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Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good
Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good

Yahoo

time7 days ago

  • Automotive
  • Yahoo

Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good

Earlier this year, Edmunds spent almost $86,000 to add an all-electric "Redeye" red Dodge Charger Daytona to its long-term test fleet. Just as a reminder, many consumer evaluation sites like Edmunds maintain long-term fleets. The idea is to understand the actual ownership experience, rather than simply driving the vehicle around for a week and creating a review. The Charger Daytona is a big deal for Dodge, as it proposes to translate the uniquely internal-combustion legacy of this storied muscle car to the new age of electrification. Unfortunately, Edmunds' testers have reported a major issue: their car accelerated when it wasn't supposed to. They don't know why, and this isn't good. Evidently, the Charger started to throw some warning lights, lost regenerative braking, and then began to increase speed while the driver wasn't stomping on the accelerator. Luckily, the Charger didn't tap into its full 670 horsepower (Edmunds went for the Scat Pack performance package), sending the driver and his son in the passenger seat back to the future. Read more: The 2025 Land District Might Kick Off A New-Era Of American Moto I emailed Dodge for comment and will update when I hear back, but I have a pretty good idea of what's going on here. For the record – and Edmunds also noted this – owners in Dodge forums have claimed to experience this glitch, so Dodge knows about it. My following analysis is speculative, but based on my time at an electric vehicle startup. Cars have been heavily computerized for decades, but EVs are a completely different ball game. The key distinction is that internal-combustion technologies were developed and largely perfected during the analog era, with various computer systems bolted on later, as the electronic architecture of vehicles evolved. Modern EVs, by contrast, have always been digital, with computer modules controlling just about everything. It's probably a software issue, because the whole thing is run by software. As our president so eloquently put it while checking out a Tesla Model S back in March, "everything's computer." Back in the day, if something glitched on your old gas-burning car, you went to the dealership and they plugged in some proprietary diagnostics to fix it. But in 2025, EVs are connected 24/7, so chances are pretty good that Dodge has accessed the vehicle logs for Edmunds' Charger and is remotely evaluating what went wrong. Edmunds performed a basic reset to regain full control of their Charger (not a full reboot, however). The problem hasn't recurred. But if you visit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's site and review the page on the Dodge Charger EV, you'll find that although there have been no complaints, nor any investigations or recalls announced, there have been 25 manufacturer communications, mainly regarding the electrical system. The root cause here is likely some sort of software conflict, or an electrical system miscommunication with a critical drivetrain component and triggering an error or series of errors. The startup I worked for wrestled with these problems, and we were hardly alone: despite copious presale testing, required by regulators for certification, it seems that almost every EV endures software bugs. Even Tesla, pioneers of over-the-air updates to solve problems, had a gaggle of glitches and recalls with the Cybertruck. The good news is that the fix is often quite straightforward, a matter of reprogramming one supplier's software to get along better with another's. If the fix isn't at the level of a simple software update, then the automaker will typically advise NHTSA and initiate a recall. Not that I'm making excuses for Dodge; unintended acceleration is scary! But we are only just entering the era of the "software defined vehicle" and are at the early stages of learning what goes wrong with EVs. And because they are so mechanically simple, it's often the digital code that is causing trouble. Want more like this? Join the Jalopnik newsletter to get the latest auto news sent straight to your inbox... Read the original article on Jalopnik.

Dodge Charger EV Owners Are Reporting Unintended Acceleration
Dodge Charger EV Owners Are Reporting Unintended Acceleration

