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20 hours ago
- Business
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Can Pakistan afford China's J-35 fighter jets even at discounted rates, ask netizens
Chinese social media users have slammed their government's move to fast track delivery of 30 J-35A stealth fighter jets to Pakistan at half the price, labelling it as 'financially and strategically reckless' read more Pakistan Air Force J-10C fighter jets perform at a rehearsal ahead of Pakistan's national day parade in Islamabad. Used for representational purposes | File image/AFP Chinese social media users have slammed their government's move to fast track delivery of 30 J-35A stealth fighter jets to Pakistan at half the price, labelling it as 'financially and strategically reckless' According to a Times of India report, as per the deal, which marks China's first export of a fifth-generation combat aircraft, the deliveries will begin as early as August 2025. The decision, however, has left many Chinese citizens baffled and angry, especially as the J-35A, also known as the FC-31, is still undergoing testing and has not even yet been inducted into China's own air force, added the report. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD 'Pakistan has also made a lot of fake news. How can it afford to buy it? It hasn't even paid for the J-10,' ToI quoted a user, posting under the handle @Zhejiang from the Yingyang Medical School, as saying. The comment refers to Pakistan's pending payments for earlier J-10C fighter jets purchased from China. Another user under the name @CQL0530 criticised Beijing's production priorities, asked 'China's own production of the J-35 has not yet been built up. How can it be given to them?' Some users showed no restraint. 'Bullshit!' wrote one, as quoted by ET. The phrase '2 more powerful printers are coming,' shared by user Cracked Rose, was interpreted by some as a reference to the government printing more money, or jets, to fund the project. Timing of China-Pak deal draws criticism The announcement of China's deal to supply 30 J-35A stealth fighter jets to Pakistan has faced scrutiny not only over the jet's readiness but also its timing. Coming just days after a terror attack in Jammu & Kashmir's Pahalgam, Indian analysts interpret the deal as China arming Pakistan amid escalating cross-border tensions. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD Within China, social media users are questioning whether the government is effectively subsidising a military client with limited financial capacity. 'It is more in your interest to spend money on building and purchasing industrial equipment and infra,' ToI quoted one commenter as writing. Concerns also focus on whether China is selling a 'concept jet'— a fighter still in development — presented as a finished product. Although the J-35 is designed to compete with US-made fighters like the F-35, it lacks combat experience or proven operational capabilities. High-risk gamble China previously promoted the J-10CE fighter jet, also supplied to Pakistan, as 'combat-tested,' citing Islamabad's claims that it shot down Indian Rafales during 'Operation Sindoor'. However, these claims remain unverified outside Pakistani media and have been met with skepticism. Attempts to export the J-10CE to countries like Egypt, Brazil, and Uzbekistan have so far been unsuccessful, reported Times of India. Experts attribute this to the jet's reliance on Russian engines — such as the RD-93 and AL-31— which are considered outdated and pose increasing risks amid geopolitical tensions and supply chain uncertainties. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THIS AD According to Times of India, citing reports, Pakistani pilots are already training in China to operate the J-35. However, the Chinese government has yet to release an official statement addressing the backlash or confirming details of the sale, added the report. While India is expected to closely monitor the situation, many in China are questioning who truly benefits from the deal. If finalised, Beijing may present it as a strategic effort to strengthen regional influence. Yet for many ordinary citizens, it increasingly appears to be a high-risk gamble — funded by Chinese taxpayers — on an unfinished aircraft sold to a buyer with a questionable credit history. With inputs from agencies
Time of India
2 days ago
- Business
- Time of India
Unpaid jets, unfinished planes: China's 50% discounted fighter plane sale to Pakistan; citizens ask who is benefiting?
