out-of-the-box' thinking to the table. Now, as a coach, I want to encourage and help grow those same traits in our Blues wahine.'

Terenure College RFC announce All Blacks legend Carlos Spencer as new coach
Terenure College RFC announce All Blacks legend Carlos Spencer as new coach

RTÉ News​

time10-05-2025

  • Sport
  • RTÉ News​

Terenure College RFC announce All Blacks legend Carlos Spencer as new coach

Terenure College RFC have announced legendary former New Zealand out-half Carlos Spencer as their new head coach. The Dublin club, who won the All-Ireland League in 2023, have appointed the 44-cap All Black on a three-year deal starting ahead of next season. "Carlos was the outstanding candidate following our recruitment process," said the club. "We believe this is an ambitious and exciting appointment for our club, the All-Ireland League and Irish rugby." Spencer (above) said: "Terenure [is] a club with a proud history, passionate supporters and a strong sense of community. "I feel very lucky and honored to now be a part of that". The 49-year-old played most of his career with the Blues, while he also had spells with Northampton and Gloucester in England. Spencer coached the Blues women's team to the 2025 Super Rugby Aupiki title last month.

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