Motor 1

time03-06-2025

  • Automotive
  • Motor 1

Dodge Charger EV Owners Are Reporting Unintended Acceleration

Two words an automaker never wants to hear: Unintended acceleration. It nearly sunk Audi in America in the 1980s, and was a huge scandal for Toyota in the in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Both cases were totally unfounded, caused by user error, damaged both brands' reputation regardless. Now, a handful of Charger Daytona EV owners, including have reported unintended acceleration in their cars. Edmunds's 2024 Charger Daytona Scat Pack, which it owns and reports on as part of its long-term test fleet, had a case of totally unexplained unintentional acceleration in the hands of one of its writers . The writer reported seeing a number of warning lights, and an indication that the car was going into a "low-power" mode, what seems to be a limp mode that allows you to drive the car slowly in case of a major fault. When depressing the accelerator pedal, the car accelerated "very sluggishly" according to Edmunds, but when lifting off the pedal, instead of slowing down with regenerative braking, the car continued to accelerate. The writer estimates at a rate of about 1 mph per second. The writer's son captured a video of the incident, and you can see the driver's foot away from the pedals, yet the car still accelerating. To slow for a stop, the driver reported having to press down on the brake pedal harder than normal, but the car did come to a stop. But when he lifted back off the brake pedal, the car crept forward as normal, than continued accelerating up to 45 mph without any accelerator pedal input. After parking and power cycling the car—shutting it off, locking the doors, waiting 10 seconds, then getting back in—the problem went away. We asked Dodge if this is a problem it knows about, and if it is a problem, if there is a fix on its way. Instead of answering either question directly, a Stellantis person sent over the following statement: "In the rare event of an accelerator-pedal fault, Stellantis has implemented a 'drive-by-brake' safety feature, which allows the driver to control speed through the brake pedal. In this instance, the feature worked as intended, and the driver was able to safely maneuver the vehicle off the road. This feature has been in Stellantis internal-combustion-engine vehicles for many years and has been carried over to battery-electric vehicles." Does this statement acknowledge this incident was a fault on the car's end, and not simple driver error? We reached out asking for clarification and will update this piece when necessary. As Edmunds points out, supposed Charger Daytona owners report on a forum of similar issues , including one where the poster says the unintended acceleration led to an accident. Obviously, this is all anecdotal, and without looking at data from the car, it's impossible to say definitively whether the Charger Daytona has a genuine issue. But, Edmunds is a reputable outlet, and its video and reportage is a strong indication that the car may actually have a problem. The publication, for its part, says the Charger Daytona is going back to the dealer "posthaste." So far, the Charger Daytona has been a disaster for an ailing Stellantis . Muscle-car fans have by and large made it clear that they want Hemi V-8s, not EVs, and there are already huge discounts on the Charger Daytona —never a good sign for a new model. Plus, the Charger Daytona rides on the STLA Large platform that already underpins the Jeep Wagoneer S, and a ton of future vehicles, including the Jeep Recon, and next-gen Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio. If this unintended acceleration is indeed a vehicle fault, it casts doubts on Stellantis' ability to deliver quality EVs. More on the Charger You'll Have To Wait Longer for the Dodge Charger Sixpack The Dodge Charger Daytona R/T EV Is 'Postponed' for 2026 Get the best news, reviews, columns, and more delivered straight to your inbox, daily. back Sign up For more information, read our Privacy Policy and Terms of Use . Share this Story Facebook X LinkedIn Flipboard Reddit WhatsApp E-Mail Got a tip for us? Email: tips@ Join the conversation ( )

Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good
Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good