Beijing's fast track delivery plan of 30 J-35A stealth fighter jets to Pakistan at half the price triggered a storm of backlash across Chinese social media platforms. The move, which would mark China's first export of a fifth-generation combat aircraft, is being widely criticised as financially and strategically reckless. The deal is expected to begin deliveries in August 2025. However, the decision has left many Chinese citizens baffled and angry, especially as the J-35A, also known as the FC-31, is still undergoing testing and has not even yet been inducted into China's own air force. One user, posting under the handle @Zhejiang from the Yingyang Medical School, asked, 'Pakistan has also made a lot of fake news. How can it afford to buy it? It hasn't even paid for the J-10.' The comment refers to Pakistan's pending payments for earlier J-10C fighter jets purchased from China. Another user, @CQL0530, criticised Beijing's production priorities, 'China's own production of the J-35 has not yet been built up. How can it be given to them?' Some users dispensed with any diplomacy. 'Bullshit!' wrote another user, quoted by ET. The phrase '2 more powerful printers are coming,' shared by user Cracked Rose, was interpreted by some as a reference to the government printing more money, or jets, to fund the project. by Taboola by Taboola Sponsored Links Sponsored Links Promoted Links Promoted Links You May Like 오스템 임플란트 받아가세요 임플란터 더 알아보기 Undo 'A charity sale', or 'strategic leverage' Beyond the jet's readiness, the announcement's timing has also drawn scrutiny. It comes just days after a terror attack in Pahalgam, Jammu & Kashmir, prompting Indian analysts to see the deal as China arming Pakistan amid renewed cross-border tensions. Back home, users are questioning whether the government is, in effect, subsidising a military client state with limited ability to pay. 'It is more in your interest to spend money on building and purchasing industrial equipment and infra,' one commenter wrote. The root of concern is whether China is selling a 'concept jet,' a fighter still in development, as a finished product. While the J-35 is designed to rival platforms like the US-made F-35, it lacks any combat history or proven capabilities. A shaky pitch China previously tried to market the J-10CE, another fighter jet supplied to Pakistan, as 'combat-tested', citing claims from Islamabad that it shot down Indian Rafales during Operation Sindoor. But these claims remained unverified outside Pakistani media and have been met with scepticism. Efforts to sell the J-10CE to countries like Egypt, Brazil, and Uzbekistan have so far failed. Experts point to its reliance on Russian engines, such as the RD-93 and AL-31, which are seen as outdated and increasingly risky given geopolitical tensions and supply chain concerns. Reports suggest that Pakistani pilots are already undergoing training in China to fly the J-35. However, the Chinese government has not issued any official statement on the backlash or confirmed the details of the sale. While India is expected to keep a close eye on how this unfolds, many in China are simply asking, who benefits? If the deal goes ahead, Beijing might frame it as a strategic move to cement influence in the region. But for many ordinary citizens, it's beginning to look like a high-risk bet, funded by the Chinese taxpayer, on an unfinished aircraft sold to a customer with an unreliable credit record.
Economic Times
2 days ago
- Business
- Economic Times
50% off J-35A fighter jets! China's half-price stealth deal to Pakistan ignites online backlash, user says 'we pay the price'
Social media lights up: 'It hasn't even paid for the J-10' Live Events A charity sale or strategic move? The bigger gamble: Selling unfinished products Trying to sell the J-10CE and the story that didn't fly India watches, Pakistan trains, China stays quiet (You can now subscribe to our (You can now subscribe to our Economic Times WhatsApp channel Beijing's decision to fast-track the delivery of 30 J-35A stealth fighters to Pakistan has ignited a wave of backlash among Chinese citizens. The deal, reportedly offered at a 50% discount, is scheduled to begin in August 2025. If it proceeds, it would mark China's first-ever export of a fifth-generation jet , as reported by Business online, disbelief is running are asking why China would send an unproven, in-testing aircraft — one not even inducted into its own air force — to a foreign buyer that still depends on IMF funding for economic Chinese platforms, the tone has been blunt and biting. One X user, Yingyang Medical School (@Zhejiang), wrote, 'Pakistan has also made a lot of fake news. How can it afford to buy it? It hasn't even paid for the J-10.' That refers to Islamabad's overdue payments for earlier Chinese J-10C fighter jets Another user, CQL0530, expressed disbelief over Beijing's manufacturing priorities: 'China's own production of the J-35 has not yet been built up. How can it be given to them?'And some didn't bother with nuance. Angry Man 1957 (@Guangdong) wrote, simply, 'Bullshit!' while another, posting as Clouds rise and fall from Sichuan province, said 'I can't afford it all,' seemingly lamenting the financial burden on Chinese phrase '2 more powerful printers are coming', shared by user Cracked Rose (@Guangdong), sparked speculation about whether the government plans to ramp up jet production or metaphorically 'print money' to cover the timing of the announcement is what has drawn particular ire. It comes just days after the deadly terror attack in Pahalgam, Jammu & Kashmir. The optics are not lost on either side: India views the move as Beijing arming its ally against Indian forces, while Chinese users question if their government is effectively subsidising weapons for a client state with poor credit user summed up the sentiment: 'It is more in your interest to spend money on building and purchasing industrial equipment and infra.'To them, this isn't about strategy — it's about misplaced J-35A — also known as the FC-31 — is still undergoing testing and has yet to be formally inducted into the People's Liberation Army Air Force. Unlike America's F-35, which has seen over 900 units delivered globally, the Chinese stealth fighter is still China appears eager to use the Pakistani order to market the aircraft internationally. The J-35 is designed to rival Western platforms, but without combat experience or confirmed specs, it remains a say the stealth jet may one day feature advanced sensors and integrated battlefield communication systems. For now, however, it's a concept being sold as a finished product — and critics aren't has also claimed that during Operation Sindoor, its Chinese-supplied J-10CE jets — armed with long-range PL-15 missiles — downed multiple Indian Rafale fighters. Beijing has reportedly leaned on these claims to pitch the J-10CE as 'combat-tested' in marketing outside Pakistan, no one's attempts to sell the J-10CE to Egypt, Brazil, and Uzbekistan have all fallen through. One reason is technical: the jet still depends on Russian engines like the Klimov RD-93 and Saturn AL-31, which many countries consider outdated or risky due to supply chain pilots are already being trained in China to fly the J-35s, according to sources. Meanwhile, the Chinese government and state media have remained silent on the growing online criticism. There's been no confirmation, no denial — just quiet momentum behind the on the other hand, is likely to view the sale as part of a broader strategy to shift the regional power balance. A 50% discount on next-gen jets, timed after a cross-border terror attack, adds fuel to long-standing concerns about China using Pakistan as a military now, the deal is neither confirmed by China nor fully detailed. But the backlash has been clear. Citizens are asking tough questions. Why sell an untested weapon to a financially unstable country? Why offer it at a discount? And who, ultimately, is footing the bill?Beijing may see the move as a long-term strategic investment. But at home, many are calling it what they believe it is — a heavily subsidised, risky gamble, paid for by the Chinese taxpayer.