Yahoo

time03-06-2025

  • Automotive
  • Yahoo

Edmunds' Long-Term Dodge Charger EV Accelerated By Itself, Which Isn't Good

Earlier this year, Edmunds spent almost $86,000 to add an all-electric "Redeye" red Dodge Charger Daytona to its long-term test fleet. Just as a reminder, many consumer evaluation sites like Edmunds maintain long-term fleets. The idea is to understand the actual ownership experience, rather than simply driving the vehicle around for a week and creating a review. The Charger Daytona is a big deal for Dodge, as it proposes to translate the uniquely internal-combustion legacy of this storied muscle car to the new age of electrification. Unfortunately, Edmunds' testers have reported a major issue: their car accelerated when it wasn't supposed to. They don't know why, and this isn't good. Evidently, the Charger started to throw some warning lights, lost regenerative braking, and then began to increase speed while the driver wasn't stomping on the accelerator. Luckily, the Charger didn't tap into its full 670 horsepower (Edmunds went for the Scat Pack performance package), sending the driver and his son in the passenger seat back to the future. Read more: The 2025 Land District Might Kick Off A New-Era Of American Moto I emailed Dodge for comment and will update when I hear back, but I have a pretty good idea of what's going on here. For the record – and Edmunds also noted this – owners in Dodge forums have claimed to experience this glitch, so Dodge knows about it. My following analysis is speculative, but based on my time at an electric vehicle startup. Cars have been heavily computerized for decades, but EVs are a completely different ball game. The key distinction is that internal-combustion technologies were developed and largely perfected during the analog era, with various computer systems bolted on later, as the electronic architecture of vehicles evolved. Modern EVs, by contrast, have always been digital, with computer modules controlling just about everything. It's probably a software issue, because the whole thing is run by software. As our president so eloquently put it while checking out a Tesla Model S back in March, "everything's computer." Back in the day, if something glitched on your old gas-burning car, you went to the dealership and they plugged in some proprietary diagnostics to fix it. But in 2025, EVs are connected 24/7, so chances are pretty good that Dodge has accessed the vehicle logs for Edmunds' Charger and is remotely evaluating what went wrong. Edmunds performed a basic reset to regain full control of their Charger (not a full reboot, however). The problem hasn't recurred. But if you visit the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's site and review the page on the Dodge Charger EV, you'll find that although there have been no complaints, nor any investigations or recalls announced, there have been 25 manufacturer communications, mainly regarding the electrical system. The root cause here is likely some sort of software conflict, or an electrical system miscommunication with a critical drivetrain component and triggering an error or series of errors. The startup I worked for wrestled with these problems, and we were hardly alone: despite copious presale testing, required by regulators for certification, it seems that almost every EV endures software bugs. Even Tesla, pioneers of over-the-air updates to solve problems, had a gaggle of glitches and recalls with the Cybertruck. The good news is that the fix is often quite straightforward, a matter of reprogramming one supplier's software to get along better with another's. If the fix isn't at the level of a simple software update, then the automaker will typically advise NHTSA and initiate a recall. Not that I'm making excuses for Dodge; unintended acceleration is scary! But we are only just entering the era of the "software defined vehicle" and are at the early stages of learning what goes wrong with EVs. And because they are so mechanically simple, it's often the digital code that is causing trouble. Want more like this? Join the Jalopnik newsletter to get the latest auto news sent straight to your inbox... Read the original article on Jalopnik.

Dodge debuts all-new 2026 Dodge Charger Daytona Sedan
Dodge debuts all-new 2026 Dodge Charger Daytona Sedan

Time of India

time22-05-2025

  • Automotive
  • Time of India

Dodge debuts all-new 2026 Dodge Charger Daytona Sedan

Dodge has added a new body style to its electric muscle car family with the debut of the 2026 Charger Daytona sedan, positioned as the world's only four-door muscle car. The announcement came during the MAMA Spring Rally on May 21 at Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin, where the brand also showcased the two-door version. Shared platform Built on Stellantis' STLA Large platform, both the two- and four-door Chargers feature a liftback design, similar front and rear fascias, and a shared interior layout. The four-door model is set to launch in performance-focused trims, including the Scat Pack with up to 670 hp from a dual-motor all-wheel-drive setup. Performance The Charger Daytona Scat Pack claims a 0–60 mph time of 3.3 seconds and includes performance features like Launch Control, Donut and Drift modes, and Dodge's Fratzonic Chambered Exhaust system. The new model aims to retain the spirit of traditional muscle cars while shifting to electric powertrains. Inside, the Charger Daytona includes a 16-inch digital instrument cluster, a 12.3-inch infotainment screen powered by Uconnect 5, and performance-oriented displays and controls. Dodge has focused on blending modern tech with muscle car DNA. Range and charging The standard variant offers an estimated range of up to 317 miles, while higher-performance trims range between 260–280 miles. Dodge claims a 20–80 per cent recharge takes approximately 24 minutes using DC fast charging. ICE variant to follow In 2025, Dodge plans to introduce gasoline-powered SIXPACK variants based on the same platform, offering buyers internal combustion options alongside the all-electric lineup. Deliveries of both the 2026 Charger Daytona coupe and sedan are expected to begin in the second half of 2025.>

Dodge plans gas-powered Charger but will cut cheaper electric variant
Dodge plans gas-powered Charger but will cut cheaper electric variant