Time of India
2 days ago
- Business
- Time of India
50% off J-35A fighter jets! China's half-price stealth deal to Pakistan ignites online backlash, user says 'we pay the price'
Beijing's decision to fast-track the delivery of 30 J-35A stealth fighters to Pakistan has ignited a wave of backlash among Chinese citizens. The deal, reportedly offered at a 50% discount, is scheduled to begin in August 2025. If it proceeds, it would mark China's first-ever export of a fifth-generation jet , as reported by Business Today. But online, disbelief is running high. Many are asking why China would send an unproven, in-testing aircraft — one not even inducted into its own air force — to a foreign buyer that still depends on IMF funding for economic survival. — War_Doctrine (@War_Doctrine) Social media lights up: 'It hasn't even paid for the J-10' On Chinese platforms, the tone has been blunt and biting. One X user, Yingyang Medical School (@Zhejiang), wrote, 'Pakistan has also made a lot of fake news. How can it afford to buy it? It hasn't even paid for the J-10.' That refers to Islamabad's overdue payments for earlier Chinese J-10C fighter jets . Live Events Another user, CQL0530, expressed disbelief over Beijing's manufacturing priorities: 'China's own production of the J-35 has not yet been built up. How can it be given to them?' And some didn't bother with nuance. Angry Man 1957 (@Guangdong) wrote, simply, 'Bullshit!' while another, posting as Clouds rise and fall from Sichuan province, said 'I can't afford it all,' seemingly lamenting the financial burden on Chinese taxpayers. The phrase '2 more powerful printers are coming', shared by user Cracked Rose (@Guangdong), sparked speculation about whether the government plans to ramp up jet production or metaphorically 'print money' to cover the cost. A charity sale or strategic move? The timing of the announcement is what has drawn particular ire. It comes just days after the deadly terror attack in Pahalgam, Jammu & Kashmir. The optics are not lost on either side: India views the move as Beijing arming its ally against Indian forces, while Chinese users question if their government is effectively subsidising weapons for a client state with poor credit history. One user summed up the sentiment: 'It is more in your interest to spend money on building and purchasing industrial equipment and infra.' To them, this isn't about strategy — it's about misplaced priorities. The bigger gamble: Selling unfinished products The J-35A — also known as the FC-31 — is still undergoing testing and has yet to be formally inducted into the People's Liberation Army Air Force. Unlike America's F-35, which has seen over 900 units delivered globally, the Chinese stealth fighter is still pre-operational. Yet China appears eager to use the Pakistani order to market the aircraft internationally. The J-35 is designed to rival Western platforms, but without combat experience or confirmed specs, it remains a gamble. Experts say the stealth jet may one day feature advanced sensors and integrated battlefield communication systems. For now, however, it's a concept being sold as a finished product — and critics aren't convinced. Trying to sell the J-10CE and the story that didn't fly Pakistan has also claimed that during Operation Sindoor, its Chinese-supplied J-10CE jets — armed with long-range PL-15 missiles — downed multiple Indian Rafale fighters. Beijing has reportedly leaned on these claims to pitch the J-10CE as 'combat-tested' in marketing materials. But outside Pakistan, no one's buying. China's attempts to sell the J-10CE to Egypt, Brazil, and Uzbekistan have all fallen through. One reason is technical: the jet still depends on Russian engines like the Klimov RD-93 and Saturn AL-31, which many countries consider outdated or risky due to supply chain uncertainties. India watches, Pakistan trains, China stays quiet Pakistani pilots are already being trained in China to fly the J-35s, according to sources. Meanwhile, the Chinese government and state media have remained silent on the growing online criticism. There's been no confirmation, no denial — just quiet momentum behind the scenes. India, on the other hand, is likely to view the sale as part of a broader strategy to shift the regional power balance. A 50% discount on next-gen jets, timed after a cross-border terror attack, adds fuel to long-standing concerns about China using Pakistan as a military proxy. For now, the deal is neither confirmed by China nor fully detailed. But the backlash has been clear. Citizens are asking tough questions. Why sell an untested weapon to a financially unstable country? Why offer it at a discount? And who, ultimately, is footing the bill? Beijing may see the move as a long-term strategic investment. But at home, many are calling it what they believe it is — a heavily subsidised, risky gamble, paid for by the Chinese taxpayer.