Yahoo

time19-05-2025

  • Automotive
  • Yahoo

Dodge plans gas-powered Charger but will cut cheaper electric variant

Dodge is pulling the plug, so to speak, on its base model electric Charger Daytona, the R/T, as it deals with slow sales, but don't expect what appears to be a limited-edition run of vehicles to turn into collector's items, according to a key industry watcher. 'Rarity does not make a collectible. You need to have demand for it,' said Sam Fiorani, vice president of global vehicle forecasting for AutoForecast Solutions. 'You can't presume that this will be a Charger Daytona of 1970. They couldn't sell those originally and years later they were collectible.' Fiorani said it's risky to bet on a car of today becoming something that brings big dollars in the years to come, even when the numbers of those made and sold are relatively small. Still, Dodge will continue to offer the more powerful and expensive electric Charger Daytona Scat Pack for the upcoming model year, even as it prepares to launch several gas-powered versions. While it's not clear how many Dodge Charger Daytonas will be produced this year, so far the sales picture is showing a fairly light impact. Electric Charger sales — the company did not distinguish between versions — for the first three months of this year were at 1,947. Granted, they were just beginning to arrive in showrooms in January after months of delays. However, the automaker likely had higher hopes. Fiorani noted that he'd recently driven by a Dodge dealership and saw a row of Chargers waiting to be sold. In a statement, Dodge CEO Matt McAlear said 'production of the Dodge Charger Daytona R/T is postponed for the 2026 model year as we continue to assess the effects of U.S. tariff policies. The Charger's flexible, multi-energy STLA Large platform allows us to focus on the Charger Daytona Scat Pack's performance as the world's quickest and most powerful muscle car, add the new four-door model to the Charger mix for the 2026 model year and lean into the new Charger SIXPACK models that will launch in the second half of the year.' Sixpack refers to the engine, the inline-six Hurricane, which will come in 550-horsepower or 420-horsepower variants. The current electric Scat Pack promises a peak power base of 630 horsepower with a limited push-button burst to 670 horsepower called the Power Shot. The Dodge website lists the Scat Pack all-wheel drive with a starting price of $73,985, excluding destination charge. Adding gas-powered versions to the lineup is not a surprise, as Dodge had previously said that was the plan. However, the decision, reported earlier by to end the electric R/T's run so soon does highlight how the market has changed, both in terms of the slower adoption of electric vehicles and President Donald Trump's embrace of tariffs. The Charger Daytona is assembled at the Windsor Assembly Plant in Ontario, but the batteries initially were to come from South Korea. Fiorani offered some perspective on the potential tariff impact, however. 'Everybody is leaning on tariffs for every change in production or sales, whether real or not,' he said. Market realities are, however, what they are. More: Detroit automakers want Silicon Valley talent, but need Michigan engineering knowledge 'The idea that an internal combustion engine version would hit the market better at the moment is a strong one,' according to Fiorani. 'Buyers haven't warmed up to EVs as a performance vehicle yet, especially since every EV is a performance model now.' Fiorani noted also that the company's planned shift in production volume toward the gas-powered Charger would also take the focus off the less expensive EV version — the R/T was listed with a starting price of $59,595, not counting destination. '(They) kind of want to focus on the vehicle that will make money versus the entry-level models that will sell on price,' Fiorani said. The moves for Dodge follow news that Ram is also adjusting its electric plans. Crain's Detroit Business, citing a memo to suppliers, reported this week that the electric Ram 1500 REV would be delayed until summer 2027, a year later than what the automaker told the Free Press in January, and the extended range Ramcharger is being pushed from later this year to early next year. More: U.S. auto industry wants trade deal with Canada and Mexico to be Trump's priority The company, in a statement provided by spokesman Nick Cappa, cited "slowing consumer demand for half-ton" battery electric pickups and noted that "we also are extending the quality validation period for the Range Extended Ram to support a successful launch and the highest build quality." Contact Eric D. Lawrence: elawrence@ Become a subscriber. Submit a letter to the editor at This article originally appeared on Detroit Free Press: Dodge pivots on future EV offerings after lackluster sales Sign in to access your portfolio

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